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SpaceBear_
12/30/17 1:36:04 AM
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Why is it so widespread? It's unnatural.
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Zeus
12/30/17 1:37:24 AM
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Not that widespread. Only 3.2% of Americans are vegetarians.
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Nightengale
12/30/17 1:38:54 AM
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"unnatural" is a meaningless distinction. there is more to the universe than Heaven and Earth
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Zeus
12/30/17 1:40:05 AM
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Nightengale posted...
"unnatural" is a meaningless distinction. there is more to the universe than Heaven and Earth


tbh, it's not so much "unnatural" as it is "abnormal." Normalcy is a more meaningful distinction.
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Krazy_Kirby
12/30/17 1:44:49 AM
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because people are whackjobs
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Krazy_Kirby
12/30/17 1:46:01 AM
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Zeus posted...
Nightengale posted...
"unnatural" is a meaningless distinction. there is more to the universe than Heaven and Earth


tbh, it's not so much "unnatural" as it is "abnormal." Normalcy is a more meaningful distinction.


well since humans have both types of teeth, it is unnatural. we are meant to eat meat and plants
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SpaceBear_
12/30/17 1:46:02 AM
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Seems like everyone I meet is veggie, vegan or had some obscure dietary condition.

Are people making it up nowadays.
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SpaceBear_
12/30/17 1:47:55 AM
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A woman in my restaurant tonight said she couldn't eat gluten. I told her the chips (fries) were not gluten-free and she's like "I love chips though so it doesn't matter.
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Questionmarktarius
12/30/17 1:55:46 AM
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Run your tongue across your teeth, right now.
The meat-stabby ones (canines), are badly diminished compared to apes, monkeys, or actual canines.

SpaceBear_ posted...
I told her the chips (fries) were not gluten-free

There is no gluten in potato.
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Golden Road
12/30/17 2:21:04 AM
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Everyone draws their own personal line somewhere. For vegetarians, they draw the line at any and all animals. But you know how some people complain when they hear about other countries eating dogs? That's because they still have their own personal line drawn, too.
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Doctor Foxx
12/30/17 2:21:14 AM
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More vegetarian options exist, research backs up plant based eating as being healthier, animal products take a great toll on the environment, and many people are concerned about the cruelty of animal agriculture. Younger people are more likely than any previous generation to abstain from meat, and people are sticking to it. I don't expect this growth to stop any time soon.

There are many vegetarians worldwide. Meat is just overly abundant and cheap through subsidies in some places like the US. Making meat a much higher part of some diets than others.
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Questionmarktarius
12/30/17 2:22:35 AM
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Golden Road posted...
But you know how some people complain when they hear about other countries eating dogs?

If you think that's bad, look into the taboo against eating horse.
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Nightengale
12/30/17 2:53:08 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
well since humans have both types of teeth, it is unnatural. we are meant to eat meat and plants

yeah, you're right. now if you'll excuse me i'm going to go draw on the walls of my cave and be shocked at the sight of fire
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Questionmarktarius
12/30/17 2:54:49 AM
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Nightengale posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
well since humans have both types of teeth, it is unnatural. we are meant to eat meat and plants

yeah, you're right. now if you'll excuse me i'm going to go draw on the walls of my cave and be shocked at the sight of fire

Pandas are made of carnivorous engineering, yet all they eat is bamboo for some reason.
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Nightengale
12/30/17 2:55:41 AM
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pandas are also making themselves extinct because they're too lazy to have sex

we probably shouldn't be looking to them as a model
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Questionmarktarius
12/30/17 2:56:33 AM
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Nightengale posted...
pandas are also making themselves extinct because they're too lazy to have sex

we probably shouldn't be looking to them as a model for carnivores

That's... not a bad argument at all.
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ReturnOfFa
12/30/17 2:59:23 AM
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I'm fine with vegetarians and love a couple of vegan places in town. I'm a meat-eater though. I just recognize the economic value and health benefits of a less meat-heavy diet, although I do eat a fair amount of meat at my parent's home. Yes, people annoyed the shit out of my during my time in the food industry (all positions from dishwasher to managing pizza bar and ramen bar chef/manager). Fake celiacs, people who can't deduce what "Spicy Miso" means to their palate, people who order pizza with feta and anchonies, then complain about it being too salty....

