Current Events > calling a camgirl a camgirl is harassment on twitch now

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Would whore be a better term for them?
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TheVipaGTS posted...

TheGrindery posted...

I read an article by a porn star where she got into a fist fight because she was referred to as a whore. Good times.

its almost like context is a thing! "she has sex on camera therefore we can degrade her by calling her a whore negatively!"...shut up, dude...its the same people on here who just ignore any potential "context" and want to deal with everything in the most technical and simplistic way possible.

If your behavior matches the label and you dislike it, adjust the behavior. If it bothers you, change. If it doesn't, shrug.

Her reaction should've been "...and?" especially since the purpose of those remarks is to elicit an extreme response. Weak people just can't help but give the other person that satisfaction, though.

Twitch seriously went downhill over 5th e past year or two. The IRL section is cancer
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Bagamak posted...

victim blame

Here's a ridiculous phrase we see a lot these days.

"Being the victim in a situation completely absolves you of any responsibility in the matter! What's accountability?"

CableZL posted...

At what point did simply not being an asshole on the internet become too much?

CasualGuy posted...

Twitch seriously went downhill over 5th e past year or two. The IRL section is cancer

Honestly why does this matter? Just dont watch those streams

CruelBuffalo posted...

CableZL posted...

At what point did simply not being an asshole on the internet become too much?

At what point did people stop realizing they don't have to let everything get under their skin?

Mental armor is the way to go. If you're deadset on nothing bothering you, it won't matter what anyone says and it's no fun to troll someone that doesn't give a shit.

TheGrindery posted...

Bagamak posted...

victim blame

Here's a ridiculous phrase we see a lot these days.

"Being the victim in a situation completely absolves you of any responsibility in the matter! What's accountability?"

What responsibility do I have in this situation? Why am I expected to know that the meaning of a word changed? What mysterious clue was I supposed to pick up on to know to look up a random word? I will keep saying it
There was no reason I ever had to think the word meant something else. How could I predict a new definition and why am I in the wrong for not knowing it? You are still acting like I was expected to be psyhic. It is illogical to make me check the definition of every word in the English language before talking to someone. And if I honestly meant no offense, I should not be banned

I am partly joking about this but partly serious and also have nothing at stake because I have never even been to twitch. I'm just having fun seeing how far you guys will go to defend an immoral punishment against an innocent person who's only crime was in not having psychic powers

TheGrindery posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

TheGrindery posted...

I read an article by a porn star where she got into a fist fight because she was referred to as a whore. Good times.

its almost like context is a thing! "she has sex on camera therefore we can degrade her by calling her a whore negatively!"...shut up, dude...its the same people on here who just ignore any potential "context" and want to deal with everything in the most technical and simplistic way possible.

If your behavior matches the label and you dislike it, adjust the behavior. If it bothers you, change. If it doesn't, shrug.

Her reaction should've been "...and?" especially since the purpose of those remarks is to elicit an extreme response. Weak people just can't help but give the other person that satisfaction, though.

Yea. Shes the one who needs to change. Not the asshole running around calling people whore to elicit a negative response. Shes a porn star and if someone calls her a whore in a negative connotation with the intent to upset her...she has to give up being a porn star? I agree she shouldnt attack the person but your logic is flawed.
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If guys actually donate money to these girls - they are wholly responsible for this phenomenon. I subscribe/follow to just video game speed runners and fighting game players and a few YouTubers who stream video games on the side.

At the same time - I dont knock these girls. Hey, most of them probably could be actual cam girls but they chose the more vanilla route. Not their fault dumbasses pay them.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

TheGrindery posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

TheGrindery posted...

I read an article by a porn star where she got into a fist fight because she was referred to as a whore. Good times.

its almost like context is a thing! "she has sex on camera therefore we can degrade her by calling her a whore negatively!"...shut up, dude...its the same people on here who just ignore any potential "context" and want to deal with everything in the most technical and simplistic way possible.

If your behavior matches the label and you dislike it, adjust the behavior. If it bothers you, change. If it doesn't, shrug.

Her reaction should've been "...and?" especially since the purpose of those remarks is to elicit an extreme response. Weak people just can't help but give the other person that satisfaction, though.

Yea. Shes the one who needs to change. Not the asshole running around calling people whore to elicit a negative response. Shes a porn star and if someone calls her a whore in a negative connotation with the intent to upset her...she has to give up being a porn star? I agree she shouldnt attack the person but your logic is flawed.

