Current Events > Male birth control set for 400 Couple International Test Trial in 2018

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UnfairRepresent 12/28/17 5:15:50 PM #1:	A contraceptive gel for men is set to undergo an international test run in 2018. Scientists have been aiming to develop male birth control that can go into market within the next decade. During sometime in the first half of 2018, a clinical trial sponsored by the National Institutes of Health and the Population Council will go into trial. The test will involve 400 couples from the U.S., Chile, Italy, Kenya, Sweden and the United Kingdom, Time reports. Female partners will be asked to take birth control during the first four months of the trial. Beyond that timeframe, the couples will be required to only use the male contraceptive for an additional year. The male contraceptive consists of a gel men can rub into their arms and shoulders on a daily basis. The gel is designed to lower the male's sperm count for up to 72 hours by suppressing the testosterone in their testes with the chemical nestorone. Resulting hormonal imbalances would be offset by a synthetic testosterone that does not spur sperm production. Dr. Min Lee of the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, who is spearheading the trial, said that a key goal of the test is to determine the best combination of nestorone and synthetic testosterone. "If we stop the production of testosterone, men are obviously going to experience side effects beyond just their sperm count," Lee explained. In 2016, a clinical trial that utilized nestorone and synthetic testosterone showed a 96 percent success rate at suppressing sperm but included unpleasant side effects for test subjects. Patients reported that they experienced mood swings and muscle pain. Lee said that the latest study would lower the dose of synthetic testosterone. "We're only adding back just enough so they have normal physiological responses, not the huge amount that's been used in other formulations," Lee said. Lee added that if the trial was successful, it would still take at least five years before the contraceptive received government approval and was allowed into the market. Female contraceptives are a $10 billion industry while condoms sales worldwide total $3.2 billion each year. Birth control experts say that major pharmaceutical companies are not interested in exploring male birth control. "The fact that the big companies are run by white, middle-aged males who have the same feeling -- that they would never do it -- plays a major role," gynecology professor Herjan Coelingh Bennink told Bloomberg. "If those companies were run by women, it would be totally different." For instance, Indian professor Sujoy Guha has developed an injection that reversibly makes men sterile. While Guha's contraceptive is said to be medically viable, he has not found any traction among pharmaceutical companies. "In doing anything abroad, quite substantial money is required, and that can only come from the pharmaceutical industry," Guha said. Male Contraception Initiative executive director Aaron Hamlin predicted that the likeliest scenario for male birth control becoming prevalent was if a viable product was developed by a non-profit or smaller company and then licensed by a large distributor. "Pharmaceutical companies are looking to minimize risk while opening themselves up to large profits. ... pharmaceutical companies may look more seriously [into licensing the technology or acquiring the company]," Hamlin told CNBC. Full Article: https://www.opposingviews.com/i/health/male-birth-control-trials-begin If this worked, would you try them out in 2023? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:893024423] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>A contraceptive gel for men is set to undergo an international test run in 2018. Scientists have been aiming to develop male birth control that can go into market within the next decade. During sometime in the first half of 2018, a clinical trial sponsored by the National Institutes of Health and the Population Council will go into trial. The test will involve 400 couples from the U.S., Chile, Italy, Kenya, Sweden and the United Kingdom, Time reports. Female partners will be asked to take birth control during the first four months of the trial. Beyond that timeframe, the couples will be required to only use the male contraceptive for an additional year. The male contraceptive consists of a gel men can rub into their arms and shoulders on a daily basis. The gel is designed to lower the male's sperm count for up to 72 hours by suppressing the testosterone in their testes with the chemical nestorone. Resulting hormonal imbalances would be offset by a synthetic testosterone that does not spur sperm production. Dr. Min Lee of the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, who is spearheading the trial, said that a key goal of the test is to determine the best combination of nestorone and synthetic testosterone. "If we stop the production of testosterone, men are obviously going to experience side effects beyond just their sperm count," Lee explained. In 2016, a clinical trial that utilized nestorone and synthetic testosterone showed a 96 percent success rate at suppressing sperm but included unpleasant side effects for test subjects. Patients reported that they experienced mood swings and muscle pain. Lee said that the latest study would lower the dose of synthetic testosterone. "We're only adding back just enough so they have normal physiological responses, not the huge amount that's been used