Current Events > Lol cops asking people "why you so nervous"?

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Tezlok posted...

and the women handing out newspapers who got shot at during the manhunt for that ex cop in LA. chris dorner or whatever. no excuse to just fire blindly into trucks. they could have killed those women. they were just doing their jobs and throwing newspapers. and cops turned around like action stars and emptied their clips into the truck without even checking who was inside

Again those are freak accidents from either some miscommunication or just high tensions. Put yourself in the situation of a reasonable officers given the circumstances

But let's talk shit about cops because they shot someone on accident who lived while in the middle of a manhunt for one of the more profile cases in our lives?
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WizardPowers posted...

darkprince45 posted...

you think cops are out here gunning people like it's call of duty

we don't think that

we think you're poorly trained, don't speak out against bad cops in your departments, and give slaps on the wrists (or just move people to different departments) when people should be getting fired. And overall cops seem to be against being held accountable for their actions.

Lmfao
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american cops are the most violent cops in the western world. they act like military soldiers. and there are more killings from cops in America than in any other western country. the way cops are trained is a serious problem in this country, and a danger to the citizens. as a cop you like to think the killings are rare, but to unarmed scared citizens, it happens way too often. it is not in fact rare. it seems to happen like once a week. cops are out of control. and people don't trust them

cop thinks all the cases of cops being incompetent are just "rare cases"

lol what a fucking surprise

WizardPowers posted...

darkprince45 posted...

you think cops are out here gunning people like it's call of duty

we don't think that

we think you're poorly trained, don't speak out against bad cops in your departments, and give slaps on the wrists (or just move people to different departments) when people should be getting fired. And overall cops seem to be against being held accountable for their actions.

1. You're wrong and I would like to see your data on this. I would like you to bring me all of the training, classes, etc.. one department does wrong. Tell me why it's ineffective and what you do differently to train them to your standard then

2. 100 percent yes they do. This isn't triple 9. There is a whole internal affairs that's very brutal. A lot of times it doesn't warrant getting fired it's just an overreaction caused by our social media age

3. They are 100 percent being held accountable. Body cams are pretty unforgiving. Just had an officer fired for doing an improper technique while arresting someone
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darkprince45 posted...

Put yourself in the situation of a reasonable officers given the circumstances

put yourself in the situation of the victim. I am sick of cops telling me to be symapthetic to their viewpoint. what about ours? its ok for the cop to be scared and fire his gun. but it's not ok for the citizen to be scared.make one mistake and the cop can kill you just cause he is scared and his scaredness overrides the scaredness of the innocent citizen. countless cops have been "scared" and killed unarmed people who just made a twitchy move cause they don't have the training that cops do for high stress situations.

Tezlok posted...

they act like military soldiers.

They actually don't, because military soldiers receive far better training than the cops do. That's why incidents like the cops shooting the guy in the hotel hallway are shocking to people in the military, at least according to the internet comments I've read.
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Dude, its no use talking to CE about cops

Many people here are afraid to step out of their house, much less someone in power

They will always be afraid and lash out
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"it's just the media, we do nothing wrong you guys"

"every case of wrongdoing is a rare case"

darkprince45 posted...

3. They are 100 percent being held accountable. Body cams are pretty unforgiving. Just had an officer fired for doing an improper technique while arresting someone

Great. This should be more common.
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Tezlok posted...

american cops are the most violent cops in the western world. they act like military soldiers. and there are more killings from cops in America than in any other western country. the way cops are trained is a serious problem in this country, and a danger to the citizens. as a cop you like to think the killings are rare, but to unarmed scared citizens, it happens way too often. it is not in fact rare. it seems to happen like once a week. cops are out of control. and people don't trust them

American citizens are the most violent citizens in the world. They act like military soldiers. And there are more killings to each other in America than any other western country. The way people act is a serious problem in this country and are a danger to themselves and police(chicagooooo). As a cop I like to think people killing each other is rare, it happens way too often. People are out of control, they don't even trust each other
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If you witnessed corruption/improper behavior by a fellow police officer, would you say anything? Genuine question. Or would anything happen I guess would be a better question.
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Uh yeah? And so would 99 percent of every officer. You think I'm gonna lose my job, my house, everything so someone can commit some stupid act? Internal affairs is brutal

And bodycams really cut away with all of this
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"it's just a few bad apples guys"

the police were as great as you described them there would be no issue even if the media was constantly trying to set them up.

Comfy_Pillow posted...

"it's just a few bad apples guys"

the police were as great as you described them there would be no issue even if the media was constantly trying to set them up.

Lolol God CE and their hatred for cops
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Here let me show you something

Comfy_Pillow posted...

minorities were as great as you described them there would be no issue even if the media was constantly trying to set them up.

Comfy_Pillow posted...

"it's just a few bad apples guys"

White people were as great as you described them there would be no issue even if the media was constantly trying to set them up.

