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s0nicfan 01/26/18 3:24:24 PM #51:	COVxy posted... s0nicfan posted... how to get what you want out of them through basic behavioral psychology How's that? As the age old adage goes: "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar" EDIT: Also known as positive reinforcement (versus negative reinforcement) --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894855194] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>how to get what you want out of them through basic behavioral psychology</quote> How's that?</quote> As the age old adage goes: "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar" EDIT: Also known as positive reinforcement (versus negative reinforcement)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DezDroppedFreak 01/26/18 3:26:46 PM #53:	s0nicfan posted... This is why Trump never apologizes. At this point, short of literally getting on his hands and knees and begging for forgiveness, nobody will be happy with the level of his apology, so he may as well say "fuck it" and just move on. "I'll apologize if that's what you want I guess" isn't an apology. --- DezCaughtIt AKA freakofnature30 Brockhampton makes me *saturate* <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:894855325] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>This is why Trump never apologizes. At this point, short of literally getting on his hands and knees and begging for forgiveness, nobody will be happy with the level of his apology, so he may as well say "fuck it" and just move on.</quote> "I'll apologize if that's what you want I guess" isn't an apology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 01/26/18 3:26:57 PM #54:	s0nicfan posted... shockthemonkey posted... s0nicfan posted... shockthemonkey posted... And now youre blaming Trumps childish behavior on CE Again: I'm explaining how you deal with it, because you can't change the person only how you deal with them. I'm also not defending his behavior, nor condoning it. You seem to be the one stuck on this idea that what I'm suggesting is a defending him, rather than telling you how to work around him. But again, I prefer the practical approach to dealing with reality, rather than going "lol he's a child" and then getting angry when he continues to do things I don't like. EDIT: But I get what you're trying to do. Since I support some of Trump's policies, I am therefore a "trump cultist" that has full faith in everything he does, and you desperately want some kind of "gotcha" moment where you reveal the grand truth of the fact that he's not infallible to me, because for some reason you think... what? This justifies all your political opinions or something? I dunno. We dont work with or around the president at all. We comment on a message board. We are not responsible for his behavior. He has no idea what were saying about him. Youre aware of that, right? But please keep telling us how laughing at him for apologizing like a schoolboy is going to affect his behavior. Its the funniest joke on CE right now. Nah, it's pretty clear you can't or don't want to extrapolate how you're reacting in this specific instance to a larger trend of how you treat others and how to get what you want out of them through basic behavioral psychology. If you think the points I'm making are literally restricted to dealing with only Trump or that the way people are acting here doesn't at all reflect how they act in real life then there's really no point. You seem fixated on thinking I'm trying to defend him rather than simply pointing out how the way you respond to this kind of behavior alters future behavior in others. If you want to get more out of life, and get better results from dealing with other people, consider following my advice. If not, that's fine too. There is a whole lot of pseudointellectual garbage in this post <cite>Axiom posted [p:894855344] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>And now youre blaming Trumps childish behavior on CE </quote> Again: I'm explaining how you deal with it, because you can't change the person only how you deal with them. I'm also not defending his behavior, nor condoning it. You seem to be the one stuck on this idea that what I'm suggesting is a defending him, rather than telling you how to work around him. But again, I prefer the practical approach to dealing with reality, rather than going "lol he's a child" and then getting angry when he continues to do things I don't like. EDIT: But I get what you're trying to do. Since I support some of Trump's policies, I am therefore a "trump cultist" that has full faith in everything he does, and you desperately want some kind of "gotcha" moment where you reveal the grand truth of the fact that he's not infallible to me, because for some reason you think... what? This justifies all your political opinions or something? I dunno.</quote> We dont work with or around the president at all. We comment on a message board. We are not responsible for his behavior. He has no idea what were saying about him. Youre aware of that, right? But please keep telling us how laughing at him for apologizing like a schoolboy is going to affect his behavior. Its the funniest joke on CE right now.</quote> Nah, it's pretty clear you can't or don't want to extrapolate how you're reacting in this specific instance to a larger trend of how you treat others and how to get what you want out of them through basic behavioral psychology. If you think the points I'm making are literally restricted to dealing with only Trump or that the way people are acting here doesn't at all reflect how they act in real life then there's really no point. You seem fixated on thinking I'm trying to defend him rather than simply pointing out how the way you respond to this kind of behavior alters future behavior in others. If you want to get more out of life, and get better results from dealing with other people, consider following my advice. If not, that's fine too.