Current Events > This country has long decided children being shot doesn't matter

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Im for gun control but after Newtown it became clear this country doesnt care how many people are shot.

Its a lost cause, no amount of dead children will make people care.

Were basically a death cult now that worships and glorifies death and war.
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I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise.

The right has made the choice that some dead children are an acceptable price for owning guns.
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Did you know that gelatin is made from boiled cow bones?

Now you know.
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Just look at all the liberals or democrats or whatever on this board....they all think its funny and a joke. Fuckin sickening going into some of these topics.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Did you know that gelatin is made from boiled cow bones?

Now you know.

I had bone marrow last month for the first time

shit was okay, but the texture really turned me off to it

granted it was a Vegas buffet so it obviously wasn't top of the line shit, but still, considering everything else there was bomb as hell, I'd like to think it was at least decent quality
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Muffinz0rz posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Did you know that gelatin is made from boiled cow bones?

Now you know.

I had bone marrow last month for the first time

shit was okay, but the texture really turned me off to it

granted it was a Vegas buffet so it obviously wasn't top of the line shit, but still, considering everything else there was bomb as hell, I'd like to think it was at least decent quality

You can buy bones from a butcher and scoop out the marrow after you bake them. It's very good for adding flavor to stews or soups.
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absurd sadism
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We get it. You value human lives and yeah, shockingly, most of us do.

Mentally ill people who want to kill are going to kill. You dont take away guns from law abiding citizens because one lunatic went off. We have a right to protect our property and our families.

Guess what? If Guns didnt exist that person finds another way to murder. What are we going to do? Ban common household items to prevent bombs from being made?

Ban cars? Ban knives? Ban sticks? Ban stones? Cut the hands off a baby when theyre born just in case they kill someone with their hands when they grow up???
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Just look at all the liberals or democrats or whatever on this board....they all think its funny and a joke. Fuckin sickening going into some of these topics.

If you're talking about this topic, there's nothing TC said even remotely indicating that he thinks it's funny or a joke.
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If Newtown didn't move legislators to action, nothing will.

More tweets about thoughts and prayers.
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Obviously the children weren't part of God's plan.
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Im not sure what you expect, tc. Do you think the police are going to go door to door and collect everyones gun or something?

ASithLord7 posted...

I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise.

The right has made the choice that some dead children are an acceptable price for owning guns.

And the left has made the choice that some dead children are an acceptable price for a women being able to murder another life because it is living in her body.
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a42ozslushie posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise.

The right has made the choice that some dead children are an acceptable price for owning guns.

And the left has made the choice that some dead children are an acceptable price for a women being able to murder another life because it is living in her body.

Ahhh now this is some primo shitposting.
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Caution999 posted...

Mentally ill people who want to kill are going to kill. You dont take away guns from law abiding citizens because one lunatic went off. We have a right to protect our property and our families.

Everyone has guns or nobody has guns. Those are the only two options in your head. Nothing else whatsoever. At all.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Just look at all the liberals or democrats or whatever on this board....they all think its funny and a joke. Fuckin sickening going into some of these topics.

What do you expect for them to say? Some bullshit thoughts and prayers?
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Gafemage posted...

gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Just look at all the liberals or democrats or whatever on this board....they all think its funny and a joke. Fuckin sickening going into some of these topics.

If you're talking about this topic, there's nothing TC said even remotely indicating that he thinks it's funny or a joke.

So then maybe I wasnt talking about this topic.....ever think about that?

A_Good_Boy posted...

What do you expect for them to say? Some bullshit thoughts and prayers?

As long as its not a joke, I couldnt fuckin care less. Id rather have people saying thoughts and prayers than making jokes about innocent little kids being murdered.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Just look at all the liberals or democrats or whatever on this board....they all think its funny and a joke. Fuckin sickening going into some of these topics.

I think it's sick that you'd use a topic where TC is obviously dead serious to troll the political affiliation you hate tbh

a42ozslushie posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise.

The right has made the choice that some dead children are an acceptable price for owning guns.

And the left has made the choice that some dead children are an acceptable price for a women being able to murder another life because it is living in her body.

Wait are you telling us that women shouldn't have the right to kill their babies?

What are you some kind of misogynist? Womans right to be irresponsible > babies life you bigot.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Gafemage posted...

gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Just look at all the liberals or democrats or whatever on this board....they all think its funny and a joke. Fuckin sickening going into some of these topics.

