Current Events > Trump attacks protections for immigrants from "shithole countries"

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Bullet_Wing posted...

not__shawn__z posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Dude wtf

Are you wtfing me or wtfing the guy who is trying to claim African immigrants are the smartest ones. An argument which, I have never heard before and I honestly don't think I'll hear again, lol

He was wtfing you, because he's taken painstakingly difficult care to separate racism from Trump supporters in his arguments, then you come in with an ignorant bullshit white nationalist at best statement that undermines his efforts.

CrimsonRage posted...

@not__shawn__z has yet to show a source saying Haitians have a large problem assimilating.

Is it safe to assume he pulled that from his ass and just assumes they're problematic because to him "Haitians = black people" and he doesn't seem to keen on black people?

Wow this is racist. Are you projecting your personal feelings onto me? This guy is a racist

And yea I'm not going to be able to find a source that says that, honestly. Just like I can't find a source that would blast the current Muslim refugee epidemic in Europe

And Haitians are nowhere near as bad as those guys, either. I'd actually say Haitians probably have the least problems out of all these countries
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Ah more she said he said. The pinnacle of journalism.
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What's funny is that the people who support him would get butthurt if the prime minister of Norway called the U.S. a shithole.
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not__shawn__z posted...

And yea I'm not going to be able to find a source that says that, honestly. Just like I can't find a source that would blast the current Muslim refugee epidemic in Europe

And Haitians are nowhere near as bad as those guys, either. I'd actually say Haitians probably have the least problems out of all these countries

So you can't / won't provide sources for your arguments yet claim you are arguing objectively?
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GuyCarlPeterson posted...

Ah more she said he said. The pinnacle of journalism.

The administration is not denying he said this. "She said he said" suggests that there is disagreement, when there isn't.
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CrimsonRage posted...

Metro2 posted...

He then suggested that the United States should instead bring more people from countries like Norway

Norway is a paradise compared to the US. Why would Norwegians lower their livings standards by moving?

Trump: "We need more people from Norway to come to America!"
Norwegians: "Why would we wanna live in that shithole?"

America isnt a shithole...and if it is why are you still here
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MC_BatCommander posted...

not__shawn__z posted...

And yea I'm not going to be able to find a source that says that, honestly. Just like I can't find a source that would blast the current Muslim refugee epidemic in Europe

And Haitians are nowhere near as bad as those guys, either. I'd actually say Haitians probably have the least problems out of all these countries

So you can't / won't provide sources for your arguments yet claim you are arguing objectively?

Yes. If you need sources telling you that a place like Africa is anything but a shithole, nothing I can show you will tell convince you otherwise
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KingCrabCake posted...

America isnt a shithole...and if it is why are you still here

I want to improve it.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

What's funny is that the people who support him would get butthurt if the prime minister of Norway called the U.S. a shithole.

Ya because

1. Its our country
2. Our country isnt a shithole

Im sure you can't grasp those reasons...but just thought id give you a hand
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Are thousands of Americans trying to immigrate to Norway or something??
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hockeybub89 posted...

gamer167 posted...

Fix your own country, dont run off to one thats already better.

"Only move if you have no reason to move!"

Does that apply within countries too though? I always hear about how people in America should move if they don't like their city or state. Aren't they just quitters? Also, doesn't this mean we shouldn't tell people who complain about America to get out?

No, because theyre already Americans.

not__shawn__z posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

not__shawn__z posted...

And yea I'm not going to be able to find a source that says that, honestly. Just like I can't find a source that would blast the current Muslim refugee epidemic in Europe

And Haitians are nowhere near as bad as those guys, either. I'd actually say Haitians probably have the least problems out of all these countries

So you can't / won't provide sources for your arguments yet claim you are arguing objectively?

Yes. If you need sources telling you that a place like Africa is anything but a shithole, nothing I can show you will tell convince you otherwise

That is not what I asked for a source on.
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Antifar posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

America isnt a shithole...and if it is why are you still here

I want to improve it.

Youre doing a horrible job, give up and leave.

not__shawn__z posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

not__shawn__z posted...

And yea I'm not going to be able to find a source that says that, honestly. Just like I can't find a source that would blast the current Muslim refugee epidemic in Europe

And Haitians are nowhere near as bad as those guys, either. I'd actually say Haitians probably have the least problems out of all these countries

So you can't / won't provide sources for your arguments yet claim you are arguing objectively?

Yes. If you need sources telling you that a place like Africa is anything but a shithole, nothing I can show you will tell convince you otherwise

So let me get this right. You're saying ALL of Africa is a shit all. ALL of it?
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KingCrabCake posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

What's funny is that the people who support him would get butthurt if the prime minister of Norway called the U.S. a shithole.

