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Mike_Stanton 02/14/18 12:12:10 AM #1:	Sure, they owned slaves, but so did the Founding Fathers. Do you really think the North was about civil rights? haha nope...the only reason they had fewer slaves was because they had more factories to produce things, and the only reason they even went to war was to maintain the union. So the South just wanted more freedom...just like how the Founding Fathers wanted freedom from the Brits. If you would have sided with the North in the Civil War then you also would have sided with the Brits during the Revolutionary War. EDIT: Yes, I (Butters) will probably get called a racist for this, but it will only show people's poor reading comprehension. --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong <cite>Mike_Stanton posted [p:896046892] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>Sure, they owned slaves, but so did the Founding Fathers. Do you really think the North was about civil rights? haha nope...the only reason they had fewer slaves was because they had more factories to produce things, and the only reason they even went to war was to maintain the union. So the South just wanted more freedom...just like how the Founding Fathers wanted freedom from the Brits. If you would have sided with the North in the Civil War then you also would have sided with the Brits during the Revolutionary War. EDIT: Yes, I (Butters) will probably get called a racist for this, but it will only show people's poor reading comprehension.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 02/14/18 12:12:33 AM #2:	Tag <cite>Reis posted [p:896046909] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>Tag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 02/14/18 12:13:02 AM #3:	Mike_Stanton posted... they owned slaves <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:896046929] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>they owned slaves</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shanefu22 02/14/18 12:13:35 AM #4:	This is gonna be good --- Bench- 550 Squat-665 Dead- 825 <cite>shanefu22 posted [p:896046956] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>This is gonna be good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 02/14/18 12:14:00 AM #5:	shanefu22 posted... This is gonna be good not really its pretty weak bait. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896046974] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>shanefu22 posted...</cite> <quote>This is gonna be good</quote> not really its pretty weak bait.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mike_Stanton 02/14/18 12:14:19 AM #6:	Skye Reynolds posted... Mike_Stanton posted... they owned slaves So the Founding Fathers were evil too? Okay, got it! --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong <cite>Mike_Stanton posted [p:896046985] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>they owned slaves</quote></quote> So the Founding Fathers were evil too? Okay, got it!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 02/14/18 12:15:01 AM #7:	Would your parents be proud to know that this is how you spend your free time? --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:896047018] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>Would your parents be proud to know that this is how you spend your free time?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 02/14/18 12:15:08 AM #8:	Mike_Stanton posted... Skye Reynolds posted... Mike_Stanton posted... they owned slaves So the Founding Fathers were evil too? Okay, got it! yes. --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:896047023] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>they owned slaves</quote></quote> So the Founding Fathers were evil too? Okay, got it!</quote> yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
medzz 02/14/18 12:15:56 AM #9:	by the end of the war the CSA had less freedom --- Hi <cite>medzz posted [p:896047063] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>by the end of the war the CSA had less freedom</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mike_Stanton 02/14/18 12:16:58 AM #10:	boxington posted... Mike_Stanton posted... Skye Reynolds posted... Mike_Stanton posted... they owned slaves So the Founding Fathers were evil too? Okay, got it! yes. So you hate America? --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong <cite>Mike_Stanton posted [p:896047116] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>they owned slaves</quote></quote> So the Founding Fathers were evil too? Okay, got it!</quote> yes.</quote> So you hate America?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 02/14/18 12:17:16 AM #11:	no. --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:896047141] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JustMonika 02/14/18 12:17:27 AM #12:	Mike_Stanton posted... So you hate America? That's some leap. --- https://i.imgtc.com/qJzeN65.png <cite>JustMonika posted [p:896047151] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>So you hate America?</quote> That's some leap.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
medzz 02/14/18 12:17:47 AM #13:	There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa. --- Hi <cite>medzz posted [p:896047163] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mike_Stanton 02/14/18 12:19:07 AM #14:	medzz posted... by the end of the war the CSA had less freedom That's because they lost. --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong <cite>Mike_Stanton posted [p:896047214] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>medzz posted...</cite> <quote>by the end of the war the CSA had less freedom</quote> That's because they lost.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