If you're talking about this topic, there's nothing TC said even remotely indicating that he thinks it's funny or a joke.

So then maybe I wasnt talking about this topic.....ever think about that?

"Fuckin sickening going into some of these topics" made it seem like you were, and obviously I considered the alternative, since I started my post with "if you're talking about this topic".
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Gafemage posted...

gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Just look at all the liberals or democrats or whatever on this board....they all think its funny and a joke. Fuckin sickening going into some of these topics.

If you're talking about this topic, there's nothing TC said even remotely indicating that he thinks it's funny or a joke.

He's trying to turn it around on OP so his side doesn't look like shit by comparison.
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I mean we can restrict guns all we want but it isnt gonna make a damn difference, hell, we do it with drugs but you still see people on the news dyin from heroine overdoses.

LinksLiege posted...

Caution999 posted...

Mentally ill people who want to kill are going to kill. You dont take away guns from law abiding citizens because one lunatic went off. We have a right to protect our property and our families.

Everyone has guns or nobody has guns. Those are the only two options in your head. Nothing else whatsoever. At all.

Slippery slope, pal. In all actuality, bombs are far more dangerous since they come with the possibility of setting it up to explode remotely. I seem to recall a terroist attack from a backpack up north.,..

Guess what you need to create a bomb? An internet connection and a trip to Lowes and some household items.

Guns you have to go through a background check at least. People that want to murder will murder - theyre not stupid
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Caution999 posted...

Ban cars? Ban knives? Ban sticks? Ban stones? Cut the hands off a baby when theyre born just in case they kill someone with their hands when they grow up???

Come on, man.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

So then maybe I wasnt talking about this topic.....ever think about that?

"I'm just gonna hop into this topic and spew random shit in it."

Good job.
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What? You guys are hilarious.

OP did no wrong with this topic and I have nothing against what he said. Just pointing out the majority of the topics on here have the trump/conservative bashers turning this all into a joke.

Someone from another country does something like this and its awful. Someone from here does something like this and its one big funny joke.

Hilarious.
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What's really surprising is that even after lawmakers were fired upon things still refused to change
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$$$>>>>>>>>.
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JlM posted...

Caution999 posted...

Ban cars? Ban knives? Ban sticks? Ban stones? Cut the hands off a baby when theyre born just in case they kill someone with their hands when they grow up???

Come on, man.

Hes not wrong. People dont need guns to kill. Swords, knives, and hands do the job perfectly well.

ASithLord7 posted...

I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise.

The right has made the choice that some dead children are an acceptable price for owning guns.

Plenty of people on the left say that they just want some more restrictions on guns but don't want to ban them completely. Since you won't prevent 100% mass shootings, this is simply a disagreement on what the appropriate number of lives is in exchange for an appropriate level of gun rights. Except the left likes get up on their high horse and pretend they're morally righteous.

We have no problem accepting that, because of the 4th and 5th amendments, there are going to be times where we're unable prevent or punish some dangerous criminals. If not for the 4th amendment, there are instances where police could have prevented heinous crimes and saved lives. But we accept this as a price to pay to live in a free society.

You could make similar arguments for other amendments, but somehow the second one is the only one that's ever under attack.
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PixelJumper posted...

JlM posted...

Caution999 posted...

Ban cars? Ban knives? Ban sticks? Ban stones? Cut the hands off a baby when theyre born just in case they kill someone with their hands when they grow up???

Come on, man.

Hes not wrong. People dont need guns to kill. Swords, knives, and hands do the job perfectly well.

But guns do WAY better. It's pretty rare that someone gets stabbed by someone 20 yards away. It's a but harder to get a car into a school and go classroom to classroom murdering people with it.

The "everything is a viable weapon as much as a gun" is absolutely silly and everyone knows it.
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Bombs can kill way more people than a handgun in a central location
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DifferentialEquation posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise.

The right has made the choice that some dead children are an acceptable price for owning guns.

Plenty of people on the left say that they just want some more restrictions on guns but don't want to ban them completely. Since you won't prevent 100% mass shootings, this is simply a disagreement on what the appropriate number of lives is in exchange for an appropriate level of gun rights. Except the left likes get up on their high horse and pretend they're morally righteous.

