Current Events > Antidepressants Make it Harder to Empathize, Harder to Climax and Harder to Cry

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http://bigthink.com/videos/dr-julie-holland-on-antidepressants?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox#link_time=1472227351
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Might explain a few things....<_< >_>
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Antidepressants make it harder to cry? Isn't that the point?

Wacking it on an ssri is a terrible experience
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That's literally the point.

They take a person from having massive highs and massive lows, like a roller coaster, and bring them back to an even keel in order to reset the brains pathways.

Close monitoring of doseage by a trusted doctor is required or you get effects like these.
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Tupacrulez posted...

That's literally the point.

They take a person from having massive highs and massive lows, like a roller coaster, and bring them back to an even keel in order to reset the brains pathways.

Close monitoring of doseage by a trusted doctor is required or you get effects like these.

A doctor didn't even prescribe my anti-depressants. A nurse practitioner just gave me tons of pills like they were throwing shit at the wall and seeing what would stick.

I'm completely off all my psychiatric meds now and only take natural remedies.
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I've felt all that with my low dosage of SSRI
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Your whole anti-psychiatric medicine thing is dangerous. Stop it.
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theAteam posted...

Wacking it on an ssri is a terrible experience

Amen
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COVxy posted...

Your whole anti-psychiatric medicine thing is dangerous. Stop it.

Prove it or shutup.

It's a fact that psychiatric medications are irresponsibly over-prescribed and used. It has adverse effects on people such as the ones mentioned in this video. I've lived through those effects. I did a lot of fucked up things while I was over-medicated with this shit and would've done even more if I had thought I could get away with it.

I was never such a heartless person before those drugs started to kick in.

I just want people to be aware of the risks when taking these drugs.
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It's also a fact that psychiatrists don't even know the real mechanisms behind how those drugs work, but that's irrelevant, right?
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I find it difficult to believe that anyone comes out better after drug use.

Sure, if you are particularly off your rocker or suicidal/broken beyond being able to function then it's a necessary evil to help you live some semblance of a normal life.

The unintended consequences/side effects of such things are numerous and particularly severe, though. I don't think you know just what's happening to you until many years later when you're looking at the entire thing in retrospect and realizing where you are now.
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Ultima Dragon posted...

The unintended consequences/side effects of such things are numerous and particularly severe, though. I don't think you know just what's happening to you until many years later when you're looking at the entire thing in retrospect and realizing where you are now.

This happened to me after quitting SSRI's. I came off them finally, remembered what I did while on them, and the guilt was so severe I became extremely depressed all over again.
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3deep5u posted...

It's also a fact that psychiatrists don't even know the real mechanisms behind how those drugs work, but that's irrelevant, right?

That's not abnormal in the field of medicine.

I mean, there's all sorts of criticisms of psychiatry that you can make. But "psychiatric medicine is the devil" is not one of them. They have been validated through clinical trials, they work. Not all will work for everyone, since there's such a large heterogeneity within defined disorders (really where your criticism of psychiatry should come in), but they work on average, meaning they will do good for a lot of people.
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COVxy posted...

But "psychiatric medicine is the devil" is not one of them

literally never posted or implied anywhere in any of my messages

I'm stating facts, and you're assuming the rest.

I was going to take you seriously until you posted this infantile bullshit.

gg
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You are literally blaming psychiatric medicine for your immoral acts. It's actually not even a very large leap to that clearly facetious statement.
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COVxy posted...

You are literally blaming psychiatric medicine for your immoral acts. It's actually not even a very large leap to that clearly facetious statement.

It's not large leap between reduced empathy, emotions, and consequently the guilt surrounding the thought of committing immoral behaviors and the actual immoral acts themselves.

If you can't see the obvious connection then I don't know what to say.

The lady in this video is far more qualified than you are, and yet you claim to know more than she does while also having lackluster support for your views.

Neither this video or I have ever suggested that people with serious illnesses such as schizophrenia, bipolar, or MAJOR depression (not omg i thought about killing myself yesterday when my boss/partner yelled at me and i'm sad sometimes) should stop taking their medication. People who don't need the medication to function though are over-prescribed these drugs, and that has serious effects that more people should consider before taking them.

That's the problem people like myself have, but hang on to your strawmen if you want.
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I've been on and off SSRIs.

I take a low dosage, but I am very prone to anxiety attacks without it.
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I mean, yes there are side effects to antidepressants just as there are to any and every medication on the market, and yes over-prescription can occur and doctors should be more consistent and eagle eyed about whom they're prescribing to.

That said, these DO work and can help. A SSRI's goal is to keep you pretty neutral on a mood scale since you were prescribed them in the first place BECAUSE you were experiencing consistent lows or massive mood swings. What hurts, and I've seen this happen, is when someone who is suffering more from anxiety is prescribed antidepressants, and that's not what they need. They need something like diazepam, not wellbutrin.
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dolomedes posted...

my medication doesn't stop me from crying or coming

Some expensive antidepressants make it so they have some of the less notorious side effects from occurring, yeah. But with prolonged use of even the cheapest antidepressants, it is possible to get back to where your body typically was when it comes to climaxing.
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3deep5u posted...

MAJOR depression (not omg i thought about killing myself yesterday when my boss/partner yelled at me and i'm sad sometimes)

Major depression is just the name of the disorder, not a reference to the severity. If you were diagnosed with "depression", it was very likely major depression.
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COVxy posted...

Major depression is just the name of the disorder

Yes, it is, but it also is indicative of the severe impact that the disorder has on your life.

