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XXHornDogXX 12/30/17 4:49:55 PM #253:	I just think more emphasis and blame needs to be placed on the little shit who thought this was funny. At the end of the day, wether the cops shot was justified or not, he was simply responding to his job. If this were a real hostage situation (which they have to take all calls seriously) he would be an acclaimed hero. I do not know 100% of the facts behind the trigger pull, and Im not saying the officer should get off easy, but this swatter needs to be made an example of. Not only did this result in a dead of an innocent human being, the officer is a victim of this as well. His life is forever changed and ruined. If he loses his job, his familys lives are ruined. The actual victims families lives are ruined. This prank costs the city/county potentially hundreds of throunds of dollars. This stunt also tarnished that police departments name and reputation. And arguably the pranker ruined his own life as well from this stunt. He needs to do some serious time, people been made an example of over less. This stunt has been going on for years now and It is not ok. Little 14 year old boys with nothing better to do than to swat their favorite twitch streamer because they get a malacious laugh outta It need to face felony charges. <cite>XXHornDogXX posted [p:893135191] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>I just think more emphasis and blame needs to be placed on the little shit who thought this was funny. At the end of the day, wether the cops shot was justified or not, he was simply responding to his job. If this were a real hostage situation (which they have to take all calls seriously) he would be an acclaimed hero. I do not know 100% of the facts behind the trigger pull, and Im not saying the officer should get off easy, but this swatter needs to be made an example of. Not only did this result in a dead of an innocent human being, the officer is a victim of this as well. His life is forever changed and ruined. If he loses his job, his familys lives are ruined. The actual victims families lives are ruined. This prank costs the city/county potentially hundreds of throunds of dollars. This stunt also tarnished that police departments name and reputation. And arguably the pranker ruined his own life as well from this stunt. He needs to do some serious time, people been made an example of over less. This stunt has been going on for years now and It is not ok. Little 14 year old boys with nothing better to do than to swat their favorite twitch streamer because they get a malacious laugh outta It need to face felony charges.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CensorErik 12/30/17 4:50:07 PM #254:	Zikten posted... like i said in another topic, the guy only had a few seconds to process what was happening and he was so confused...... whatever movement he made that set the cops off, it was just a twitch and he shouldn't have been shot. he likely died never understanding what happened. he was just living his life in his house and then he opens his door and gets murdered In the presser with the cops they said the dude put his hands up, then down to his waist, then up again and down again and he raised his hands towards officers and that's when the cop in the north fired a single shot at him. I agree it's tragic and scary, but the dude sees tons of cops around him screaming to keep his hands up and the dude reacted in a way that got him killed. It's the fault of the swatter. He had them thinking this dude killed his dad, poured gasoline all over his house, had hostages, and was armed with a handgun AND felt paranoidd and desperate. So in their minds he has nothing to lose so they are trying to minimize the damage they think has already, and is about to continue to be, done. --- Truth is like a rotten tooth, you gotta spit it out. LA Rams 11-4, Carolina Panthers 11-4 <cite>CensorErik posted [p:893135206] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>like i said in another topic, the guy only had a few seconds to process what was happening and he was so confused...... whatever movement he made that set the cops off, it was just a twitch and he shouldn't have been shot. he likely died never understanding what happened. he was just living his life in his house and then he opens his door and gets murdered</quote> In the presser with the cops they said the dude put his hands up, then down to his waist, then up again and down again and he raised his hands towards officers and that's when the cop in the north fired a single shot at him. I agree it's tragic and scary, but the dude sees tons of cops around him screaming to keep his hands up and the dude reacted in a way that got him killed. It's the fault of the swatter. He had them thinking this dude killed his dad, poured gasoline all over his house, had hostages, and was armed with a handgun AND felt paranoidd and desperate. So in their minds he has nothing to lose so they are trying to minimize the damage they think has already, and is about to continue to be, done.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CensorErik 12/30/17 4:54:46 PM #255:	XXHornDogXX posted... I just think more emphasis and blame needs to be placed on the little shit who thought this was funny. At the end of the day, wether the cops shot was justified or not, he was simply responding to his job. If this were a real hostage situation (which they have to take all calls seriously) he would be an acclaimed hero. I do not know 100% of the facts behind the trigger pull, and Im not saying the officer should get off easy, but this swatter needs to be made an example of. Not only did this result in a dead of an innocent human being, the officer is a victim of this as well. His life is forever changed and ruined. If he loses his job, his familys lives are ruined. The actual victims families lives are ruined. This prank costs the city/county potentially hundreds of throunds of dollars. This stunt also tarnished that police departments name and reputation. And arguably the pranker ruined his own life as well from this stunt. He needs to do some serious time, people been made an example of over less. This stunt has been going on for years now and It is not ok. Little 14 year old boys with nothing better to do than to swat their favorite twitch streamer because they get a malacious laugh outta It need to face felony charges. Agreed. People want to blame the cop, but pretend he just did it for no reason. I'm not a fan of police, but this situation was not caused by them. --- Truth is like a rotten tooth, you gotta spit it out. LA Rams 11-4, Carolina Panthers 11-4 <cite>CensorErik posted [p:893135430] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>XXHornDogXX posted...</cite> <quote>I just think more emphasis and blame needs to be placed on the little shit who thought this was funny. At the end of the day, wether the cops shot was justified or not, he was simply responding to his job. If this were a real hostage situation (which they have to take all calls seriously) he would be an acclaimed hero. I do not know 100% of the facts behind the trigger pull, and Im not saying the officer should get off easy, but this swatter needs to be made an example of. Not only did this result in a dead of an innocent human being, the officer is a victim of this as well. His life is forever changed and ruined. If he loses his job, his familys lives are ruined. The actual victims families lives are ruined. This prank costs the city/county potentially hundreds of throunds of dollars. This stunt also tarnished that police departments name and reputation. And arguably the pranker ruined his own life as well from this stunt. He needs to do some serious time, people been made an example of over less. This stunt has been going on for years now and It is not ok. Little 14 year old boys with nothing better to do than to swat their favorite twitch streamer because they get a malacious laugh outta It need to face felony charges.