We have no problem accepting that, because of the 4th and 5th amendments, there are going to be times where we're unable prevent or punish some dangerous criminals. If not for the 4th amendment, there are instances where police could have prevented heinous crimes and saved lives. But we accept this as a price to pay to live in a free society.

You could make similar arguments for other amendments, but somehow the second one is the only one that's ever under attack.

The problem is not "the second one"; the problem is you can go buy a gun on walmart no problem when it's a murder tool and clearly needs background checks and procedures before getting one.

Literally everywhere else in the west does it and literally everywhere else in the west is way safer as a result.
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Caution999 posted...

Bombs can kill way more people than a handgun in a central location

in what state are bombs legal to own so I know where to move
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JlM posted...

PixelJumper posted...

JlM posted...

Caution999 posted...

Ban cars? Ban knives? Ban sticks? Ban stones? Cut the hands off a baby when theyre born just in case they kill someone with their hands when they grow up???

Come on, man.

Hes not wrong. People dont need guns to kill. Swords, knives, and hands do the job perfectly well.

But guns do WAY better. It's pretty rare that someone gets stabbed by someone 20 yards away. It's a bit harder to get a car into a school and go classroom to classroom murdering people with it.

The "everything is a viable weapon as much as a gun" is absolutely silly and everyone knows it.

Everything isnt just as viable as a gun, no, but ultimately can still be used. There have been mass knife killings before and some of the most successful serial killers only ever used their hands.

By no means am I saying we should be carrying AR-15s on the street but giving guns more restrictions isnt necessarily going to stop crazies from getting them or something else and killing people anyway.

ASithLord7 posted...

I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise.

The right has made the choice that some dead children are an acceptable price for owning guns.

Only as long as it's after they're born
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JlM posted...

PixelJumper posted...

JlM posted...

Caution999 posted...

Ban cars? Ban knives? Ban sticks? Ban stones? Cut the hands off a baby when theyre born just in case they kill someone with their hands when they grow up???

Come on, man.

Hes not wrong. People dont need guns to kill. Swords, knives, and hands do the job perfectly well.

But guns do WAY better. It's pretty rare that someone gets stabbed by someone 20 yards away. It's a bit harder to get a car into a school and go classroom to classroom murdering people with it.

The "everything is a viable weapon as much as a gun" is absolutely silly and everyone knows it.

Ninjas can kill people by using their hair as throwing projectiles. Let that sink in.

The ninjas, not the projectiles
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hortanz posted...

Caution999 posted...

Bombs can kill way more people than a handgun in a central location

in what state are bombs legal to own so I know where to move

Legal in every state as you can create one with household items and some directions from the internet. Now, once its operational, obviously illegal...but how do you propose we monitor that???
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Ninjas can kill people by using their hair as throwing projectiles. Let that sink in

No they can't
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Caution999 posted...

hortanz posted...

Caution999 posted...

Bombs can kill way more people than a handgun in a central location

in what state are bombs legal to own so I know where to move

Legal in every state as you can create one with household items and some directions from the internet. Now, once its operational, obviously illegal...but how do you propose we monitor that???

How often do homemade bomb attacks happen? They clearly aren't a problem.
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Caution999 posted...

hortanz posted...

Caution999 posted...

Bombs can kill way more people than a handgun in a central location

in what state are bombs legal to own so I know where to move

Legal in every state as you can create one with household items and some directions from the internet. Now, once its operational, obviously illegal...but how do you propose we monitor that???

might as well start selling bombs at walmart since people can get their hands on them anyways
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JlM posted...

The "everything is a viable weapon as much as a gun" is absolutely silly and everyone knows it.

you make due with what you have. not to say guns arnt easier, but that didnt stop 86 people from getting run over in paris and 19 people from getting stabbed to death in japan the same year. people will find the means to do what they want and where they want to maximize the casualties.

YoungMutual posted...

The problem is not "the second one"; the problem is you can go buy a gun on walmart no problem

you have to go through all if the processes you would with an FFL. that means a valid instate ID and a background check. Walmart is not exempt from this.
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Tmaster148 posted...

Caution999 posted...

hortanz posted...

Caution999 posted...

Bombs can kill way more people than a handgun in a central location

in what state are bombs legal to own so I know where to move

Legal in every state as you can create one with household items and some directions from the internet. Now, once its operational, obviously illegal...but how do you propose we monitor that???

