Current Events > If a socialist professor actually believed their philosophy...

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Wouldnt they be teaching for free?

Do you know how socialism works? Dont answer, its clear you dont.
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Socialism's whole shtick is not "give your labor away for free." It's basically the opposite
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Socialism is when the government does stuff and the more stuff the government does, the more Socalister it is.
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this is like some stupid facebook fearmongering level shit
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I had a socialist professor once. I trained it up to level 69 and it evolved into a communist professor. It was much more powerful, but sometimes it didn't listen to me because back then, I didn't have that one gym badge I needed.
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Socialism supporters in Western countries don't genuinely believe that things should be free; just that they should be able to force someone else to pay for things they want instead of paying for it themself.
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shockthemonkey posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Socialism supporters in Western countries don't genuinely believe that things should be free; just that they should be able to force someone else to pay for things they want instead of paying for it themself.

Account made in Jan 2018

"Well I can't find any flaw in your argument BUT OOH LOOK YOUR ACCOUNT ISN'T VERY OLD, GUESS I WIN."
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HydroCannabinol posted...

Do you know how socialism works?

CrimsonRage posted...

you didn't think this thru did you tc

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Ah, socialism. A wonderful fairytale for college aged individuals who genuinely believe they can make a difference in the world.

Every decade has something for the young folk to latch onto.
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DarkTransient posted...

just that they should be able to force someone else to pay for things they want instead of paying for it themself.

It's not "someone else", it's everyone. The idea behind it is in industries where everyone putting a little amount into the pot subsidizes the cost for everyone to utilize.

Health care is a great example. Generally, insurance needs a pool of healthy people to offset the cost of people who actually use health care. But what happens when health insurance isn't mandatory in a country where it is against the law to not provide life saving care regardless of the ability to pay? Joe Shmoe decides it's not worth his money and spends his paycheck on booze and cigarettes instead. He gets into a severe car accident and a $50,000 trauma activation and $100,000 ICU stay later, he declares bankruptcy and the hospital swallows the cost.

The hospital, not wanting to go out of business, bills insurance more on everyone else's care to stay afloat. Insurance, being a private company interested in making a profit, says "what the fuck, it's not my fault your other guy didn't pay." Now you have this hodgepodge mess where insurance subsidizes that care to a degree, but then premiums go up for everyone. Now anyone who wants health insurance/healthcare has to pay more because some asshole wasn't responsible with his money.

It's society saying, "you should be free to do as you will, but if you're too fucking stupid to make the wise financial call, we'll make it for you." The justification is that really expensive things are made more expensive by a small percentage of people who make it worse for the rest. It's why car insurance became mandatory too. So it's not so much about one's freedom as it is them not interfering with the societal cost by making their "wrong" decision.

Same thing with college education. Subsidize the cost with everyone, so it barely costs anything to everyone, but then anyone going through it will inevitably secure higher paying jobs, which are taxed more, and feeds more into the system. If healthy, the people that utilize the "free stuff" aren't bogged down and instead of becoming drains to society are able to otherwise meet their potential and contribute more in taxes.

But since people take issue with someone saying what is and isn't a smart purchase, and also people don't like someone else getting a "free lunch" if they don't utilize it, they'd rather not anyone be able to.

I'm not saying it'd be a better system, since there are always flaws with implementation versus theory, but at least get it right.
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CaptainCrunch posted...

Ah, socialism. A wonderful fairytale for college aged individuals who genuinely believe they can make a difference in the world.

And implemented in many developed nations across the world. Personally, I don't think it'll ever work in the U.S. for cultural reasons, but thinking it is any different from the rationale that was made for making car insurance mandatory is ill-informed. It's just applying that to other industries that don't really fit a commodity-consumer market very well like healthcare and education. The rest of the market and society is very much capitalist.
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Antifar posted...

Socialism's whole shtick is not "give your labor away for free." It's basically the opposite

Actually, it is, since property isn't a thing.
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CaptainCrunch posted...

Ah, socialism. A wonderful fairytale for college aged individuals who genuinely believe they can make a difference in the world.

Every decade has something for the young folk to latch onto.

And places like Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Belgium, The Netherlands, Switzerland, Luxembourg, and Germany. You know, first world countries worth living in.
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