Current Events > Calling someone a troll is now considered flaming?

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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/22/18 8:54:47 PM
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0YaIwAI

when did this happen
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/23/18 7:16:26 AM
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bump
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ArchiePeck
01/23/18 7:18:36 AM
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Well, you ARE flaming them LOL
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Chicken
01/23/18 7:18:45 AM
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Is this why people stopped calling me a troll?
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l Dudeboy l
01/23/18 7:23:29 AM
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TC you are such a Richard.
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V-E-G-Y-
01/23/18 7:26:00 AM
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KookyCouture
01/23/18 7:26:43 AM
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https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/6-gamefaqs-announcements/76187373

Flaming will no longer be defined by how "bad" the flame is. If you are name calling, you will be moderated for flaming if reported (unless it's very clearly in jest). "Light flames" will no longer be a thing. No name calling, period. We will generally start with NWD on flames unless you're using seriously offensive flames in which case you'll probably be moderated for Offensive instead anyway.
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/23/18 7:27:45 AM
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KookyCouture posted...
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/6-gamefaqs-announcements/76187373

Flaming will no longer be defined by how "bad" the flame is. If you are name calling, you will be moderated for flaming if reported (unless it's very clearly in jest). "Light flames" will no longer be a thing. No name calling, period. We will generally start with NWD on flames unless you're using seriously offensive flames in which case you'll probably be moderated for Offensive instead anyway.

lmao damn this site is baby af now
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Dragon239
01/23/18 7:28:02 AM
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Funkydog
01/23/18 7:30:08 AM
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Trolls need protection too.

if people call them out, how can they troll?
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EverDownward
01/23/18 7:30:58 AM
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yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
KookyCouture posted...
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/6-gamefaqs-announcements/76187373

Flaming will no longer be defined by how "bad" the flame is. If you are name calling, you will be moderated for flaming if reported (unless it's very clearly in jest). "Light flames" will no longer be a thing. No name calling, period. We will generally start with NWD on flames unless you're using seriously offensive flames in which case you'll probably be moderated for Offensive instead anyway.

lmao damn this site is baby af now

Got a little too 4chan for its own good. That, and Trump setting off the worst in progressives didn't help the situation none.
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pegusus123456
01/23/18 7:31:15 AM
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KookyCouture posted...
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/6-gamefaqs-announcements/76187373

Flaming will no longer be defined by how "bad" the flame is. If you are name calling, you will be moderated for flaming if reported (unless it's very clearly in jest). "Light flames" will no longer be a thing. No name calling, period. We will generally start with NWD on flames unless you're using seriously offensive flames in which case you'll probably be moderated for Offensive instead anyway.

Wow.

This site's always been really lackluster at modding actual trolls, so this is just sad.
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/23/18 7:32:20 AM
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Funkydog posted...
Trolls need protection too.

if people call them out, how can they troll?

lmao this should be fun tbh
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KookyCouture
01/23/18 7:36:59 AM
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yoloyoloswagEMP posted...

lmao damn this site is baby af now


Honestly, at first it did seem pedantic to moderate for terms like "nerd" and "troll" ect when we never touched those before, but now I think the new way is much better - what does name calling add to a discussion anyway? It only instigates the other user to retort back and then the discussion just ends up with users going back and forth flinging insults at each other.
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zado19
01/23/18 7:37:46 AM
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Careful now @Baha05
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/23/18 7:42:56 AM
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KookyCouture posted...
yoloyoloswagEMP posted...

lmao damn this site is baby af now


Honestly, at first it did seem pedantic to moderate for terms like "nerd" and "troll" ect when we never touched those before, but now I think the new way is much better - what does name calling add to a discussion anyway? It only instigates the other user to retort back and then the discussion just ends up with users going back and forth flinging insults at each other.

we get it, you dickride the mods of the site
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Drrobotniks
01/23/18 7:44:45 AM
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yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
KookyCouture posted...
yoloyoloswagEMP posted...

lmao damn this site is baby af now


Honestly, at first it did seem pedantic to moderate for terms like "nerd" and "troll" ect when we never touched those before, but now I think the new way is much better - what does name calling add to a discussion anyway? It only instigates the other user to retort back and then the discussion just ends up with users going back and forth flinging insults at each other.

we get it, you dickride the mods of the site

Uh, he is a mod
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/23/18 7:45:03 AM
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Drrobotniks posted...
yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
KookyCouture posted...
yoloyoloswagEMP posted...

lmao damn this site is baby af now


Honestly, at first it did seem pedantic to moderate for terms like "nerd" and "troll" ect when we never touched those before, but now I think the new way is much better - what does name calling add to a discussion anyway? It only instigates the other user to retort back and then the discussion just ends up with users going back and forth flinging insults at each other.

we get it, you dickride the mods of the site

Uh, he is a mod

thatsthejoke
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TheRealDill2000
01/23/18 8:19:53 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
This site's always been really lackluster at modding actual trolls, so this is just sad.