How often do homemade bomb attacks happen? They clearly aren't a problem.

Literally the only "household" bomb incident I can think of was the Boston Marathon
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Fin_Dawg_004 posted...

Caution999 posted...

hortanz posted...

Caution999 posted...

Bombs can kill way more people than a handgun in a central location

in what state are bombs legal to own so I know where to move

Legal in every state as you can create one with household items and some directions from the internet. Now, once its operational, obviously illegal...but how do you propose we monitor that???

might as well start selling bombs at walmart since people can get their hands on them anyways

Put them next to the Tide Pods

YoungMutual posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise.

The right has made the choice that some dead children are an acceptable price for owning guns.

Plenty of people on the left say that they just want some more restrictions on guns but don't want to ban them completely. Since you won't prevent 100% mass shootings, this is simply a disagreement on what the appropriate number of lives is in exchange for an appropriate level of gun rights. Except the left likes get up on their high horse and pretend they're morally righteous.

We have no problem accepting that, because of the 4th and 5th amendments, there are going to be times where we're unable prevent or punish some dangerous criminals. If not for the 4th amendment, there are instances where police could have prevented heinous crimes and saved lives. But we accept this as a price to pay to live in a free society.

You could make similar arguments for other amendments, but somehow the second one is the only one that's ever under attack.

The problem is not "the second one"; the problem is you can go buy a gun on walmart no problem when it's a murder tool and clearly needs background checks and procedures before getting one.

Literally everywhere else in the west does it and literally everywhere else in the west is way safer as a result.

I've had to go through a background check every time I've purchased a firearm. I haven't bought one from Walmart, but I don't know why they wouldn't have to follow the same laws as Cabela's or a gun shop.

Walmart has also apparently stopped selling the "assault-style rifles" that gun control advocates are so against: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/27/business/walmart-to-end-sales-of-assault-rifles-in-us-stores.html

Walmart also does not sell handguns which are the ones most used in murders.
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Already forgot about the Boston Marathon bro?

Or the suicide bombers all over the Middle East ?

Or Timothy McVeigh?

Or hell remember 9/11? Bad people wanted to murder others and they found a way to do it without guns. They used planes as the vehicle for an explosion -the planes became a bomb in a way.

Didnt that nut job who shot up the Dark Knight also HAVE BOMBS in his apartment?

Or Columbine - they had tried to detonate bombs and luckily failed
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"We can't stop it completely so why even try?"

seriously? this is the best argument?
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DifferentialEquation posted...

YoungMutual posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise.

The right has made the choice that some dead children are an acceptable price for owning guns.

Plenty of people on the left say that they just want some more restrictions on guns but don't want to ban them completely. Since you won't prevent 100% mass shootings, this is simply a disagreement on what the appropriate number of lives is in exchange for an appropriate level of gun rights. Except the left likes get up on their high horse and pretend they're morally righteous.

We have no problem accepting that, because of the 4th and 5th amendments, there are going to be times where we're unable prevent or punish some dangerous criminals. If not for the 4th amendment, there are instances where police could have prevented heinous crimes and saved lives. But we accept this as a price to pay to live in a free society.

You could make similar arguments for other amendments, but somehow the second one is the only one that's ever under attack.

The problem is not "the second one"; the problem is you can go buy a gun on walmart no problem when it's a murder tool and clearly needs background checks and procedures before getting one.

Literally everywhere else in the west does it and literally everywhere else in the west is way safer as a result.

I've had to go through a background check every time I've purchased a firearm. I haven't bought one from Walmart, but I don't know why they wouldn't have to follow the same laws as Cabela's or a gun shop.

Walmart has also apparently stopped selling the "assault-style rifles" that gun control advocates are so against: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/27/business/walmart-to-end-sales-of-assault-rifles-in-us-stores.html

Walmart also does not sell handguns which are the ones most used in murders.

Okay then it's time to disarm america, you don't need your dumb guns as much as the kids need their lives. Fuck off.
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Fin_Dawg_004 posted...

seriously? this is the best argument?

It's the only argument they have which even sort of almost approaches being reasonable.
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Fin_Dawg_004 posted...

"We can't stop it completely so why even try?"

seriously? this is the best argument?

I think its more of a Gun dont kill people, people kill people, so stop restricting guns and deal with the people argument.