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While it is subject to change, I plan on doing the award ceremony at 8 PM ET, so ballots must be in by 7 PM ET on Saturday
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I really wish you werent doing this on a Saturday and Sunday so I coukd attend
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It was either this Friday/Saturday, Saturday/Sunday, or maybe toward the end of March, but there was no way that I was going to do the last one.
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Coach of the Year: Cowboys' Gunther Cunningham (14-2, 90 Team Rating)

Returner of the Year
Pumpkins' Alley Broussard (47 KR for 28.5 avg, 45 PR for 10.6 avg, 3 TDs)
Rams' Roy Helu Jr. (58 KR for 28.8 avg, 47 PR for 10.6 avg, 2 TDs)
Really tough call, but I guess I'll give it to Broussard... Nah, changed my mind. Gotta go Helu with the slightly better average on more returns.

Punter of the Year
Plackemeier punted the ball the most. Richardson punted the ball the best. Anger a close second. (Richardson is my pick)

Kicker of the Year
Jets' Lawrence Tynes (33-38 FGAs, 30-30 XPAs, 6-7 from 50+)

Defensive Back of the Year
Giants' SS Drew Kelson (102 tackles, 4 INTs, 3 FFs, 7 FRs)

Linebacker of the Year
Packers' LOLB Spencer Havner (172 tackles, 6 sacks, 4 INTs, 5 FFs, 1 FR)

Defensive Lineman of the Year
Oh, no, another tough one. DT Charles Alexander takes it in the end for me.

Offensive Lineman of the Year
Hawks' RT Justin Blalock (63 blocks, 1 sack allowed)

Tight End of the Year
Wildcats' Dane Guthrie (85 receptions for 741 yards, 6 TDs)

Wide Receiver of the Year
Dolphins' Kelly Campbell (87 receptions for 1415 yards, 15 TDs)

Running Back of the Year
Jaguars' Adrian Peterson (257 carries for 1314 yards, 19 receptions for 163 yards, 15 TDs)
Easily wins with like 5.1 yards per carry or something and had the most TDs.

Quarterback of the Year
Pumpkins' Chris Leak (304-460, 3363 yards, 33 TDs, 11 INTs)
Rams' Ryan Tannehill (288-431, 3336 yards, 27 TDs, 9 INTs)
Very thin margin here, and if I had procrastinated less, I'd have asked KCF about their rushing stats so I could decide a winner. I guess I'll go with Tannehill in the end due to his better YPA.

Defensive Rookie of the Year
Pioneers' DT Geno Atkins (51 tackles, 10 sacks, 2 FFs, 2 FRs)
Pumpkins' LOLB Nick Perry (70 tackles, 5 sacks, 3 INTs, 2 FFs, 2 FRs)
I don't know who to pick here... I think I'll go Perry with just a slight edge due to the 3 INTs. But maybe I'm picking wrong here.

Offensive Rookie of the Year
Rams' QB Ryan Tannehill (288-431, 3336 yards, 27 TDs, 9 INTs)

Defensive Player of the Year:
It's probably between Spencer Havner and Drew Kelson, and I don't know who to take. 7 FRs for Kelson is absolutely insane regardless of circumstance. Havner filled up the stat sheet accross the board. As much as I've railed against the horrible picks the users have made here for going with "whoever has the most tackles wins" in the past, Spencer Havner earned it everywhere else, so he is my pick this year. I miss you Spencer. :(

Offensive Player of the Year:
Running out of time here, but gonna go with Tannehill once again here (probably just a bit over guys like Kelly Campbell and Adrian Peterson).

MVP:
,,, Havner or Tannehill... going with Havner.

BPOTY: Havner

CPOTY: don't have time unfortunately to actually makea decision

GM of the Year: I worked out some reason back when these were posted to give this to Emerald. I don't have time to think any more about it right now since I need to get these picks in, so hopefully I had good reasons. It was probably something like, I'm obviously not voting for myself, plus I messed up this past off-season, Jukkie didn't make the playoffs, and Stan has traded away his future or something. I dunno. posting bfore 7 PM now.