</quote> There is a whole lot of pseudointellectual garbage in this post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/26/18 3:27:20 PM #55:	s0nicfan posted... As the age old adage goes: "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar" EDIT: Also known as positive reinforcement (versus negative reinforcement) I mean, both work to shape behavior. Both work quite well. Seems like you were just trying to inject authority into your post. (you were also looking for the word punishment, not negative reinforcement) --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:894855362] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>As the age old adage goes: "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar" EDIT: Also known as positive reinforcement (versus negative reinforcement)</quote> I mean, both work to shape behavior. Both work quite well. Seems like you were just trying to inject authority into your post. (you were also looking for the word punishment, not negative reinforcement)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/26/18 3:27:55 PM #56:	shockthemonkey posted... Damn man, how far off topic do you have to get in order to defend the president acting like a child? Didn't we already cover this? s0nicfan posted... A_Good_Boy posted... You're literally condoning that the world bends over and regards Trump as if he was a toddler, and you don't see anything concerning about that. Just lol I'm not condoning his behavior. I'm explaining it, and explaining how you deal with it. People seem stunningly unable to understand the difference between those things. Reality is reality, and you can either work around it, or throw a bitch fit because it isn't the way you want. I prefer the former. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894855395] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Damn man, how far off topic do you have to get in order to defend the president acting like a child?</quote> Didn't we already cover this? <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>You're literally condoning that the world bends over and regards Trump as if he was a toddler, and you don't see anything concerning about that. Just lol</quote> I'm not condoning his behavior. I'm explaining it, and explaining how you deal with it. People seem stunningly unable to understand the difference between those things. Reality is reality, and you can either work around it, or throw a bitch fit because it isn't the way you want. I prefer the former.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 01/26/18 3:29:31 PM #58:	COVxy posted... s0nicfan posted... As the age old adage goes: "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar" EDIT: Also known as positive reinforcement (versus negative reinforcement) I mean, both work to shape behavior. Both work quite well. Seems like you were just trying to inject authority into your post. I mean, there's plenty of studies that show that positive reinforcement produces far better results than negative reinforcement. I used the appropriate words and I used them because I believe they were correct. I'm not a social psychologist, though, so I apologize if it came off as such. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894855486] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>As the age old adage goes: "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar" EDIT: Also known as positive reinforcement (versus negative reinforcement)</quote> I mean, both work to shape behavior. Both work quite well. Seems like you were just trying to inject authority into your post.</quote> I mean, there's plenty of studies that show that positive reinforcement produces far better results than negative reinforcement. I used the appropriate words and I used them because I believe they were correct. I'm not a social psychologist, though, so I apologize if it came off as such.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NOM 01/26/18 3:30:23 PM #59:	He shouldn't have apologized tbh --- I dream broken dreams I make them come true <cite>NOM posted [p:894855538] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote>He shouldn't have apologized tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/26/18 3:31:30 PM #60:	shockthemonkey posted... Im not defending him, Im just going to great lengths to blame his behavior on anything other than his own choices no dont worry I believe you You seem to be confusing me telling people how to get less of said behavior from him with explaining what caused the behavior in the first place. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894855600] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Im not defending him, Im just going to great lengths to blame his behavior on anything other than his own choices no dont worry I believe you</quote> You seem to be confusing me telling people how to get less of said behavior from him with explaining what caused the behavior in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/26/18 3:32:02 PM #61:	s0nicfan posted... I mean, there's plenty of studies that show that positive reinforcement produces far better results than negative reinforcement. As noted above, you're using the word negative reinforcement when you mean positive punishment. But none-the-less, the advice is usually that you can shape any behavior you want if you are clever enough with just positive reinforcement, so there's no reason to use punishment (an argument for humane training), not that one is more effective than the other. I mean, just look at how effective fear conditioning is (though, this is sort of mixing systems, but it gets the point across). A single shock trial will modify behavior for weeks. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:894855628] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, there's plenty of studies that show that positive reinforcement produces far better results than negative reinforcement. </quote> As noted above, you're using the word negative reinforcement when you mean positive punishment. But none-the-less, the advice is usually that you can shape any behavior you want if you are clever enough with just positive reinforcement, so there's no reason to use punishment (an argument for humane training), not that one is more effective than the other. I mean, just look at how effective fear conditioning is (though, this is sort of mixing systems, but it gets the point across). A single shock trial will modify behavior for weeks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 01/26/18 3:35:28 PM #62:	A grown ass man needs positive reinforcement to act like an adult (let alone a president) and if you want me to do that is a valid apology that shouldnt be criticized. Yea this is CE. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:894855835] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote>A grown ass man needs positive reinforcement to act like an adult (let alone a president) and if you want me to do that is a valid apology that shouldnt be criticized. Yea this is CE.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 01/26/18 3:35:46 PM #64:	I'm not sure what positive reinforcement one could even give here, or why he should be coddled like a child to protect his ego rather than treated like an adult and just told honestly his apology was shit. That seems more respectful, rather than lying to him and acting like he is a child who can't take criticism --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:894855854] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure what positive reinforcement one could even give here, or why he should be coddled like a child to protect his ego rather than treated like an adult and just told honestly his apology was shit. That seems more respectful, rather than lying to him and acting like he is a child who can't take criticism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/26/18 3:36:43 PM #65:	COVxy posted... s0nicfan posted... I mean, there's plenty of studies that show that positive reinforcement produces far better results than negative reinforcement. As noted above, you're using the word negative reinforcement when you mean punishment. But none-the-less, the advice is usually that you can shape any behavior you want if you are clever enough with just positive reinforcement, so there's no reason to use punishment (an argument for humane training), not that one is more effective than the other. I mean, just look at how effective fear conditioning is (though, this is sort of mixing systems, but it gets the point across). A single shock trial will modify behavior for weeks. The problem with shock trials is it produces all sorts of nasty side-effects. The same with negative reinforcement: It can force the results you want in specific instances but make general cooperation harder, especially if said person needs to be mentally engaged with the activity. You don't get the best out of people across the board with that sort of behavior. Also, negative reinforcement is pretty much the same as punishment. You create an aversion to a behavior by associating it with something bad. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894855904] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, there's plenty of studies that show that positive reinforcement produces far better results than negative reinforcement. </quote> As noted above, you're using the word negative reinforcement when you mean punishment. But none-the-less, the advice is usually that you can shape any behavior you want if you are clever enough with just positive reinforcement, so there's no reason to use punishment (an argument for humane training), not that one is more effective than the other. I mean, just look at how effective fear conditioning is (though, this is sort of mixing systems, but it gets the point across). A single shock trial will modify behavior for weeks.</quote> The problem with shock trials is it produces all sorts of nasty side-effects. The same with negative reinforcement: It can force the results you want in specific instances but make general cooperation harder, especially if said person needs to be mentally engaged with the activity. You don't get the best out of people across the board with that sort of behavior. Also, negative reinforcement is pretty much the same as punishment. You create an aversion to a behavior by associating it with something bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/26/18 3:38:48 PM #66:	TheVipaGTS posted... A grown ass man needs positive reinforcement to act like an adult (let alone a president) and if you want me to do that is a valid apology that shouldnt be criticized. Yea this is CE. Positive reinforcement is a technique that applies to all ages. It works on a child. It also works when trying to get a promotion, or if you've got an adversarial relationship with a customer or boss. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894856020] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>A grown ass man needs positive reinforcement to act like an adult (let alone a president) and if you want me to do that is a valid apology that shouldnt be criticized. Yea this is CE.</quote> Positive reinforcement is a technique that applies to all ages. It works on a child. It also works when trying to get a promotion, or if you've got an adversarial relationship with a customer or boss.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 01/26/18 3:40:27 PM #67:	s0nicfan posted... TheVipaGTS posted... A grown ass man needs positive reinforcement to act like an adult (let alone a president) and if you want me to do that is a valid apology that shouldnt be criticized. Yea this is CE. Positive reinforcement is a technique that applies to all ages. It works on a child. It also works when trying to get a promotion, or if you've got an adversarial relationship with a customer or boss. Right. It works on different levels. Calling out the president for a shit apology isnt that. He isnt a 5 year old who needs to be positively told why his apology is wrong or not an apology at all. Hes a grown man. Thats something he should already know. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:894856128] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>A grown ass man needs positive reinforcement to act like an adult (let alone a president) and if you want me to do that is a valid apology that shouldnt be criticized. Yea this is CE.</quote> Positive reinforcement is a technique that applies to all ages. It works on a child. It also works when trying to get a promotion, or if you've got an adversarial relationship with a customer or boss.