robellr13 02/14/18 12:19:27 AM #15:	medzz posted... There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa. So it makes right to have it in America lol --- http://i.imgur.com/eQj8v9j.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PDLpYTW.jpg? <cite>robellr13 posted [p:896047234] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>medzz posted...</cite> <quote>There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa.</quote> So it makes right to have it in America lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 02/14/18 12:19:53 AM #16:	medzz posted... There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa. I don't think the slave owners in Libya are black, but I could be wrong maybe in other places, though... --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:896047259] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>medzz posted...</cite> <quote>There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa.</quote> I don't think the slave owners in Libya are black, but I could be wrong maybe in other places, though...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
medzz 02/14/18 12:20:39 AM #17:	robellr13 posted... medzz posted... There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa. So it makes right to have it in America lol nope that is why America did away with it. --- Hi <cite>medzz posted [p:896047291] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>medzz posted...</cite> <quote>There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa.</quote> So it makes right to have it in America lol</quote> nope that is why America did away with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
robellr13 02/14/18 12:21:15 AM #18:	medzz posted... robellr13 posted... medzz posted... There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa. So it makes right to have it in America lol nope that is why America did away with it. So why bring this up? --- http://i.imgur.com/eQj8v9j.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PDLpYTW.jpg? <cite>robellr13 posted [p:896047323] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>medzz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>medzz posted...</cite> <quote>There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa.</quote> So it makes right to have it in America lol</quote> nope that is why America did away with it.</quote> So why bring this up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
robellr13 02/14/18 12:21:53 AM #19:	boxington posted... medzz posted... There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa. I don't think the slave owners in Libya are black, but I could be wrong maybe in other places, though... They are not. They are Arabs. Im East African myself and my people have been tortured for years. Siblings. So I know all the fuck about it --- http://i.imgur.com/eQj8v9j.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PDLpYTW.jpg? <cite>robellr13 posted [p:896047352] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote><cite>medzz posted...</cite> <quote>There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa.</quote> I don't think the slave owners in Libya are black, but I could be wrong maybe in other places, though...</quote> They are not. They are Arabs. Im East African myself and my people have been tortured for years. Siblings. So I know all the fuck about it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
medzz 02/14/18 12:21:57 AM #20:	robellr13 posted... medzz posted... robellr13 posted... medzz posted... There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa. So it makes right to have it in America lol nope that is why America did away with it. So why bring this up? Why bring up Slavery in countries where there is no slavery? --- Hi <cite>medzz posted [p:896047359] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>medzz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>medzz posted...</cite> <quote>There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa.</quote> So it makes right to have it in America lol</quote> nope that is why America did away with it.</quote> So why bring this up?</quote> Why bring up Slavery in countries where there is no slavery?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 02/14/18 12:22:07 AM #21:	Skye Reynolds posted... Mike_Stanton posted... they owned slaves It's not even this. It's that they refused to give up said slaves even when the attitudes of the time shifted to more reasonable and ethical basic human rights. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:896047372] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>they owned slaves</quote></quote> It's not even this. It's that they refused to give up said slaves even when the attitudes of the time shifted to more reasonable and ethical basic human rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CIA_Agent 02/14/18 12:22:27 AM #22:	a lot of other states already banned slavery ya fool --- Semper Fi. <cite>CIA_Agent posted [p:896047385] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>a lot of other states already banned slavery ya fool</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 02/14/18 12:23:13 AM #23:	shut up butters --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg <cite>metralo posted [p:896047423] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>shut up butters</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 02/14/18 12:24:15 AM #24:	medzz posted... Why bring up Slavery in countries where there is no slavery? because we're having a historical discussion about why things were bad in hindsight...what does Slavery in Africa have to do with this topic? Should we never discuss history? and before you say "should we never discuss slavery in Africa!?"...we should. its definitely a bad thing. but this topic isn't the place to randomly bring it up unless you're trying to be a racist shit poster...and judging by most of your other posts..... --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896047463] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>medzz posted...</cite> <quote>Why bring up Slavery in countries where there is no slavery? </quote> because we're having a historical discussion about why things were bad in hindsight...what does Slavery in Africa have to do with this topic? Should we never discuss history? and before you say "should we never discuss slavery in Africa!?"