</quote> Agreed. People want to blame the cop, but pretend he just did it for no reason. I'm not a fan of police, but this situation was not caused by them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/30/17 4:56:21 PM #256:	CensorErik posted... Zikten posted... like i said in another topic, the guy only had a few seconds to process what was happening and he was so confused...... whatever movement he made that set the cops off, it was just a twitch and he shouldn't have been shot. he likely died never understanding what happened. he was just living his life in his house and then he opens his door and gets murdered In the presser with the cops they said the dude put his hands up, then down to his waist, then up again and down again and he raised his hands towards officers and that's when the cop in the north fired a single shot at him. I agree it's tragic and scary, but the dude sees tons of cops around him screaming to keep his hands up and the dude reacted in a way that got him killed. It's the fault of the swatter. He had them thinking this dude killed his dad, poured gasoline all over his house, had hostages, and was armed with a handgun AND felt paranoidd and desperate. So in their minds he has nothing to lose so they are trying to minimize the damage they think has already, and is about to continue to be, done. well why did they force his family to step over his dying corpse though? after they shot him, they went inside and realized nobody was hurt. and then they force everyone outside and make them step over a dying relative. I heard one of them was a 4 year old girl who saw her uncle die. <cite>Zikten posted [p:893135489] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>CensorErik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>like i said in another topic, the guy only had a few seconds to process what was happening and he was so confused...... whatever movement he made that set the cops off, it was just a twitch and he shouldn't have been shot. he likely died never understanding what happened. he was just living his life in his house and then he opens his door and gets murdered</quote> In the presser with the cops they said the dude put his hands up, then down to his waist, then up again and down again and he raised his hands towards officers and that's when the cop in the north fired a single shot at him. I agree it's tragic and scary, but the dude sees tons of cops around him screaming to keep his hands up and the dude reacted in a way that got him killed. It's the fault of the swatter. He had them thinking this dude killed his dad, poured gasoline all over his house, had hostages, and was armed with a handgun AND felt paranoidd and desperate. So in their minds he has nothing to lose so they are trying to minimize the damage they think has already, and is about to continue to be, done.</quote> well why did they force his family to step over his dying corpse though? after they shot him, they went inside and realized nobody was hurt. and then they force everyone outside and make them step over a dying relative. I heard one of them was a 4 year old girl who saw her uncle die.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 12/30/17 5:04:53 PM #257:	XXHornDogXX posted... And arguably the pranker ruined his own life as well from this stunt. Unfortunately his life isn't worth anything. Ruined a family, a SWAT officer's life, and lots of financial damage to a city isn't anywhere near as much what we gain from putting him away for good. Like, even if we straight up chair him, this will still leave a terrible taste in everyone's mouth. I hope he pleads guilty so we can save the trial and send him directly to prison for life. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893135882] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>XXHornDogXX posted...</cite> <quote>And arguably the pranker ruined his own life as well from this stunt. </quote> Unfortunately his life isn't worth anything. Ruined a family, a SWAT officer's life, and lots of financial damage to a city isn't anywhere near as much what we gain from putting him away for good. Like, even if we straight up chair him, this will still leave a terrible taste in everyone's mouth. I hope he pleads guilty so we can save the trial and send him directly to prison for life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CensorErik 12/30/17 5:11:36 PM #258:	Zikten posted... CensorErik posted... Zikten posted... like i said in another topic, the guy only had a few seconds to process what was happening and he was so confused...... whatever movement he made that set the cops off, it was just a twitch and he shouldn't have been shot. he likely died never understanding what happened. he was just living his life in his house and then he opens his door and gets murdered In the presser with the cops they said the dude put his hands up, then down to his waist, then up again and down again and he raised his hands towards officers and that's when the cop in the north fired a single shot at him. I agree it's tragic and scary, but the dude sees tons of cops around him screaming to keep his hands up and the dude reacted in a way that got him killed. It's the fault of the swatter. He had them thinking this dude killed his dad, poured gasoline all over his house, had hostages, and was armed with a handgun AND felt paranoidd and desperate. So in their minds he has nothing to lose so they are trying to minimize the damage they think has already, and is about to continue to be, done. well why did they force his family to step over his dying corpse though? after they shot him, they went inside and realized nobody was hurt. and then they force everyone outside and make them step over a dying relative. I heard one of them was a 4 year old girl who saw her uncle die. That was uncalled for, but I assume they were still treating it as an active crime scene and there's always a possibility a family member loses their mind over the shooting of their family member and does something crazy. They were securing the scene. That is pretty gross if true about the 4 year old especially. --- Truth is like a rotten tooth, you gotta spit it out. LA Rams 11-4, Carolina Panthers 11-4 <cite>CensorErik posted [p:893136264] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CensorErik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>like i said in another topic, the guy only had a few seconds to process what was happening and he was so confused...... whatever movement he made that set the cops off, it was just a twitch and he shouldn't have been shot. he likely died never understanding what happened. he was just living his life in his house and then he opens his door and gets murdered</quote> In the presser with the cops they said the dude put his hands up, then down to his waist, then up again and down again and he raised his hands towards officers and that's when the cop in the north fired a single shot at him. I agree it's tragic and scary, but the dude sees tons of cops around him screaming to keep his hands up and the dude reacted in a way that got him killed. It's the fault of the swatter. He had them thinking this dude killed his dad, poured gasoline all over his house, had hostages, and was armed with a handgun AND felt paranoidd and desperate. So in their minds he has nothing to lose so they are trying to minimize the damage they think has already, and is about to continue to be, done.</quote> well why did they force his family to step over his dying corpse though? after they shot him, they went inside and realized nobody was hurt. and then they force everyone outside and make them step over a dying relative. I heard one of them was a 4 year old girl who saw her uncle die.