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Shadowplay 01/12/18 4:23:40 PM #1:	... Yet many shill for him every chance they get? Are libertarians jokes? --- I make a topic in Final Fantasy 12 to ask if Tifa! They said no Tifa. Hardness gone!-gandob <cite>Shadowplay posted [p:893921564] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>... Yet many shill for him every chance they get? Are libertarians jokes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 01/12/18 4:25:19 PM #2:	yes --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg <cite>metralo posted [p:893921670] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 01/12/18 4:27:07 PM #3:	Probably because his agenda of slashing regulations and not supporting shithole countries at our expense appeals to small government types. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:893921784] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>Probably because his agenda of slashing regulations and not supporting shithole countries at our expense appeals to small government types.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
davyheinz 01/12/18 4:27:55 PM #4:	I have yet to meet a libertarian that knew what they wanted. --- Currently playing: Breath of the Wild, Xenoblade Chronicles, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Super Mario Galaxy, Resident Evil 4 <cite>davyheinz posted [p:893921838] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>I have yet to meet a libertarian that knew what they wanted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 01/12/18 4:28:08 PM #5:	ThePrinceFish posted... Probably because his agenda of slashing regulations and not supporting shithole countries at our expense appeals to small government types. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:893921848] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThePrinceFish posted...</cite> <quote>Probably because his agenda of slashing regulations and not supporting shithole countries at our expense appeals to small government types.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 01/12/18 4:28:56 PM #6:	I used to consider myself libertarian but I fell out because I'm so against drug use and I think we should heavily criminalize it. --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:893921901] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>I used to consider myself libertarian but I fell out because I'm so against drug use and I think we should heavily criminalize it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 01/12/18 4:33:26 PM #7:	Shadowplay posted... Are libertarians jokes? yes --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:893922181] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shadowplay posted...</cite> <quote>Are libertarians jokes?</quote> yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 01/12/18 4:35:38 PM #8:	Libertarians agree with Trump on issues they agree with and disagree with Trump on issues they disagree with. It's not terribly complicated. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:893922305] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>Libertarians agree with Trump on issues they agree with and disagree with Trump on issues they disagree with. It's not terribly complicated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 01/12/18 4:37:28 PM #9:	r4X0r posted... disagree with Trump on issues they disagree with. They don't though. Libertarians are just republicans at this point. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:893922421] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>disagree with Trump on issues they disagree with.</quote> They don't though. Libertarians are just republicans at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadowplay 01/13/18 3:48:26 AM #10:	Up --- I make a topic in Final Fantasy 12 to ask if Tifa! They said no Tifa. Hardness gone!-gandob <cite>Shadowplay posted [p:893953945] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>Up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 01/13/18 2:26:32 PM #12:	Libertarians don't claim to oppise Trump. His policies are basically everything libertarians want. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:893974923] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>Libertarians don't claim to oppise Trump. His policies are basically everything libertarians want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadowplay 01/13/18 6:12:22 PM #13:	Mal_Fet posted... Libertarians don't claim to oppise Trump. His policies are basically everything libertarians want. Ah, so Mal_Fet, finally reveals why he submits to Trump. Funny too since the king of libertarians voted for Hillary just to keep Trump out of office. --- I make a topic in Final Fantasy 12 to ask if Tifa! They said no Tifa. Hardness gone!-gandob <cite>Shadowplay posted [p:893988259] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Libertarians don't claim to oppise Trump. His policies are basically everything libertarians want.</quote> Ah, so Mal_Fet, finally reveals why he submits to Trump. Funny too since the king of libertarians voted for Hillary just to keep Trump out of office.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 01/13/18 6:20:32 PM #14:	Shadowplay posted... Ah, so Mal_Fet, finally reveals why he submits to Trump. Yeah I like a guy who does things I want to happen What a concept --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:893988769] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shadowplay posted...</cite> <quote>Ah, so Mal_Fet, finally reveals why he submits to Trump.