in other formulations," Lee said. Lee added that if the trial was successful, it would still take at least five years before the contraceptive received government approval and was allowed into the market. Female contraceptives are a $10 billion industry while condoms sales worldwide total $3.2 billion each year. Birth control experts say that major pharmaceutical companies are not interested in exploring male birth control. "The fact that the big companies are run by white, middle-aged males who have the same feeling -- that they would never do it -- plays a major role," gynecology professor Herjan Coelingh Bennink told Bloomberg. "If those companies were run by women, it would be totally different." For instance, Indian professor Sujoy Guha has developed an injection that reversibly makes men sterile. While Guha's contraceptive is said to be medically viable, he has not found any traction among pharmaceutical companies. "In doing anything abroad, quite substantial money is required, and that can only come from the pharmaceutical industry," Guha said. Male Contraception Initiative executive director Aaron Hamlin predicted that the likeliest scenario for male birth control becoming prevalent was if a viable product was developed by a non-profit or smaller company and then licensed by a large distributor. "Pharmaceutical companies are looking to minimize risk while opening themselves up to large profits. ... pharmaceutical companies may look more seriously [into licensing the technology or acquiring the company]," Hamlin told CNBC. Full Article: https://www.opposingviews.com/i/health/male-birth-control-trials-begin If this worked, would you try them out in 2023?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MhkaCHemistry 12/28/17 5:20:10 PM #2:	Maybe a strange question but why do they specify rubbing it into the arms? And why can't it just be a pill, is the dose needed really big? Hopefully they figured out how to avoid the side effects from the last big trial. --- http://i.imgur.com/iB1sU.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/juliaxx/Picture56.jpg Free stuff! <cite>MhkaCHemistry posted [p:893024652] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>Maybe a strange question but why do they specify rubbing it into the arms? And why can't it just be a pill, is the dose needed really big? Hopefully they figured out how to avoid the side effects from the last big trial.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 12/28/17 5:24:35 PM #3:	"The fact that the big companies are run by white, middle-aged males who have the same feeling -- that they would never do it -- plays a major role," gynecology professor Herjan Coelingh Bennink told Bloomberg. "If those companies were run by women, it would be totally different." The fuck does being white have to do with any of this crap? --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:893024884] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>"The fact that the big companies are run by white, middle-aged males who have the same feeling -- that they would never do it -- plays a major role," gynecology professor Herjan Coelingh Bennink told Bloomberg. "If those companies were run by women, it would be totally different." The fuck does being white have to do with any of this crap?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 12/28/17 5:27:09 PM #6:	NINExATExSEVEN posted... "The fact that the big companies are run by white, middle-aged males who have the same feeling -- that they would never do it -- plays a major role," gynecology professor Herjan Coelingh Bennink told Bloomberg. "If those companies were run by women, it would be totally different." The fuck does being white have to do with any of this crap? Most likely to have unplanned pregnancies --- https://i.imgur.com/lwkIVOb.png <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:893025024] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>"The fact that the big companies are run by white, middle-aged males who have the same feeling -- that they would never do it -- plays a major role," gynecology professor Herjan Coelingh Bennink told Bloomberg. "If those companies were run by women, it would be totally different." The fuck does being white have to do with any of this crap?</quote> Most likely to have unplanned pregnancies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/28/17 5:27:21 PM #7:	NINExATExSEVEN posted... "The fact that the big companies are run by white, middle-aged males who have the same feeling -- that they would never do it -- plays a major role," gynecology professor Herjan Coelingh Bennink told Bloomberg. "If those companies were run by women, it would be totally different." The fuck does being white have to do with any of this crap? The relevance is the lack of interest in male birth control. Everyone in relevant positions of power to research or mass produce male birth control has no interest in doing so because like most industry it's male dominated. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:893025033] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>"The fact that the big companies are run by white, middle-aged males who have the same feeling -- that they would never do it -- plays a major role," gynecology professor Herjan Coelingh Bennink told Bloomberg. "If those companies were run by women, it would be totally different." The fuck does being white have to do with any of this crap?