No because she also has the option to decide that what the other person said to her doesn't matter and that she will live how she wants.

It doesn't matter what would be nice and all that shit. Life isn't an episode of The Care Bears. Your expectations is on par with trying to disarm the whole world because you don't like to wear armor.

Or people can just not be assholes for no reason to female streamers on twitch. It isnt that hard.
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TheGrindery posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

CableZL posted...

At what point did simply not being an asshole on the internet become too much?

At what point did people stop realizing they don't have to let everything get under their skin?

Mental armor is the way to go. If you're deadset on nothing bothering you, it won't matter what anyone says and it's no fun to troll someone that doesn't give a shit.

Way to not address what was actually said. So if I called your mom a whore she should just get over it? You wouldnt be upset nor your mom?

TheVipaGTS posted...

Or people can just not be assholes for no reason to female streamers on twitch. It isnt that hard.

You exist as you. You control you. You don't have that level of control over anyone else. Even still...

"It's not me! It's THE WORLD that's wrong!" lol

CruelBuffalo posted...

TheGrindery posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

CableZL posted...

At what point did simply not being an asshole on the internet become too much?

At what point did people stop realizing they don't have to let everything get under their skin?

Mental armor is the way to go. If you're deadset on nothing bothering you, it won't matter what anyone says and it's no fun to troll someone that doesn't give a shit.

Way to not address what was actually said. So if I called your mom a whore she should just get over it? You wouldnt be upset nor your mom?

Not in the least. We both know to value the views and opinions of the people close to us. That doesn't include several family members. Do it face to face and expect an eyeroll.

It doesn't include anger and it doesn't get physical unless someone else decides to make it physical.

TheVipaGTS posted...

Or people can just not be assholes for no reason to female streamers on twitch. It isnt that hard.

That's too hard for miserable people. They feel the need to spread their misery around

TheGrindery posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

Or people can just not be assholes for no reason to female streamers on twitch. It isnt that hard.

You exist as you. You control you. You don't have that level of control over anyone else. Even still...

"It's not me! It's THE WORLD that's wrong!" lol

Yes, people can choose to not let words of complete losers who get joy for insulting others online affect them. Were asking why losers need to behave like they do.

Dont like a streamer...why dont they just not watch.

CruelBuffalo posted...

TheGrindery posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

Or people can just not be assholes for no reason to female streamers on twitch. It isnt that hard.

You exist as you. You control you. You don't have that level of control over anyone else. Even still...

"It's not me! It's THE WORLD that's wrong!" lol

Yes, people can choose to not let words of complete losers who get joy for insulting others online affect them. Were asking why losers need to behave like they do.

Dont like a streamer...why dont they just not watch.

Who knows and why care? There are 7 billion people. All of them differ on some level. Who knows why they do what they do? Tune it out.

TheGrindery posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

TheGrindery posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

Or people can just not be assholes for no reason to female streamers on twitch. It isnt that hard.

You exist as you. You control you. You don't have that level of control over anyone else. Even still...

"It's not me! It's THE WORLD that's wrong!" lol

Yes, people can choose to not let words of complete losers who get joy for insulting others online affect them. Were asking why losers need to behave like they do.

Dont like a streamer...why dont they just not watch.

Who knows and why care? There are 7 billion people. All of them differ on some level. Who knows why they do what they do? Tune it out.

Why support those people?
Why do you?
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Because I value freedom. It includes the good and the bad. It's not illegal to be an asshole and it shouldn't be. The more sensitive and disconnected the world becomes, the more of this we will lose. People stay in too much and can block things they dislike and make their world an echo chamber. This is why people can't take trolling or criticism.

Laws may be in place to protect all of this, but the people make the law and the softer the people are...the worse the whole thing becomes because laws can be changed.

Also because if I know someone is doing something to upset me, I don't let it. There's no benefit to that.

Not calling people whores will make the world disconnected?
You seem pretty disconnected, yourself.
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LordRazziel posted...

Not calling people whores will make the world disconnected?
You seem pretty disconnected, yourself.

People call it social media but there's no replacement for actually hanging out. Real friendships are more than liking someone's status and sending them something funny.

When you stay in your own little bubble for the most part and silence anything you dislike, you get to where you can't handle negativity worth a damn. That's not a good thing. It's not "Life, liberty and the pursuit of never having to read or hear anything I don't like."

