Current Events > Democrat campaign staffers unionize in time for 2018 elections. RIP Democrats.

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southcoast09 posted...

Yall can look it up. Every time I post proof, the topic gets shut down by the moderators.

you get shut down for posting false information.
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No, I dont. The moderators realize this isnt a conservative-free safe space.
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Repubs shaking in their steel toe boots hahahaha lmfao
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Trump is so America First that he hires mostly immigrants on visas to work at his properties and makes his crappy hats and creepy teddy bears in China. Such a patriot!
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Ben_Ruggiero posted...

Repubs shaking in their steel toe boots hahahaha lmfao

Is that an illusion to us working and liberals sitting on their asses, or just the death rattle of the left?
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southcoast09 posted...

Glad to see you guys are still in denial. The thing that burns you up is that you know Trump is going to be President for the next seven years.

So @southcoast09 since youre so sure the Republicans are in absolute control for a long time now, will you close your account if the Dems retake the Senate or House this fall?

You might as well be confident and take the bet, since its a foregone conclusion in your mind, and you get to put us liherals in our place.
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Do you feel that getting me to agree to a pointless account bet will make up for your prior embarrassment in this topic? The democrats can run around like headless chickens and Trump will be president again. You know it and I know it.

If the democrats won the senate, then theyd go from having control of 0/3 branches of power to 1/3, so... its not exactly like youre vying to overthrow our administration. The name of the game for the Democratic Party is to salvage and rebuild from scratch. Theyre in no position to win anything. They didnt lose power, they were outright usurped by the American people.
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Nomadic View posted...

reductio ad absurdum

wingardium leviosa!
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southcoast09 posted...

Do you feel that getting me to agree to a pointless account bet will make up for your prior embarrassment in this topic? I couldnt care less. The democrats can run around like headless chickens and Trump will be president again. You know it and I know it.

If the democrats won the senate, then theyd go from having control of 0/3 branches of power to 1/3, so... its not exactly like youre vying to overthrow our administration. The name of the game for the Democratic Party is to salvage and rebuild from scratch. Theyre in no position to win anything. They didnt lose power, they were outright usurped by the American people.

So youre hesitant to make the bet, then. Typical. Despite all your bravado, deep down you realize that the blue wave is a very serious possibility this November, and youre scared.
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Bullet_Wing posted...

The future LolCoast meltdown is of such epic proportions that if you listen really carefully, you can hear his impotent squeals of rage echoing down the temporal line

It will be a sight to behold. Even though lolcoast is too chicken to take the bet, theres a very strong chance hell get his account banned in the aftermath of the November elections if the Dems retake either chamber of Congress. At the very least, Id expect a long time-out in purgatory for his nuclear meltdown.
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Thats literally a deflection from your first deflection. Its funny how far youve accidentally gotten from the initial topic (which made you look bad).

So you guys have that up and started attacking me over things that were said weeks ago
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southcoast09 posted...

Thats literally a deflection from your first deflection. Its funny how far youve accidentally gotten from the initial topic (which made you look bad).

So you guys have that up and started attacking me over things that were said weeks ago

Says the guy who started the deflecting.

You, like Hothlin, are a hypocrite.
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You guys were incapable of putting forward a good argument or any facts (as usual).
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southcoast09 posted...

You guys were incapable of putting forward a good argument or any facts (as usual).

"You guys we were incapable of..."

What?

#justsouthcoastthings
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southcoast09 posted...

You guys were incapable of putting forward a good argument or any facts (as usual).

This coming from the person who says sorry guys I cant post any sources backing up what I say because Ill get modded. Youll just have to take my word for it!
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megamanfreakXD posted...

Resident doctors work over 80 hours for week for dirt on top of debt.

These people are a bunch of bitches.

Higher rate of suicide than almost any other occupation.
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southcoast09 posted...

Bio1590 posted...

southcoast09 posted...

Unions are just one more form of systematic control. If my employer trusts me, I dont need some bureaucratic officials telling me to piss in a cup. Im good on having an outside organization gum up my employer-employee relations

I dont really think unions are nearly as necessary now, with modern workplace reforms.

You don't even have a fucking job lol, you have no idea what the "modern workplace" is like

Why do you think that? Youre just mad because I said it about you, as a joke, a long time ago. You got really defensive and started posting pictures of your computer screen, as if that somehow proved anything.

You dont even live in this country.

Because you've literally admitted to not having a job and getting by thanks to your parent's money. I don't even know why you're trying to pretend differently, we all know what you said.

