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A_Good_Boy 01/29/18 10:39:57 PM #103:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Darmik posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... I'm sure they can give a lot of fascinating insight about their journey to get their award and the trials and tribulations they faced to achieve what they did. This is often political though? No? Even using a really broad definition of "political" I still can't see what Donald Trump has to do with Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick Lamar's music has a political and racial slant to it. If you can't see why he'd comment on Trump then you're doing your best not to understand the music you're listening to. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:895077004] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sure they can give a lot of fascinating insight about their journey to get their award and the trials and tribulations they faced to achieve what they did.</quote> This is often political though?</quote> No? Even using a really broad definition of "political" I still can't see what Donald Trump has to do with Kendrick Lamar.</quote> Kendrick Lamar's music has a political and racial slant to it. If you can't see why he'd comment on Trump then you're doing your best not to understand the music you're listening to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 01/29/18 10:44:04 PM #104:	Darmik posted... Kesha's trials and tribulations aren't political? Who are you kidding? No. Losing a court case because your claims are backed by zero evidence is just the law functioning as intended. That's hardly political. A_Good_Boy posted... Kendrick Lamar's music has a political and racial slant to it. Is it backed up with any special knowledge or experience with politics though? If so then fair enough, but if not then he's just another TDS case with a big megaphone. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:895077265] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Kesha's trials and tribulations aren't political? Who are you kidding?</quote> No. Losing a court case because your claims are backed by zero evidence is just the law functioning as intended. That's hardly political. <cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>Kendrick Lamar's music has a political and racial slant to it. </quote> Is it backed up with any special knowledge or experience with politics though? If so then fair enough, but if not then he's just another TDS case with a big megaphone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 01/29/18 10:49:23 PM #105:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Is it backed up with any special knowledge or experience with politics though? If so then fair enough, but if not then he's just another TDS case with a big megaphone. Is this supposed to be some sort of meaningful qualifier in a country where the president has a star on the Walk of Fame? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:895077633] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Is it backed up with any special knowledge or experience with politics though? If so then fair enough, but if not then he's just another TDS case with a big megaphone. </quote> Is this supposed to be some sort of meaningful qualifier in a country where the president has a star on the Walk of Fame?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 01/29/18 10:49:59 PM #106:	Commenting on political issues, regardless of "qualifications," counts as making something "political." <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:895077674] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>Commenting on political issues, regardless of "qualifications," counts as making something "political."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/29/18 10:51:02 PM #107:	Sephiroth1288 posted... No. Losing a court case because your claims are backed by zero evidence is just the law functioning as intended. That's hardly political. So Kesha's speech isn't political to you? But making fun of a trump tweet is super political taking things too far? Just checking I'm getting this right --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:895077761] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>No. Losing a court case because your claims are backed by zero evidence is just the law functioning as intended. That's hardly political.</quote> So Kesha's speech isn't political to you? But making fun of a trump tweet is super political taking things too far? Just checking I'm getting this right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 01/29/18 11:02:45 PM #108:	Darmik posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... No. Losing a court case because your claims are backed by zero evidence is just the law functioning as intended. That's hardly political. So Kesha's speech isn't political to you? But making fun of a trump tweet is super political taking things too far? Just checking I'm getting this right Had to look up what you're talking about because I honestly didn't realize that was Kesha. She really packed on the pounds and I didn't recognize her. Anyway, at least the "time's up" thing is actually relevant to the music industry since sexual predators are rampant in it. You know what really isn't relevant to music at all though? Immigration reform. Idgaf how many kids Bono hugged in 3rd world countries; it's not a defense of immigration quotas and lotteries. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:895078473] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>No. Losing a court case because your claims are backed by zero evidence is just the law functioning as intended. That's hardly political.