</quote> Yeah I like a guy who does things I want to happen What a concept</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 01/15/18 5:48:17 AM #15:	A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican. --- http://youtu.be/q2gO4DKVpa8 http://DemocraticUnderground.com/?com=latest_threads TrumpNews http://reddit.com/r/esist/new http://reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/new <cite>Notti posted [p:894085930] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 01/15/18 5:50:58 AM #16:	Notti posted... A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican. This --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:894085992] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Notti posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican.</quote> This</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadowplay 01/15/18 5:52:18 AM #17:	Notti posted... A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican. Ture, libertarians became popular in the late Bush years as a way to be conservative and "cool" instead of buying into all the Jesus shit. --- I make a topic in Final Fantasy 12 to ask if Tifa! They said no Tifa. Hardness gone!-gandob <cite>Shadowplay posted [p:894086020] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Notti posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican.</quote> Ture, libertarians became popular in the late Bush years as a way to be conservative and "cool" instead of buying into all the Jesus shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 01/15/18 6:20:04 AM #18:	Shadowplay posted... Notti posted... A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican. Ture, libertarians became popular in the late Bush years as a way to be conservative and "cool" instead of buying into all the Jesus shit. What if we're genuinely supportive of small government, low taxes, and don't care about religious moralism? Why is that so hard for you to accept? Is it because it means you can't use your favorite ad hominems when debating? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:894086540] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shadowplay posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Notti posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican.</quote> Ture, libertarians became popular in the late Bush years as a way to be conservative and "cool" instead of buying into all the Jesus shit.</quote> What if we're genuinely supportive of small government, low taxes, and don't care about religious moralism? Why is that so hard for you to accept? Is it because it means you can't use your favorite ad hominems when debating?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 01/15/18 6:32:47 AM #19:	I'm not afraid to criticize Trump, but I'm an actual libertarian and not a diet Republican. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:894086809] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>I'm not afraid to criticize Trump, but I'm an actual libertarian and not a diet Republican.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amuseum 01/15/18 7:08:48 AM #20:	Libertarians are anti authoritarianism. They think we should be extremely cautious and thrifty before giving governments too much power. Yeah Trump is dangerous. Guess what? The expansion of Presidential power over the centuries would eventually lead to such probability of someone abusing these powers. Some of Trumps actions are just undoing or reversing the actions of previous presidents. Irony. --- Ergonomic keyboard layouts for Android https://goo.gl/KR1vK6 5-suited Draw Poker for Android http://goo.gl/KhmXi <cite>Amuseum posted [p:894087525] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>Libertarians are anti authoritarianism. They think we should be extremely cautious and thrifty before giving governments too much power. Yeah Trump is dangerous. Guess what? The expansion of Presidential power over the centuries would eventually lead to such probability of someone abusing these powers. Some of Trumps actions are just undoing or reversing the actions of previous presidents. Irony.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JeanCocteau 01/15/18 7:29:33 AM #21:	Mal_Fet posted... Shadowplay posted... Notti posted... A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican. Ture, libertarians became popular in the late Bush years as a way to be conservative and "cool" instead of buying into all the Jesus shit. What if we're genuinely supportive of small government, low taxes, and don't care about religious moralism? Why is that so hard for you to accept? Is it because it means you can't use your favorite ad hominems when debating? Oh look, a mal fet post saying "ad hominem", how rare Anyways, we all know what you mean, the only government you are "generally supportive" is is a white one <cite>JeanCocteau posted [p:894087953] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shadowplay posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Notti posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican.</quote> Ture, libertarians became popular in the late Bush years as a way to be conservative and "cool" instead of buying into all the Jesus shit.</quote> What if we're genuinely supportive of small government, low taxes, and don't care about religious moralism? Why is that so hard for you to accept? Is it because it means you can't use your favorite ad hominems when debating?</quote> Oh look, a mal fet post saying "ad hominem", how rare Anyways, we all know what you mean, the only government you are "generally supportive" is is a white one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 01/15/18 7:31:52 AM #22:	Libertarians? You mean fedora Republicans? Lol they're not even a real party. They're just Republicans who pretend to think about their positions before taking a stance. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:894088002] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>Libertarians? You mean fedora Republicans? Lol they're not even a real party. They're just Republicans who pretend to think about their positions before taking a stance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/15/18 8:40:55 AM #23:	r4X0r posted... Libertarians agree with Trump on issues they agree with and disagree with Trump on issues they disagree with. It's not terribly complicated. This. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894089617] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>Libertarians agree with Trump on issues they agree with and disagree with Trump on issues they disagree with. It's not terribly complicated.</quote> This.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/15/18 8:42:12 AM #24:	Amuseum posted... Libertarians are anti authoritarianism. They think we should be extremely cautious and thrifty before giving governments too much power. Yeah Trump is dangerous. Guess what? The expansion of Presidential power over the centuries would eventually lead to such probability of someone abusing these powers. Some of Trumps actions are just undoing or reversing the actions of previous presidents. Irony. This, too. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894089644] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Amuseum posted...</cite> <quote>Libertarians are anti authoritarianism. They think we should be extremely cautious and thrifty before giving governments too much power. Yeah Trump is dangerous. Guess what? The expansion of Presidential power over the centuries would eventually lead to such probability of someone abusing these powers. Some of Trumps actions are just undoing or reversing the actions of previous presidents. Irony.</quote> This, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 01/15/18 8:57:30 AM #25:	Notti posted... A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican. This is pretty much it. They're basically the same, just aware enough to realize that "Republican" has a negative stigma attached to it in a lot of circles. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:894090098] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Notti posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican.</quote> This is pretty much it. They're basically the same, just aware enough to realize that "Republican" has a negative stigma attached to it in a lot of circles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/15/18 10:22:10 AM #26:	Doom_Art posted... Notti posted... A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican. This is pretty much it. They're basically the same, just aware enough to realize that "Republican" has a negative stigma attached to it in a lot of circles. Lol. Republicans are just as 'big government' as Democrats. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894093149] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Notti posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican.</quote> This is pretty much it. They're basically the same, just aware enough to realize that "Republican" has a negative stigma attached to it in a lot of circles.</quote> Lol. Republicans are just as 'big government' as Democrats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 01/15/18 3:03:38 PM #27:	JeanCocteau posted... Mal_Fet posted... Shadowplay posted... Notti posted... A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican. Ture, libertarians became popular in the late Bush years as a way to be conservative and "cool" instead of buying into all the Jesus shit. What if we're genuinely supportive of small government, low taxes, and don't care about religious moralism? Why is that so hard for you to accept? Is it because it means you can't use your favorite ad hominems when debating? Oh look, a mal fet post saying "ad hominem", how rare Anyways, we all know what you mean, the only government you are "generally supportive" is is a white one Oh look, I was right. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:894108926] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>JeanCocteau posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shadowplay posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Notti posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican.</quote> Ture, libertarians became popular in the late Bush years as a way to be conservative and "cool" instead of buying into all the Jesus shit.</quote> What if we're genuinely supportive of small government, low taxes, and don't care about religious moralism? Why is that so hard for you to accept? Is it because it means you can't use your favorite ad hominems when debating?</quote> Oh look, a mal fet post saying "ad hominem", how rare Anyways, we all know what you mean, the only government you are "generally supportive" is is a white one</quote> Oh look, I was right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 01/17/18 5:56:45 AM #28:	Doom_Art posted... Notti posted... A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican. This is pretty much it. They're basically the same, just aware enough to realize that "Republican" has a negative stigma attached to it in a lot of circles. You could say they are refugees. --- http://youtu.be/q2gO4DKVpa8 http://DemocraticUnderground.com/?com=latest_threads TrumpNews http://reddit.com/r/esist/new http://reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/new <cite>Notti posted [p:894215594] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Notti posted...</cite> <quote>A lot of libertarians are just afraid of the label Republican.</quote> This is pretty much it. They're basically the same, just aware enough to realize that "Republican" has a negative stigma attached to it in a lot of circles.