Comfy_Pillow posted...

"it's just a few bad apples guys"

Poor people were as great as you described them there would be no issue even if the media was constantly trying to set them up.

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I think the issue is the force attracts too many incompetent people. There is no barrier to keep out the shit heads unless they're blatantly crazy. It's like teaching. Anybody with half a brain could become a teacher, it wont be until they do something really fucking stupid that they'll get kicked out but by then it's too late.

It's like a stupid person can't just decide to be a mechanical engineer. But with these careers they can.
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darkprince45 posted...

Uh yeah? And so would 99 percent of every officer. You think I'm gonna lose my job, my house, everything so someone can commit some stupid act? Internal affairs is brutal

And bodycams really cut away with all of this

If 99% of officers would speak out then why is it in every case nobody ever does? It just so happens the cops that witness it are all the 1%?
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ChainedRedone posted...

darkprince45 posted...

Uh yeah? And so would 99 percent of every officer. You think I'm gonna lose my job, my house, everything so someone can commit some stupid act? Internal affairs is brutal

And bodycams really cut away with all of this

If 99% of officers would speak out then why is it in every case nobody ever does? It just so happens the cops that witness it are all the 1%?

Where is this happening so much?
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Captain_Qwark posted...

only semi-related but the police department my hometown that has 0 crime at all decided to buy this military vehicle to patrol around town in

http://defense-update.com/images_new/MRAP_Cat_1_navistar.jpg (not this one but same vehicle)

It's pretty comical

I mean it's not like they're going to go gunning for you
In the event of something crazy happens you'll be glad it's there
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DyingPancake posted...

Dude, its no use talking to CE about cops

Many people here are afraid to step out of their house, much less someone in power

They will always be afraid and lash out

I've noticed this.
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look, I just don't want to die and have my killer get a paid vacation even after it's proven I was unarmed. in any other job, you make a mistake and you get fired. cops are allowed to say "I was scared" and everyone goes "ooooooo poor thing...it's ok" and pat them on the back while the innocent civilian is bleeding out on the street.

I have autism and people with mental disorders don't do well in encounters with cops. cops are not trained to deal with people who don't have normal brains. I am super shy, I have anxiety, I sometimes make weird movements. a cop could very well gun me down because they think I am on drugs or that I am reaching for a gun. I do not trust cops and I avoid them as a rule in my life. I've never spoken to a cop in my life, and I hope I never have to. I used to live near a cop station and would walk to work past it. sometimes I had to walk right past cops. I was always very nervous. I am not comfortable around cops. they freak me out.

Captain_Qwark posted...

Out of my own curiosity what even semi-plausible situation would require that?

One person.
It doesn't matter if you have 20, 2000, or 20,000. All it takes is one person on something like a high room or roof.

You should get a helicopter. A helicopter just saved a couple officers lives by being overhead and pointing an a person who actively shooting at officers exact location at night

Don't sit there and be so smug and laugh about it. Nothing happens here.

You know what happened where I live close to, too? October 1st. Nothing happens there, it's a resort town
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Not really. Problem is you guys live a sheltered life.you don't actually experience anything. The most you you guys lived is probably college

You guys never sat there as a 21 year old in gitmo having a detainee trying to stab you with a shank in a small room. You don't see what it's like.

You guys don't actually have real interactions with officers and see they're humans and not terminators lol
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Reddit and cnn says were hired killers so that's what it is
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My opinions of police are largely influenced by my own interactions with them. I was almost the victim of police aggression in the past, in my opinion.
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Cop on CE: "your town of 50 people needs armored vehicles and helicopters because people are fucking crazy we're not paranoid, you're paranoid."

I think it's just your military ptsd talking bro.
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darkprince45 posted...

You guys don't actually have real interactions with officers and see they're humans and not terminators lol

most mentally ill people are harmless. but 99% of the time when a mentally ill person encounters a cop, the cop ends up shooting the person.

Tezlok posted...

darkprince45 posted...

You guys don't actually have real interactions with officers and see they're humans and not terminators lol

most mentally ill people are harmless. but 99% of the time when a mentally ill person encounters a cop, the cop ends up shooting the person.

This isnt even close to being true. Lol i see i can update my tag
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KingCrabCake posted...

Tezlok posted...

darkprince45 posted...

You guys don't actually have real interactions with officers and see they're humans and not terminators lol

most mentally ill people are harmless. but 99% of the time when a mentally ill person encounters a cop, the cop ends up shooting the person.

This isnt even close to being true. Lol i see i can update my tag

thats fine. you don't know what life is like for people like us.

Tezlok posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Tezlok posted...

darkprince45 posted...

You guys don't actually have real interactions with officers and see they're humans and not terminators lol

most mentally ill people are harmless. but 99% of the time when a mentally ill person encounters a cop, the cop ends up shooting the person.