</quote> So Kesha's speech isn't political to you? But making fun of a trump tweet is super political taking things too far? Just checking I'm getting this right</quote> Had to look up what you're talking about because I honestly didn't realize that was Kesha. She really packed on the pounds and I didn't recognize her. Anyway, at least the "time's up" thing is actually relevant to the music industry since sexual predators are rampant in it. You know what really isn't relevant to music at all though? Immigration reform. Idgaf how many kids Bono hugged in 3rd world countries; it's not a defense of immigration quotas and lotteries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/29/18 11:07:37 PM #109:	Camila Cabello introduced U2's next performance, but not before making a plea for young immigrants. Cabello talked about her own experience. "We remember that this country was built by dreams, for dreams, chasing the American dream," she said. "My parents brought me to this country with nothing in their pockets but hope. They showed me what it means to work twice as hard, and never give up." Cabello continued, "I'm a proud Cuban-Mexican immigrant born in eastern Havana, standing in front of you on the Grammys stage in New York City and all I know is just like dreams, these kids can't be forgotten and are worth fighting for." Sounds relevant to me. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:895078784] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><quote>Camila Cabello introduced U2's next performance, but not before making a plea for young immigrants. Cabello talked about her own experience. "We remember that this country was built by dreams, for dreams, chasing the American dream," she said. "My parents brought me to this country with nothing in their pockets but hope. They showed me what it means to work twice as hard, and never give up." Cabello continued, "I'm a proud Cuban-Mexican immigrant born in eastern Havana, standing in front of you on the Grammys stage in New York City and all I know is just like dreams, these kids can't be forgotten and are worth fighting for."</quote> Sounds relevant to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 01/29/18 11:14:47 PM #110:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Darmik posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... No. Losing a court case because your claims are backed by zero evidence is just the law functioning as intended. That's hardly political. So Kesha's speech isn't political to you? But making fun of a trump tweet is super political taking things too far? Just checking I'm getting this right Had to look up what you're talking about because I honestly didn't realize that was Kesha. She really packed on the pounds and I didn't recognize her. Anyway, at least the "time's up" thing is actually relevant to the music industry since sexual predators are rampant in it. You know what really isn't relevant to music at all though? Immigration reform. Idgaf how many kids Bono hugged in 3rd world countries; it's not a defense of immigration quotas and lotteries. There seems to be a pretty large number of musicians that are either immigrants or the children of immigrants. It makes a lot of sense why they'd comment on immigration issues. I don't know why you think they shouldn't talk about it when in this very topic you expect them to talk about their path to success. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:895079175] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>No. Losing a court case because your claims are backed by zero evidence is just the law functioning as intended. That's hardly political.</quote> So Kesha's speech isn't political to you? But making fun of a trump tweet is super political taking things too far? Just checking I'm getting this right</quote> Had to look up what you're talking about because I honestly didn't realize that was Kesha. She really packed on the pounds and I didn't recognize her. Anyway, at least the "time's up" thing is actually relevant to the music industry since sexual predators are rampant in it. You know what really isn't relevant to music at all though? Immigration reform. Idgaf how many kids Bono hugged in 3rd world countries; it's not a defense of immigration quotas and lotteries.</quote> There seems to be a pretty large number of musicians that are either immigrants or the children of immigrants. It makes a lot of sense why they'd comment on immigration issues. I don't know why you think they shouldn't talk about it when in this very topic you expect them to talk about their path to success.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 01/29/18 11:39:13 PM #111:	Because we all think our political opinions matter. --- I'm a chick <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:895080475] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>Because we all think our political opinions matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/29/18 11:56:51 PM #112:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Is it backed up with any special knowledge or experience with politics though? If so then fair enough, but if not then he's just another TDS case with a big megaphone. TIL you can only share political opinions in public if you have special knowledge or experience with politics. Mal has singlehandedly killed media and general society with a CE post. Pack it up, world. It sounds like you're just upset because the more popular opinions among the entertainment industry are left-wing and modern culture has made them easily distributed. You wouldn't be throwing a hissy fit if Trump praise was all over our media. All "I wish X would stop talking about politics or I wish politics were kept out of Y" means is "I disagree with the politics of X and Y and thus don't want them in my media". You're not being unique or insightful, just sharing a typical, annoying human opinion. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:895081381] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Is it backed up with any special knowledge or experience with politics though? If so then fair enough, but if not then he's just another TDS case with a big megaphone.</quote> TIL you can only share political opinions in public if you have special knowledge or experience with politics. Mal has singlehandedly killed media and general society with a CE post. Pack it up, world. It sounds like you're just upset because the more popular opinions among the entertainment industry are left-wing and modern culture has made them easily distributed. You wouldn't be throwing a hissy fit if Trump praise was all over our media. All "I wish X would stop talking about politics or I wish politics were kept out of Y" means is "I disagree with the politics of X and Y and thus don't want them in my media". You're not being unique or insightful, just sharing a typical, annoying human opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 01/30/18 4:19:01 PM #113:	the president has a on Hollywood's Walk of Fame. beat that, Obama! --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:895122788] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>the president has a on Hollywood's Walk of Fame. beat that, Obama!