</quote> You could say they are refugees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManSpread 01/17/18 5:59:25 AM #29:	the fact both @Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is --- http://i.imgur.com/7PDx6Ff.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WStMw87.gif http://i.imgur.com/aer0vok.gif https://i.imgur.com/XGlw6Ii.jpg <cite>ManSpread posted [p:894215640] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>the fact both @Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UncleBourbon33 01/17/18 5:59:53 AM #30:	Why would libertarians oppose Trump? --- "Wanting something doesn't make it a human right." https://i.imgur.com/aqrImUY.gif <cite>UncleBourbon33 posted [p:894215648] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>Why would libertarians oppose Trump?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 01/17/18 6:04:36 AM #31:	@ManSpread posted... the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is Why would you say I'm not a libertarian? --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:894215741] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>@ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote>the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is</quote> Why would you say I'm not a libertarian?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UncleBourbon33 01/17/18 6:06:02 AM #32:	Kineth posted... @ManSpread posted... the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is Why would you say I'm not a libertarian? Are you for the free market? --- "Wanting something doesn't make it a human right." https://i.imgur.com/aqrImUY.gif <cite>UncleBourbon33 posted [p:894215773] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote>the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is</quote> Why would you say I'm not a libertarian?</quote> Are you for the free market?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 01/17/18 6:09:10 AM #33:	UncleBourbon33 posted... Kineth posted... @ ManSpread posted... the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is Why would you say I'm not a libertarian? Are you for the free market? Yes, I also have an economics degree and don't need to hear pedantics from someone with a flawed economic understanding. We're in a mixed economy and it's not a free market and never was. Regardless, some regulations are necessary. To some people that seems to indicate that I am not for a market economy. Not sure why but whatever. Ultimately, I'm for an efficient economy. Yes, I do think that people's health and education shouldn't be up to "the marketplace" because: A) it's desirable to have a healthy and educated populace B) public healthcare functions exactly like how insurance pools work, except it'd be on a bigger scale, which would bring premiums way down and break up the monopolies that are currently present, creating a freer market. C) people shouldn't have to take on debt to get an education. That's just ridiculous. D) The workforce can't add much to consumption if they're accruing debt in needless places early on in life. There are more reasons than those as well. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:894215825] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>UncleBourbon33 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@ ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote>the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is</quote> Why would you say I'm not a libertarian?</quote> Are you for the free market?</quote> Yes, I also have an economics degree and don't need to hear pedantics from someone with a flawed economic understanding. We're in a mixed economy and it's not a free market and never was. Regardless, some regulations are necessary. To some people that seems to indicate that I am not for a market economy. Not sure why but whatever. Ultimately, I'm for an efficient economy. Yes, I do think that people's health and education shouldn't be up to "the marketplace" because: A) it's desirable to have a healthy and educated populace B) public healthcare functions exactly like how insurance pools work, except it'd be on a bigger scale, which would bring premiums way down and break up the monopolies that are currently present, creating a freer market. C) people shouldn't have to take on debt to get an education. That's just ridiculous. D) The workforce can't add much to consumption if they're accruing debt in needless places early on in life. There are more reasons than those as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim Kusanagi 01/17/18 6:35:57 AM #34:	ManSpread posted... the fact both @Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is I dunno about @Kineth but Mal is a standard fall in Line Trump cultist. --- Live to train. Train to fight. Fight to live. When you retire, think only on fighting. Take me away, I don't mind, but you better promise I'll be back in time! <cite>Kim Kusanagi posted [p:894216351] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote>the fact both @Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is</quote> I dunno about @Kineth but Mal is a standard fall in Line Trump cultist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/17/18 8:38:47 AM #35:	Kineth posted... @ManSpread posted... the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is Why would you say I'm not a libertarian? Libertarians wouldn't make up lies to defend Trayvon Martin like you do. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894219623] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote>the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is</quote> Why would you say I'm not a libertarian?