</quote> Right. It works on different levels. Calling out the president for a shit apology isnt that. He isnt a 5 year old who needs to be positively told why his apology is wrong or not an apology at all. Hes a grown man. Thats something he should already know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/26/18 3:40:49 PM #68:	s0nicfan posted... Also, negative reinforcement is pretty much the same as punishment. You create an aversion to a behavior by associating it with something bad. No, you've confused your terminology. Positive and negative doesn't refer to the valence, it refers to the presence or absence of something. Reinforcement vs punishment refers to the change in behavior, with reinforcement you are always increasing the probability of a behavior, and with punishment you are decreasing the probability of behavior. Negative reinforcement, for example, would be taking away a shock when an animal performs a behavior. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:894856157] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Also, negative reinforcement is pretty much the same as punishment. You create an aversion to a behavior by associating it with something bad.</quote> No, you've confused your terminology. Positive and negative doesn't refer to the valence, it refers to the presence or absence of something. Reinforcement vs punishment refers to the change in behavior, with reinforcement you are always increasing the probability of a behavior, and with punishment you are decreasing the probability of behavior. Negative reinforcement, for example, would be taking away a shock when an animal performs a behavior.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/26/18 3:45:23 PM #69:	COVxy posted... s0nicfan posted... Also, negative reinforcement is pretty much the same as punishment. You create an aversion to a behavior by associating it with something bad. No, you've confused your terminology. Positive and negative doesn't refer to the valence, it refers to the presence or absence of something. Reinforcement vs punishment refers to the change in behavior, with reinforcement you are always increasing the probability of a behavior, and with punishment you are decreasing the probability of behavior. Negative reinforcement, for example, would be taking away a shock when an animal performs a behavior. Ah yea you're right I was confusing the two. My bad. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894856441] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Also, negative reinforcement is pretty much the same as punishment. You create an aversion to a behavior by associating it with something bad.</quote> No, you've confused your terminology. Positive and negative doesn't refer to the valence, it refers to the presence or absence of something. Reinforcement vs punishment refers to the change in behavior, with reinforcement you are always increasing the probability of a behavior, and with punishment you are decreasing the probability of behavior. Negative reinforcement, for example, would be taking away a shock when an animal performs a behavior.</quote> Ah yea you're right I was confusing the two. My bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 01/26/18 3:48:23 PM #70:	M_Live posted... I think I missed the apology as I was reading through this This. I don't see why some are trying so hard to make what he said positive. Like, let's hold our president to a higher standard. It was a shitty apology. The fact that he's not used to apologizing doesn't change that. Him not wanting to apologizing anymore because people wont appreciate it is a weak argument and shows a lack of agency on his part. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:894856633] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>M_Live posted...</cite> <quote>I think I missed the apology as I was reading through this</quote> This. I don't see why some are trying so hard to make what he said positive. Like, let's hold our president to a higher standard. It was a shitty apology. The fact that he's not used to apologizing doesn't change that. Him not wanting to apologizing anymore because people wont appreciate it is a weak argument and shows a lack of agency on his part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BruceWayneJr 01/26/18 4:32:57 PM #71:	UnfairRepresent posted... IMO it takes a real man to apologize Too bad that's not what happened here. Trump continues to be the classless, racist fuck he always was. This half-ass "apology" may work for you, but it won't work for the majority of humans who have learned that his word are worthless and he's liable to say/do the complete opposite within a short period of time. Give the piece of shit credit if you want to; he's still a piece of shit. --- He might be the president, but it's not his country. <cite>BruceWayneJr posted [p:894859143] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> IMO it takes a real man to apologize</quote> Too bad that's not what happened here. Trump continues to be the classless, racist fuck he always was. This half-ass "apology" may work for you, but it won't work for the majority of humans who have learned that his word are worthless and he's liable to say/do the complete opposite within a short period of time. Give the piece of shit credit if you want to; he's still a piece of shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/26/18 4:46:45 PM #72:	Yeah this really goes a long way to explaining why a lot of people don't apologize. Guys who love to be outraged refuse to "accept" it because he hasn't "apologized correctly" It's crazy --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:894859848] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote>Yeah this really goes a long way to explaining why a lot of people don't apologize. Guys who love to be outraged refuse to "accept" it because he hasn't "apologized correctly" It's crazy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 01/26/18 6:53:17 PM #73:	Because it is a non apology. He's not apologised for the spreading of their fake news, claims to have no idea who they are and is only saying sorry because others want it. Not that he fucked up and spread a hate groups fake news --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:894867043] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote>Because it is a non apology. He's not apologised for the spreading of their fake news, claims to have no idea who they are and is only saying sorry because others want it. Not that he fucked up and spread a hate groups fake news</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/26/18 6:59:08 PM #74:	Funkydog posted... Because it is a non apology. Funkydog posted... is only saying sorry UnfairRepresent posted... Guys who love to be outraged refuse to "accept" it because he hasn't "apologized correctly" --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:894867380] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Because it is a non apology.