Board 8 > Save My Favourite Final Fantasy Characters Reruns: STATS & Discussion 1

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Relm
01/01/18 3:16:27 PM
#1:


Current Round: http://gmun.moe/smfffc
Current Tally: http://gmun.moe/b8/savemython/tally.php

Well I said it'd start in the new year so enjoy your unannounced chaos

... although perhaps I wouldn't have had those typos if I got to work on this sooner than 2am last night
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Relm
01/01/18 4:33:09 PM
#2:


#hey bot#
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Mothra
01/01/18 5:02:13 PM
#3:


novel I'm here!
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Gatarix
01/01/18 6:20:50 PM
#4:


how do these work? like I remember talk about basing them off users' top 50 ff characters but I dunno if you decided on that or what
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Robazoid
01/01/18 6:21:52 PM
#5:


I think we're re-running all the previous SMFFFCs in order. Leonhart will run a favorite character SMFFFC himself at some point, or at least that was the plan when it was last mentioned. Favorite character ones beyond that are still up in the air I think
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Gatarix
01/01/18 6:22:37 PM
#6:


oh okay
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GuessMyUserName
01/01/18 7:55:10 PM
#7:


yeah what roba said

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Save_My_Favorite_Final_Fantasy_Characters_I

judging by the current speed I think we'll get 2 more 1 safe 1 save rounds and even that's probably pushing it but hey midnight rounds are slower so maybe not

either way I just wanted to light a fire under the early rounds to get this started
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GuessMyUserName
01/02/18 1:48:52 AM
#8:


#bump#
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GuessMyUserName
01/02/18 7:14:41 PM
#9:


oh I can do a FUN FACTS

SMFFFC I boots:

Tellah
Wakka
Amarant
Rinoa
Yang

I-2 "boots":

Cecil
Wakka
Tidus
Tellah
Yang


bold = same boots
italics = same rank
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GuessMyUserName
01/02/18 7:58:40 PM
#10:


Just gonna move this discussion over here since we have the whole I-2 contest to decide on it.

Boot Management

The main choice was between running the contests as a clone of the original run, or using I-2 boots, basically coming down to these options:

Reruns: Duplicate runs of each contest. No changes.

Reboot Replacement: I-2 boots replace I-1 boot counterparts. ie. Tidus doesn't return until Amarant returned in V-1.

Reboot Redemption: Run II-2 using I-2 boots, with an additional "redemption" slot or two decided by nominating from a pool of booted contestants (could be booted of either contest?)
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GuessMyUserName
01/02/18 8:01:40 PM
#11:


Also about the redemption rules, I know we basically ruled out the replacement option because it should've been decided beforehand - but I don't think it would be too unfair if we use the Redemption Round right away since Cecil and Tidus (the only characters that'd be affected) would have an opportunity to still come back when II-2 starts.
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PrinceKaro
01/02/18 8:06:41 PM
#12:


-remove all hardbooted characters from the next contest
-any empty slots are filled by the highest finishing characters from the previous contest that were not in the original
-characters return from their boot in the contest after next (assuming they were in the original version)

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mnkboy907
01/02/18 8:09:04 PM
#13:


GuessMyUserName posted...
Reboot Redemption: Run II-2 using I-2 boots, with an additional "redemption" slot or two decided by nominating from a pool of booted contestants (could be booted of either contest?)

Well I like the idea of keeping new timeline boots through the contests and running nominations to replace returning booted characters, but I dunno about actually increasing the roster count earlier to do extra nominations. Like if the first time a booted character returning didn't originally happen until V, then I'm fine with waiting until V-2 to nominate in someone booted from I-2, II-2, or III-2.
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GuessMyUserName
01/02/18 8:15:55 PM
#14:


We could just re-nom all newcomers, but I don't that's really fair since we could lose out on characters introduced by a random contest. I was thinking only 1 slot wouldn't be a big deal for rounds with 5-boots, and then maybe 2 slots when there's 10-boots, an extra day or two just didn't seem like a big deal to me. Basically what Tales of Vesperia PS3 is to Tales of Vesperia 360.

but yeah we have til I-2 finishes to decide
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mnkboy907
01/02/18 8:18:57 PM
#15:


Oh yeah, absolutely keep new character debuts as they're supposed to be.
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Gatarix
01/03/18 12:06:18 PM
#16:


GuessMyUserName posted...
Reboot Replacement: I-2 boots replace I-1 boot counterparts. ie. Tidus doesn't return until Amarant returned in V-1.

mnkboy907 posted...
Oh yeah, absolutely keep new character debuts as they're supposed to be.

both of these imo

new boots for a new timeline, but keep the canon newcomers
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GuessMyUserName
01/03/18 12:23:33 PM
#17:


Just gonna repost mnk's original idea post

mnkboy907 posted...
We could just do brief nomination periods, but with the pool of possible nominations limited to characters who had already been in and were booted. And only do it to replace spots in contests where booted characters re-entered the field.