just try not to stay too salty folks
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ReturnOfFa
12/30/17 3:03:01 AM
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I can't go too long without tasting pork, beef, chicken, lamb, fish, or whatever else I can get my hands on tho lmbo
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Questionmarktarius
12/30/17 3:03:16 AM
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Veganism is almost viable. Almost.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
Human metabolism cannot make cobalamin, nor any of its analogues. The only known non-animal source is seaweed.
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adjl
12/30/17 3:05:26 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
Zeus posted...
Nightengale posted...
"unnatural" is a meaningless distinction. there is more to the universe than Heaven and Earth


tbh, it's not so much "unnatural" as it is "abnormal." Normalcy is a more meaningful distinction.


well since humans have both types of teeth, it is unnatural. we are meant to eat meat and plants


Evolutionarily, humans are scavengers, which amounts to eating whatever one can find. Accordingly, we have teeth that can process a wide variety of foods. The development of agriculture (which is unnatural), however, means that's no longer the case, and we have a vastly greater degree of dietary choice available. To that end, what we evolved to eat doesn't really matter anymore.
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SpaceBear_
12/30/17 3:05:52 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Run your tongue across your teeth, right now.
The meat-stabby ones (canines), are badly diminished compared to apes, monkeys, or actual canines.

SpaceBear_ posted...
I told her the chips (fries) were not gluten-free

There is no gluten in potato.


Yeah sorry, the reason was that our restaurant has only a small kitchen and the oil we use to fry the chips is used for other non-glutenfree foods.
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Doctor Foxx
12/30/17 3:18:37 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Veganism is almost viable. Almost.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
Human metabolism cannot make cobalamin, nor any of its analogues. The only known non-animal source is seaweed.

But the meat you eat is fed B12 to give it the B12. Without supplementation they're chronically deficient as well. Animals are not the best way to get your B12.

http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/carnivores-need-vitamin-b12-supplements/2013/10/30

I previously suffered from chronic B12 deficiency on an omni diet and was supplementing B12 with a megadose 2x every week. Doing a supplement 1x a week with a vegan diet, my B12 blood levels are better than ever.
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Zeus
12/30/17 3:19:59 AM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Veganism is almost viable. Almost.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
Human metabolism cannot make cobalamin, nor any of its analogues. The only known non-animal source is seaweed.

But the meat you eat is fed B12 to give it the B12. Without supplementation they're chronically deficient as well. Annuals are not the best way to get your B12.

http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/carnivores-need-vitamin-b12-supplements/2013/10/30

I previously suffered from chronic B12 deficiency on an omni diet and was supplementing B12 with a megadose 2x every week. Doing a supplement 1x a week with a vegan diet, my B12 blood levels are better than ever.


If animals can be given it, shouldn't there be some way to introduce it into plants as well?
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Questionmarktarius
12/30/17 3:25:09 AM
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Zeus posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Veganism is almost viable. Almost.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
Human metabolism cannot make cobalamin, nor any of its analogues. The only known non-animal source is seaweed.

But the meat you eat is fed B12 to give it the B12. Without supplementation they're chronically deficient as well. Annuals are not the best way to get your B12.

http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/carnivores-need-vitamin-b12-supplements/2013/10/30

I previously suffered from chronic B12 deficiency on an omni diet and was supplementing B12 with a megadose 2x every week. Doing a supplement 1x a week with a vegan diet, my B12 blood levels are better than ever.


If animals can be given it, shouldn't there be some way to introduce it into plants as well?

Birds make B12. Eat a chicken roughly every month or so, and you're good.

I take a daily cobalamin supplement, out of paranoia.
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shadowsword87
12/30/17 3:27:02 AM
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I only am not a vegetarian for a few reasons.

