Poll of the Day > Remember how fun TVTropes was to browse?

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Lokarin
01/02/18 4:34:49 PM
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Before the dark times... before the Emperor
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ZeldaMutant
01/02/18 4:41:58 PM
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Before P5 slaughtered everything.
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Questionmarktarius
01/02/18 4:45:00 PM
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MannerSaurus
01/02/18 4:46:42 PM
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What happened to TVTropes? I remember reading some really amazing things on there about my already favorite anime Cowboy Bebop

*Spike went out with a "bang."
*Spike's name has 5 letters, Faye 4, Jet 3, Ed 2, and Ein is a form of "1" in German.
*Faye got the packages in the wrong order with the video cassette coming early from the tortoise delivery company, and the VCR being late from the hare delivery company (the tortoise winning the race.)
Etc. etc...

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JOExHIGASHI
01/02/18 5:23:23 PM
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nope
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Gamechamp3k
01/02/18 6:04:38 PM
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I miss it real bad. The P5 thing pretty much killed the whole reason I liked the site: it doesn't judge the the media being discussed, and presents all information on it people have felt is worth mentioning in an unbaised fashion. Now they have a small group of individuals with clear bias and a disdain for certain segments of the community actively policing what people are even allowed to acknowledge exists.
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Mead
01/02/18 6:13:29 PM
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what is P5

is that where they have to park if they work for the website
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DarkKirby2500
01/02/18 6:24:07 PM
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Gamechamp3k posted...
I miss it real bad. The P5 thing pretty much killed the whole reason I liked the site: it doesn't judge the the media being discussed, and presents all information on it people have felt is worth mentioning in an unbaised fashion. Now they have a small group of individuals with clear bias and a disdain for certain segments of the community actively policing what people are even allowed to acknowledge exists.

This.
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Gamechamp3k
01/02/18 6:24:16 PM
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Mead posted...
what is P5

is that where they have to park if they work for the website

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/FiveP?from=Administrivia.P5

Basically, they look at hentai and decide if it there are too many boobs for it to be considered art.
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Andromicus
01/02/18 6:29:27 PM
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So wait what changed?
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TigerTycoon
01/02/18 6:31:22 PM
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Andromicus posted...
So wait what changed?

Censorship.
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Gamechamp3k
01/02/18 6:39:01 PM
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Andromicus posted...
So wait what changed?

If something is reported to 5P, they decide whether or not it should remain from the site or be purged, based on whether or not they personally believe its sexuality outweighs its artistic merit. Additionally, anything involving children in sexual situations is blanket banned regardless of artistic merit. At least, that's how they describe it in the rules. There's a lot of weird exceptions, which is natural given the nature by which the decisions are made.
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Mead
01/02/18 6:42:31 PM
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So people are just mad that they cant look at hentai and pedo crap on the site anymore?

What does that even have to do with tropes
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Gamechamp3k
01/02/18 7:02:54 PM
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Mead posted...
So people are just mad that they cant look at hentai and pedo crap on the site anymore?

What does that even have to do with tropes

It's less that they can't look at it and more that they can't acknowledge that it exists.
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Mead
01/02/18 7:05:53 PM
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Yall need some help if youre watching enough of that stuff to recognize tropes
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Andromicus
01/02/18 7:22:50 PM
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I fail to see how that is bad
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ParanoidObsessive
01/02/18 8:32:31 PM
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That site turned to shit the moment they started treating fanfiction as if it mattered in any real way.


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Cacciato
01/02/18 8:36:23 PM
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Gamechamp3k posted...
Andromicus posted...
So wait what changed?

If something is reported to 5P, they decide whether or not it should remain from the site or be purged, based on whether or not they personally believe its sexuality outweighs its artistic merit. Additionally, anything involving children in sexual situations is blanket banned regardless of artistic merit. At least, that's how they describe it in the rules. There's a lot of weird exceptions, which is natural given the nature by which the decisions are made.

Out of morbid curiosity, is there any scenario you can name involving children in sexual situations that actually have artistic merit?
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Mead
01/02/18 8:39:05 PM
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Cacciato posted...
Out of morbid curiosity, is there any scenario you can name involving children in sexual situations that actually have artistic merit?


Honestly Leon: The Professional comes to mind somewhat, but the whole point is that is intentionally disturbing and shows how damaged the girl is

That is more suggestive than overtly sexual though iirc
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TheOrangeMisfit
01/02/18 8:40:35 PM
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I liked browsing the nightmare fuel pages but people went way overboard with it and anything that could remotely frighten a 2 year old would be included.
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kislev
01/02/18 9:16:45 PM
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Mead posted...
Yall need some help if youre watching enough of that stuff to recognize tropes

Andromicus posted...
I fail to see how that is bad


Same here, i still browse the site just fine
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Questionmarktarius
01/02/18 10:26:08 PM
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Cacciato posted...
Out of morbid curiosity, is there any scenario you can name involving children in sexual situations that actually have artistic merit?

Animal House
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EclairReturns
01/02/18 10:39:25 PM
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Cacciato posted...
scenario you can name involving children in sexual situations


Well, I could say that It has child sex scenes, but I really doubt that that would have any artistic merit of any sort. >_>
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gguirao
01/03/18 12:28:16 AM
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What do you mean "was"? I've been browsing it on a daily basis for a couple years and have never lost interest.
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Kungfu Kenobi
01/03/18 1:46:55 PM
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I used to use TV tropes as a kind of recommendation guide, but they removed all the examples from the things I like because the things I like are disgusting and objectionable.
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Broken_Zeus
01/03/18 2:02:54 PM
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It's still fun to browse, even with whatever censorship it now has.
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Questionmarktarius
01/03/18 2:19:47 PM
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Broken_Zeus posted...
It's still fun to browse, even with whatever censorship it now has.

If it gets too "safe", maybe the All The Tropes fork will gain some traction.
http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/All_The_Tropes:Why_Fork_TV_Tropes
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Gamechamp3k
01/04/18 3:37:55 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Broken_Zeus posted...
It's still fun to browse, even with whatever censorship it now has.

If it gets too "safe", maybe the All The Tropes fork will gain some traction.
http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/All_The_Tropes:Why_Fork_TV_Tropes

I personally prefer this other site: https://allthetropes.org

Cacciato posted...
Gamechamp3k posted...
Andromicus posted...
So wait what changed?

If something is reported to 5P, they decide whether or not it should remain from the site or be purged, based on whether or not they personally believe its sexuality outweighs its artistic merit. Additionally, anything involving children in sexual situations is blanket banned regardless of artistic merit. At least, that's how they describe it in the rules. There's a lot of weird exceptions, which is natural given the nature by which the decisions are made.

Out of morbid curiosity, is there any scenario you can name involving children in sexual situations that actually have artistic merit?

The short answer is I believe there's artistic merit in representing absolutely any possible scenario. Which is part of why I'm strongly against the P5 thing. It implies that some works are inherently more or less art than others, and that these people get to judge which works are the most art.
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