I'm not sure when the first time a booted character came back, but just as an example, when Amarant originally came back in V, we'd just use that slot as a chance to nom back in one of any of the characters that had been booted in the new timeline.


So that's Redemption Rules but instead of using an extra slot it just replaces returner characters only, leaving newcomers intact.

Thinking about it again I actually think that's the only way to do it, extra slot redemption would presume that all contestants are the same as their SMFFFC-1 counterpart field... otherwise the # of contestants wouldn't match up. I dunno, hard to actually thinking about how it plays out.
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Gatarix
01/03/18 4:02:35 PM
#18:


mnk's idea is cool too

gotta preserve the number of contestants
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CelesMyUserName
01/03/18 10:00:34 PM
#19:


heads-up, 1 save/hour starting Day 21
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01/05/18 2:04:20 AM
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kateee
01/05/18 2:29:06 AM
#21:


i don't want any boots at all personally.

24/7 rounds is just a different environment and you can't look out for a character during those rounds the same way you could when the contest wasn't automated. the whole appeal of 24/7 rounds for me was that people didn't have to stress as much if the character you were supporting went out because hey the contest is always going so that's just how it is. now you're just constantly checking and you ARE going to miss rounds.

i see nomination topics as momentum killers so i don't want that either.

i don't want to see it like we're creating one alternate timeline where the boots continue. more like creating 19 different timelines where all the boring stuff like noms has been taken care of and just get to the saving part.
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LiquidOshawott
01/05/18 2:34:59 PM
#22:


Newcomers for II-2

Lulu
Kuja
Garnet Til Alexandros XVII
Laguna Loire
Shadow
Kefka Palazzo
Golbez
Gilgamesh
Irvine Kinneas
Barret Wallace
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pjbasis
01/05/18 2:45:35 PM
#23:


I vote for straight clones myself.

Anything else sounds too complicated for a super casual project.
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Steiner
01/05/18 2:47:49 PM
#24:


straight clones
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mnkboy907
01/05/18 2:47:57 PM
#25:


When I said brief nom periods, I was thinking of just like 24 hours. Besides I imagine it would actually be nice to have a small break in between contests.
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LiquidOshawott
01/05/18 2:48:16 PM
#26:


Straight clones is fine tbh

as much as I would love for Alternate Universe #1 In Stats Amarant it does create some fun what if moments based on the field
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Steiner
01/05/18 2:58:09 PM
#27:


mnkboy907 posted...
I was thinking of just like 24 hours


just?!
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mnkboy907
01/05/18 2:59:36 PM
#28:


yes
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GuessMyUserName
01/05/18 3:00:37 PM
#29:


mnkboy907 posted...
When I said brief nom periods, I was thinking of just like 24 hours. Besides I imagine it would actually be nice to have a small break in between contests.

Yeah this was the idea

Although I was alternatively thinking of instead of a "nom period" it could just be a preliminary round. What with the contestants available all being predetermined already.
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mnkboy907
01/05/18 3:03:03 PM
#30:


Yeah that would work too. And it could even be set up for the bot to run.
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GuessMyUserName
01/05/18 3:04:37 PM
#31:


I didn't even think about how easier that makes for me!
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Steiner
01/05/18 5:02:54 PM
#32:


this is the most active posts i've had on the board since the contest
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VeryInsane
01/05/18 5:06:45 PM
#33:


Man theres like 7 Save Mys running right now

I dunno if we could have any more
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GuessMyUserName
01/05/18 9:07:10 PM
#34:


I didn't even realize we're in the Top 10

Edgar Roni Figaro
Celes Chere
Cloud Strife
Yuffie Kisaragi
Quistis Trepe
Squall Leonhart
Selphie Tilmitt
Vivi Ornitier
Rikku
Auron

... honestly this could be the best Top 10 I've ever seen
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GuessMyUserName
01/05/18 9:08:23 PM
#35:


also congrats to FF8 for having the most contestants in the top 10 with 3

... having only lost 1 this whole contest, Rinoa
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ChampionCloud
01/05/18 9:16:20 PM
#36:


kateee posted...
i don't want any boots at all personally.