1. I don't want to be picky and detail orientated about the stuff I eat, I don't want to go to restaurants and make sure it's fine and then while shopping go through the details of every food item that I buy. It's... just not a time investment I'm really into.
2. When I cook I want to be able to try everything, I still do make vegetarian/vegan dishes (and I will happily try out those weird vegan-meats to see what they're like) but I want to check out other things. Also it's weird, but I actually like trimming fat off of meat, I realize that's probably bad, but I like it.

If I lived in a more Asian country where vegetarianism were easier, I'd do it no problem but I live where I live.

I never really bothered with the whole "vitamin" argument, it's only relevant when there's a massive deficiency and overdosing on them is a much more real problem.
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Doctor Foxx
12/30/17 3:33:11 AM
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Zeus posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Veganism is almost viable. Almost.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
Human metabolism cannot make cobalamin, nor any of its analogues. The only known non-animal source is seaweed.

But the meat you eat is fed B12 to give it the B12. Without supplementation they're chronically deficient as well. Annuals are not the best way to get your B12.

http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/carnivores-need-vitamin-b12-supplements/2013/10/30

I previously suffered from chronic B12 deficiency on an omni diet and was supplementing B12 with a megadose 2x every week. Doing a supplement 1x a week with a vegan diet, my B12 blood levels are better than ever.


If animals can be given it, shouldn't there be some way to introduce it into plants as well?

We used to get it from traces of ruminant animal waste on plants that weren't washed thoroughly. That's how plants had it. If you mean genetic engineering, why bother. Plants lack a digestive tract to grow the bacteria themselves. That and there's already readily available supplements made by bacteria.
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Maximothelad
12/30/17 4:07:56 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
because people are whackjobs

This times 1000! At least it's better than being a "vegan" hahaa
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wwinterj25
12/30/17 1:00:52 PM
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SpaceBear_ posted...
Are people making it up nowadays.


Yes. The thing is a lot of folk want to feel special so must make up terms to set them apart from the masses. Although being vegetarian is one of the oldest terms I know of.
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SunWuKung420
12/30/17 1:36:50 PM
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Need B12, eat more eggs.
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_EggplantWizard
12/30/17 2:10:06 PM
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I quit eating meat for the same reason that alcoholics quit drinking alcohol.
I love meat to the point that it's bad for me. I would pile on the bacon for breakfast, eat a sandwich loaded with ham for lunch, and then have two cheeseburgers for dinner. ...while snacking on beef jerky in between. Nobody should be eating that much meat. ...so I became a vegetarian and I feel a whole lot better than when I was consuming tons of meat products.
I believe that people should eat meat. I believe in hunting and fishing. I have no problem if my food is made with chicken broth or beef broth. I have no problem if my food touches meat. I just don't want to eat solid meat anymore because I will overdo it.
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Mead
12/30/17 2:29:07 PM
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Vegetarians seem really smart to me. I mean they dont eat meat for their health which is probably smart, but theyre smart enough to know that cheese is never worth giving up.
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Zeus
12/30/17 2:50:44 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
I only am not a vegetarian for a few reasons.

1. I don't want to be picky and detail orientated about the stuff I eat, I don't want to go to restaurants and make sure it's fine and then while shopping go through the details of every food item that I buy. It's... just not a time investment I'm really into.
2. When I cook I want to be able to try everything, I still do make vegetarian/vegan dishes (and I will happily try out those weird vegan-meats to see what they're like) but I want to check out other things. Also it's weird, but I actually like trimming fat off of meat, I realize that's probably bad, but I like it.

If I lived in a more Asian country where vegetarianism were easier, I'd do it no problem but I live where I live.

I never really bothered with the whole "vitamin" argument, it's only relevant when there's a massive deficiency and overdosing on them is a much more real problem.


I'm not a vegetarian because I like the taste of meat, plus it's more practical than limiting myself to something. Plus it adds more variety to a diet which seems far healthier than just doing vegetables.
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LinkPizza
12/30/17 3:12:45 PM
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Maximothelad posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
because people are whackjobs

This times 1000! At least it's better than being a "vegan" hahaa

This is what I came to say. Haha

Mead posted...
Vegetarians seem really smart to me. I mean they dont eat meat for their health which is probably smart, but theyre smart enough to know that cheese is never worth giving up.