I will be in the spreadsheet starting now, but due to absolutely shitty weather, I am just now able to open PMs. Actual revealing of winners won't be right at 8, but I am about to start working hard to tally stuff.
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After reading some ballots, I will next year change Off Player/Def Player/MVP awards to include 10 nominees instead of opening it up to just about everyone.
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Everything is tallied, so if anyone would like to join myself, Emerald, and an AFK stevr in the spreadsheet please do as I plan on revealing winners within five minutes.
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Coach of the Year

Madden's Ballot
1. Gunther Cunningham (Cowboys)
2. Mike Shanahan (Broncos)
3. Jim Johnson (Vikings)
4. Dom Capers (Pioneers)
5. Vinny Testaverde (Dolphins)

Users' Ballot
1. Gunther Cunningham - 5 votes
2. Dom Capers - 2 votes
T-3. Jim Johnson - 1 vote
T-3. Mike Shanahan - 1 vote
T-3. Vinny Testaverde - 1 vote
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Returner of the Year

Users' Ballot
1. Alley Broussard (Pumpkins)- 5 votes
T-2. Roy Helu Jr. (Rams) - 2 votes
T-2. Todd Walker (49ers) - 2 votes
4. Leodis McKelvin (Ravens) - 1 vote
5. Darren McFadden (Cowboys) - 0 votes
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Punter of the Year

Users' Ballot
1. Kyle Richardson (Browns) - 6 votes
2. Ryan Plackemeier (Ravens) - 2 votes
T-3. Bryan Anger (Jaguars) - 1 vote
T-3. Mike Scifres (Titans) - 1 vote
5. Kyle Larson (Pumpkins) - 0 votes
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Kicker of the Year

Madden's Ballot
1. Lawrence Tynes (Jets)
2. Derek Moore (Pumpkins)
3. LaRue Rucker (Falcons)
4. Neil Rackers (Lightning)
5. Ryan Succop (Broncos)

Users' Ballot
1. Lawrence Tynes - 9 votes
2. Neil Rackers - 1 vote
T-3. Derek Moore - 0 votes
T-3. LaRue Rucker - 0 votes
T-3. Ryan Succop - 0 votes

*Neil Rackers and Ryan Succop were chosen as commissioner replacements for Sebastian Janikowski and Nick Folk
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Defensive Back of the Year

Madden's Ballot
1. SS Drew Kelson (Giants)
2. SS Lewis Baker (Bills)
3. SS Troy Polamalu (Cowboys)
4. SS Ifeanyi Ohalete (Lions)
5. FS Ed Reed (Dolphins)

Users' Ballot
1. Lewis Baker - 6 votes
2. Drew Kelson - 4 votes
T-3. Ifeanyi Ohalete - 0 votes
T-3. Troy Polamalu - 0 votes
T-3. Ed Reed - 0 votes
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Linebacker of the Year

Madden's Ballot
1. LOLB Spencer Havner (Packers)
2. ROLB Daryl Smith (Dolphins)
3. LOLB Kamerion Wimbley (Pioneers)
4. LOLB Marcus Washington (Wildcats)
5. ROLB Aaron Curry (Browns)

Users' Ballot
1. Spencer Havner - 9 votes
2. Daryl Smith - 1 vote
T-3. Aaron Curry - 0 votes
T-3. Marcus Washington - 0 votes
T-3. Kamerion Wimbley - 0 votes
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Only good thing about my team this season >___>

Congrats Havner!!
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Defensive Lineman of the Year

Madden's Ballot
1. RE Jamaal Anderson (Cowboys)
2. DT Geno Atkins (Pioneers)
3. DT Charles Alexander (Jets)
4. DT Jerrell Powe (Cowboys)
5. RE Calais Campbell (Dolphins)

Users' Ballot
1. Jamaal Anderson - 5 votes
2. Charles Alexander - 3 votes
3. Geno Atkins - 2 votes
T-4. Calais Campbell - 0 votes
T-4. Jerrell Powe - 0 votes
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Offensive Lineman of the Year

Madden's Ballot
1. RT Shane Olivea (Broncos)
2. RT Mark Tauscher (49ers)
3. C Hank Fraley (Broncos)
4. RT Daniel Inman (Redskins)
5. RT Justin Blalock (Hawks)