I wholeheartedly disagree. The mods have always been effective in regards to addressing trolls.
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/23/18 8:21:01 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
This site's always been really lackluster at modding actual trolls, so this is just sad.

I wholeheartedly disagree. The mods have always been effective in regards to addressing trolls.

Speaking as a troll, nah not really

It's gotten more lenient
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mipond
01/23/18 8:21:56 AM
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l Dudeboy l posted...
TC you are such a Richard.

This is funny.
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butthole666
01/23/18 8:24:33 AM
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The only trolling mods I've ever gotten were for non-troll posts expressing a negative opinion on game boards

This site is awful lol
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pegusus123456
01/23/18 8:27:23 AM
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yoloyoloswagEMP posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
This site's always been really lackluster at modding actual trolls, so this is just sad.

I wholeheartedly disagree. The mods have always been effective in regards to addressing trolls.

Speaking as a troll, nah not really

It's gotten more lenient

He's saying that because he's a....person that habitually enters topics and disagrees with the majority opinion solely to antagonize people.
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Laserion
01/23/18 8:37:18 AM
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"Don't hate the sinner, hate the sin."
In this case it means:
Don't say "You're a troll."
Say "You are trolling."
See? The focus is on the action, not the user.
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lilORANG
01/23/18 8:41:41 AM
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what if you call someone a troll, and then that person gets modded for trolling?
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cuttin_in_farm
01/23/18 8:44:32 AM
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Laserion posted...
"Don't hate the sinner, hate the sin."
In this case it means:
Don't say "You're a troll."
Say "You are trolling."
See? The focus is on the action, not the user.


"You're an idiot" vs "You're behaving like an idiot."

Is this an effective loophole?
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JustMonika
01/23/18 8:45:27 AM
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lilORANG posted...
what if you call someone a troll, and then that person gets modded for trolling?

You're implying trolls ever get modded for trolling here.
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Baha05
01/23/18 8:46:28 AM
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zado19 posted...
Careful now @Baha05

Ahh look at that calling only me out for bullshit eh?
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stone
01/23/18 8:46:43 AM
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You're aware that posting a moderation usually gets you moderated for the same thing again, right?
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Laserion
01/23/18 8:47:59 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
"You're an idiot" vs "You're behaving like an idiot."

Is this an effective loophole?

No. You are still calling him an idiot, or comparing him to one.
"You are doing/saying idiotic things" is talking about the actions.
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Baha05
01/23/18 8:50:04 AM
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So then since we are going to enforce these rules on calling people trolls are we also going to get people that call others fanboys, or shills in an insulting manner? Or any of the stupid nicknames used to insult people like Nintendrone, Xbots, or Sony Ponies?

Hell on top of that would using the @ notification system to call out and pester people be considered trolling or are we just going to still focus on insults only?
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HypnoCoosh
01/23/18 8:57:34 AM
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Laserion posted...
"Don't hate the sinner, hate the sin."
In this case it means:
Don't say "You're a troll."
Say "You are trolling."
See? The focus is on the action, not the user.


nailed it.

The new system is much better.
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/23/18 8:57:50 AM
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JustMonika posted...
lilORANG posted...
what if you call someone a troll, and then that person gets modded for trolling?

You're implying trolls ever get modded for trolling here.

It's super rare nowadays, honestly.

And even with my mod history, I still get NKLs sometimes lmao
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asagi_mode_gone
01/23/18 9:09:20 AM
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Now if only mods actually enforced the rules across the board to everyone.

Or responded to disputes in a timely manner. 48+ hours after disputing and still no response.

Basically they either need more mods to enforce the stricter TOS or make mods have to actually prioritize their mod duties.
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/23/18 9:28:15 AM
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asagi_mode_gone posted...
Now if only mods actually enforced the rules across the board to everyone.

yeah thats never gonna happen
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Veggeta_MAX
01/23/18 9:33:49 AM
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Thanks now no one can call me a troll ever again.
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Laserion
01/23/18 11:13:43 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
Thanks now no one can call me a troll ever again.


We can still say that you perform the action of trolling.
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yoloyoloswagEMP
01/23/18 11:14:23 AM
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Laserion posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Thanks now no one can call me a troll ever again.


We can still say that you perform the action of trolling.

That's implying that he's a troll tho.

That's flaming. The insult is still there.
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