This is why I'd choose Vegetarianism or veganism. Though I would NEVER choose either if I don't have to.
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shadowsword87
12/30/17 3:14:07 PM
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Zeus posted...
I'm not a vegetarian because I like the taste of meat, plus it's more practical than limiting myself to something.


See, I'm not 100% sure that's a good argument. Meat is naturally tasty because it hits everything humans want (salt, fat, and other stuff) and humans have evolved to want to eat as much meat as possible (due to scarcity of it). While vegetables are built to not be tasty to other things.
It feels... sort of wrong/defeatist/linear (I am not sure on the word) to go, "whelp, I guess I'm built to do a thing, so time to go do it".

I'm not entirely sure I have the right thoughts or correct words behind this.
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LinkPizza
12/30/17 3:17:43 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Zeus posted...
I'm not a vegetarian because I like the taste of meat, plus it's more practical than limiting myself to something.


See, I'm not 100% sure that's a good argument. Meat is naturally tasty because it hits everything humans want (salt, fat, and other stuff) and humans have evolved to want to eat as much meat as possible (due to scarcity of it). While vegetables are built to not be tasty to other things.
It feels... sort of wrong/defeatist/linear (I am not sure on the word) to go, "whelp, I guess I'm built to do a thing, so time to go do it".

I'm not entirely sure I have the right thoughts or correct words behind this.

I feel I'd rather eat a variety or foods, though. This only a certain small group of them. I don't think having variety is bad.
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shadowsword87
12/30/17 3:21:10 PM
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Oh, I know what I was feeling: vegetarianism a challenge.

Can you fight every natural instincts to eat what's the hardest thing to eat while not eating the easiest thing to eat? While making it as tasty as possible.
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LinkPizza
12/30/17 3:23:21 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Oh, I know what I was feeling: vegetarianism a challenge.

Can you fight every natural instincts to eat what's the hardest thing to eat while not eating the easiest thing to eat? While making it as tasty as possible.

It probably is pretty challenging for some people.
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shadowsword87
12/30/17 3:24:45 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
It probably is pretty challenging for some people.


See, being a dick about someone's perfectly reasonable life choice is totally how to get people to convert to your side.
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LinkPizza
12/30/17 3:27:13 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
It probably is pretty challenging for some people.


See, being a dick about someone's perfectly reasonable life choice is totally how to get people to convert to your side.

Wait. Are you saying I'm a dick? If so, how? All I said is it's probably challenging for some. And not in an insulting way.
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shadowsword87
12/30/17 3:28:11 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Wait. Are you saying I'm a dick? If so, how? All I said is it's probably challenging for some. And not in an insulting way.


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LinkPizza
12/30/17 3:30:56 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Wait. Are you saying I'm a dick? If so, how? All I said is it's probably challenging for some. And not in an insulting way.


Ah, sorry. I for some reason I think you were calling people (mentally) challenged.

Not at all. I just know some people really like meat. I know I couldn't do it.
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slacker03150
12/30/17 4:00:38 PM
#42:


SpaceBear_ posted...
A woman in my restaurant tonight said she couldn't eat gluten. I told her the chips (fries) were not gluten-free and she's like "I love chips though so it doesn't matter

To be fair my aunt can't eat gluten, (Among 100 other things) Sometimes she cheats for something delicious on a special occasion and deals with the fallout the next day. Being gluten intolerant doesn't have to mean you are going to swell up and die if you eat a sandwich.
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Zeus
12/30/17 5:12:24 PM
#43:


shadowsword87 posted...
Zeus posted...
I'm not a vegetarian because I like the taste of meat, plus it's more practical than limiting myself to something.


See, I'm not 100% sure that's a good argument. Meat is naturally tasty because it hits everything humans want (salt, fat, and other stuff) and humans have evolved to want to eat as much meat as possible (due to scarcity of it). While vegetables are built to not be tasty to other things.
It feels... sort of wrong/defeatist/linear (I am not sure on the word) to go, "whelp, I guess I'm built to do a thing, so time to go do it".

I'm not entirely sure I have the right thoughts or correct words behind this.