Users' Ballot
1. Shane Olivea - 4 votes
T-2. Justin Blalock - 3 votes
T-2. Daniel Inman - 3 votes
T-4. Hank Fraley - 0 votes
T-4. Mark Tauscher - 0 votes
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Tight End of the Year

Users' Ballot
1. Dane Guthrie (Wildcats) - 10 votes
T-2. Dominique Byrd (Colts) - 0 votes
T-2. Randy McMichael (Falcons) - 0 votes
T-2. Zach Miller (Dolphins) - 0 votes
T-2. Jason Witten (Cowboys) 0 votes
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Wide Receiver of the Year

Madden's Ballot
1. Kelly Campbell (Dolphins)
2. Chad Johnson (Bills)
3. DeSean Jackson (Seahawks)
4. Ted Ginn (Pumpkins)
5. David Givens (Buccaneers)

Users' Ballot
1. Kelly Campbell - 9 votes
2. Chad Johnson - 1 vote
T-3. DeSean Jackson - 0 votes
T-3. Ted Ginn - 0 votes
T-3. David Givens - 0 votes

*David Givens was chosen as a commissioner replacement for Cowboys WR Koren Robinson
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Running Back of the Year

Madden's Ballot
1. Darius Walker (Cowboys) *coughmaddencowboysbiascough*
2. Ronnie Brown (Rams)
3. Adrian Peterson (Jaguars)
4. Romance Taylor (Jets)
5. Steven Jackson (Colts)

Users' Ballot
T-1. Adrian Peterson - 3 votes
T-1. Steven Jackson - 3 votes
T-1. Romance Taylor - 3 votes
4. Ronnie Brown - 1 vote
5. Darius Walker - 0 votes

Poor Ronnie Brown the only one to not win
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Quarterback of the Year

Madden's Ballot
1. Ryan Tannehill (Rams)
2. Chris Leak (Pumpkins)
3. Sam Keller (Dolphins)
4. Brady Quinn (Bills)
5. Kirby Freeman (Titans)

Users' Ballot
1. Chris Leak - 6 votes
2. Ryan Tannehill - 3 votes
3. Brady Quinn - 1 vote
T-4. Sam Keller - 0 votes
T-4. Kirby Freeman - 0 votes
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Defensive Rookie of the Year

Madden's Ballot
1. MLB Kiko Alonso (Bengals)
2. LOLB Nick Perry (Pumpkins)
3. LOLB Jelani Jenkins (Bills)
4. DT Geno Atkins (Pioneers)
5. LOLB Barkavious Mingo (Giants)

Users' Ballot
T-1. Kiko Alonso - 3 votes
T-1. Geno Atkins - 3 votes
3. Nick Perry - 2 votes
T-4. Jelani Jenkins - 1 vote
T-4. Barkavious Mingo - 1 vote
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Offensive Rookie of the Year

Madden's Ballot
1. QB Ryan Tannehill (Rams)
2. HB Isaiah Pead (Giants)
3. HB Doug Martin (Ravens
4. HB DeMarco Murray (Hawks)
5. RT Marcus Cannon (Patriots)

Users' Ballot
1. Ryan Tannehill - 10 votes
T-2. Marcus Cannon - 0 votes
T-2. Doug Martin - 0 votes
T-2. DeMarco Murray - 0 votes
T-2. Isaiah Pead - 0 votes

Pead was the only rookie up for either award to not be a first-round pick

*Marcus Cannon was a commissioner replacement for QB E.J. Manuel
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Defensive Player of the Year

Madden's Ballot
1. LOLB Spencer Havner (Packers)
2. SS Drew Kelson (Giants)
3. ROLB Daryl Smith (Dolphins)
4. LOLB Kamerion Wimbley (Pioneers)
5. SS Lewis Baker (Bills)
6. SS Troy Polamalu (Cowboys)
7. LOLB Marcus Washington (Wildcats)
8. ROLB Aaron Curry (Browns)
9. SS Ifeanyi Ohalate (Lions)
10. RE Jamaal Anderson (Cowboys)