</quote> Libertarians wouldn't make up lies to defend Trayvon Martin like you do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/17/18 8:39:56 AM #36:	Kineth posted... UncleBourbon33 posted... Kineth posted... @ ManSpread posted... the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is Why would you say I'm not a libertarian? Are you for the free market? Yes, I also have an economics degree and don't need to hear pedantics from someone with a flawed economic understanding. We're in a mixed economy and it's not a free market and never was. Regardless, some regulations are necessary. To some people that seems to indicate that I am not for a market economy. Not sure why but whatever. Ultimately, I'm for an efficient economy. Yes, I do think that people's health and education shouldn't be up to "the marketplace" because: A) it's desirable to have a healthy and educated populace B) public healthcare functions exactly like how insurance pools work, except it'd be on a bigger scale, which would bring premiums way down and break up the monopolies that are currently present, creating a freer market. C) people shouldn't have to take on debt to get an education. That's just ridiculous. D) The workforce can't add much to consumption if they're accruing debt in needless places early on in life. There are more reasons than those as well. This shows EXACTLY why you're a Democrat, and not a Libertarian. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894219650] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UncleBourbon33 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@ ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote>the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is</quote> Why would you say I'm not a libertarian?</quote> Are you for the free market?</quote> Yes, I also have an economics degree and don't need to hear pedantics from someone with a flawed economic understanding. We're in a mixed economy and it's not a free market and never was. Regardless, some regulations are necessary. To some people that seems to indicate that I am not for a market economy. Not sure why but whatever. Ultimately, I'm for an efficient economy. Yes, I do think that people's health and education shouldn't be up to "the marketplace" because: A) it's desirable to have a healthy and educated populace B) public healthcare functions exactly like how insurance pools work, except it'd be on a bigger scale, which would bring premiums way down and break up the monopolies that are currently present, creating a freer market. C) people shouldn't have to take on debt to get an education. That's just ridiculous. D) The workforce can't add much to consumption if they're accruing debt in needless places early on in life. There are more reasons than those as well.</quote> This shows EXACTLY why you're a Democrat, and not a Libertarian.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 01/17/18 8:40:02 AM #37:	Yeah, Mal isn't a libertarian by any stretch of the word. He promotes and advocates for authoritarianism all the time. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:894219657] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, Mal isn't a libertarian by any stretch of the word. He promotes and advocates for authoritarianism all the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ilovu 01/17/18 8:40:54 AM #38:	Kineth posted... Yeah, Mal isn't a libertarian by any stretch of the word. He promotes and advocates for authoritarianism all the time. he's a Putin fan <cite>ilovu posted [p:894219690] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, Mal isn't a libertarian by any stretch of the word. He promotes and advocates for authoritarianism all the time.</quote> he's a Putin fan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/17/18 8:44:57 AM #40:	UncleBourbon33 posted... Why would libertarians oppose Trump? Military expansion, attacks on the press, crony Capitalism, to start. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894219825] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>UncleBourbon33 posted...</cite> <quote>Why would libertarians oppose Trump?</quote> Military expansion, attacks on the press, crony Capitalism, to start.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 01/17/18 8:57:28 AM #41:	Diet libertarians support Trump. Those with more consistency do not. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:894220262] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>Diet libertarians support Trump. Those with more consistency do not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 01/17/18 9:10:14 AM #44:	Well he is cutting money from Government organizations which in term limits their power. Libertarians like that. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:894220728] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>Well he is cutting money from Government organizations which in term limits their power. Libertarians like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 01/17/18 9:19:09 AM #45:	creativerealms posted... Well he is cutting money from Government organizations which in term limits their power. Libertarians like that. Libertarians like an efficiently run government and also aren't in favor of a huge military. Cutting money from programs just to cut money from them isn't how libertarianism works. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:894221033] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote>Well he is cutting money from Government organizations which in term limits their power. Libertarians like that.