24/7 rounds is just a different environment and you can't look out for a character during those rounds the same way you could when the contest wasn't automated. the whole appeal of 24/7 rounds for me was that people didn't have to stress as much if the character you were supporting went out because hey the contest is always going so that's just how it is. now you're just constantly checking and you ARE going to miss rounds.

i see nomination topics as momentum killers so i don't want that either.

i don't want to see it like we're creating one alternate timeline where the boots continue. more like creating 19 different timelines where all the boring stuff like noms has been taken care of and just get to the saving part.


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FFDragon
01/05/18 9:17:36 PM
#37:


no boots, no point imo

why bother supporting someone if you know they'll be booted no matter what because OG timeline said so

new timeline, new boots
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GuessMyUserName
01/05/18 9:19:04 PM
#38:


high pressure is one of the benefits of 24/7 chaos tbqh
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mnkboy907
01/05/18 9:19:05 PM
#39:


ChampionCloud posted...
kateee posted...
i don't want any boots at all personally.

24/7 rounds is just a different environment and you can't look out for a character during those rounds the same way you could when the contest wasn't automated. the whole appeal of 24/7 rounds for me was that people didn't have to stress as much if the character you were supporting went out because hey the contest is always going so that's just how it is. now you're just constantly checking and you ARE going to miss rounds.

i see nomination topics as momentum killers so i don't want that either.

i don't want to see it like we're creating one alternate timeline where the boots continue. more like creating 19 different timelines where all the boring stuff like noms has been taken care of and just get to the saving part.


Definitely no nominauon period.

And I agree with Kate here.

Boots put too much pressure on us for what should be a rip roaring good time.

There's boots regardless. It's just a matter of whether people have control over them or not.
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ChampionCloud
01/05/18 9:20:17 PM
#40:


FFDragon posted...
no boots, no point imo

why bother supporting someone if you know they'll be booted no matter what because OG timeline said so

new timeline, new boots


FINE....

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FFDragon
01/05/18 9:21:02 PM
#41:


if it is going to be a zzzzzz straight recontesting I'll probably bounce after this one

and I only showed up halfway into this one anyway
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ChampionCloud
01/05/18 9:22:12 PM
#42:


FFDragon posted...
if it is going to be a zzzzzz straight recontesting I'll probably bounce after this one

and I only showed up halfway into this one anyway


He makes a fair point.

We don't wanna lose FFD...

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FFDragon
01/05/18 9:24:14 PM
#43:


I mean, losing me shouldn't be the tipping point. I'm just making it known I think it's boring that way.
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VeryInsane
01/05/18 9:25:34 PM
#44:


I kinda would think it funny if someone won only to be hardbooted anyway though tbh

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GuessMyUserName
01/05/18 9:26:01 PM
#45:


Well things'll be final by Top 5, but so far lookin' like New Boots, Returners Preliminary Round'd

best part of new contest is new STATS, clone contests kinda get in the way of true STATS
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Drakeryn
01/05/18 10:29:24 PM
#46:


FFDragon posted...
no boots, no point imo

why bother supporting someone if you know they'll be booted no matter what because OG timeline said so

new timeline, new boots

seconded

(also I am not going to stress regardless, if a guy I like gets booted overnight then oh well I like a lot of characters)
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GuessMyUserName
01/05/18 10:30:23 PM
#47:


I mean if someone gets booted you like, we've still got almost 20 contests to get 'em back in
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FFDragon
01/05/18 10:33:17 PM
#48:


I mean, you practically have to assume that you're going to lose things due to sleep. Boots or not.

Only a bot can be awake 24/7!
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GuessMyUserName
01/06/18 5:55:09 PM
#49:


your smfffc I-2 top 5

Celes Chere (Final Fantasy VI)
Yuffie Kisaragi (Final Fantasy VII)
Selphie Tilmitt (Final Fantasy VIII)
Vivi Ornitier (Final Fantasy IX)
Rikku (Final Fantasy X)

1 rep for each FF 6-10 is pretty neat

also Vivi's Harem
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mnkboy907
01/06/18 7:04:19 PM
#50:


So how are the finals going to work for these?
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