If I were a chick with big boobs, I'd totally be a Twitch ho. Get to play games all day and dudes constantly throw money at you and white knight for you. And all you have to do is wear a low cut shirt and occasionally bend over to pick something up in front of the camera. EZ life.
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TheGrindery posted...

LordRazziel posted...

Not calling people whores will make the world disconnected?
You seem pretty disconnected, yourself.

People call it social media but there's no replacement for actually hanging out. Real friendships are more than liking someone's status and sending them something funny.

When you stay in your own little bubble for the most part and silence anything you dislike, you get to where you can't handle negativity worth a damn. That's not a good thing. It's not "Life, liberty and the pursuit of never having to read or hear anything I don't like."

*rolls eyes*
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TheVipaGTS posted...

TheGrindery posted...

LordRazziel posted...

Not calling people whores will make the world disconnected?
You seem pretty disconnected, yourself.

People call it social media but there's no replacement for actually hanging out. Real friendships are more than liking someone's status and sending them something funny.

When you stay in your own little bubble for the most part and silence anything you dislike, you get to where you can't handle negativity worth a damn. That's not a good thing. It's not "Life, liberty and the pursuit of never having to read or hear anything I don't like."

*rolls eyes*

TheGrindery likes this.

TheGrindery posted...

LordRazziel posted...

Not calling people whores will make the world disconnected?
You seem pretty disconnected, yourself.

People call it social media but there's no replacement for actually hanging out. Real friendships are more than liking someone's status and sending them something funny.

When you stay in your own little bubble for the most part and silence anything you dislike, you get to where you can't handle negativity worth a damn. That's not a good thing. It's not "Life, liberty and the pursuit of never having to read or hear anything I don't like."

So get out there and shit on someone today!
Makes sense...
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TheGrindery posted...

Because I value freedom. It includes the good and the bad. It's not illegal to be an asshole and it shouldn't be. The more sensitive and disconnected the world becomes, the more of this we will lose. People stay in too much and can block things they dislike and make their world an echo chamber. This is why people can't take trolling or criticism.

Laws may be in place to protect all of this, but the people make the law and the softer the people are...the worse the whole thing becomes because laws can be changed.

Also because if I know someone is doing something to upset me, I don't let it. There's no benefit to that.

"It's not me! It's THE WORLD that's wrong!" lol
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tri sapphire posted...

TheGrindery posted...

Because I value freedom. It includes the good and the bad. It's not illegal to be an asshole and it shouldn't be. The more sensitive and disconnected the world becomes, the more of this we will lose. People stay in too much and can block things they dislike and make their world an echo chamber. This is why people can't take trolling or criticism.

Laws may be in place to protect all of this, but the people make the law and the softer the people are...the worse the whole thing becomes because laws can be changed.

Also because if I know someone is doing something to upset me, I don't let it. There's no benefit to that.

"It's not me! It's THE WORLD that's wrong!" lol

"I support heading toward a world in which you could get into legal trouble for hurting someone's feelings."

It used to just be fear about terrorism that was used to justify limiting liberty. Now PC culture is added and the people are increasingly onboard with fascism disguised as manners.

But either way, I look at the bright side. Offensive humor is more enjoyable than ever now that people rage over every little thing.

TheGrindery posted...

"I support heading toward a world in which you could get into legal trouble for hurting someone's feelings."

Of all the slippery slope fallacies I have seen on here this one is one of the more ridiculous

At first, I was wondering why that would possibly be an issue. They are camgirls, in that they make a living by being girls streaming themselves doing stuff on camera.

I didn't realize that camgirl specifically referred to girla streaming themselves doing pornographic stuff on camera.
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Esrac posted...

At first, I was wondering why that would possibly be an issue. They are camgirls, in that they make a living by being girls streaming themselves doing stuff on camera.

I didn't realize that camgirl specifically referred to girla streaming themselves doing pornographic stuff on camera.

TheGrindery posted...

Why are people acting like girl and whore are synonymous?

Being a camgirl isn't the same as being a cam whore.

Captain_Qwark posted...

It must suck to be a non slutty girl on twitch. You pretty much have to stick your tits or ass in the camera to get viewers these days. Unless you sleep with a popular streamer I guess.

I can tell you've never been to twitch a day in your life.
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