...we should. its definitely a bad thing. but this topic isn't the place to randomly bring it up unless you're trying to be a racist shit poster...and judging by most of your other posts.....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 02/14/18 12:24:45 AM #25:	Mike_Stanton posted... boxington posted... Mike_Stanton posted... Skye Reynolds posted... Mike_Stanton posted... they owned slaves So the Founding Fathers were evil too? Okay, got it! yes. So you hate America? ITT if you think slavery is evil, you hate America --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:896047481] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>they owned slaves</quote></quote> So the Founding Fathers were evil too? Okay, got it!</quote> yes.</quote> So you hate America?</quote> ITT if you think slavery is evil, you hate America</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 02/14/18 12:25:50 AM #26:	tag --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:896047525] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>tag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 02/14/18 12:26:32 AM #27:	Mike_Stanton posted... If you would have sided with the North in the Civil War then you also would have sided with the Brits during the Revolutionary War. If you would have sided with the South during the Civil War then you would have sided with America during the Revolutionary War and you also would have sided with the Red Army and therefore communism during the Russian Civil War. Proof that you are a communist. --- <cite>Garioshi posted [p:896047554] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>If you would have sided with the North in the Civil War then you also would have sided with the Brits during the Revolutionary War.</quote> If you would have sided with the South during the Civil War then you would have sided with America during the Revolutionary War and you also would have sided with the Red Army and therefore communism during the Russian Civil War. Proof that you are a communist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Freddie_Mercury 02/14/18 12:27:19 AM #28:	why did butters get fired from dominos --- I'm a sex machine ready to reload... when's sig emoji support thinking face emoji <cite>Freddie_Mercury posted [p:896047585] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>why did butters get fired from dominos</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
robellr13 02/14/18 12:27:36 AM #29:	medzz posted... robellr13 posted... medzz posted... robellr13 posted... medzz posted... There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa. So it makes right to have it in America lol nope that is why America did away with it. So why bring this up? Why bring up Slavery in countries where there is no slavery? ? What is the topic talking about? --- http://i.imgur.com/eQj8v9j.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PDLpYTW.jpg? <cite>robellr13 posted [p:896047593] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>medzz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>medzz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>robellr13 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>medzz posted...</cite> <quote>There is black on black slavery still going on in Africa.</quote> So it makes right to have it in America lol</quote> nope that is why America did away with it.</quote> So why bring this up?</quote> Why bring up Slavery in countries where there is no slavery?</quote> ? What is the topic talking about?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mike_Stanton 02/14/18 12:53:55 AM #30:	Dash_Harber posted... Skye Reynolds posted... Mike_Stanton posted... they owned slaves It's not even this. It's that they refused to give up said slaves even when the attitudes of the time shifted to more reasonable and ethical basic human rights. not what the war was about ChainedRedone posted... ITT if you think slavery is evil, you hate America No, if you think the founders of this country were evil then you hate America. Garioshi posted... Mike_Stanton posted... If you would have sided with the North in the Civil War then you also would have sided with the Brits during the Revolutionary War. If you would have sided with the South during the Civil War then you would have sided with America during the Revolutionary War and you also would have sided with the Red Army and therefore communism during the Russian Civil War. Proof that you are a communist. No, the founders were fighting for freedom. Communism is the opposite of freedom because it literally makes one a slave to the government. --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong <cite>Mike_Stanton posted [p:896048644] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>they owned slaves</quote></quote> It's not even this. It's that they refused to give up said slaves even when the attitudes of the time shifted to more reasonable and ethical basic human rights.</quote> not what the war was about <cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>ITT if you think slavery is evil, you hate America</quote> No, if you think the founders of this country were evil then you hate America. <cite>Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>If you would have sided with the North in the Civil War then you also would have sided with the Brits during the Revolutionary War.</quote> If you would have sided with the South during the Civil War then you would have sided with America during the Revolutionary War and you also would have sided with the Red Army and therefore communism during the Russian Civil War. Proof that you are a communist.</quote> No, the founders were fighting for freedom. Communism is the opposite of freedom because it literally makes one a slave to the government.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 02/14/18 12:54:14 AM #31:	Reis posted... Tag --- http://i.imgur.com/DKNJbBm.jpg What a terrifying thing to happen. I'm not sure why but I have this big fear of going blond - Zurkon <cite>EverDownward posted [p:896048658] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reis posted...</cite> <quote>Tag</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 02/14/18 12:55:47 AM #32:	No, if you think the founders of this country were evil then you hate America. not really. No, the founders were fighting for freedom for a select group of people. --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:896048720] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><quote>No, if you think the founders of this country were evil then you hate America.</quote> not really. <quote>No, the founders were fighting for freedom</quote> for a select group of people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