</quote> <cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>is only saying sorry</quote> <cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> Guys who love to be outraged refuse to "accept" it because he hasn't "apologized correctly" </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 01/26/18 6:59:56 PM #75:	You are just trying to keep your topic alive. Stop it. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:894867419] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote>You are just trying to keep your topic alive. Stop it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 01/26/18 7:02:34 PM #76:	Yeah, this is a pointless argument. No point continuing it as no ones gonna change their mind . --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:894867571] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, this is a pointless argument. No point continuing it as no ones gonna change their mind .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/26/18 7:04:45 PM #77:	COVxy posted... You are just trying to keep your topic alive. Stop it. The topic is like 3 hours old. On the front page of CE And I've barely posted in it... So.... No. Funkydog posted... Yeah, this is a pointless argument. No point continuing it as no ones gonna change their mind . The only one who seems to be unwilling to open their mind is you and maybe your friends. Put it another way, is there any apology Trump could have given that you believe you would have accepted? Really think on that. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:894867702] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>You are just trying to keep your topic alive. Stop it.</quote> The topic is like 3 hours old. On the front page of CE And I've barely posted in it... So.... No. <cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, this is a pointless argument. No point continuing it as no ones gonna change their mind .</quote> The only one who seems to be unwilling to open their mind is you and maybe your friends. Put it another way, is there any apology Trump could have given that you believe you would have accepted? Really think on that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 01/26/18 7:06:21 PM #78:	COVxy posted... You are just trying to keep your topic alive. Stop it. People should really treat UR topics like the TC doesn't even exist <cite>Axiom posted [p:894867787] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>You are just trying to keep your topic alive. Stop it.</quote> People should really treat UR topics like the TC doesn't even exist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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metralo 01/26/18 7:08:32 PM #80:	UnfairRepresent posted... Put it another way, is there any apology Trump could have given that you believe you would have accepted? yes literally almost anything other than "do you want me to apologize? ok, sorry" --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg <cite>metralo posted [p:894867904] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> Put it another way, is there any apology Trump could have given that you believe you would have accepted? </quote> yes literally almost anything other than "do you want me to apologize? ok, sorry"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 01/26/18 7:08:52 PM #81:	Axiom posted... COVxy posted... You are just trying to keep your topic alive. Stop it. People should really treat UR topics like the TC doesn't even exist Most people already do. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:894867920] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote> You are just trying to keep your topic alive. Stop it.</quote> People should really treat UR topics like the TC doesn't even exist</quote> Most people already do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/26/18 7:15:16 PM #82:	shockthemonkey posted... I shouldnt have retweeted videos from those racists, and Im sorry that I did it, would have been fine. Like how a normal adult apologizes. Wouldn't have been accepted because he didn't apologize for the content of the videos. As seen in this topic, people rejected it for that reason Also wouldn't have been accepted because "It's blatantly insincere, we need a sincere apology" as seen in this topic, people rejected it for that reason. I'm fairly confident that in an alternate universe which is identical except Trump did say that and also Chester from Lincoln Park was still alive, you would still be saying that you reject his apology for different reasons. The very notion itself of rejecting a man's apology for being "incorrect" is kinda weird. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:894868249] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>I shouldnt have retweeted videos from those racists, and Im sorry that I did it, would have been fine. Like how a normal adult apologizes.</quote> Wouldn't have been accepted because he didn't apologize for the content of the videos. As seen in this topic, people rejected it for that reason Also wouldn't have been accepted because "It's blatantly insincere, we need a sincere apology" as seen in this topic, people rejected it for that reason. I'm fairly confident that in an alternate universe which is identical except Trump did say that and also Chester from Lincoln Park was still alive, you would still be saying that you reject his apology for different reasons. The very notion itself of rejecting a man's apology for being "incorrect" is kinda weird.