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Muffinz0rz 01/31/18 11:35:20 AM #102:	The_Freecs posted... Fine I'll bite. Tales games have really good combat, but which one particularly stands out? All of them --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:895177047] in These are ... [t:76262473]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Freecs posted...</cite> <quote>Fine I'll bite. Tales games have really good combat, but which one particularly stands out?</quote> All of them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomSwell 01/31/18 12:40:31 PM #103:	scar the 1 posted... Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song Um... I did try it. There seems to be a big difference between the Romancing and the Frontier series, I haven't liked R.Sagas. Similar to SMT vs Persona. --- http://www.backloggery.com/doomswell <cite>DoomSwell posted [p:895179810] in These are ... [t:76262473]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song</quote> Um... I did try it. There seems to be a big difference between the Romancing and the Frontier series, I haven't liked R.Sagas. Similar to SMT vs Persona.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 01/31/18 12:42:39 PM #105:	Personally I feel Grandia extreme did the Grandia battle system better then 3 did. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:895179945] in These are ... [t:76262473]...</cite> <quote>Personally I feel Grandia extreme did the Grandia battle system better then 3 did.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 01/31/18 12:43:29 PM #107:	M_Live posted... The_Freecs posted... ViewtifulGrave posted... KH2, Nier A, and SO4 are are action RPGs. From Japan... JRPG = Japanese RPG When people think JRPG, they think turnbased. Obviously this isn't always the case, but something like Nier is very much Western-influenced, and is more of an ARPG Most people will count Star Ocean and Tales as JRPGs. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:895179997] in These are ... [t:76262473]...</cite> <quote><cite>M_Live posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Freecs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ViewtifulGrave posted...</cite> <quote>KH2, Nier A, and SO4 are are action RPGs.</quote> From Japan... JRPG = Japanese RPG</quote> When people think JRPG, they think turnbased. Obviously this isn't always the case, but something like Nier is very much Western-influenced, and is more of an ARPG</quote> Most people will count Star Ocean and Tales as JRPGs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 01/31/18 12:51:35 PM #108:	creativerealms posted... M_Live posted... The_Freecs posted... ViewtifulGrave posted... KH2, Nier A, and SO4 are are action RPGs. From Japan... JRPG = Japanese RPG When people think JRPG, they think turnbased. Obviously this isn't always the case, but something like Nier is very much Western-influenced, and is more of an ARPG Most people will count Star Ocean and Tales as JRPGs. Tales is though, by definition --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:895180512] in These are ... [t:76262473]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>M_Live posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Freecs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ViewtifulGrave posted...</cite> <quote>KH2, Nier A, and SO4 are are action RPGs.</quote> From Japan... JRPG = Japanese RPG</quote> When people think JRPG, they think turnbased. Obviously this isn't always the case, but something like Nier is very much Western-influenced, and is more of an ARPG</quote> Most people will count Star Ocean and Tales as JRPGs.</quote> Tales is though, by definition</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 01/31/18 1:24:19 PM #109:	Muffinz0rz posted... creativerealms posted... M_Live posted... The_Freecs posted... ViewtifulGrave posted... KH2, Nier A, and SO4 are are action RPGs. From Japan... JRPG = Japanese RPG When people think JRPG, they think turnbased. Obviously this isn't always the case, but something like Nier is very much Western-influenced, and is more of an ARPG Most people will count Star Ocean and Tales as JRPGs. Tales is though, by definition Right both Tails and Star Ocean are. Arguing they are not because they are not turn based is just silly. Action RPG and JRPG can intercept. Really Star Ocean is like a close cousin to Tales, with a 3D battle field instead of a 2-D one and a space opera back drop. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:895182532] in These are ... [t:76262473]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>M_Live posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Freecs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ViewtifulGrave posted...</cite> <quote>KH2, Nier A, and SO4 are are action RPGs.</quote> From Japan... JRPG = Japanese RPG</quote> When people think JRPG, they think turnbased. Obviously this isn't always the case, but something like Nier is very much Western-influenced, and is more of an ARPG</quote> Most people will count Star Ocean and Tales as JRPGs.