Did you mean to quote a different part of my post? Because neither thing you mention really address either of the things quoted. After all, I wasn't arguing that people should eat something because it tastes good or because the brain is hardwired to seek that kind of food out, but merely that I like the taste. Then, for the second part, your previous post seems to appreciate the practicality of an omnivorous diet.
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Doctor Foxx
12/30/17 5:57:25 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
Zeus posted...
I'm not a vegetarian because I like the taste of meat, plus it's more practical than limiting myself to something.


See, I'm not 100% sure that's a good argument. Meat is naturally tasty because it hits everything humans want (salt, fat, and other stuff) and humans have evolved to want to eat as much meat as possible (due to scarcity of it). While vegetables are built to not be tasty to other things.
It feels... sort of wrong/defeatist/linear (I am not sure on the word) to go, "whelp, I guess I'm built to do a thing, so time to go do it".

I'm not entirely sure I have the right thoughts or correct words behind this.

I feel I'd rather eat a variety or foods, though. This only a certain small group of them. I don't think having variety is bad.

But you have variety. You're excluding at most only a few ingredients (types of animal carcasses). And as a result you're probably adding many more kinds of food to your diet to round out your meals. Most people eating veg eat a much greater variety of food than people eating meat.

shadowsword87 posted...
Zeus posted...
I'm not a vegetarian because I like the taste of meat, plus it's more practical than limiting myself to something.


See, I'm not 100% sure that's a good argument. Meat is naturally tasty because it hits everything humans want (salt, fat, and other stuff) and humans have evolved to want to eat as much meat as possible (due to scarcity of it). While vegetables are built to not be tasty to other things.
It feels... sort of wrong/defeatist/linear (I am not sure on the word) to go, "whelp, I guess I'm built to do a thing, so time to go do it".

I'm not entirely sure I have the right thoughts or correct words behind this.

Chocolate cake tastes good but I'm not eating it every day. The tastes good argument is silly. So many things taste good that are terrible for you and most people know better than to eat them often. Not meat and cheese though...
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LinkPizza
12/30/17 6:11:10 PM
#45:


Doctor Foxx posted...
LinkPizza posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
Zeus posted...
I'm not a vegetarian because I like the taste of meat, plus it's more practical than limiting myself to something.


See, I'm not 100% sure that's a good argument. Meat is naturally tasty because it hits everything humans want (salt, fat, and other stuff) and humans have evolved to want to eat as much meat as possible (due to scarcity of it). While vegetables are built to not be tasty to other things.
It feels... sort of wrong/defeatist/linear (I am not sure on the word) to go, "whelp, I guess I'm built to do a thing, so time to go do it".

I'm not entirely sure I have the right thoughts or correct words behind this.

I feel I'd rather eat a variety or foods, though. This only a certain small group of them. I don't think having variety is bad.

But you have variety. You're excluding at most only a few ingredients (types of animal carcasses). And as a result you're probably adding many more kinds of food to your diet to round out your meals. Most people eating veg eat a much greater variety of food than people eating meat.

shadowsword87 posted...
Zeus posted...
I'm not a vegetarian because I like the taste of meat, plus it's more practical than limiting myself to something.


See, I'm not 100% sure that's a good argument. Meat is naturally tasty because it hits everything humans want (salt, fat, and other stuff) and humans have evolved to want to eat as much meat as possible (due to scarcity of it). While vegetables are built to not be tasty to other things.
It feels... sort of wrong/defeatist/linear (I am not sure on the word) to go, "whelp, I guess I'm built to do a thing, so time to go do it".

I'm not entirely sure I have the right thoughts or correct words behind this.

Chocolate cake tastes good but I'm not eating it every day. The tastes good argument is silly. So many things taste good that are terrible for you and most people know better than to eat them often. Not meat and cheese though...

As for variety, I get some. I'm only excluded animal meat, but it can be cooked so many way to taste very different. Vegetables and fruits can be cooked a couple ways, but taste to similar for me. And I rather have stuff that taste good. I rather eat food I like and die younger instead of eat foods I don't like and live miserable.
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Doctor Foxx
12/30/17 6:19:04 PM
#46:


LinkPizza posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
LinkPizza posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
Zeus posted...
I'm not a vegetarian because I like the taste of meat, plus it's more practical than limiting myself to something.