Users' Ballot
1. Spencer Havner - 7 votes
T-2. Lewis Baker - 1 vote
T-2. Drew Kelson - 1 vote

Madden hates DL
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Offensive Player of the Year

Madden's Ballot
1. QB Josh Portis (Vikings)
2. WR Kelly Campbell (Dolphins)
3. HB Romance Taylor (Jets)
4. HB Darius Walker (Cowboys)
5. HB Ronnie Brown (Rams)
6. QB Ryan Tannehill (Rams)
7. QB Brady Quinn (Bills)
8. HB Steven Jackson (Colts)
9. HB Adrian Peterson (Jaguars)
10. WR Chad Johnson (Bills)

Users' Ballot
1. Kelly Campbell - 3 votes
2. Ryan Tannehill - 2 votes
T-3. Shane Olivea - 1 vote
T-3. Justin Blalock - 1 vote
T-3. Brady Quinn - 1 vote
T-3. Daniel Inman - 1 vote

Madden hates OL more as they will never vote for them for Off Rook or Player
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Most Valuable Player

Madden's Ballot
1. QB Josh Portis (Vikings)
2. LOLB Spencer Havner (Packers)
3. WR Kelly Campbell (Dolphins)
4. QB Chris Leak (Pumpkins)
5. HB Romance Taylor (Jets)
6. QB Ryan Tannehill (Rams)
7. QB Sam Keller (Dolphins)
8. QB Brady Quinn (Bills)
9. HB Darius Walker (Cowboys)
10. QB Kirby Freeman (Titans)

Users' Ballot
1. Spencer Havner - 5 votes
2. Ryan Tannehill - 3 votes
T-3. Kelly Campbell - 1 vote
T-3. Chris Leak - 1 vote
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Breakout Player of the Year

Users' Ballot
1. LOLB Spencer Havner (Packers) - 7 votes
T-2. HB Dexter McCluster (Patriots) - 1 vote
T-2. WR Patrick Turner (Browns) - 1 vote
T-4. DT Ndamukong Suh (Dolphins) - 0 votes
T-4. LT Tavo Tupola (Bengals) - 0 votes
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Comeback Player of the Year

Users' Ballot
T-1. HB Ronnie Brown (Rams) - 2 votes
T-1. QB Eli Manning (Lightning) - 2 votes
T-1. SS Ifeanyi Ohalete (Lions) - 2 votes
T-4. DT Jonathan Babineaux (Falcons) - 1 vote
T-4. HB Lynell Hamilton (Seahawks) - 1 vote
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General Manager of the Year

Users' Ballot
1. Emerald - 6 votes
2. Stan - 3 votes
3. KCF - 1 vote
T-4. Jukkie - 0 votes
T-4. stevr - 0 votes

And to think Emerald was the last person I put in as a candidate. Sorry Scare, Eddv, and Nee, that could have been you!
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I want to thank everyone who voted and Emerald and Jukkie for showing up. stevr gets half-credit too. Though we saw a significant drop-off from our turnout for our first live awards show, I have decided to renew for a third season to see if ratings go up some.
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theawesomestevr posted...

Quarterback of the Year
Pumpkins' Chris Leak (304-460, 3363 yards, 33 TDs, 11 INTs)
Rams' Ryan Tannehill (288-431, 3336 yards, 27 TDs, 9 INTs)
Very thin margin here, and if I had procrastinated less, I'd have asked KCF about their rushing stat

Pocket passers, really the only kind of QB you will ever find listed for QB of the Year, do not run with the ball really at all. Leak and Tannehill ran with the ball seven times this season. You can see why I never mention QB rushing stats in game summaries or stat PMs unless you are like Portis, Vick, or Vince Young.
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ShatteredElysium posted...

Could we maybe get a playoff preview of the teams/their performance/key players/etc? Or maybe like a quick season review of all the teams in the league in the waiting period?

I can't guarantee that I will get around to this, but it would now have to be tomorrow.
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MVP!!
MVP!!
MVP!!

Dats my linebacker!!
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KCF0107 posted...

I want to thank everyone who voted and Emerald and Jukkie for showing up. stevr gets half-credit too. Though we saw a significant drop-off from our turnout for our first live awards show, I have decided to renew for a third season to see if ratings go up some.