</quote> That was uncalled for, but I assume they were still treating it as an active crime scene and there's always a possibility a family member loses their mind over the shooting of their family member and does something crazy. They were securing the scene. That is pretty gross if true about the 4 year old especially.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 12/30/17 7:00:19 PM #259:	@CADE_FOSTER posted... Cop knob slobbers in full force Notice how you dont have anything relevant to say so you insult people....shows your level of intelligence --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893141803] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>@CADE_FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>Cop knob slobbers in full force</quote> Notice how you dont have anything relevant to say so you insult people....shows your level of intelligence</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 12/30/17 7:45:15 PM #260:	Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get. --- http://www.warwithwords.com He Who Leads: Global Ebook Award Winner:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:893143836] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JebronLames 12/30/17 8:05:45 PM #261:	Knowledge_King posted... Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get. really? you think the cop is more at fault than the guy who phoned in the false report? --- "I've always wanted there to be nothing between us, now there's not" <cite>JebronLames posted [p:893144797] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get.</quote> really? you think the cop is more at fault than the guy who phoned in the false report?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XXHornDogXX 12/30/17 8:23:22 PM #262:	ChromaticAngel posted... XXHornDogXX posted... And arguably the pranker ruined his own life as well from this stunt. Unfortunately his life isn't worth anything. Ruined a family, a SWAT officer's life, and lots of financial damage to a city isn't anywhere near as much what we gain from putting him away for good. Like, even if we straight up chair him, this will still leave a terrible taste in everyone's mouth. I hope he pleads guilty so we can save the trial and send him directly to prison for life. Not saying he should be put to death, but he should face some serious punishment to be made an example of and to deter other idiots in the future from pulling this "prank" We do gain something from prosecuting him. If this even prevent even just one future swatting prank, then its worth wasting more of the cities money to charge the prankster. <cite>XXHornDogXX posted [p:893145650] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>XXHornDogXX posted...</cite> <quote>And arguably the pranker ruined his own life as well from this stunt. </quote> Unfortunately his life isn't worth anything. Ruined a family, a SWAT officer's life, and lots of financial damage to a city isn't anywhere near as much what we gain from putting him away for good. Like, even if we straight up chair him, this will still leave a terrible taste in everyone's mouth. I hope he pleads guilty so we can save the trial and send him directly to prison for life.</quote> Not saying he should be put to death, but he should face some serious punishment to be made an example of and to deter other idiots in the future from pulling this "prank" We do gain something from prosecuting him. If this even prevent even just one future swatting prank, then its worth wasting more of the cities money to charge the prankster.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 12/30/17 8:30:49 PM #263:	voldothegr8 posted... 1 story today of cops who couldn't bother to get out of their car to help a woman about to get murdered, another story of cops who shoot first and ask later. wat @voldothegr8 --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:893146010] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>1 story today of cops who couldn't bother to get out of their car to help a woman about to get murdered, another story of cops who shoot first and ask later.</quote> wat @voldothegr8</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 12/30/17 9:02:31 PM #264:	XXHornDogXX posted... ChromaticAngel posted... XXHornDogXX posted... And arguably the pranker ruined his own life as well from this stunt. Unfortunately his life isn't worth anything. Ruined a family, a SWAT officer's life, and lots of financial damage to a city isn't anywhere near as much what we gain from putting him away for good. Like, even if we straight up chair him, this will still leave a terrible taste in everyone's mouth. I hope he pleads guilty so we can save the trial and send him directly to prison for life. Not saying he should be put to death, but he should face some serious punishment to be made an example of and to deter other idiots in the future from pulling this "prank" We do gain something from prosecuting him. If this even prevent even just one future swatting prank, then its worth wasting more of the cities money to charge the prankster. I don't mean not to prosecute him. I mean that no matter what we do to him, nothing will make any kind of reparations for the damage he's done. Someone who isn't worth anything killed someone who was. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893147507] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>XXHornDogXX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>XXHornDogXX posted...</cite> <quote>And arguably the pranker ruined his own life as well from this stunt. </quote> Unfortunately his life isn't worth anything. Ruined a family, a SWAT officer's life, and lots of financial damage to a city isn't anywhere near as much what we gain from putting him away for good. Like, even if we straight up chair him, this will still leave a terrible taste in everyone's mouth. I hope he pleads guilty so we can save the trial and send him directly to prison for life.</quote> Not saying he should be put to death, but he should face some serious punishment to be made an example of and to deter other idiots in the future from pulling this "prank" We do gain something from prosecuting him. If this even prevent even just one future swatting prank, then its worth wasting more of the cities money to charge the prankster.</quote> I don't mean not to prosecute him. I mean that no matter what we do to him, nothing will make any kind of reparations for the damage he's done. Someone who isn't worth anything killed someone who was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CensorErik 12/30/17 9:37:21 PM #265:	Knowledge_King posted... Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get. I haven't seen the video of the cop shooting the victim. I'll look for it and watch it. Didn't know it was released. I heard the 911 call and saw the press conference, but not the actual shooting. --- Truth is like a rotten tooth, you gotta spit it out. LA Rams 11-4, Carolina Panthers 11-4 <cite>CensorErik posted [p:893149146] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get.</quote> I haven't seen the video of the cop shooting the victim. I'll look for it and watch it. Didn't know it was released. I heard the 911 call and saw the press conference, but not the actual shooting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CensorErik 12/30/17 9:52:35 PM #266:	Weird that video didn't play earlier for me. Ok, unless they cut out a couple minutes from the whole video, their reports of what happened and what actually took place in that video don't match up at all. The police said he put his hands up and then back down twice after being told twice. They then said he raised his hand towards the cops and that's when he was shot. In the video I saw his hands go up, part way down, and then there's a shot. I'm not sure what to think now, but the shooting should be thoroughly investigated. What a s*** show. I really hope swatters learn how serious this stuff is and find a new, safe way to troll each other. Tragic. --- Truth is like a rotten tooth, you gotta spit it out. LA Rams 11-4, Carolina Panthers 11-4 <cite>CensorErik posted [p:893149915] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>Weird that video didn't play earlier for me. Ok, unless they cut out a couple minutes from the whole video, their reports of what happened and what actually took place in that video don't match up at all. The police said he put his hands up and then back down twice after being told twice. They then said he raised his hand towards the cops and that's when he was shot. In the video I saw his hands go up, part way down, and then there's a shot. I'm not sure what to think now, but the shooting should be thoroughly investigated. What a s*** show. I really hope swatters learn how serious this stuff is and find a new, safe way to troll each other. Tragic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/30/17 10:38:10 PM #267:	CensorErik posted... Knowledge_King posted... Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get. I haven't seen the video of the cop shooting the victim. I'll look for it and watch it. Didn't know it was released. I heard the 911 call and saw the press conference, but not the actual shooting. 911 call and footage released: http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article192244734.html Footage is NWS obviously I hate that I can't edit this into the OP. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893152050] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>CensorErik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get.</quote> I haven't seen the video of the cop shooting the victim. I'll look for it and watch it. Didn't know it was released. I heard the 911 call and saw the press conference, but not the actual shooting.</quote> 911 call and footage released: http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article192244734.html Footage is NWS obviously I hate that I can't edit this into the OP.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CensorErik 12/30/17 10:51:35 PM #268:	Thanks TC, but I watched it and responded already. --- Truth is like a rotten tooth, you gotta spit it out. LA Rams 11-4, Carolina Panthers 11-4 <cite>CensorErik posted [p:893152643] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>Thanks TC, but I watched it and responded already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/30/17 10:53:25 PM #269:	Sorry LOL yeesh. Just for some reason didn't think you had double posted so. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893152735] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>Sorry LOL yeesh. Just for some reason didn't think you had double posted so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 12/31/17 12:09:19 AM #270:	JebronLames posted... Knowledge_King posted... Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get. really? you think the cop is more at fault than the guy who phoned in the false report? I mean...which one of them killed an unarmed man for no reason? You can't pass off that blame to a guy for calling the cop. If the cop doesn't shoot the guy, no one dies and no murder charge can be given. Now on the other hand, cops have been called multiple times by people and don't always just shoot for no apparent reason. Also one's a random gamer with questionable...actions, one's a government employee entrusted with a kill weapon who's trained and meant to protect. Who do we expect more from? --- http://www.warwithwords.com He Who Leads: Global Ebook Award Winner:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:893156309] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>JebronLames posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get.</quote> really? you think the cop is more at fault than the guy who phoned in the false report?</quote> I mean...which one of them killed an unarmed man for no reason? You can't pass off that blame to a guy for calling the cop. If the cop doesn't shoot the guy, no one dies and no murder charge can be given. Now on the other hand, cops have been called multiple times by people and don't always just shoot for no apparent reason. Also one's a random gamer with questionable...actions, one's a government employee entrusted with a kill weapon who's trained and meant to protect. Who do we expect more from?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DELFON 12/31/17 1:10:57 AM #271:	Hexenherz posted... Also the cop only discharged one shot... If they thought it was a legitimate threat they theoretically would have fired more, unless it was meant to be a warning shot in which case his aim was pretty bad. That is not even funny to think about --- Just my two cents. <cite>DELFON posted [p:893158856] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>Also the cop only discharged one shot... If they thought it was a legitimate threat they theoretically would have fired more, unless it was meant to be a warning shot in which case his aim was pretty bad.</quote> That is not even funny to think about</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/31/17 9:55:28 AM #272:	Knowledge_King posted... I mean...which one of them killed an unarmed man for no reason? You can't pass off that blame to a guy for calling the cop. If the cop doesn't shoot the guy, no one dies and no murder charge can be given. Now on the other hand, cops have been called multiple times by people and don't always just shoot for no apparent reason. The innocent guy was thought to be a murderer who had covered the house in gas, was armed and was threatening to kill everyone. When the police arrived they asked him to put his hands on his head, He did, then he took them down, reached into his pocket while sticking a hand out. Cop thought he was reaching for a weapon. This is why the Swatter is entirely to blame. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:893171093] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote> I mean...which one of them killed an unarmed man for no reason? You can't pass off that blame to a guy for calling the cop. If the cop doesn't shoot the guy, no one dies and no murder charge can be given. Now on the other hand, cops have been called multiple times by people and don't always just shoot for no apparent reason. </quote> The innocent guy was thought to be a murderer who had covered the house in gas, was armed and was threatening to kill everyone. When the police arrived they asked him to put his hands on his head, He did, then he took them down, reached into his pocket while sticking a hand out. Cop thought he was reaching for a weapon. This is why the Swatter is entirely to blame.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 12/31/17 11:58:01 AM #273:	All involved should face serious repercussions really. From both the morons involved in the swatting because they are pathetically angry idiots, to the trigger happy cop who shot a confused man who had been bellowed at and blinded by lights. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:893175557] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>All involved should face serious repercussions really. From both the morons involved in the swatting because they are pathetically angry idiots, to the trigger happy cop who shot a confused man who had been bellowed at and blinded by lights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/31/17 3:03:07 PM #274:	DELFON posted... Hexenherz posted... Also the cop only discharged one shot... If they thought it was a legitimate threat they theoretically would have fired more, unless it was meant to be a warning shot in which case his aim was pretty bad. That is not even funny to think about I mean I'm not trying to make a joke at all, I am just confused why only one shot would have been fired if they thought it was a legitimate threat. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893185540] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>DELFON posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>Also the cop only discharged one shot... If they thought it was a legitimate threat they theoretically would have fired more, unless it was meant to be a warning shot in which case his aim was pretty bad.