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 01/30/18 5:30:33 PM #114:	hockeybub89 posted... TIL you can only share political opinions in public if you have special knowledge or experience with politics. You can share your political opinions wherever you want. But doing it on a film/TV/music awards show makes you look like a gigantic tool. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:895127111] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>TIL you can only share political opinions in public if you have special knowledge or experience with politics.</quote> You can share your political opinions wherever you want. But doing it on a film/TV/music awards show makes you look like a gigantic tool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 01/30/18 5:50:00 PM #115:	Sephiroth1288 posted... You can share your political opinions wherever you want. But doing it on a film/TV/music awards show makes you look like a gigantic tool. You're bitching about something that has existed for hundreds of years in every single form of entertainment ever. It's far more likely this doesn't actually bother you and you're just always in a pissy mood and try to consistently get into arguments here. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:895128411] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>You can share your political opinions wherever you want. But doing it on a film/TV/music awards show makes you look like a gigantic tool.</quote> You're bitching about something that has existed for hundreds of years in every single form of entertainment ever. It's far more likely this doesn't actually bother you and you're just always in a pissy mood and try to consistently get into arguments here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 01/30/18 5:58:24 PM #116:	The Great Muta 22 posted... You're b**ing about something that has existed for hundreds of years in every single form of entertainment ever. Ok It still makes their opinions no more relevant than the guy who fixes your toilet's. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:895128994] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>You're b**ing about something that has existed for hundreds of years in every single form of entertainment ever.</quote> Ok It still makes their opinions no more relevant than the guy who fixes your toilet's.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 01/30/18 6:00:32 PM #117:	Sephiroth1288 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... You're b**ing about something that has existed for hundreds of years in every single form of entertainment ever. Ok It still makes their opinions no more relevant than the guy who fixes your toilet's. It still doesn't mean they have to stop making them. If you have a serious issue with politics in all forms of art and entertainment then you better toughen up, because you're going to have a tough time in life --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:895129149] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>You're b**ing about something that has existed for hundreds of years in every single form of entertainment ever.</quote> Ok It still makes their opinions no more relevant than the guy who fixes your toilet's.</quote> It still doesn't mean they have to stop making them. If you have a serious issue with politics in all forms of art and entertainment then you better toughen up, because you're going to have a tough time in life</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 01/30/18 6:02:39 PM #118:	The Great Muta 22 posted... It still doesn't mean they have to stop making them. I never said they had to. I said they are fools for thinking anyone takes their politics seriously and that they look like fools for airing them out in a venue that is supposed to be about something else. See: the 2016 election https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VUNFI_rZ2g --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:895129275] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>It still doesn't mean they have to stop making them. </quote> I never said they had to. I said they are fools for thinking anyone takes their politics seriously and that they look like fools for airing them out in a venue that is supposed to be about something else. See: the 2016 election https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VUNFI_rZ2g</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 01/30/18 6:11:39 PM #119:	Sephiroth1288 posted... See: the 2016 election The one where America elected a reality TV star to the White House? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:895129817] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>See: the 2016 election</quote> The one where America elected a reality TV star to the White House?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
flussence 01/30/18 6:13:10 PM #120:	if people had any control over their own compulsive behaviour this topic wouldn't be three pages --- u <cite>flussence posted [p:895129914] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>if people had any control over their own compulsive behaviour this topic wouldn't be three pages</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 01/30/18 6:14:53 PM #121:	I think more people care about what popular people think than you imagine. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:895130007] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>I think more people care about what popular people think than you imagine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 01/30/18 6:16:12 PM #122:	A_Good_Boy posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... See: the 2016 election The one where America elected a businessman to the White House? It's hilarious how leftists will ignore the majority of Trump's career just to score points, as if that will actually work and not make you look like gigantic fools. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:895130085] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>See: the 2016 election</quote> The one where America elected a businessman to the White House?