Ya because

1. Its our country
2. Our country isnt a shithole

Im sure you can't grasp those reasons...but just thought id give you a hand

People from countries doing a lot better than us would probably think we're a shithole by comparison.
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Antifar posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

America isnt a shithole...and if it is why are you still here

I want to improve it.

Thats good. Still isnt shithole
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Irony posted...

Bullet_Wing posted...

Irony posted...

Prove the reason they are coming here is for a better life.

Why else would they come here? Our pizza?

To make our country as bad as their's obviously.

You're such a good person. Never change.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

What's funny is that the people who support him would get butthurt if the prime minister of Norway called the U.S. a shithole.

Ya because

1. Its our country
2. Our country isnt a shithole

Im sure you can't grasp those reasons...but just thought id give you a hand

People from countries doing a lot better than us would probably think we're a shithole by comparison.

Theyre not though.
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MC_BatCommander posted...

not__shawn__z posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

not__shawn__z posted...

And yea I'm not going to be able to find a source that says that, honestly. Just like I can't find a source that would blast the current Muslim refugee epidemic in Europe

And Haitians are nowhere near as bad as those guys, either. I'd actually say Haitians probably have the least problems out of all these countries

So you can't / won't provide sources for your arguments yet claim you are arguing objectively?

Yes. If you need sources telling you that a place like Africa is anything but a shithole, nothing I can show you will tell convince you otherwise

That is not what I asked for a source on.

Sorry, but we haven't talked in about 100 posts. I'm sure you'll understand I can't remember everyone I'm talking to. I actually addressed your question to someone else though

youngfossil posted...

So let me get this right. You're saying ALL of Africa is a s*** all. ALL of it?

I'm saying enough of it is a shithole that you are safe to make an statement like "Africa is a shithole" and not have a normal, reasonable person do a double take on it. As if I'm talking about Paris or something
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The only shithole country is Orlais
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not__shawn__z posted...

marthsheretoo posted...

not__shawn__z posted...

marthsheretoo posted...

It is honestly pretty racist to conflate African immigrants with "black people".

No it's not. Black people are of African descent

And modern-day African immigrants are a distinct group that you absolutely cannot lump with all people of their pigmentation.

Unless, you know, you feel like being racist.

Yes I can, lol, stop being sensitive about it. Whites are of European descent. Blacks are of African.

I'm not being sensitive, you're just wrong.

Or do you actually think that taking statistics gathered from the US black population can be applied to the African immigrant population?

Sorry if this question feels repetitive, I'm just trying to wrap my head around the ignorance necessary to hold such a view.
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not__shawn__z posted...

Sorry, but we haven't talked in about 100 posts. I'm sure you'll understand I can't remember everyone I'm talking to. I actually addressed your question to someone else though

We haven't talked for 100 posts because you dodged my request for a source on your claim about Haitian immigrants...
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gamer167 posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

gamer167 posted...

Fix your own country, dont run off to one thats already better.

"Only move if you have no reason to move!"

Does that apply within countries too though? I always hear about how people in America should move if they don't like their city or state. Aren't they just quitters? Also, doesn't this mean we shouldn't tell people who complain about America to get out?

No, because theyre already Americans.

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This is why it was a mistake to crack down on flaming without also coming down harder on trolling.
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MC_BatCommander posted...

not__shawn__z posted...

Sorry, but we haven't talked in about 100 posts. I'm sure you'll understand I can't remember everyone I'm talking to. I actually addressed your question to someone else though

We haven't talked for 100 posts because you dodged my request for a source on your claim about Haitian immigrants...

Oh stop being ridiculous. Do you not see how many people I'm talking to? Lol
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marthsheretoo posted...

I'm not being sensitive, you're just wrong.

Or do you actually think that taking statistics gathered from the US black population can be applied to the African immigrant population?

Sorry if this question feels repetitive, I'm just trying to wrap my head around the ignorance necessary to hold such a view.

Super sensitive, never said that idk why you are, and because you're thinking emotionally. That's why you're so confused
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not__shawn__z posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

not__shawn__z posted...

Sorry, but we haven't talked in about 100 posts. I'm sure you'll understand I can't remember everyone I'm talking to. I actually addressed your question to someone else though

We haven't talked for 100 posts because you dodged my request for a source on your claim about Haitian immigrants...

Oh stop being ridiculous. Do you not see how many people I'm talking to? Lol

Hey you started it. You laid in to me by mocking things like political correctness and "subjective opinion". Either back it up or admit you were wrong.
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Actually, anybody that actually knows what they're talking about knows that Africans typically look down on American blacks when they get here.
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Political correctness is gross. Subjectivity is shit. But I also don't rely on some left leaning institute to provide proof. There is a huge problem with assimilation in Europe right now. But no institute will admit it
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not__shawn__z posted...