</quote> That is not even funny to think about</quote> I mean I'm not trying to make a joke at all, I am just confused why only one shot would have been fired if they thought it was a legitimate threat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XXHornDogXX 12/31/17 4:56:00 PM #275:	ChromaticAngel posted... XXHornDogXX posted... ChromaticAngel posted... XXHornDogXX posted... And arguably the pranker ruined his own life as well from this stunt. Unfortunately his life isn't worth anything. Ruined a family, a SWAT officer's life, and lots of financial damage to a city isn't anywhere near as much what we gain from putting him away for good. Like, even if we straight up chair him, this will still leave a terrible taste in everyone's mouth. I hope he pleads guilty so we can save the trial and send him directly to prison for life. Not saying he should be put to death, but he should face some serious punishment to be made an example of and to deter other idiots in the future from pulling this "prank" We do gain something from prosecuting him. If this even prevent even just one future swatting prank, then its worth wasting more of the cities money to charge the prankster. I don't mean not to prosecute him. I mean that no matter what we do to him, nothing will make any kind of reparations for the damage he's done. Someone who isn't worth anything killed someone who was. Itll prevent him from doing it again, which is likely since hes admitted to doing it plenty of times in the past, plus hes unremorseful and not taking responsibility for the death. Plus actually seeing someone do some serious time for this felony will further deter other idiots from swatting again. Obviously putting him in prison wont bring back the dead and reverse what has happened, but if hes off light due to some loop hole, its likely that hell swat again or pull some other malicious prank because being arrested for the last bomb threats he made did nothing to stop him. I dont believe in the death penalty and do believe in rehabilitation. But if its likely a criminal will reoffend, I do believe they should stay in prison to preven such future crimes. <cite>XXHornDogXX posted [p:893191812] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>XXHornDogXX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>XXHornDogXX posted...</cite> <quote>And arguably the pranker ruined his own life as well from this stunt. </quote> Unfortunately his life isn't worth anything. Ruined a family, a SWAT officer's life, and lots of financial damage to a city isn't anywhere near as much what we gain from putting him away for good. Like, even if we straight up chair him, this will still leave a terrible taste in everyone's mouth. I hope he pleads guilty so we can save the trial and send him directly to prison for life.</quote> Not saying he should be put to death, but he should face some serious punishment to be made an example of and to deter other idiots in the future from pulling this "prank" We do gain something from prosecuting him. If this even prevent even just one future swatting prank, then its worth wasting more of the cities money to charge the prankster.</quote> I don't mean not to prosecute him. I mean that no matter what we do to him, nothing will make any kind of reparations for the damage he's done. Someone who isn't worth anything killed someone who was.</quote> Itll prevent him from doing it again, which is likely since hes admitted to doing it plenty of times in the past, plus hes unremorseful and not taking responsibility for the death. Plus actually seeing someone do some serious time for this felony will further deter other idiots from swatting again. Obviously putting him in prison wont bring back the dead and reverse what has happened, but if hes off light due to some loop hole, its likely that hell swat again or pull some other malicious prank because being arrested for the last bomb threats he made did nothing to stop him. I dont believe in the death penalty and do believe in rehabilitation. But if its likely a criminal will reoffend, I do believe they should stay in prison to preven such future crimes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/31/17 5:22:49 PM #276:	I feel like you can't rehabilitate someone who doesn't seem capable of understanding basic moral principles. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893193255] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>I feel like you can't rehabilitate someone who doesn't seem capable of understanding basic moral principles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 2:20:37 PM #277:	Knowledge_King posted... Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get. You're a joke dude. Cop was responding to an armed killer who had people hostage. Dude ignored cops orders and reached in his waistband where guns are kept. Cop had every right to shoot. Get over yourself. --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893236921] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get.</quote> You're a joke dude. Cop was responding to an armed killer who had people hostage. Dude ignored cops orders and reached in his waistband where guns are kept. Cop had every right to shoot. Get over yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 01/01/18 2:23:25 PM #278:	KingCrabCake posted... Knowledge_King posted... Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get. You're a joke dude. Cop was responding to an armed killer who had people hostage. Dude ignored cops orders and reached in his waistband where guns are kept. Cop had every right to shoot. Get over yourself. I dont; think it was a matter of "ignoring the orders" someone recently on CE made a topic saying they have had guns pointed at them 4 times in their life. and that when it happens, everything feels surreal and fake. it's easy to make a mistake in that haze. keep in mind that the guy was scared out of his mind probably and didn't understand what was happening <cite>Zikten posted [p:893237070] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get.</quote> You're a joke dude. Cop was responding to an armed killer who had people hostage. Dude ignored cops orders and reached in his waistband where guns are kept. Cop had every right to shoot. Get over yourself.</quote> I dont; think it was a matter of "ignoring the orders" someone recently on CE made a topic saying they have had guns pointed at them 4 times in their life. and that when it happens, everything feels surreal and fake. it's easy to make a mistake in that haze. keep in mind that the guy was scared out of his mind probably and didn't understand what was happening</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 2:23:26 PM #279:	Hexenherz posted... DELFON posted... Hexenherz posted... Also the cop only discharged one shot... If they thought it was a legitimate threat they theoretically would have fired more, unless it was meant to be a warning shot in which case his aim was pretty bad. That is not even funny to think about I mean I'm not trying to make a joke at all, I am just confused why only one shot would have been fired if they thought it was a legitimate threat. So shoot once...cop is a bad guy. Shoot more than once...cop is triggered happy. Maybe he shot once because that was all that was needed to eliminate the threat...aka good aim --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893237072] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DELFON posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>Also the cop only discharged one shot... If they thought it was a legitimate threat they theoretically would have fired more, unless it was meant to be a warning shot in which case his aim was pretty bad.