</quote> Libertarians like an efficiently run government and also aren't in favor of a huge military. Cutting money from programs just to cut money from them isn't how libertarianism works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 01/17/18 10:44:21 AM #46:	Kineth posted... creativerealms posted... Well he is cutting money from Government organizations which in term limits their power. Libertarians like that. Libertarians like an efficiently run government and also aren't in favor of a huge military. Cutting money from programs just to cut money from them isn't how libertarianism works. Indeed. Cutting regulations here and there for the sake of the doing so isn't something that neither "efficient government" libertarians nor super-minarchist libertarians like. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:894224326] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote>Well he is cutting money from Government organizations which in term limits their power. Libertarians like that.</quote> Libertarians like an efficiently run government and also aren't in favor of a huge military. Cutting money from programs just to cut money from them isn't how libertarianism works.</quote> Indeed. Cutting regulations here and there for the sake of the doing so isn't something that neither "efficient government" libertarians nor super-minarchist libertarians like.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 01/17/18 10:47:40 AM #47:	Musourenka posted... Kineth posted... creativerealms posted... Well he is cutting money from Government organizations which in term limits their power. Libertarians like that. Libertarians like an efficiently run government and also aren't in favor of a huge military. Cutting money from programs just to cut money from them isn't how libertarianism works. Indeed. Cutting regulations here and there for the sake of the doing so isn't something that neither "efficient government" libertarians nor super-minarchist libertarians like. idk, to be fair I think this is more of a tactical question than an ideological one. There are libertarians who think this kind of "starve the beast" strategy is a good one, though I am not one. --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:894224478] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Musourenka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote>Well he is cutting money from Government organizations which in term limits their power. Libertarians like that.</quote> Libertarians like an efficiently run government and also aren't in favor of a huge military. Cutting money from programs just to cut money from them isn't how libertarianism works.</quote> Indeed. Cutting regulations here and there for the sake of the doing so isn't something that neither "efficient government" libertarians nor super-minarchist libertarians like.</quote> idk, to be fair I think this is more of a tactical question than an ideological one. There are libertarians who think this kind of "starve the beast" strategy is a good one, though I am not one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/17/18 12:04:29 PM #48:	It's funny seeing two of the hardcore leftists on this board claiming to be Libertarian. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894228354] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote>It's funny seeing two of the hardcore leftists on this board claiming to be Libertarian.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManSpread 01/17/18 12:11:25 PM #49:	Kineth posted... @ManSpread posted... the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is Why would you say I'm not a libertarian? What I'm meaning to say is with how radically different both of you are I have no idea what a libertarian actually is when you both identify as one --- http://i.imgur.com/7PDx6Ff.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WStMw87.gif http://i.imgur.com/aer0vok.gif https://i.imgur.com/XGlw6Ii.jpg <cite>ManSpread posted [p:894228731] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote>the fact both @ Kineth and @Mal_Fet call themselves libertarians is why i dont know what the fuck a libertarian actually is</quote> Why would you say I'm not a libertarian?</quote> What I'm meaning to say is with how radically different both of you are I have no idea what a libertarian actually is when you both identify as one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 01/17/18 12:23:39 PM #50:	darkjedilink posted... It's funny seeing two of the hardcore leftists on this board claiming to be Libertarian. Almost as funny as Mal trying to be libertarian. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:894229335] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny seeing two of the hardcore leftists on this board claiming to be Libertarian.</quote> Almost as funny as Mal trying to be libertarian.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 01/17/18 1:03:17 PM #51:	Kineth posted... creativerealms posted... Well he is cutting money from Government organizations which in term limits their power. Libertarians like that. Libertarians like an efficiently run government and also aren't in favor of a huge military. Cutting money from programs just to cut money from them isn't how libertarianism works. Yeah I was making a joke. A bad one. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:894231670] in Why is it ... [t:76194447]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote>Well he is cutting money from Government organizations which in term limits their power. Libertarians like that.</quote> Libertarians like an efficiently run government and also aren't in favor of a huge military. Cutting money from programs just to cut money from them isn't how libertarianism works.</quote> Yeah I was making a joke. A bad one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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