babyeatermax 02/14/18 12:56:17 AM #33:	smh --- This guy Not changing this sig until Vegas gets an NBA team <cite>babyeatermax posted [p:896048741] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/14/18 12:57:12 AM #34:	Thanks Trump --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896048776] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>Thanks Trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 02/14/18 12:58:01 AM #35:	Slavery --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:896048809] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>Slavery</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mike_Stanton 02/14/18 12:59:53 AM #36:	boxington posted... for a select group of people. Back then the idea of all races being equal was too advanced. You might as well criticize the founders for not knowing how to use a computer. --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong <cite>Mike_Stanton posted [p:896048878] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote>for a select group of people.</quote> Back then the idea of all races being equal was too advanced. You might as well criticize the founders for not knowing how to use a computer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 02/14/18 1:02:22 AM #37:	slavery was abolished in different societies before America was a thing, and we'd be doing a disservice to our predecessors to think that they weren't advanced enough to know it was a moral wrong --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:896048963] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>slavery was abolished in different societies before America was a thing, and we'd be doing a disservice to our predecessors to think that they weren't advanced enough to know it was a moral wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 02/14/18 1:13:07 AM #38:	Mike_Stanton posted... So the South just wanted more freedom.. freedom to take away the freedom of other black people. oh the irony. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:896049363] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>So the South just wanted more freedom..</quote> freedom to take away the freedom of other black people. oh the irony.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 02/14/18 1:14:20 AM #39:	Also @Error1355 why is this topic still up. So much for that claim that blatant racism gets modded in addition to the new flaming rules eh? <cite>Reis posted [p:896049417] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>Also @Error1355 why is this topic still up. So much for that claim that blatant racism gets modded in addition to the new flaming rules eh?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 02/14/18 1:16:13 AM #40:	Mike_Stanton posted... No, the founders were fighting for freedom. Communism is the opposite of freedom because it literally makes one a slave to the government. The Red Army was fighting for freedom against a monarch, just like the Founding Fathers, which means you love communism and hate freedom and therefore hate America. Why are you so anti-American? --- <cite>Garioshi posted [p:896049480] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>No, the founders were fighting for freedom. Communism is the opposite of freedom because it literally makes one a slave to the government. </quote> The Red Army was fighting for freedom against a monarch, just like the Founding Fathers, which means you love communism and hate freedom and therefore hate America. Why are you so anti-American?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SamsSung 02/14/18 1:16:31 AM #41:	I was robert e lee . My original 2nd in command was a black man. The southern side originally planned to free the slaves 1 week before the war began. We werent evil just outnumbered. --- I realize I have a lot of water to carry. Well, I'm screwed. <cite>SamsSung posted [p:896049493] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>I was robert e lee . My original 2nd in command was a black man. The southern side originally planned to free the slaves 1 week before the war began. We werent evil just outnumbered.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 02/14/18 1:16:38 AM #42:	Skye Reynolds posted... Mike_Stanton posted... they owned slaves --- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:896049498] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>they owned slaves</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mike_Stanton 02/14/18 1:31:15 AM #43:	cerealbox760 posted... Mike_Stanton posted... So the South just wanted more freedom.. freedom to take away the freedom of other black people. oh the irony. No, freedom to not be part of the union. Garioshi posted... Mike_Stanton posted... No, the founders were fighting for freedom. Communism is the opposite of freedom because it literally makes one a slave to the government. The Red Army was fighting for freedom against a monarch, just like the Founding Fathers, which means you love communism and hate freedom and therefore hate America. Why are you so anti-American? Communism is inherently unfree, so they weren't fighting for freedom. --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong <cite>Mike_Stanton posted [p:896049972] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>So the South just wanted more freedom..</quote> freedom to take away the freedom of other black people. oh the irony.