</quote> The relevance is the lack of interest in male birth control. Everyone in relevant positions of power to research or mass produce male birth control has no interest in doing so because like most industry it's male dominated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 12/28/17 5:27:25 PM #8:	This sounds like interesting research. That being said, I can't WAIT to hear Alex "turning the frogs gay" Jones lose his goddamn mind over a gel that suppresses Testosterone. It'll be glorious. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:893025036] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>This sounds like interesting research. That being said, I can't WAIT to hear Alex "turning the frogs gay" Jones lose his goddamn mind over a gel that suppresses Testosterone. It'll be glorious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/28/17 5:28:08 PM #9:	s0nicfan posted... This sounds like interesting research. That being said, I can't WAIT to hear Alex "turning the frogs gay" Jones lose his goddamn mind over a gel that suppresses Testosterone. It'll be glorious. Testosterone Gel already exists. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:893025072] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>This sounds like interesting research. That being said, I can't WAIT to hear Alex "turning the frogs gay" Jones lose his goddamn mind over a gel that suppresses Testosterone. It'll be glorious.</quote> Testosterone Gel already exists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 12/28/17 5:29:05 PM #10:	UnfairRepresent posted... s0nicfan posted... This sounds like interesting research. That being said, I can't WAIT to hear Alex "turning the frogs gay" Jones lose his goddamn mind over a gel that suppresses Testosterone. It'll be glorious. Testosterone Gel already exists. So? This is Alex Jones. He's going to read the line about it suppressing Testosterone, stop there, and then go into a frothing rage monologue. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:893025121] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>This sounds like interesting research. That being said, I can't WAIT to hear Alex "turning the frogs gay" Jones lose his goddamn mind over a gel that suppresses Testosterone. It'll be glorious.</quote> Testosterone Gel already exists.</quote> So? This is Alex Jones. He's going to read the line about it suppressing Testosterone, stop there, and then go into a frothing rage monologue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/28/17 5:30:57 PM #11:	damn i just read the article. suppressing your testosterone sounds dangerous --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:893025218] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>damn i just read the article. suppressing your testosterone sounds dangerous</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ulyanyx 12/28/17 5:33:36 PM #12:	Damn_Underscore posted... damn i just read the article. suppressing your testosterone sounds dangerous and yet people will just make jokes about "lol now men can deal with mood swings!" and ignore it. --- Sober from Alcohol since August 4th 2017 <cite>Ulyanyx posted [p:893025358] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>damn i just read the article. suppressing your testosterone sounds dangerous</quote> and yet people will just make jokes about "lol now men can deal with mood swings!" and ignore it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 12/28/17 5:37:01 PM #13:	I wish they had male birth control, with women always pulling the goalie and not telling you and shit --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:893025509] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>I wish they had male birth control, with women always pulling the goalie and not telling you and shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 12/28/17 5:39:50 PM #14:	UnfairRepresent posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... "The fact that the big companies are run by white, middle-aged males who have the same feeling -- that they would never do it -- plays a major role," gynecology professor Herjan Coelingh Bennink told Bloomberg. "If those companies were run by women, it would be totally different." The fuck does being white have to do with any of this crap? The relevance is the lack of interest in male birth control. Everyone in relevant positions of power to research or mass produce male birth control has no interest in doing so because like most industry it's male dominated. Yea i get the whole male thing but adding white male just reads like a jab at whites for no reason. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:893025641] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>"The fact that the big companies are run by white, middle-aged males who have the same feeling -- that they would never do it -- plays a major role," gynecology professor Herjan Coelingh Bennink told Bloomberg. "If those companies were run by women, it would be totally different." The fuck does being white have to do with any of this crap?</quote> The relevance is the lack of interest in male birth control. Everyone in relevant positions of power to research or mass produce male birth control has no interest in doing so because like most industry it's male dominated.</quote> Yea i get the whole male thing but adding white male just reads like a jab at whites for no reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/28/17 5:42:50 PM #15:	Why rub it on the arms, when the intended target area is much lower than that? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:893025778] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>Why rub it on the arms, when the intended target area is much lower than that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CreekCo 12/28/17 5:43:18 PM #16:	Damn_Underscore posted... damn i just read the article. suppressing your testosterone sounds dangerous Bad ideas.com People will still try it though Then be surprised when they have testicular cancer in about 30 years or so --- Triggered <cite>CreekCo posted [p:893025808] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>damn i just read the article. suppressing your testosterone sounds dangerous</quote> Bad ideas.com People will still try it though Then be surprised when they have testicular cancer in about 30 years or so</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/28/17 5:44:37 PM #17:	NINExATExSEVEN posted... Yea i get the whole male thing but adding white male just reads like a jab at whites for no reason. Probably some bitterness. It's easier not to care if you're also a white male --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:893025875] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote> Yea i get the whole male thing but adding white male just reads like a jab at whites for no reason.</quote> Probably some bitterness. It's easier not to care if you're also a white male</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/29/17 1:38:20 PM #18:	Damn_Underscore posted... damn i just read the article. suppressing your testosterone sounds dangerous That's why they're testing it --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:893070978] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>damn i just read the article. suppressing your testosterone sounds dangerous</quote> That's why they're testing it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 12/29/17 1:53:56 PM #19:	Questionmarktarius posted... Why rub it on the arms, when the intended target area is much lower than that? i would assume lymph node absorption and the actual area is the armpit or something i have way more confidence in vasalgel/RISUG than this but the inclusion of the anti-male quotation is needless. the last few tests of male birth control saw exceptionally positive reactions from the test subjects --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:893071751] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Why rub it on the arms, when the intended target area is much lower than that?</quote> i would assume lymph node absorption and the actual area is the armpit or something i have way more confidence in vasalgel/RISUG than this but the inclusion of the anti-male quotation is needless. the last few tests of male birth control saw exceptionally positive reactions from the test subjects</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 12/29/17 5:34:08 PM #20:	MhkaCHemistry posted... Maybe a strange question but why do they specify rubbing it into the arms? And why can't it just be a pill, is the dose needed really big? Hopefully they figured out how to avoid the side effects from the last big trial. I'm wondering the same thing. A pill would be more likely to work better. A gel seems kinda strange and inefficient. --- I'm a chick <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:893083193] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>MhkaCHemistry posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe a strange question but why do they specify rubbing it into the arms? And why can't it just be a pill, is the dose needed really big? Hopefully they figured out how to avoid the side effects from the last big trial.</quote> I'm wondering the same thing. A pill would be more likely to work better. A gel seems kinda strange and inefficient.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 12/29/17 5:39:03 PM #21:	Why a gel? Still, anything to max sexual pleasure for less STDs and unwanted babies --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:893083429] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>Why a gel? Still, anything to max sexual pleasure for less STDs and unwanted babies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlCalavicci 12/29/17 5:48:17 PM #23:	Why did TC link a photo of Rusev and Lana --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! <cite>AlCalavicci posted [p:893083874] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>Why did TC link a photo of Rusev and Lana</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mustachedmystic 12/29/17 5:57:34 PM #24:	AlCalavicci posted... Why did TC link a photo of Rusev and Lana Was wondering the same thing, though I don't know who those people are. --- Guns; freedom you can hold in your hand. Sampson, Terrordactyl <cite>mustachedmystic posted [p:893084332] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlCalavicci posted...</cite> <quote>Why did TC link a photo of Rusev and Lana</quote> Was wondering the same thing, though I don't know who those people are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 12/29/17 6:00:18 PM #25:	Lil_Bit83 posted... MhkaCHemistry posted... Maybe a strange question but why do they specify rubbing it into the arms? And why can't it just be a pill, is the dose needed really big? Hopefully they figured out how to avoid the side effects from the last big trial. I'm wondering the same thing. A pill would be more likely to work better. A gel seems kinda strange and inefficient. I love armchair medical researchers. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:893084468] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lil_Bit83 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MhkaCHemistry posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe a strange question but why do they specify rubbing it into the arms? And why can't it just be a pill, is the dose needed really big? Hopefully they figured out how to avoid the side effects from the last big trial.