See, I'm not 100% sure that's a good argument. Meat is naturally tasty because it hits everything humans want (salt, fat, and other stuff) and humans have evolved to want to eat as much meat as possible (due to scarcity of it). While vegetables are built to not be tasty to other things.
It feels... sort of wrong/defeatist/linear (I am not sure on the word) to go, "whelp, I guess I'm built to do a thing, so time to go do it".

I'm not entirely sure I have the right thoughts or correct words behind this.

I feel I'd rather eat a variety or foods, though. This only a certain small group of them. I don't think having variety is bad.

But you have variety. You're excluding at most only a few ingredients (types of animal carcasses). And as a result you're probably adding many more kinds of food to your diet to round out your meals. Most people eating veg eat a much greater variety of food than people eating meat.

shadowsword87 posted...
Zeus posted...
I'm not a vegetarian because I like the taste of meat, plus it's more practical than limiting myself to something.


See, I'm not 100% sure that's a good argument. Meat is naturally tasty because it hits everything humans want (salt, fat, and other stuff) and humans have evolved to want to eat as much meat as possible (due to scarcity of it). While vegetables are built to not be tasty to other things.
It feels... sort of wrong/defeatist/linear (I am not sure on the word) to go, "whelp, I guess I'm built to do a thing, so time to go do it".

I'm not entirely sure I have the right thoughts or correct words behind this.

Chocolate cake tastes good but I'm not eating it every day. The tastes good argument is silly. So many things taste good that are terrible for you and most people know better than to eat them often. Not meat and cheese though...

As for variety, I get some. I'm only excluded animal meat, but it can be cooked so many way to taste very different. Vegetables and fruits can be cooked a couple ways, but taste to similar for me. And I rather have stuff that taste good. I rather eat food I like and die younger instead of eat foods I don't like and live miserable.

I disagree on the limited ways to prepare plants in different tasting ways thing but I've got a lot more experience with cooking them at this point.

They taste good to me and I don't feel like I'm missing out by passing on the meat. Not everyone will agree. Does meat taste good? Sure it can. Does it taste so good that it justifies killing an animal and risking health issues? Not for me. That's personal preference.
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12/30/17 6:28:16 PM
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Chocolate cake tastes good but I'm not eating it every day. The tastes good argument is silly. So many things taste good that are terrible for you and most people know better than to eat them often. Not meat and cheese though...


You call a non-existent argument silly, but then go on to immediately make an argument comparing cake to meat >_>

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and risking health issues?


Literally anything you eat carries the risk of health issues. And, if you eat nothing at all, you die.
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12/30/17 6:32:32 PM
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meat tastes good, veggies don't. idc if its less healthy, exercise helps with that.
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12/30/17 6:38:16 PM
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You call a non-existent argument silly, but then go on to immediately make an argument comparing cake to meat >_>

Meat is not that healthy, particularly in the portions people consume it in. What else would you like? Butter? Keto people claim that's healthy.

There's a lot of very delicious food out there, but if you eat to satisfy your tastes with no regards to health, that's a terrible recipe

Zeus posted...
Literally anything you eat carries the risk of health issues. And, if you eat nothing at all, you die.

Yeah but most foods aren't a group 1 carcinogens like processed meats, or group 2A for red meats. I can't find any other foods on that list. Probably because no one would be daft enough to sell known carcinogens to eat.

Alcohol might be the only other consumable on that list.
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12/30/17 6:59:29 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Meat is not that healthy, particularly in the portions people consume it in. What else would you like? Butter? Keto people claim that's healthy.


idk, the Atkins diet seems to work for people. Plus a fish-heavy Mediterranean diet is often recommended. Basically what you're suggesting would be like saying eating vegetables is bad because people might eat too many potatoes or something. Plus you can be a vegan and go heavy on carbs which are generally worse than meat.

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Alcohol might be the only other consumable on that list.


Oh right, that's also vegetarian-friendly isn't it? =p
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