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 01/26/18 7:17:14 PM #83:	UnfairRepresent posted... The very notion itself of rejecting a man's apology for being "incorrect" is kinda weird. no its not its been around forever if you spent more time interacting with people irl instead of making shit clickbait topics and doing weird things like going on triads about sigless users you'd understand that fake apologies happen often and they're easy to point ouit --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg <cite>metralo posted [p:894868336] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> The very notion itself of rejecting a man's apology for being "incorrect" is kinda weird.</quote> no its not its been around forever if you spent more time interacting with people irl instead of making shit clickbait topics and doing weird things like going on triads about sigless users you'd understand that fake apologies happen often and they're easy to point ouit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/26/18 7:20:09 PM #84:	^ And my point is proven. "The apology is fake!" --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:894868505] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote>^ And my point is proven. "The apology is fake!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 01/26/18 7:26:12 PM #85:	Liberals are very accepting of people and embraces all the different ways people express themselves. but if you dont express your apology the way liberals want you to express it, then it must be a fake apology --- I don't know my gimmick <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:894868816] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote>Liberals are very accepting of people and embraces all the different ways people express themselves. but if you dont express your apology the way liberals want you to express it, then it must be a fake apology</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 01/26/18 7:49:17 PM #87:	lubmelubyou posted... He should never have apologised. He did nothing wrong. It doesn't matter if you retweet a message from a racist group, as long as that message is factually correct. The pictures were legit. He tweeted 3 videos, 2 of them were literally fake news so if there was anything he should've apologized it was that he posted fake news. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:894870126] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>lubmelubyou posted...</cite> <quote>He should never have apologised. He did nothing wrong. It doesn't matter if you retweet a message from a racist group, as long as that message is factually correct. The pictures were legit.</quote> He tweeted 3 videos, 2 of them were literally fake news so if there was anything he should've apologized it was that he posted fake news.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waluigi7 01/27/18 2:13:35 AM #88:	That 'positive reinforcement' defense has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've seen on this board. --- Gonna go out on a limb and guess that you are a trump supporter -UnfairRepresent <cite>Waluigi7 posted [p:894888889] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote>That 'positive reinforcement' defense has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've seen on this board.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 01/27/18 2:23:34 AM #90:	Bullet_Wing posted... Waluigi7 posted... That 'positive reinforcement' defense has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've seen on this board. It really is, holy shit. "Trump is a racist piece of shit manchild because you guys treat him like a racist piece of shit manchild" LMFAO s0nicfan posted... I'm not condoning his behavior. I'm explaining it, and explaining how you deal with it. People seem stunningly unable to understand the difference between those things. Reality is reality, and you can either work around it, or throw a bitch fit because it isn't the way you want. I prefer the former. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894889234] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Waluigi7 posted...</cite> <quote>That 'positive reinforcement' defense has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've seen on this board.</quote> It really is, holy shit. "Trump is a racist piece of shit manchild because you guys treat him like a racist piece of shit manchild" LMFAO</quote> <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> I'm not condoning his behavior. I'm explaining it, and explaining how you deal with it. People seem stunningly unable to understand the difference between those things. Reality is reality, and you can either work around it, or throw a bitch fit because it isn't the way you want. I prefer the former.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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0AbsoluteZero0 01/27/18 2:26:00 AM #92:	Good lord, the lame excuses and deflection in this topic are embarrassing even by @s0nicfan standards Once a cultist always a cultist, I guess --- -The Admirable <cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted [p:894889321] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote>Good lord, the lame excuses and deflection in this topic are embarrassing even by @s0nicfan standards Once a cultist always a cultist, I guess</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 01/27/18 2:26:45 AM #93:	UnfairRepresent posted... Guys who love to be outraged refuse to "accept" it because he hasn't "apologized correctly" It's crazy I dont believe for one second that anyone, including the CEmen here, actually want an apology from Trump or any other celebrity who is controversial. It does not matter what kind of apology he makes. Everyone has already made up their minds about him. All you can do now, practically-speaking, is ride it out and wait for the next election. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:894889351] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Guys who love to be outraged refuse to "accept" it because he hasn't "apologized correctly" It's crazy</quote> I dont believe for one second that anyone, including the CEmen here, actually want an apology from Trump or any other celebrity who is controversial. It does not matter what kind of apology he makes. Everyone has already made up their minds about him. All you can do now, practically-speaking, is ride it out and wait for the next election.