</quote> That is not even funny to think about</quote> I mean I'm not trying to make a joke at all, I am just confused why only one shot would have been fired if they thought it was a legitimate threat.</quote> So shoot once...cop is a bad guy. Shoot more than once...cop is triggered happy. Maybe he shot once because that was all that was needed to eliminate the threat...aka good aim</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/01/18 2:23:55 PM #280:	Hexenherz posted... I feel like you can't rehabilitate someone who doesn't seem capable of understanding basic moral principles. And your point is? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:893237107] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like you can't rehabilitate someone who doesn't seem capable of understanding basic moral principles.</quote> And your point is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 2:25:01 PM #281:	Zikten posted... KingCrabCake posted... Knowledge_King posted... Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get. You're a joke dude. Cop was responding to an armed killer who had people hostage. Dude ignored cops orders and reached in his waistband where guns are kept. Cop had every right to shoot. Get over yourself. I dont; think it was a matter of "ignoring the orders" someone recently on CE made a topic saying they have had guns pointed at them 4 times in their life. and that when it happens, everything feels surreal and fake. it's easy to make a mistake in that haze. keep in mind that the guy was scared out of his mind probably and didn't understand what was happening Ya im not believing someone on CE was held at gun point four times. Nor will I even think of comparing criminals pointing a gun at me and a cop pointing a gun at me are the same. Not saying the victim is to blame here but its extremely understandable why the cop fired a shot. --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893237165] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>Swatter should get whatever people who call in false police calls get. Not murder. Cop should get murder. He shot the guy for no reason. There's no way he feared for his life, given that video. And that's honestly despicable that anyone sees the cop as the victim. He made the choice to shoot an unarmed man without seeing or knowing anything about him. He had no visible or tangible reason and because of him, someone is dead. He should get a normal murder charge as a civilian would get.</quote> You're a joke dude. Cop was responding to an armed killer who had people hostage. Dude ignored cops orders and reached in his waistband where guns are kept. Cop had every right to shoot. Get over yourself.</quote> I dont; think it was a matter of "ignoring the orders" someone recently on CE made a topic saying they have had guns pointed at them 4 times in their life. and that when it happens, everything feels surreal and fake. it's easy to make a mistake in that haze. keep in mind that the guy was scared out of his mind probably and didn't understand what was happening</quote> Ya im not believing someone on CE was held at gun point four times. Nor will I even think of comparing criminals pointing a gun at me and a cop pointing a gun at me are the same. Not saying the victim is to blame here but its extremely understandable why the cop fired a shot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/01/18 2:37:24 PM #282:	I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893237752] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 2:45:00 PM #283:	hockeybub89 posted... I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed. Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893238142] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed.</quote> Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 01/01/18 2:46:09 PM #284:	KingCrabCake posted... Ya im not believing someone on CE was held at gun point four times. Nor will I even think of comparing criminals pointing a gun at me and a cop pointing a gun at me are the same. Not saying the victim is to blame here but its extremely understandable why the cop fired a shot. I mean, he went to the door to investigate a sound and got a bright light shone in his face and shouted at. Are you telling me you would react with complete calm in that scenario and not with confusion? --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:893238203] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Ya im not believing someone on CE was held at gun point four times. Nor will I even think of comparing criminals pointing a gun at me and a cop pointing a gun at me are the same. Not saying the victim is to blame here but its extremely understandable why the cop fired a shot.</quote> I mean, he went to the door to investigate a sound and got a bright light shone in his face and shouted at. Are you telling me you would react with complete calm in that scenario and not with confusion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 2:50:29 PM #285:	Funkydog posted... KingCrabCake posted... Ya im not believing someone on CE was held at gun point four times. Nor will I even think of comparing criminals pointing a gun at me and a cop pointing a gun at me are the same. Not saying the victim is to blame here but its extremely understandable why the cop fired a shot. I mean, he went to the door to investigate a sound and got a bright light shone in his face and shouted at. Are you telling me you would react with complete calm in that scenario and not with confusion? Umm you mean they gave him an order...he listened and then decided to Stop listening and reach for his waistband... Yeah i will definitely never reach for my pockets or waistband if stopped by the cops --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893238437] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Ya im not believing someone on CE was held at gun point four times. Nor will I even think of comparing criminals pointing a gun at me and a cop pointing a gun at me are the same. Not saying the victim is to blame here but its extremely understandable why the cop fired a shot.</quote> I mean, he went to the door to investigate a sound and got a bright light shone in his face and shouted at. Are you telling me you would react with complete calm in that scenario and not with confusion?</quote> Umm you mean they gave him an order...he listened and then decided to Stop listening and reach for his waistband... Yeah i will definitely never reach for my pockets or waistband if stopped by the cops</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 01/01/18 2:52:52 PM #286:	KingCrabCake posted... Umm you mean they gave him an order...he listened and then decided to Stop listening and reach for his waistband... Yeah i will definitely never reach for my pockets or waistband if stopped by the cops He could likely have not realised they were cops as didn't go to the door knowing was a swat team waiting for him. He then had a bright light shone in his face likely startling him (making him move his hands to cover his eyes) and making him rather on edge. Also judging by the video of the event likely couldn't even hear the police properly as you can't in it, and it is taken from someone FAR closer to the police shouting than the man shot was. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:893238562] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Umm you mean they gave him an order...he listened and then decided to Stop listening and reach for his waistband... Yeah i will definitely never reach for my pockets or waistband if stopped by the cops</quote> He could likely have not realised they were cops as didn't go to the door knowing was a swat team waiting for him. He then had a bright light shone in his face likely startling him (making him move his hands to cover his eyes) and making him rather on edge. Also judging by the video of the event likely couldn't even hear the police properly as you can't in it, and it is taken from someone FAR closer to the police shouting than the man shot was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 2:56:22 PM #287:	Funkydog posted... KingCrabCake posted... Umm you mean they gave him an order...he listened and then decided to Stop listening and reach for his waistband... Yeah i will definitely never reach for my pockets or waistband if stopped by the cops He could likely have not realised they were cops as didn't go to the door knowing was a swat team waiting for him. He then had a bright light shone in his face likely startling him (making him move his hands to cover his eyes) and making him rather on edge. Also judging by the video of the event likely couldn't even hear the police properly as you can't in it, and it is taken from someone FAR closer to the police shouting than the man shot was. It was 100% obvious that they were cops. And he reached for his waistband....your eyes arent located around your waistband --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893238749] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Umm you mean they gave him an order...he listened and then decided to Stop listening and reach for his waistband... Yeah i will definitely never reach for my pockets or waistband if stopped by the cops</quote> He could likely have not realised they were cops as didn't go to the door knowing was a swat team waiting for him. He then had a bright light shone in his face likely startling him (making him move his hands to cover his eyes) and making him rather on edge. Also judging by the video of the event likely couldn't even hear the police properly as you can't in it, and it is taken from someone FAR closer to the police shouting than the man shot was.</quote> It was 100% obvious that they were cops. And he reached for his waistband....your eyes arent located around your waistband</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 01/01/18 4:44:16 PM #288:	hopefully kingcrab never has like 10 cops aim guns and lights in his face when he's confused. he might "decide to not listen to orders " <cite>Zikten posted [p:893243891] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>hopefully kingcrab never has like 10 cops aim guns and lights in his face when he's confused. he might "decide to not listen to orders "</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/01/18 4:48:16 PM #289:	KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed. Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893244073] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed.</quote> Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up</quote> Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SavenForever 01/01/18 4:49:18 PM #290:	Bluebomber182 posted... it was only a matter of time. swatting aint funny and fuck people that do it This. And this is the only reason why I won't do any twitch streaming, because of shit like this. --- http://i.imgur.com/aFt7pKH.jpg <cite>SavenForever posted [p:893244125] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bluebomber182 posted...</cite> <quote>it was only a matter of time. swatting aint funny and fuck people that do it</quote> This. And this is the only reason why I won't do any twitch streaming, because of shit like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 01/01/18 4:51:51 PM #291:	hockeybub89 posted... Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party. If the cops point guns at you and tell you to do something, you do that. If you didn't know that, well, gene pool might be better off in your absence, just saying. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:893244249] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party.</quote> If the cops point guns at you and tell you to do something, you do that. If you didn't know that, well, gene pool might be better off in your absence, just saying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/01/18 5:00:59 PM #292:	KingCrabCake posted... Hexenherz posted... DELFON posted... Hexenherz posted... Also the cop only discharged one shot... If they thought it was a legitimate threat they theoretically would have fired more, unless it was meant to be a warning shot in which case his aim was pretty bad. That is not even funny to think about I mean I'm not trying to make a joke at all, I am just confused why only one shot would have been fired if they thought it was a legitimate threat. So shoot once...cop is a bad guy. Shoot more than once...cop is triggered happy. Maybe he shot once because that was all that was needed to eliminate the threat...aka good aim "Shooting once" in this case still makes it seem like the cop was trigger happy. If his aim was that good he would have fired at a non-lethal location, not at a spot that killed the guy. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893244674] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DELFON posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>Also the cop only discharged one shot... If they thought it was a legitimate threat they theoretically would have fired more, unless it was meant to be a warning shot in which case his aim was pretty bad.</quote> That is not even funny to think about</quote> I mean I'm not trying to make a joke at all, I am just confused why only one shot would have been fired if they thought it was a legitimate threat.</quote> So shoot once...cop is a bad guy. Shoot more than once...cop is triggered happy. Maybe he shot once because that was all that was needed to eliminate the threat...aka good aim</quote> "Shooting once" in this case still makes it seem like the cop was trigger happy. If his aim was that good he would have fired at a non-lethal location, not at a spot that killed the guy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 01/01/18 5:10:49 PM #293:	Hexenherz posted... "Shooting once" in this case still makes it seem like the cop was trigger happy. If his aim was that good he would have fired at a non-lethal location, not at a spot that killed the guy. there is no such thing as a safe location to shoot someone most parts on the body you can aim at contain a major artery causing the one shot to bleed out and cops are literally trained to shoot to kill. always aim for the chest cause its the largest target and the one you are most likely to hit --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:893245143] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>"Shooting once" in this case still makes it seem like the cop was trigger happy. If his aim was that good he would have fired at a non-lethal location, not at a spot that killed the guy.</quote> there is no such thing as a safe location to shoot someone most parts on the body you can aim at contain a major artery causing the one shot to bleed out and cops are literally trained to shoot to kill. always aim for the chest cause its the largest target and the one you are most likely to hit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/01/18 5:17:36 PM #294:	r4X0r posted... hockeybub89 posted... Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party. If the cops point guns at you and tell you to do something, you do that. If you didn't know that, well, gene pool might be better off in your absence, just saying. But we aren't talking about you. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893245495] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party.</quote> If the cops point guns at you and tell you to do something, you do that. If you didn't know that, well, gene pool might be better off in your absence, just saying.