Super sensitive, never said that idk why you are, and because you're thinking emotionally. That's why you're so confused

We can strike off "able to discern emotional states through the internet" from your list of talents, then.

Please answer the question in a yes or no statement instead of evading. It's not hard.
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*reads topic*

did i get redirected to stormfront?
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MC_BatCommander posted...

Either back it up or admit you were wrong.

Neither of these things will ever happen

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Actually, anybody that actually knows what they're talking about knows that Africans typically look down on American blacks when they get here.

Not really a bad thing tho
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marthsheretoo posted...

not__shawn__z posted...

Super sensitive, never said that idk why you are, and because you're thinking emotionally. That's why you're so confused

We can strike off "able to discern emotional states through the internet" from your list of talents, then.

Please answer the question in a yes or no statement instead of evading. It's not hard.

It should be quite obvious by now that he has no interest in providing any evidence.
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KingCrabCake posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Actually, anybody that actually knows what they're talking about knows that Africans typically look down on American blacks when they get here.

Not really a bad thing tho

Bluebomber182 posted...

*reads topic*

did i get redirected to stormfront?

Sure seems like it.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Actually, anybody that actually knows what they're talking about knows that Africans typically look down on American blacks when they get here.

Not just Africans.

A lot of black people can't get a break if they leave the west. At least if they don't go somewhere touristy
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What's the problem again? Is he wrong? Or are liberals simply bent out of shape because he called a spade a spade?
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not__shawn__z posted...

Political correctness is gross. Subjectivity is shit. But I also don't rely on some left leaning institute to provide proof. There is a huge problem with assimilation in Europe right now. But no institute will admit it

Of course Europe has an issue with assimilation, they've had massive amounts of immigration in a short amount of time.

That is still not what I asked for. Either provide the source I asked for on your claim regarding Haitian immigrants in America or admit it was a subjective argument you made up.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Actually, anybody that actually knows what they're talking about knows that Africans typically look down on American blacks when they get here.

Not just Africans.

A lot of black people can't get a break if they leave the west. At least if they don't go somewhere touristy

This is also true, although I hear Japan isn't too bad.
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voldothegr8 posted...

What's the problem again? Is he wrong? Or are liberals simply bent out of shape because he called a spade a spade?

He's, uh... He's wrong, chief.
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@RchHomieQuanChi posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Actually, anybody that actually knows what they're talking about knows that Africans typically look down on American blacks when they get here.

Not really a bad thing tho

Bluebomber182 posted...

*reads topic*

did i get redirected to stormfront?

Sure seems like it.

How the fuck is my comment bad? Its not that bad that people from other countries look down on us or black americans....why would it be bad?

Im not expecting u to answer btw
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Bluebomber182 posted...

*reads topic*

did i get redirected to stormfront?

This topic is just disgusting to read through.
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marthsheretoo posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

What's the problem again? Is he wrong? Or are liberals simply bent out of shape because he called a spade a spade?

He's, uh... He's wrong, chief.

How so?
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marthsheretoo posted...

not__shawn__z posted...

Super sensitive, never said that idk why you are, and because you're thinking emotionally. That's why you're so confused

We can strike off "able to discern emotional states through the internet" from your list of talents, then.

Please answer the question in a yes or no statement instead of evading. It's not hard.

Please provide context as I'm talking to a lot of people at once in numerous topics
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https://twitter.com/timkmak/status/951601868387602433
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Antifar posted...

https://twitter.com/timkmak/status/951601868387602433

Did anyone ask her why her parents fled?
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not__shawn__z posted...

marthsheretoo posted...

not__shawn__z posted...

Super sensitive, never said that idk why you are, and because you're thinking emotionally. That's why you're so confused

We can strike off "able to discern emotional states through the internet" from your list of talents, then.

Please answer the question in a yes or no statement instead of evading. It's not hard.

Please provide context as I'm talking to a lot of people at once in numerous topics

If you engaged with people's points the first time they made them, you wouldn't get so lost. There are other ways you could avoid getting lost too, but I think it's against the TOS to talk about that now.

I'll provide the question again for your convenience, and it's not one that requires context to answer.

Do you believe that statistics gathered from the US black population can be applied to the African immigrant population?
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voldothegr8 posted...

marthsheretoo posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

What's the problem again? Is he wrong? Or are liberals simply bent out of shape because he called a spade a spade?

He's, uh... He's wrong, chief.

How so?

Read the thread.
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