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/27/18 2:27:34 AM #94:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Good lord, the lame excuses and deflection in this topic are embarrassing even by @s0nicfan standards Once a cultist always a cultist, I guess I mean, I get that you're a gimmick account, but if you actually read the topic you'd see that I'm not defending his actions at any point. It's a shitty non-apology. I was simply pointing out that if you don't like shitty non-apologizes, you don't get less by complaining about them. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894889393] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote>Good lord, the lame excuses and deflection in this topic are embarrassing even by @s0nicfan standards Once a cultist always a cultist, I guess</quote> I mean, I get that you're a gimmick account, but if you actually read the topic you'd see that I'm not defending his actions at any point. It's a shitty non-apology. I was simply pointing out that if you don't like shitty non-apologizes, you don't get less by complaining about them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/27/18 3:22:52 AM #95:	shockthemonkey posted... UnfairRepresent posted... shockthemonkey posted... I shouldnt have retweeted videos from those racists, and Im sorry that I did it, would have been fine. Like how a normal adult apologizes. Wouldn't have been accepted because he didn't apologize for the content of the videos. As seen in this topic, people rejected it for that reason Also wouldn't have been accepted because "It's blatantly insincere, we need a sincere apology" as seen in this topic, people rejected it for that reason. I'm fairly confident that in an alternate universe which is identical except Trump did say that and also Chester from Lincoln Park was still alive, you would still be saying that you reject his apology for different reasons. The very notion itself of rejecting a man's apology for being "incorrect" is kinda weird. lmao Im not a contrarian but let me put words in your mouth in order to be a contrarian I didn't put words in your mouth --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:894890958] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>I shouldnt have retweeted videos from those racists, and Im sorry that I did it, would have been fine. Like how a normal adult apologizes.</quote> Wouldn't have been accepted because he didn't apologize for the content of the videos. As seen in this topic, people rejected it for that reason Also wouldn't have been accepted because "It's blatantly insincere, we need a sincere apology" as seen in this topic, people rejected it for that reason. I'm fairly confident that in an alternate universe which is identical except Trump did say that and also Chester from Lincoln Park was still alive, you would still be saying that you reject his apology for different reasons. The very notion itself of rejecting a man's apology for being "incorrect" is kinda weird.</quote> lmao Im not a contrarian but let me put words in your mouth in order to be a contrarian</quote> I didn't put words in your mouth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 01/27/18 4:06:52 AM #96:	lubmelubyou posted... He should never have apologised. He did nothing wrong. It doesn't matter if you retweet a message from a racist group, as long as that message is factually correct. The pictures were legit. But they weren't. The pictures were real, but had nothing to do with the story that accompanied them. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:894891949] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>lubmelubyou posted...</cite> <quote>He should never have apologised. He did nothing wrong. It doesn't matter if you retweet a message from a racist group, as long as that message is factually correct. The pictures were legit.</quote> But they weren't. The pictures were real, but had nothing to do with the story that accompanied them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/27/18 6:29:47 AM #97:	loafy013 posted... lubmelubyou posted... He should never have apologised. He did nothing wrong. It doesn't matter if you retweet a message from a racist group, as long as that message is factually correct. The pictures were legit. But they weren't. The pictures were real, but had nothing to do with the story that accompanied them. Wasn't 1 or the photos fake? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:894894803] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>loafy013 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lubmelubyou posted...</cite> <quote>He should never have apologised. He did nothing wrong. It doesn't matter if you retweet a message from a racist group, as long as that message is factually correct. The pictures were legit.</quote> But they weren't. The pictures were real, but had nothing to do with the story that accompanied them.</quote> Wasn't 1 or the photos fake?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 01/27/18 6:33:11 AM #98:	One of them had zero to do with Islam. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:894894869] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote>One of them had zero to do with Islam.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 01/27/18 6:42:25 AM #99:	Monocles pops off my face as I faint --- Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhauer. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:894895055] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote>Monocles pops off my face as I faint</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/28/18 3:53:15 AM #100:	spikethedevil posted... One of them had zero to do with Islam. Yes --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:894951798] in US Preside... [t:76245502]...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote>One of them had zero to do with Islam.</quote> Yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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