</quote> Tales is though, by definition</quote> Right both Tails and Star Ocean are. Arguing they are not because they are not turn based is just silly. Action RPG and JRPG can intercept. Really Star Ocean is like a close cousin to Tales, with a 3D battle field instead of a 2-D one and a space opera back drop.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Freecs 01/31/18 2:21:46 PM #110:	M_Live posted... The_Freecs posted... ViewtifulGrave posted... KH2, Nier A, and SO4 are are action RPGs. From Japan... JRPG = Japanese RPG When people think JRPG, they think turnbased. Obviously this isn't always the case, but something like Nier is very much Western-influenced, and is more of an ARPG Brah just stop. Jrpg = any rpg from Japan. Turn based combat was never a requirement for an rpg. Even if you dont agree (youre wrong) were just arguing semantics at this point. <cite>The_Freecs posted [p:895186182] in These are ... [t:76262473]...</cite> <quote><cite>M_Live posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Freecs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ViewtifulGrave posted...</cite> <quote>KH2, Nier A, and SO4 are are action RPGs.</quote> From Japan... JRPG = Japanese RPG</quote> When people think JRPG, they think turnbased. Obviously this isn't always the case, but something like Nier is very much Western-influenced, and is more of an ARPG</quote> Brah just stop. Jrpg = any rpg from Japan. Turn based combat was never a requirement for an rpg. Even if you dont agree (youre wrong) were just arguing semantics at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 01/31/18 3:04:21 PM #111:	creativerealms posted... Muffinz0rz posted... creativerealms posted... M_Live posted... The_Freecs posted... ViewtifulGrave posted... KH2, Nier A, and SO4 are are action RPGs. From Japan... JRPG = Japanese RPG When people think JRPG, they think turnbased. Obviously this isn't always the case, but something like Nier is very much Western-influenced, and is more of an ARPG Most people will count Star Ocean and Tales as JRPGs. Tales is though, by definition Right both Tails and Star Ocean are. Arguing they are not because they are not turn based is just silly. Action RPG and JRPG can intercept. Really Star Ocean is like a close cousin to Tales, with a 3D battle field instead of a 2-D one and a space opera back drop. People are arguing that turn-based = JRPG? Do they know they're wrong? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:895188703] in These are ... [t:76262473]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>M_Live posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Freecs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ViewtifulGrave posted...</cite> <quote>KH2, Nier A, and SO4 are are action RPGs.</quote> From Japan... JRPG = Japanese RPG</quote> When people think JRPG, they think turnbased. Obviously this isn't always the case, but something like Nier is very much Western-influenced, and is more of an ARPG</quote> Most people will count Star Ocean and Tales as JRPGs.</quote> Tales is though, by definition</quote> Right both Tails and Star Ocean are. Arguing they are not because they are not turn based is just silly. Action RPG and JRPG can intercept. Really Star Ocean is like a close cousin to Tales, with a 3D battle field instead of a 2-D one and a space opera back drop.</quote> People are arguing that turn-based = JRPG? Do they know they're wrong?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Illuminoius 01/31/18 4:53:17 PM #112:	i don't know how people can hate grandia 3 but then love the shit out of 2 at least 3 ends up actually having enemies powerful enough to justify the battle system's existence <cite>Illuminoius posted [p:895195822] in These are ... [t:76262473]...</cite> <quote>i don't know how people can hate grandia 3 but then love the shit out of 2 at least 3 ends up actually having enemies powerful enough to justify the battle system's existence</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 01/31/18 5:08:54 PM #113:	DoomSwell posted... scar the 1 posted... Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song Um... I did try it. There seems to be a big difference between the Romancing and the Frontier series, I haven't liked R.Sagas. Similar to SMT vs Persona. Oh sure, there's a big difference. Frontier 1 mixes in some mechanics from the Game Boy games (and DS remakes) with robots, monsters, mystics etc. It also has a completely different setting from the Romancing series, which are all quite more regular fantasy. I think the PS2 remake is super nice, and what it has in common with Frontier 1 is its complete open-endedness. As well as, of course, staples such as glimmering skills in combat and combo attacks. Depending on what turned you off, you might be more inclined to look at Romancing SaGa 2 and 3. IMO they're both better than 1, and definitely more deserving of a remake than 1 was. As for The Last Remnant, it's more story-driven, like Frontier 2, although there's a ton of side quests to do. It's not technically a SaGa game, but a lot of the mechanics are still there, the same people made it, and it was internally titled SaGa for a while, so it's as much of a spiritual successor as you'll be able to find. I think it's quite enjoyable, and I like the twist on the formula where characters are instead small squads. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:895196835] in These are ... [t:76262473]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoomSwell posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song</quote> Um... I did try it. There seems to be a big difference between the Romancing and the Frontier series, I haven't liked R.Sagas. Similar to SMT vs Persona.</quote> Oh sure, there's a big difference. Frontier 1 mixes in some mechanics from the Game Boy games (and DS remakes) with robots, monsters, mystics etc. It also has a completely different setting from the Romancing series, which are all quite more regular fantasy. I think the PS2 remake is super nice, and what it has in common with Frontier 1 is its complete open-endedness. As well as, of course, staples such as glimmering skills in combat and combo attacks. Depending on what turned you off, you might be more inclined to look at Romancing SaGa 2 and 3. IMO they're both better than 1, and definitely more deserving of a remake than 1 was. As for The Last Remnant, it's more story-driven, like Frontier 2, although there's a ton of side quests to do. It's not technically a SaGa game, but a lot of the mechanics are still there, the same people made it, and it was internally titled SaGa for a while, so it's as much of a spiritual successor as you'll be able to find. I think it's quite enjoyable, and I like the twist on the formula where characters are instead small squads.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Freecs 01/31/18 5:18:38 PM #114:	Third tier top 5 1 - wild arms 4 and 5 2 - Tales of graces f (havent played destiny remake) 3 - grandia 1 (havent played grandia 2) 4 - persona 5 (havent played any other smt games) 5 - ... im having trouble thinking of a fifth one lol <cite>The_Freecs posted [p:895197438] in These are ... [t:76262473]...</cite> <quote>Third tier top 5 1 - wild arms 4 and 5 2 - Tales of graces f (havent played destiny remake) 3 - grandia 1 (havent played grandia 2) 4 - persona 5 (havent played any other smt games) 5 - ... im having trouble thinking of a fifth one lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomSwell 01/31/18 7:50:54 PM #115:	@scar_the_1 Actually, as far as "spiritual successors to Saga" goes, I've already preordered Alliance Alive even though I eventually got bored of Legend of Legacy. My main problem with LoL was having only 3 party members; one of which who should spam shield skills, and the other who should spam magic contracts. In the end, only one character was fighting so random battles were pretty slow. Alliance Alive lets you use 5 at a time and you don't have to spam magic contracts. --- http://www.backloggery.com/doomswell <cite>DoomSwell posted [p:895206502] in These are ... [t:76262473]...</cite> <quote>@scar_the_1 Actually, as far as "spiritual successors to Saga" goes, I've already preordered Alliance Alive even though I eventually got bored of Legend of Legacy. My main problem with LoL was having only 3 party members; one of which who should spam shield skills, and the other who should spam magic contracts. In the end, only one character was fighting so random battles were pretty slow. Alliance Alive lets you use 5 at a time and you don't have to spam magic contracts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/01/18 2:02:09 AM #116:	DoomSwell posted... @scar_the_1 Actually, as far as "spiritual successors to Saga" goes, I've already preordered Alliance Alive even though I eventually got bored of Legend of Legacy. My main problem with LoL was having only 3 party members; one of which who should spam shield skills, and the other who should spam magic contracts. In the end, only one character was fighting so random battles were pretty slow. Alliance Alive lets you use 5 at a time and you don't have to spam magic contracts. That's interesting. I bought LoL, but haven't gotten very far yet. I feel similarly to you about the party size. I'll keep an eye on AA and see how it seems. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:895225131] in These are ... [t:76262473]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoomSwell posted...</cite> <quote>@scar_the_1 Actually, as far as "spiritual successors to Saga" goes, I've already preordered Alliance Alive even though I eventually got bored of Legend of Legacy. My main problem with LoL was having only 3 party members; one of which who should spam shield skills, and the other who should spam magic contracts. In the end, only one character was fighting so random battles were pretty slow. Alliance Alive lets you use 5 at a time and you don't have to spam magic contracts.</quote> That's interesting. I bought LoL, but haven't gotten very far yet. I feel similarly to you about the party size. I'll keep an eye on AA and see how it seems.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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