And lol, "he posted a photo of his computer screen at work, that doesn't mean he has a job!"
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"Sorry Mrs Clinton, I can't go to the polls right now. This is my scheduled off time"
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Yea this seems like a good thing not a bad thing. Maybe just maybe the Democrats can win in the next election if they back away from being only pro minority and instead become pro American.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Yea this seems like a good thing not a bad thing. Maybe just maybe the Democrats can win in the next election if they back away from being only pro minority and instead become pro American.

Only 10% of the workforce is in a union though

And it's not like workers have a soft spot for unions, being the primary driving force for businesses outsourcing.
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Mal_Fet posted...

And it's not like workers have a soft spot for unions, being the primary driving force for businesses outsourcing.

Sure says alot that American companies would rather greedily outsource the labor than just pay a fair wage with proper regulations to American citizens
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ZombiePelican posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

And it's not like workers have a soft spot for unions, being the primary driving force for businesses outsourcing.

Sure says alot that American companies would rather greedily outsource the labor than just pay a fair wage with proper regulations to American citizens

I'm not sure if you know how demand works, but I guarantee you that given a choice between two functionally identical products, you would choose the cheaper one made in Taiwan over the more expensive one made in a unionized company. Not that you would realistically bother to check which country the product was made in.
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Mal_Fet posted...

I'm not sure if you know how demand works,

This isn't demand. It's flat out greed.

"I have to be slightly less rich and pay my workers a fair wage with proper safety regulations? Fuck that, better outsource everything to overseas sweat shops with little to no regulations to stay as rich as possible while hoarding all my savings in overseas tax shelters"

There's no defending this at all, I don't give a fuck how you try to spin it
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ZombiePelican posted...

There's no defending this at all, I don't give a fuck how you try to spin it

Mal_Fet posted...

I guarantee you that given a choice between two functionally identical products, you would choose the cheaper one made in Taiwan over the more expensive one made in a unionized company. Not that you would realistically bother to check which country the product was made in.

And by the way, it is not immoral to give a Taiwanese person a job. If we want more jobs in America, then American workers need to be allowed to be more competitive.
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So by "allowed to be more competitive" you mean "eliminate or remove the minimum wage", correct?
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Bio1590 posted...

So by "allowed to be more competitive" you mean "eliminate or remove the minimum wage", correct?

That's one good step, yes.

What's better, having a $7/hr job or having no job?
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Mal_Fet posted...

Bio1590 posted...

So by "allowed to be more competitive" you mean "eliminate or remove the minimum wage", correct?

That's one good step, yes.

What's better, having a $7/hr job or having no job?

No job. I can make more than $7 an hour doing UTT work.
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why are free-market proponents so anti-union? if the workers choose to group together for bargaining power, isn't that the very definition of the market responding to demand?
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Mal_Fet posted...

Bio1590 posted...

So by "allowed to be more competitive" you mean "eliminate or remove the minimum wage", correct?

That's one good step, yes.

What's better, having a $7/hr job or having no job?

There's no way unemployment benefits aren't worth more than $7/hr.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

why are free-market proponents so anti-union? if the workers choose to group together for bargaining power, isn't that the very definition of the market responding to demand?

because they distort the equilibrium of supply and demand for labor

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/09/unions-workers.asp

The power of labor unions rests in their two main tools of influence: restricting labor supply and increasing labor demand. Some economists compare them to cartels. Through collective bargaining, unions negotiate the wages that employers will pay. Unions ask for a higher wage than the equilibrium wage (found at the intersect of the labor supply and labor demand curves), but this can lower the hours demanded by employers. Since a higher wage rate equates to less work per dollar, unions often face problems when negotiating higher wages and instead will often focus on increasing the demand for labor.

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Shmashed posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

why are free-market proponents so anti-union? if the workers choose to group together for bargaining power, isn't that the very definition of the market responding to demand?

because they distort the equilibrium of supply and demand for labor

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/09/unions-workers.asp

The power of labor unions rests in their two main tools of influence: restricting labor supply and increasing labor demand. Some economists compare them to cartels. Through collective bargaining, unions negotiate the wages that employers will pay. Unions ask for a higher wage than the equilibrium wage (found at the intersect of the labor supply and labor demand curves), but this can lower the hours demanded by employers. Since a higher wage rate equates to less work per dollar, unions often face problems when negotiating higher wages and instead will often focus on increasing the demand for labor.

thanks.

i dont want to derail this topic more than i have ... i think ill just make a separate one
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