To be fair, eddv had scheduling issues so there's at least one other person who had interest at least.
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Two things:

1. As I mentioned earlier, I received multiple PMs regarding the overwhelming choices for Off Player, Def Player, and MVP awards. In one user's case, they elected to not vote a few of the categories. I thought about compacting the list from this year by having an expanded list of previous years by making the nomination pool for those awards from Madden's Top 10 instead of 5. However, they give no love to OL or DL, and we saw some love for the former this year, so I don't think I can come up with a creative compromise. Instead, I am leaning in future years just saying you can choose any nominee from applicable categories. I'm not sure if that will help or not.

2. Every year, someone laments that X player wasn't nominated for Y award. That award is most often Comeback Player of the Year. Unless a player missed literally or essentially the entire season before, I often do not consider them for the award. I look more at players who had a bounceback performance, such as Babineaux, or had a return to form that was long overdue, like Ronnie Brown. If people typically value injured players over those that I laid out, then I will try to include more of them in the future, but I need to know how many games they needed to have missed the previous year.
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Playoff Simming is tentatively set to be simmed at 8 PM ET tomorrow
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To Do
- Add award winners to wiki
- Add playoff results to wiki (still TBD)
- Add SB-winning players to wiki (still TBD)
- Officially start asking people if they will return or leave (after playoffs)
- Create sign-up topic for new blood (after playoffs)
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KCF0107 posted...

Instead, I am leaning in future years just saying you can choose any nominee from applicable categories. I'm not sure if that will help or not.

I would be fine with this, I would think it's rare for the winner of those awards to have not been even in the running for the award at their respective positions.
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I meant to say that instead of typing out a massive block of text, which is what people seemed to have concerns over, I just write one sentence saying choose anyone from these categories. The problem is when a scrambling QB like Vick/Portis/Young has a great season. I think I will just have to not-so-subtly add a line saying, oh yeah, there's also this guy with this statline.
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KCF0107 posted...

ShatteredElysium posted...

Could we maybe get a playoff preview of the teams/their performance/key players/etc? Or maybe like a quick season review of all the teams in the league in the waiting period?

I can't guarantee that I will get around to this, but it would now have to be tomorrow.

Oh don't worry about it, I was trying to suggest content for the topic during the long waiting period until the award show/playoffs.

My players need to post better stats, I think in the 4 seasons I've done I can only remember Jamario Thomas and Adam Tufts being up for awards. Maybe a stray 1 or 2 others but last 2 years have been sparse.

Way to go, Emmy! I'm positive you'll represent the league better than i did...

Sorry i wasn't able to make the award show, i really do care. I'll make the playoffs for sure though.
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I was too distracted by Stellaris to show up for the Awards Show >_>
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Tonight
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Not a lot of buzz regarding these playoffs, but I will give my Wild Card Round predictions:

Pioneers over Bills
Vikings over Falcons
Jets over Bengals
Giants over Panthers

Due to Madden being weird with seeding in future rounds, I won't give predictions for those, but I think that the Broncos and Cowboys will meet in the Super Bowl (such a bold prediction I know) with the Broncos emerging as our first AI SB winner.
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KCF0107 posted...

Not a lot of buzz regarding these playoffs

Hey now, the Bills are excited! But the prevalence of AI teams this year probably has killed the hype for some people.

Ooh, KCF predicting a Bills loss can only mean good things...

Is the AI getting better this year because of us being worse or is it partially to do with them having more cap space?

Also my hype for the playoffs is more related to retirements and rating changes! My roster is gonna be such a mess next year

Well two of the 5 drafted highly rated QBs with top 5 draft picks last year, and Tannehill ended up being arguably the best QB in the league this season.

But it is true that 3 of the 5 are well over the user cap, with the Broncos being a whopping 20 million above it. Though obviously there are also AI teams like Redskins and Colts who are way over the user cap and didn't make the playoffs, and they weren't particularly close to making it either.

Yeah, I don't think cap space has anything to do with it.
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Also, I took someone to a toy store, and I am still there. I might be cutting it close.
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Be there in a couple minutes
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