</quote> No, freedom to not be part of the union. <cite>Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>No, the founders were fighting for freedom. Communism is the opposite of freedom because it literally makes one a slave to the government. </quote> The Red Army was fighting for freedom against a monarch, just like the Founding Fathers, which means you love communism and hate freedom and therefore hate America. Why are you so anti-American?</quote> Communism is inherently unfree, so they weren't fighting for freedom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 02/14/18 1:36:00 AM #44:	Mike_Stanton posted... not what the war was about Yes, it was, according to every historian/expert/rational person everywhere. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:896050140] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mike_Stanton posted...</cite> <quote>not what the war was about</quote> Yes, it was, according to every historian/expert/rational person everywhere.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 02/14/18 1:37:53 AM #45:	12 years a slave --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:896050211] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>12 years a slave</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 02/14/18 1:49:16 AM #46:	Sure, they owned slaves, but so did the Founding Fathers. - Indeed, but the inherent difference between the Confederacy and the Founding Fathers was that the Founding Fathers also advocated other points whereas the Confederacy essentially was all about preserving, protecting, and advancing their economic and society model that as entirely dependent upon a permanently enslaved underclass. In other words, the blemish of the Founders was the core of the Confederates. Do you really think the North was about civil rights? - No, the war was over economics, and the North didn't want the spread of unpaid slave labor to inhibit their capitalistic free market society. That being said, as the war progressed more and more of the North did view the cancerous nature of slavery as untenable with the system of American government and discourse and began to more stringently advocate for its abolition. haha nope...the only reason they had fewer slaves was because they had more factories to produce things, and the only reason they even went to war was to maintain the union. - Yes, they wanted to maintain the Union and prevent the disintegration of the nation that served as an ultimate protector for individual and economic rights. And last I checked, the South could've taken steps to modernize their economy at any time, but they refused to do so as they didn't want to upset their status quo built on the backs of enslaved blacks and marginalized poor whites. So.. way to not even make a point, at least your other sentences made easily refutable points rather than just be empty space. So the South just wanted more freedom...just like how the Founding Fathers wanted freedom from the Brits. - Name the freedoms that the South wanted, please. If you examine the Confederate constitution, it was an utter wash when it comes to states' rights, so that argument's an inherent no go. The only freedom they wanted was the right to own slaves, and I might also remind you that they specifically took away the state's right to abolish slavery within their own borders. If you would have sided with the North in the Civil War then you also would have sided with the Brits during the Revolutionary War. - Nope, this is a stupid take without merit, especially given a major feature of the war was in the North wanting to preserve the integrity of elections. So, way to fail. --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:896050596] in What was s... [t:76317081]...</cite> <quote>Sure, they owned slaves, but so did the Founding Fathers. - Indeed, but the inherent difference between the Confederacy and the Founding Fathers was that the Founding Fathers also advocated other points whereas the Confederacy essentially was all about preserving, protecting, and advancing their economic and society model that as entirely dependent upon a permanently enslaved underclass. In other words, the blemish of the Founders was the core of the Confederates. Do you really think the North was about civil rights? - No, the war was over economics, and the North didn't want the spread of unpaid slave labor to inhibit their capitalistic free market society. That being said, as the war progressed more and more of the North did view the cancerous nature of slavery as untenable with the system of American government and discourse and began to more stringently advocate for its abolition. haha nope...the only reason they had fewer slaves was because they had more factories to produce things, and the only reason they even went to war was to maintain the union. - Yes, they wanted to maintain the Union and prevent the disintegration of the nation that served as an ultimate protector for individual and economic rights. And last I checked, the South could've taken steps to modernize their economy at any time, but they refused to do so as they didn't want to upset their status quo built on the backs of enslaved blacks and marginalized poor whites. So.. way to not even make a point, at least your other sentences made easily refutable points rather than just be empty space. So the South just wanted more freedom...just like how the Founding Fathers wanted freedom from the Brits. - Name the freedoms that the South wanted, please. If you examine the Confederate constitution, it was an utter wash when it comes to states' rights, so that argument's an inherent no go. The only freedom they wanted was the right to own slaves, and I might also remind you that they specifically took away the state's right to abolish slavery within their own borders. If you would have sided with the North in the Civil War then you also would have sided with the Brits during the Revolutionary War. - Nope, this is a stupid take without merit, especially given a major feature of the war was in the North wanting to preserve the integrity of elections. So, way to fail.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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