</quote> I'm wondering the same thing. A pill would be more likely to work better. A gel seems kinda strange and inefficient.</quote> I love armchair medical researchers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ultima Dragon 12/29/17 6:01:07 PM #26:	Won't this create a permanent issue for anyone that tries it? It's pretty well known that introducing synthetic testosterone causes natural production to shut down almost entirely, which leads to having to be on TRT for life just to feel and perform normally. --- "It's Canada, their idea of rioting is a half-muttered swear word." - deathbeforelife <cite>Ultima Dragon posted [p:893084514] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>Won't this create a permanent issue for anyone that tries it? It's pretty well known that introducing synthetic testosterone causes natural production to shut down almost entirely, which leads to having to be on TRT for life just to feel and perform normally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CreekCo 12/29/17 6:34:30 PM #27:	Probably.... --- Triggered <cite>CreekCo posted [p:893086254] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>Probably....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/30/17 2:24:41 AM #28:	AngelsNAirwav3s posted... I wish they had male birth control, with women always pulling the goalie and not telling you and shit condoms --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:893107786] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted...</cite> <quote>I wish they had male birth control, with women always pulling the goalie and not telling you and shit</quote> condoms</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 12/30/17 2:51:15 AM #29:	UnfairRepresent posted... In 2016, a clinical trial that utilized nestorone and synthetic testosterone showed a 96 percent success rate at suppressing sperm but included unpleasant side effects for test subjects. Patients reported that they experienced mood swings and muscle pain. Aren't those side affects already what women deal with when using hormonal birth control? Or are these much worse? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:893108506] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> In 2016, a clinical trial that utilized nestorone and synthetic testosterone showed a 96 percent success rate at suppressing sperm but included unpleasant side effects for test subjects. Patients reported that they experienced mood swings and muscle pain.</quote> Aren't those side affects already what women deal with when using hormonal birth control? Or are these much worse?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 12/30/17 2:59:35 AM #30:	Men look for excuses not to use condoms because we ain't shit. The men who most need to use this won't. Also who is the man in the op? It's two in the morning and i want more of those arms and those tits. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:893108750] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>Men look for excuses not to use condoms because we ain't shit. The men who most need to use this won't. Also who is the man in the op? It's two in the morning and i want more of those arms and those tits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 12/30/17 10:34:32 AM #31:	emblem boy posted... UnfairRepresent posted... In 2016, a clinical trial that utilized nestorone and synthetic testosterone showed a 96 percent success rate at suppressing sperm but included unpleasant side effects for test subjects. Patients reported that they experienced mood swings and muscle pain. Aren't those side affects already what women deal with when using hormonal birth control? Or are these much worse? these were dramatically stronger and more frequqent than female hormonal birth control. the study was not pulled because the patients didn't want to continue but because an external review board decided it wouldn't add anything to what was already known and would unquestionably subject its patients to definite and unnecessary side effects also one of the trial patients killed themself despite all this about 95% of the men who used it said they'd use it if it were a commercial product available to them that study has been massively editorialized in order to present a narrative that makes women feel validated --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:893118399] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> In 2016, a clinical trial that utilized nestorone and synthetic testosterone showed a 96 percent success rate at suppressing sperm but included unpleasant side effects for test subjects. Patients reported that they experienced mood swings and muscle pain.</quote> Aren't those side affects already what women deal with when using hormonal birth control? Or are these much worse?</quote> these were dramatically stronger and more frequqent than female hormonal birth control. the study was not pulled because the patients didn't want to continue but because an external review board decided it wouldn't add anything to what was already known and would unquestionably subject its patients to definite and unnecessary side effects also one of the trial patients killed themself despite all this about 95% of the men who used it said they'd use it if it were a commercial product available to them that study has been massively editorialized in order to present a narrative that makes women feel validated</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 12/30/17 10:37:39 AM #32:	Darkman124 posted... that study has been massively editorialized in order to present a narrative that makes women feel validated Makes women feel validated in regards to what? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:893118504] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote> that study has been massively editorialized in order to present a narrative that makes women feel validated</quote> Makes women feel validated in regards to what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 12/30/17 10:55:56 AM #33:	emblem boy posted... Darkman124 posted... that study has been massively editorialized in order to present a narrative that makes women feel validated Makes women feel validated in regards to what? their belief that they are strong and men are weak --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:893119124] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote> that study has been massively editorialized in order to present a narrative that makes women feel validated</quote> Makes women feel validated in regards to what?</quote> their belief that they are strong and men are weak</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 12/30/17 10:57:58 AM #34:	I see that Rusev/Lana photo in the OP --- http://i.imgur.com/DKNJbBm.jpg What a terrifying thing to happen. I'm not sure why but I have this big fear of going blond - Zurkon <cite>EverDownward posted [p:893119213] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>I see that Rusev/Lana photo in the OP</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 12/30/17 11:01:10 AM #35:	I like shooting with a loaded gun, so I really dont care. Female birth control also has important uses other than pregnancy protection I dont see this ever taking off --- You gotta fly like an eagle and not.b... be like a turkey <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:893119351] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>I like shooting with a loaded gun, so I really dont care. Female birth control also has important uses other than pregnancy protection I dont see this ever taking off</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 12/30/17 11:05:49 AM #36:	In the types of fiction I read, this kind of stuff always leads to the men waking up the next morning as attractive women. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:893119503] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>In the types of fiction I read, this kind of stuff always leads to the men waking up the next morning as attractive women.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 12/30/17 11:06:35 AM #37:	Skye Reynolds posted... In the types of fiction I read, this kind of stuff always leads to the men waking up the next morning as attractive women. I like the type of 'fanfiction' you're readin'! ~~Nobody calls pornographic fanfiction 'lemon' anymore, it's sad.~~ --- http://i.imgur.com/DKNJbBm.jpg What a terrifying thing to happen. I'm not sure why but I have this big fear of going blond - Zurkon <cite>EverDownward posted [p:893119537] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>In the types of fiction I read, this kind of stuff always leads to the men waking up the next morning as attractive women.</quote> I like the type of 'fanfiction' you're readin'! Nobody calls pornographic fanfiction 'lemon' anymore, it's sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 12/30/17 12:46:49 PM #38:	EverDownward posted... I see that Rusev/Lana photo in the OP Thank you for helping a guy out. The rest of y'all are stingy scrooges. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? https://i.imgtc.com/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:893123875] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>I see that Rusev/Lana photo in the OP</quote> Thank you for helping a guy out. The rest of y'all are stingy scrooges.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 12/30/17 3:16:58 PM #39:	hollow_shrine posted... EverDownward posted... I see that Rusev/Lana photo in the OP Thank you for helping a guy out. The rest of y'all are stingy scrooges. No prob. I'm just wondering why OP dropped an image of professional wrestlers for a topic completely unrelated to their profession. --- http://i.imgur.com/DKNJbBm.jpg What a terrifying thing to happen. I'm not sure why but I have this big fear of going blond - Zurkon <cite>EverDownward posted [p:893130863] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EverDownward posted...</cite> <quote>I see that Rusev/Lana photo in the OP</quote> Thank you for helping a guy out. The rest of y'all are stingy scrooges.</quote> No prob. I'm just wondering why OP dropped an image of professional wrestlers for a topic completely unrelated to their profession.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/31/17 6:16:38 PM #40:	Skye Reynolds posted... In the types of fiction I read, this kind of stuff always leads to the men waking up the next morning as attractive women. Insight into what sigless users get up too. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:893196196] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>In the types of fiction I read, this kind of stuff always leads to the men waking up the next morning as attractive women.</quote> Insight into what sigless users get up too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/01/18 2:12:11 PM #41:	Bump --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:893236518] in Male birth... [t:76145926]...</cite> <quote>Bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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