Current Events > Going to start DARKEST DUNGEON

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Any tips for a beginner, spoiler free?
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nah, go in blind and love it
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Party composition is important. Get a B and C team fast, and until you're good enough always pack extra food and a healer.

When you look at skills/classes what position from 1-4 they're best at is represented by glowing orange orbs. Keep that in mind -- eg cleric doesn't go in front.

Don't grind one area too much and ignore the boss or they become only yellow missions after a while. Try to even yourself out between all four starting areas.

Using crimson court? Turn it off, but keep estate upgrades on.
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prettyprincess posted...

nah, go in blind and love it

This is what I did. All I'll say is if you get the crimson blood DLC you're in for one hell of an early adventure.
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prettyprincess posted...

nah, go in blind and love it

Yeah this, you can look up strats and shit later after your bumhole is sore
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kill the backline first

that is the only strategy you need to understand starting out. backline enemies typically do 'stress' damage which is much harder to recover from
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Don't get too invested in any one hero. They get too messed up with bad traits or stress? Ditch them and get more

Upgrade the coach to provide 4 heroes per week ASAP so you can facilitate step 1

Learn to do short dark runs using steps 1and 2
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HOLY SHIT GUYS.

I spent all that gold on removing Kleptomaniac from Reynauld in the Sanitarium.

Next time I take him out on a mission?

He finishes the mission with like 30 Stress. He gets a Quirk after the mission.

It's Kleptomaniac.
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10/10 game
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Ilishe posted...

HOLY SHIT GUYS.

I spent all that gold on removing Kleptomaniac from Reynauld in the Sanitarium.

Next time I take him out on a mission?

He finishes the mission with like 30 Stress. He gets a Quirk after the mission.

It's Kleptomaniac.

lmao.
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I can't believe the same quirk can return like that wtf
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it's bad luck

in general removing negative traits is not worth it early game. just deal with the hit

locking positive traits--especially the ones that give a huge initiative boost for round one, which are the game's absolute BEST traits--is worth the cost.

basically focus your investment in leveling skills and gear, not keeping your people maximally rational
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@Darkman124

One thing

I can't seem to upgrade weapons at the blacksmith. Says I need level 1 weaponsmith, but level 2 seems to be the first upgrade.
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you have to upgrade the building and also level the character
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Stress is more important than HP.

If you can, always focus on killing the Stress dealers first.
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DoGCyN posted...

Stress is more important than HP.

If you can, always focus on killing the Stress dealers first.

^to be clear, stress dealers = backline

characters who can hit backline and often kill in 1 shot:

crusader in position 3
hellion in position 1
highwayman (don't)
grave robber in ranks 3/4
bounty hunter in ranks 1-3
arbalest in ranks 3/4
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Are you saying the Highwayman isn't good? He's been pretty decent in my game
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that is what i am saying yes.
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Alright, will keep it in mind
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Ilishe posted...

Are you saying the Highwayman isn't good? He's been pretty decent in my game

Unless they got nerfed, highwaymen were some of the best units I used. Having 2 in the front 2 spots constantly using point blank shot is incredibly strong, and was one of the first set of units I used to defeat the bandits with.
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DoGCyN posted...

Unless they got nerfed, highwaymen were some of the best units I used. Having 2 in the front 2 spots constantly using point blank shot is incredibly strong, and was one of the first set of units I used to defeat the bandits with.

defeating frontline is not very important

graverobbers run circles around highwaymen for every job

in a game of specialists they're the jack of all trades
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Darkman124 posted...

DoGCyN posted...

Unless they got nerfed, highwaymen were some of the best units I used. Having 2 in the front 2 spots constantly using point blank shot is incredibly strong, and was one of the first set of units I used to defeat the bandits with.

defeating frontline is not very important

graverobbers run circles around highwaymen for every job

in a game of specialists they're the jack of all trades

Okay fair point. They were super useful for me late game and for bandits, but for stress control I can admit they're shitty af.
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I like using them in a lineup with Hellion, Crusader and Plague Doctor. So much AOE damage. >_>
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not a fan of aoe damage myself

my favorite non-boss team is graverobber (4) crusader (3) man at arms (2) hellion (1)

all with on guard, crusader also with some +speed gear

lunge, holy lance, rampart, yawp

now you have 2 dead enemies and 1-2 stunned enemies of the frontline only variety

if anything goes wrong (miss, etc) the hellion can if it bleeds/iron swan and kill a backliner too

great opportunity to use crusader's healing skills to restore the group's HP from there

my boss team is arbalest(4) houndmaster (3) bounty hunter (2) hellion(1)

hellion is definitely MVP of darkest dungeon

note also that both these teams have someone who can prevent night-time ambush. this is not optional imo
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Darkman124 posted...

that is what i am saying yes.

What are you talking about? highway man is great.
Give him point blank shot and the riposte move and he slays.
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A5modeu5 posted...

Darkman124 posted...

that is what i am saying yes.

What are you talking about? highway man is great.
Give him point blank shot and the riposte move and he slays.

point blank shot tends to target enemies that have PROT or high HP and low damage

the most important turn in darkest dungeon is the first and he has no moves that can kill a backline enemy before they take theirs

in theory it'd be ok if you were moving a backliner to the front

but in practice doing that takes an action that could instead be spent killing the backliner and another that could be spent killing a different backliner
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I've been meaning to play this game for a while. Plan to pick up Crimson Court before the sale ends.

I wonder if I should play with Crimson Court on or not for a first playthrough.
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i think you can enable the content at any time

its rough to have it active during first playthru
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When do enemies get stronger?
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The more missions you complete/fail it raises the rank of the enemies, if I remember correctly.
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when you do yellow or red level missions instead of green
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Disagree with Darkman about Highwaymen. They're the game's pure crit MACHINES, and that makes them a reliable source of damage AND free stress reduction. Give them some gun boosting gear and use the camp skill Clean Guns to go on a murder spree
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fire_bolt posted...

They're the game's pure crit MACHINES

grave robbers do everything highwaymen do significantly better than highwaymen do it.

including crits.

fire_bolt posted...

camp skill

what broke highwaymen was making camp skills good for only 4 battles

they are now best for buffing pre-boss--in which case you want the arbalests' buffs--or restoring severe injuries/stressouts.
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Still disagree. Highwaymen have class specific trinkets that are far superior to any other crit trinket in the game. Graverobbers are an overall better role, but I usually use one of each for non-boss missions. Graverobber camp skills are also underwhelming
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HwM's class specific trinkets still doesn't bring his damage to lines 2-4 even remotely close to GR. Higher vs line 1, yes.

That's the issue: he's good at destroying the one position you don't want to destroy quickly. And poor at the rest.

Honestly, what we're talking about here is stress prevention (through alpha strike) vs stress mitigation through crits.

My stress mitigation mechanism is stun-delaying and crusader stress heals. Works better than crits, far more reliable.
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