</quote> But we aren't talking about you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 5:37:00 PM #295:	Hexenherz posted... KingCrabCake posted... Hexenherz posted... DELFON posted... Hexenherz posted... Also the cop only discharged one shot... If they thought it was a legitimate threat they theoretically would have fired more, unless it was meant to be a warning shot in which case his aim was pretty bad. That is not even funny to think about I mean I'm not trying to make a joke at all, I am just confused why only one shot would have been fired if they thought it was a legitimate threat. So shoot once...cop is a bad guy. Shoot more than once...cop is triggered happy. Maybe he shot once because that was all that was needed to eliminate the threat...aka good aim "Shooting once" in this case still makes it seem like the cop was trigger happy. If his aim was that good he would have fired at a non-lethal location, not at a spot that killed the guy. Bro stop watching movies. --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893246451] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DELFON posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>Also the cop only discharged one shot... If they thought it was a legitimate threat they theoretically would have fired more, unless it was meant to be a warning shot in which case his aim was pretty bad.</quote> That is not even funny to think about</quote> I mean I'm not trying to make a joke at all, I am just confused why only one shot would have been fired if they thought it was a legitimate threat.</quote> So shoot once...cop is a bad guy. Shoot more than once...cop is triggered happy. Maybe he shot once because that was all that was needed to eliminate the threat...aka good aim</quote> "Shooting once" in this case still makes it seem like the cop was trigger happy. If his aim was that good he would have fired at a non-lethal location, not at a spot that killed the guy.</quote> Bro stop watching movies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/01/18 5:38:10 PM #296:	Not my finest post, but still... Regardless, I still feel more anger towards the dumbass who made the call than I could for the cop. I hope that's something we can all agree on. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893246506] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>Not my finest post, but still... Regardless, I still feel more anger towards the dumbass who made the call than I could for the cop. I hope that's something we can all agree on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 5:38:26 PM #297:	hockeybub89 posted... KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed. Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party. I mean when a cop tells you keep your hands where i can see them and you decide to you know go to your waistband theyre going to shoot...esp when theyre responding to an active shooter and hostage situation --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893246523] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed.</quote> Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up</quote> Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party.</quote> I mean when a cop tells you keep your hands where i can see them and you decide to you know go to your waistband theyre going to shoot...esp when theyre responding to an active shooter and hostage situation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 5:39:19 PM #298:	Hexenherz posted... Not my finest post, but still... Regardless, I still feel more anger towards the dumbass who made the call than I could for the cop. I hope that's something we can all agree on. There should be no anger towards the cop that fired a shot. He was doing what was right (hindsight not invovled) --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893246558] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>Not my finest post, but still... Regardless, I still feel more anger towards the dumbass who made the call than I could for the cop. I hope that's something we can all agree on.</quote> There should be no anger towards the cop that fired a shot. He was doing what was right (hindsight not invovled)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 01/01/18 5:40:08 PM #299:	It's not like he did it intentionally to piss the cops off or make a threatening gesture. From his perspective, he had absolutely zero reason to believe that he was the suspect in a reported crime. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:893246591] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote>It's not like he did it intentionally to piss the cops off or make a threatening gesture. From his perspective, he had absolutely zero reason to believe that he was the suspect in a reported crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 01/01/18 5:40:36 PM #300:	hockeybub89 posted... KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed. Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party. uh yeah it's part of the social contract you follow by living here. do you just decide you don't have to follow laws too? --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:893246607] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed.</quote> Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up</quote> Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party.</quote> uh yeah it's part of the social contract you follow by living here. do you just decide you don't have to follow laws too?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 01/01/18 5:41:31 PM #301:	Hexenherz posted... It's not like he did it intentionally to piss the cops off or make a threatening gesture. From his perspective, he had absolutely zero reason to believe that he was the suspect in a reported crime. Doesnt matter cops pointing guns at u and tell u keep ur hands up...you do it. Like who ovee the age or 13 doesnt know this I hate that a man lost his life but come on the cop really didn't "murder" the person for no reason --- Bulls 4 life ! Get Rondo out of here. <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:893246659] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>It's not like he did it intentionally to piss the cops off or make a threatening gesture. From his perspective, he had absolutely zero reason to believe that he was the suspect in a reported crime.</quote> Doesnt matter cops pointing guns at u and tell u keep ur hands up...you do it. Like who ovee the age or 13 doesnt know this I hate that a man lost his life but come on the cop really didn't "murder" the person for no reason</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/01/18 5:41:57 PM #302:	KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... KingCrabCake posted... hockeybub89 posted... I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed. Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party. I mean when a cop tells you keep your hands where i can see them and you decide to you know go to your waistband theyre going to shoot...esp when theyre responding to an active shooter and hostage situation This suggests most people blindsided by a high stress situation will react calmly and logically. You'd think trained police officers would understand the human psyche. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:893246678] in Kansas man... [t:76148671]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I hope I never get the cops called on me by a troll because I will definitely be shot and killed.</quote> Why? Can't follow a simple order of keeping your hands up</quote> Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion I may be a little nervous, upset and confused in such a situation and not just drop to my knees with my hands up in subservience. I forgot it's the civilian's responsibility to know how to survive a police encounter. We need to be the calm, controlled party.</quote> I mean when a cop tells you keep your hands where i can see them and you decide to you know go to your waistband theyre going to shoot...esp when theyre responding to an active shooter and hostage situation</quote> This suggests most people blindsided by a high stress situation will react calmly and logically. You'd think trained police officers would understand the human psyche.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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