This isnt even close to being true. Lol i see i can update my tag

thats fine. you don't know what life is like for people like us.

What exaggeration and made up lies? Ya i dont know what its like
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knowing that a cop can end your life anytime they want

WizardPowers posted...

don't speak out against bad cops in your departments,

this is the biggest issue

Tezlok posted...

knowing that a cop can end your life anytime they want

That applies to anyone
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if you ever hear a news story about a cop shooting of a guy in Alaska. and I happen to never post again forever....you will know whath appened

@darkprince45 posted...

WizardPowers posted...

darkprince45 posted...

Show me otherwise? Literally ever major situation has arised from deadly force or in some sort of situation where a suspect either had a gun in his car and was moving in his car like a maniac or someone reaching for a gun whether it be theirs or the officers

you can't actually believe this.

Im asking you to show me otherwise

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-michael-slager-sentencing-20171207-story,amp.html

The video of that shooting was one of the most disgusting things Ive ever seen. The cop had zero excuse for shooting but that didnt stop him from putting a few rounds through the guys back. Then he and his partner planted the taser on the dying mans body to try to make it seem justified. If it hadnt been for the random passerby recording them, they probably would have gotten away with murder.

Yes, completely unjustified shootings by cops like these may not be very common, but to act like they never happen is breathtakingly ignorant.
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Like I said it's rare. And that time I was 4 minutes from there when I lived in IL. When that happened
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm6xexu_wJY
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you and I disagree on what rare means. to me, rare would be if a cop only killed unarmed people like once a decade. but it happens numerous times, every year. it's like at least one case every month. I don't consider that rare. and every single one of them is one too many

I like to consider myself as more on the police's side than many other people online but then the way cops like darkprince try to defend themselves really sets them up as not at all worth defending

Take the hallway scene in Arizona with Daniel Shaver. Yes it's not at all a common situation but that's the sort of shit people are afraid of and it only needs to happen once before you're dead.

Tezlok posted...

you and I disagree on what rare means. to me, rare would be if a cop only killed unarmed people like once a decade. but it happens numerous times, every year. it's like at least one case every month. I don't consider that rare. and every single one of them is one too many

900 people out of 323 million.

53,000 assaults against police officers in a year. 143 killed, 60+ in gun-related incidents.

53 police officers are assaulted on duty for every person killed each year.

There are bad shootings; there are bad cops.

There are outright scum that hide behind the badge. Your problem should be with the police unions, not the patrolmen.

Yes, police training can improve. It should improve. But to act like police, of whom there are 900,000, are wontonly killing people in the streets, is irresponsible and outright fallacious.

If you want better training for your local police, start a goFundMe to bankroll it. Talk to your city council. Be heard. Stop crying on CE about your mental issues that you think put you at risk.
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the same problems that make me scared of the cops, also keep me from being a community leader. I am a shy recluse not a public speaker.

So, you aren't going to do anything to fix the problem, but it's their fault?
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Patchwork posted...

So, you aren't going to do anything to fix the problem, but it's their fault?

why don't the police do something to fix the problem?
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I rely on the public as a whole to wake up and defend the rights of the mentally ill. you are basically doing the same thing as if someone said that kids in wheelchairs need to fight for their rights. no. that's for their parents to do. I am 36 years old physically, but mentally and emotionally I am like 14.

Patchwork posted...

Tezlok posted...

you and I disagree on what rare means. to me, rare would be if a cop only killed unarmed people like once a decade. but it happens numerous times, every year. it's like at least one case every month. I don't consider that rare. and every single one of them is one too many

900 people out of 323 million.

53,000 assaults against police officers in a year. 143 killed, 60+ in gun-related incidents.

53 police officers are assaulted on duty for every person killed each year

Its sad that youre peddling these numbers as fact when so much as accidentally brushing up against a cop can count as assault if they feel like it. Educate yourself a little.
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

Its sad that youre peddling these numbers as fact when so much as accidentally brushing up against a cop can count as assault if they feel like it. Educate yourself a little.

in addition, a cop knows what they're signing up for. the average person does not have the same benefit of training, lawyers, counseling, etc. in addition to not being prepared for negative interactions (made even worse so when innocent)
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prince_leo posted...

in addition, a cop knows what they're signing up for. the average person does not have the same benefit of training, lawyers, counseling, etc. in addition to not being prepared for negative interactions (made even worse so when innocent)

exactly. cops want us to feel bad for them. and they keep saying "we get scared. we are human" yea well so are we. and we don't have guns or training. cops are supposed to know what to do in a high stress situation. we didn't get that training and we don't know what to do. but we are the ones who pay with our lives for making a mistake. and it wou;dn't be as bad, if at least the killers get punished. but most of the time, they get rewarded for it. a paid vacation for commiting murder. it's horrific