</quote> It's hilarious how leftists will ignore the majority of Trump's career just to score points, as if that will actually work and not make you look like gigantic fools.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 01/30/18 6:16:29 PM #123:	Sephiroth1288 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... It still doesn't mean they have to stop making them. I never said they had to. I said they are fools for thinking anyone takes their politics seriously and that they look like fools for airing them out in a venue that is supposed to be about something else. See: the 2016 election https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VUNFI_rZ2g In your topic where you declared your support for Trump, you said you didn't really pay much attention to all the things he said (or maybe you stated it didn't really bother you). Why do you give him a free pass to spout his opinions but not others? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:895130109] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>It still doesn't mean they have to stop making them. </quote> I never said they had to. I said they are fools for thinking anyone takes their politics seriously and that they look like fools for airing them out in a venue that is supposed to be about something else. See: the 2016 election https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VUNFI_rZ2g</quote> In your topic where you declared your support for Trump, you said you didn't really pay much attention to all the things he said (or maybe you stated it didn't really bother you). Why do you give him a free pass to spout his opinions but not others?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 01/30/18 6:17:59 PM #124:	Ruvan22 posted... In your topic where you declared your support for Trump, you said you didn't really pay much attention to all the things he said (or maybe you stated it didn't really bother you). Why do you give him a free pass to spout his opinions but not others? He's the president Mark Ruffalo, RDJ, Deborah Messing etc are actors who do nothing relevant to politics --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:895130204] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote>In your topic where you declared your support for Trump, you said you didn't really pay much attention to all the things he said (or maybe you stated it didn't really bother you). Why do you give him a free pass to spout his opinions but not others?</quote> He's the president Mark Ruffalo, RDJ, Deborah Messing etc are actors who do nothing relevant to politics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 01/30/18 6:21:07 PM #125:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Ruvan22 posted... In your topic where you declared your support for Trump, you said you didn't really pay much attention to all the things he said (or maybe you stated it didn't really bother you). Why do you give him a free pass to spout his opinions but not others? He's the president Mark Ruffalo, RDJ, Deborah Messing etc are actors who do nothing relevant to politics So to be clear, a president can spout personal opinions (Like Obama saying Trayvon could have been his son), and you won't care? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:895130412] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote>In your topic where you declared your support for Trump, you said you didn't really pay much attention to all the things he said (or maybe you stated it didn't really bother you). Why do you give him a free pass to spout his opinions but not others?</quote> He's the president Mark Ruffalo, RDJ, Deborah Messing etc are actors who do nothing relevant to politics</quote> So to be clear, a president can spout personal opinions (Like Obama saying Trayvon could have been his son), and you won't care?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 01/30/18 6:23:46 PM #126:	Sephiroth1288 posted... I said they are fools for thinking anyone takes their politics seriously I don't know man, it seems you specifically care a lot about what they say, given your incessant ridicule of any celebrity that gives an opinion. Perhaps you should stop letting the tail wag the dog? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:895130569] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>I said they are fools for thinking anyone takes their politics seriously</quote> I don't know man, it seems you specifically care a lot about what they say, given your incessant ridicule of any celebrity that gives an opinion. Perhaps you should stop letting the tail wag the dog?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 01/30/18 6:24:55 PM #127:	Sephiroth1288 posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... See: the 2016 election The one where America elected a businessman to the White House? It's hilarious how leftists will ignore the majority of Trump's career just to score points, as if that will actually work and not make you look like gigantic fools. Is there something I said that was incorrect? The man is in the WWE hall of fame, has a star on the walk of fame, and can't secure a loan in the US so he has to beg Russia for money. Where are you getting it that he's anything but a TV star? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:895130630] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote> See: the 2016 election </quote> The one where America elected a businessman to the White House?</quote> It's hilarious how leftists will ignore the majority of Trump's career just to score points, as if that will actually work and not make you look like gigantic fools.</quote> Is there something I said that was incorrect? The man is in the WWE hall of fame, has a star on the walk of fame, and can't secure a loan in the US so he has to beg Russia for money. Where are you getting it that he's anything but a TV star?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 01/30/18 6:26:20 PM #128:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Ruvan22 posted... In your topic where you declared your support for Trump, you said you didn't really pay much attention to all the things he said (or maybe you stated it didn't really bother you). Why do you give him a free pass to spout his opinions but not others? He's the president Mark Ruffalo, RDJ, Deborah Messing etc are actors who do nothing relevant to politics Like look, you can even name specific people who made comments! So who's really the loser in this scenario? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:895130715] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote>In your topic where you declared your support for Trump, you said you didn't really pay much attention to all the things he said (or maybe you stated it didn't really bother you). Why do you give him a free pass to spout his opinions but not others?</quote> He's the president Mark Ruffalo, RDJ, Deborah Messing etc are actors who do nothing relevant to politics</quote> Like look, you can even name specific people who made comments! So who's really the loser in this scenario?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 01/30/18 6:33:19 PM #129:	Ruvan22 posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Ruvan22 posted... In your topic where you declared your support for Trump, you said you didn't really pay much attention to all the things he said (or maybe you stated it didn't really bother you). Why do you give him a free pass to spout his opinions but not others? He's the president Mark Ruffalo, RDJ, Deborah Messing etc are actors who do nothing relevant to politics So to be clear, a president can spout personal opinions (Like Obama saying Trayvon could have been his son), and you won't care? The substance of their opinion is one thing. Being a person who has no relevant political knowledge whining about immigration reform on a platform that is supposed to be about handing out plastic trophies to some guy who did the sound on some blockbuster movie makes you a tool regardless of the substance of your opinion. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:895131124] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote>In your topic where you declared your support for Trump, you said you didn't really pay much attention to all the things he said (or maybe you stated it didn't really bother you). Why do you give him a free pass to spout his opinions but not others?</quote> He's the president Mark Ruffalo, RDJ, Deborah Messing etc are actors who do nothing relevant to politics</quote> So to be clear, a president can spout personal opinions (Like Obama saying Trayvon could have been his son), and you won't care?</quote> The substance of their opinion is one thing. Being a person who has no relevant political knowledge whining about immigration reform on a platform that is supposed to be about handing out plastic trophies to some guy who did the sound on some blockbuster movie makes you a tool regardless of the substance of your opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 01/30/18 6:34:01 PM #130:	A_Good_Boy posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... See: the 2016 election The one where America elected a businessman to the White House? It's hilarious how leftists will ignore the majority of Trump's career just to score points, as if that will actually work and not make you look like gigantic fools. Is there something I said that was incorrect? The man is in the WWE hall of fame, has a star on the walk of fame, and can't secure a loan in the US so he has to beg Russia for money. Where are you getting it that he's anything but a TV star? The majority of his career where he wasn't a TV star. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:895131161] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote> See: the 2016 election </quote> The one where America elected a businessman to the White House?</quote> It's hilarious how leftists will ignore the majority of Trump's career just to score points, as if that will actually work and not make you look like gigantic fools.</quote> Is there something I said that was incorrect? The man is in the WWE hall of fame, has a star on the walk of fame, and can't secure a loan in the US so he has to beg Russia for money. Where are you getting it that he's anything but a TV star?</quote> The majority of his career where he wasn't a TV star.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AverageCEgal 01/30/18 6:34:27 PM #131:	well one of the celebrities became president for the political opinioning for like a dozen years during obama so they have important views <cite>AverageCEgal posted [p:895131189] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>well one of the celebrities became president for the political opinioning for like a dozen years during obama so they have important views</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 01/30/18 6:37:50 PM #132:	Celebrity political opinions don't matter until Republicans vote for them. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:895131357] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>Celebrity political opinions don't matter until Republicans vote for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Herugrim 01/30/18 6:38:08 PM #133:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv2ZMN3T18E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOH9trJLedk It's an entertainer's job to make you forget about shit like politics, not to shove it in your face. They are failing at their job. --- John Watson: "Well it isn't obvious to me." Sherlock Holmes: "The world is full of obvious things that nobody notices." <cite>Herugrim posted [p:895131375] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv2ZMN3T18E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOH9trJLedk It's an entertainer's job to make you forget about shit like politics, not to shove it in your face. They are failing at their job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/30/18 6:38:39 PM #134:	Sephiroth1288 posted... The majority of his career where he wasn't a TV star. Donald Trump has spent the majority of his career as a celebrity. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:895131412] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>The majority of his career where he wasn't a TV star.</quote> Donald Trump has spent the majority of his career as a celebrity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 01/30/18 6:39:06 PM #135:	AverageCEgal posted... well one of the celebrities became president for the political opinioning for like a dozen years during obama so they have important views Broseph_Stalin posted... Celebrity political opinions don't matter until Republicans vote for them. Ok, this is getting surreal Are all of you unaware that Donald Trump was a real estate tycoon for decades before he had a TV show? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:895131439] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>AverageCEgal posted...</cite> <quote>well one of the celebrities became president for the political opinioning for like a dozen years during obama so they have important views</quote> <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Celebrity political opinions don't matter until Republicans vote for them.</quote> Ok, this is getting surreal Are all of you unaware that Donald Trump was a real estate tycoon for decades before he had a TV show?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 01/30/18 6:40:08 PM #136:	Oh shit, real estate? That's the Palestinian conflict solved then. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:895131496] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>Oh shit, real estate? That's the Palestinian conflict solved then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/30/18 6:40:42 PM #137:	Donald Trump wasn't some unknown businessman before The Apprentice lol. He was already a celebrity. That's why he was chosen. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:895131542] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>Donald Trump wasn't some unknown businessman before The Apprentice lol. He was already a celebrity. That's why he was chosen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 01/30/18 6:40:52 PM #138:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Oh shit, real estate? That's the Palestinian conflict solved then. More relevant to politics than pretending to be a superhero. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:895131552] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Oh shit, real estate? That's the Palestinian conflict solved then.</quote> More relevant to politics than pretending to be a superhero.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 01/30/18 6:41:31 PM #139:	Darmik posted... Donald Trump wasn't some unknown businessman before The Apprentice lol. He was already a celebrity. That's why he was chosen. Would you describe Elon Musk as a businessman or a celebrity? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:895131597] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Donald Trump wasn't some unknown businessman before The Apprentice lol. He was already a celebrity. That's why he was chosen.</quote> Would you describe Elon Musk as a businessman or a celebrity?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AverageCEgal 01/30/18 6:42:15 PM #140:	ok bt like 2003 is when the show started obama was elected like when so he was celeb first then politican last <cite>AverageCEgal posted [p:895131639] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>ok bt like 2003 is when the show started obama was elected like when so he was celeb first then politican last</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gheb 01/30/18 6:42:34 PM #141:	If you give people the avenue to talk about things, they will inevitably start talking about their beliefs, especially if things are happening in the world that they feel strongly about. This doesn't just include celebrities, it includes just about anyone. It's just that most people don't get nationally broadcasted. I'm not going to blame the celebrities for saying what they believe. They have their opinions, they have the opportunity. They can use their time as they see fit. And the idea that politics are what is hurting the Grammy's is largely unfounded. Television viewership as a whole has been steadily decreasing for the last decade. This includes award shows. If politics are a driving force of their decrease, then at the very least you are going to have to do some real research to isolate it from the general decreasing trend of TV viewership. --- S** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again.* - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl <cite>Gheb posted [p:895131667] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>If you give people the avenue to talk about things, they will inevitably start talking about their beliefs, especially if things are happening in the world that they feel strongly about. This doesn't just include celebrities, it includes just about anyone. It's just that most people don't get nationally broadcasted. I'm not going to blame the celebrities for saying what they believe. They have their opinions, they have the opportunity. They can use their time as they see fit. And the idea that politics are what is hurting the Grammy's is largely unfounded. Television viewership as a whole has been steadily decreasing for the last decade. This includes award shows. If politics are a driving force of their decrease, then at the very least you are going to have to do some real research to isolate it from the general decreasing trend of TV viewership.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 01/30/18 6:45:12 PM #143:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Darmik posted... Donald Trump wasn't some unknown businessman before The Apprentice lol. He was already a celebrity. That's why he was chosen. Would you describe Elon Musk as a businessman or a celebrity? Both. But Trump had a bigger focus on being a celebrity. You do remember when he went around getting cameo appearances on several TV shows and movies right? He has a filmography. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_filmography --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:895131836] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Donald Trump wasn't some unknown businessman before The Apprentice lol. He was already a celebrity. That's why he was chosen.</quote> Would you describe Elon Musk as a businessman or a celebrity?</quote> Both. But Trump had a bigger focus on being a celebrity. You do remember when he went around getting cameo appearances on several TV shows and movies right? He has a filmography. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_filmography</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 01/30/18 7:00:06 PM #144:	What was that again about musicians not being involved in politics. https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170420101705-palin-white-house-2-exlarge-169.jpg --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:895132693] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>What was that again about musicians not being involved in politics. https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170420101705-palin-white-house-2-exlarge-169.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 01/30/18 7:01:35 PM #145:	Trump's business is selling his name as a brand. He's pretty much a celebrity. Even if he started in real estate, he's doing far more than just that. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:895132783] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>Trump's business is selling his name as a brand. He's pretty much a celebrity. Even if he started in real estate, he's doing far more than just that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 01/30/18 7:03:32 PM #146:	Darmik posted... Both. But Trump had a bigger focus on being a celebrity. Yeah wrong. Cameoing in Home Alone doesn't mean he's been mostly doing celebrity shit since then. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:895132917] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Both. But Trump had a bigger focus on being a celebrity.</quote> Yeah wrong. Cameoing in Home Alone doesn't mean he's been mostly doing celebrity shit since then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AverageCEgal 01/30/18 7:05:28 PM #147:	lol at bbt alt not able to answer a simple question about time why is this a thing <cite>AverageCEgal posted [p:895133031] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>lol at bbt alt not able to answer a simple question about time why is this a thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/30/18 7:05:38 PM #148:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Darmik posted... Both. But Trump had a bigger focus on being a celebrity. Yeah wrong. Cameoing in Home Alone doesn't mean he's been mostly doing celebrity shit since then. What in the world is doing celebrity shit. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:895133041] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Both. But Trump had a bigger focus on being a celebrity.</quote> Yeah wrong. Cameoing in Home Alone doesn't mean he's been mostly doing celebrity shit since then.</quote> What in the world is doing celebrity shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 01/30/18 7:43:40 PM #149:	The important thing to note, whether businessman or celebrity, is that neither of those are "politicians." <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:895135245] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote>The important thing to note, whether businessman or celebrity, is that neither of those are "politicians."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/30/18 7:46:26 PM #150:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Darmik posted... Donald Trump wasn't some unknown businessman before The Apprentice lol. He was already a celebrity. That's why he was chosen. Would you describe Elon Musk as a businessman or a celebrity? Why would you insult Elon Musk by comparing him to Donald fucking Trump? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:895135401] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Donald Trump wasn't some unknown businessman before The Apprentice lol. He was already a celebrity. That's why he was chosen.</quote> Would you describe Elon Musk as a businessman or a celebrity?</quote> Why would you insult Elon Musk by comparing him to Donald fucking Trump?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 01/30/18 7:49:14 PM #151:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Ok, this is getting surreal Are all of you unaware that Donald Trump was a real estate tycoon for decades before he had a TV show? did you ever answer how this made him more cognizant of law and economics than just working? --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:895135600] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Ok, this is getting surreal Are all of you unaware that Donald Trump was a real estate tycoon for decades before he had a TV show? </quote> did you ever answer how this made him more cognizant of law and economics than just working?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/30/18 7:54:23 PM #152:	Sephiroth1288 posted... hockeybub89 posted... TIL you can only share political opinions in public if you have special knowledge or experience with politics. You can share your political opinions wherever you want. But doing it on a film/TV/music awards show makes you look like a gigantic tool. So do you only have an issue with it at award shows specifically? Or are you saying people should only share political opinions, or it is only appropriate, if they are immediately relevant to their career and they have some special expertise in politics? How did our sad excuse for a President even get his new career off the ground in that case? Entertainment without politics is a world that will never exist. Politically charged works of art have existed as long as art. Everyone has opinions and art is an avenue artists use to express their opinions. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:895135920] in Why do cel... [t:76258058]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>TIL you can only share political opinions in public if you have special knowledge or experience with politics.</quote> You can share your political opinions wherever you want. But doing it on a film/TV/music awards show makes you look like a gigantic tool.</quote> So do you only have an issue with it at award shows specifically? Or are you saying people should only share political opinions, or it is only appropriate, if they are immediately relevant to their career and they have some special expertise in politics? How did our sad excuse for a President even get his new career off the ground in that case? Entertainment without politics is a world that will never exist. Politically charged works of art have existed as long as art. Everyone has opinions and art is an avenue artists use to express their opinions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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