Major depression is not feeling sad or suicidal when bad stuff happens to you.

COVxy posted...

If you were diagnosed with "depression", it was very likely major depression.

A doctor or NP saying, "Oh, you have some depression possibly, try this" is not the same as getting a diagnosis from a psychiatrist. You act like the former doesn't happen everyday way more often than people get properly diagnosed.
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Learn to deal

Nobody actually needs pills to get by
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I'm supposed to be on anti depressants (and anti anxiety) but I haven't popped a pill in over over a month

theAteam posted...

Wacking it on an ssri is a terrible experience

This, along with them not even cheering me up, is why I quit.
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SSRIs destroy you sexually.

not only libido, erection, etc
but also destroy the quality of sperm, to a point where you cant have children

remember 70-90% of people on these things have sexual problems. and thats probably still understated.
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Pills intended to correct chemical imbalances affect different people in different ways. The ways we are diagnosed and treated are largely guess work. Two doctors who graduated together and work at the same practice may diagnose a patient differently.

This is why we need to develop more thorough methods of diagnosing mental illness. More often than not, peoples outward symptoms differ from day to day and more patients likely dont show doctors their worst side. General practitioners are writing prescriptions for adderal (crystal meth, chemically). Shit needs to go. All of these horrible prescription drugs need to go.
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3deep5u posted...

A doctor didn't even prescribe my anti-depressants. A nurse practitioner just gave me tons of pills like they were throwing shit at the wall and seeing what would stick.

To be fair, NP and physicians are about the same, but as you mentioned, a general practice absolutely won't suffice most of the time compare to a psychiatrist or even extremely skilled therapists or counselors

Low dose SSRIs are common and generally safe to just throw some samples at but only if you're waiting to see a shrink in the mean time. I got a psychiatric NP in the family and she constantly curses general practices that throw SSRI samples at patients without a qualified follow up.

She generally says that if a doctor gives you a sample pack with no real prescription to fill, he's probably not well versed with mental issues
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One legitimate grievance that's been raised about these drugs, is that taking these drugs is not a path to recovery.

Taking the drugs doesn't make you want to recover. You just get stuck doing the drugs instead of actually working on your underlying problems and becoming a better person.
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Aeriis posted...

I love antidepressants. I can see why they don't work for everyone, but they've been amazing for me <3

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Steve Nick posted...

One legitimate grievance that's been raised about these drugs, is that taking these drugs is not a path to recovery.

Taking the drugs doesn't make you want to recover. You just get stuck doing the drugs instead of actually working on your underlying problems and becoming a better person.

These aren't opiates
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I've been on Zoloft since August and they've helped get my libido back up. I definitely take longer to orgasm now, but before the Zoloft, I usually came too quickly. So it's pretty much a pick your poison thing.

I can't tell if it's actually helped my moods or not though.

I'm on antidepressants and I cannot finish right now.

I don't even want tok
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...

3deep5u posted...

A doctor didn't even prescribe my anti-depressants. A nurse practitioner just gave me tons of pills like they were throwing shit at the wall and seeing what would stick.

To be fair, NP and physicians are about the same, but as you mentioned, a general practice absolutely won't suffice most of the time compare to a psychiatrist or even extremely skilled therapists or counselors

Low dose SSRIs are common and generally safe to just throw some samples at but only if you're waiting to see a shrink in the mean time. I got a psychiatric NP in the family and she constantly curses general practices that throw SSRI samples at patients without a qualified follow up.

She generally says that if a doctor gives you a sample pack with no real prescription to fill, he's probably not well versed with mental issues

whats NP? also my pyschistrist is much more careful with meds, then my normal doctor.
but ive also talked with the head of the pharmacology for a few hours and he just gave like 12 options,
even my doc was surprised.
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Super Slash posted...

I've been on Zoloft since August and they've helped get my libido back up. I definitely take longer to orgasm now, but before the Zoloft, I usually came too quickly. So it's pretty much a pick your poison thing.

I can't tell if it's actually helped my moods or not though.

i think some of them may help from premature ejaculation (or whatever its called),
but also mess with other areas.
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Do people really get anti-depressants right away? I attended years of therapy before they would even give me pills, and I still had therapy during the time I was on anti-depressants.
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ok I did finish just recently.

it didn't even feel goodm
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AmonAmarth posted...

whats NP?

Nurse practitioner, I was lazy
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That explains a lot of things from both sides of the spectrum
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yeah
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Antidepressants are bullshit and everyone I've met that have been on them are worse off. I can see antidepressants being the next big thing people go after once something is done about prescription opiates
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3deep5u posted...

I'm completely off all my psychiatric meds now and only take natural remedies.

Lmao. Having an issue with the way psychiatric medications are used is legitimate. But lol @ natural remedies.
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AmonAmarth posted...

Super Slash posted...

I've been on Zoloft since August and they've helped get my libido back up. I definitely take longer to orgasm now, but before the Zoloft, I usually came too quickly. So it's pretty much a pick your poison thing.

I can't tell if it's actually helped my moods or not though.

i think some of them may help from premature ejaculation (or whatever its called),
but also mess with other areas.

Fluoxetine is first-line therapy for premature ejaculation. That said, there are too many armchair doctors riding high on the Dunning Kruger curve ITT for me to deal with.
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ChainedRedone posted...

Lmao. Having an issue with the way psychiatric medications are used is legitimate. But lol @ natural remedies.

Is there supposed to be a meaningful point in this post somewhere?
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That explains a lot of things from both sides of the spectrum
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