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NINExATExSEVEN 02/15/18 1:30:24 PM #52: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...So a Hispanic guy who killed white people was part of a white supremacist group??? Does he have mental health problems? It's like 8 out of 10 of these shooters look like they have something wrong in their head. It's their eyes and face that look off. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendary_zell 02/15/18 1:30:54 PM #53: |
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So a Hispanic guy who killed white people was part of a white supremacist group??? I really feel like you've gone off the deep end in the last few months. You've become angrier and more conspiracy driven. I felt like you were at least somewhat reasonable in the past but now you're more and more absorbed in grievance and identity politics. Dude, they independently admitted that he trained with them, what is the reason for this post? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 02/15/18 1:31:10 PM #54: |
Meanwhile, the administration at my university is protecting a known white supremacist who can be seen in pictures of Charlottesville attacking counter-protestors and released videos about how much he loves violence who they don't see as a "safety threat".
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NINExATExSEVEN 02/15/18 1:31:43 PM #55: |
Zodd3224 posted...
Hinakuluiau posted... Shouldn't we focus on both? --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 02/15/18 1:32:13 PM #56: |
legendary_zell posted...
I really feel like you've gone off the deep end in the last few months. You've become angrier and more conspiracy driven. I felt like you were at least somewhat reasonable in the past but now you're more and more absorbed in grievance and identity politics. Dude, they independently admitted that he trained with them, what is the reason for this post? IIRC he's openly stated he recruits for alt-right/white nationalist causes online --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Near_ 02/15/18 1:32:51 PM #57: |
We should focus on both, the administration backed off pursuing right wing terrorists.
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ImTheMacheteGuy 02/15/18 1:32:57 PM #58: |
Caution999 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...But blm and antifa D: For the most part, exactly, though they have a few outlying bad apples of course. I'm glad we finally agree on something. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 02/15/18 1:33:23 PM #59: |
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...Caution999 posted... Facts don't exist in a vacuum. The manner that facts are presented and the context that they're used in can determine if those facts are being used in a manner to elicit racism. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 02/15/18 1:34:16 PM #60: |
_Near_ posted...
We should focus on both, the administration backed off pursuing right wing terrorists. Because he considers them to be good people. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendary_zell 02/15/18 1:34:26 PM #61: |
Doom_Art posted...
legendary_zell posted...I really feel like you've gone off the deep end in the last few months. You've become angrier and more conspiracy driven. I felt like you were at least somewhat reasonable in the past but now you're more and more absorbed in grievance and identity politics. Dude, they independently admitted that he trained with them, what is the reason for this post? Yeah, I've seen him gleefully say that things will drive more people towards white nationalist causes. I remember when I first noticed him on this board, he seemed to just be a guy with questionable views on social issues, but now...he's this. I guess this mirrors the radicalization happening online and throughout the country. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 02/15/18 1:34:49 PM #62: |
Zodd3224 posted...
Hinakuluiau posted... Yes --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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apocalyptic_4 02/15/18 1:35:07 PM #63: |
Caution999 posted...
No, it's stupid shit like this that makes the "problem" of white supremacy appear more widespread than it really is. This is utter bullshit, and Antifar knows it. Anything to push his fucking dumbass narrative that makes this a white person problem. That's what this is. His way of suggesting that radical Islamic terrorism is no big deal. When it's the other way around you go along with it. Just keep yourself quiet --- PSN: Adrian396 XBL: Prime Legacy Nintendo ID: Apocalypse ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NINExATExSEVEN 02/15/18 1:35:37 PM #64: |
legendary_zell posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...So a Hispanic guy who killed white people was part of a white supremacist group??? No i'm still the same i just don't act PC anymore so i come off as in your face. From first glance it didn't make sense. A Hispanic guy (found out he's not Hispanic) who was a part of a white supremacist group went out and killed white people who he should be defending no? Sometimes you just need more details before you try to confirm to yourself that something is just as it reads. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruelBuffalo 02/15/18 1:35:43 PM #65: |
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...NINExATExSEVEN posted...So a Hispanic guy who killed white people was part of a white supremacist group??? You sure did a 180 real quick. Gotta find a new avenue huh? Also to treat mental health we need funding and we need to provide it to all people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 02/15/18 1:36:32 PM #66: |
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Does he have mental health problems? Unfortunately, people aren't willing to address the fact that being a member of a white supremacist group likely means you have mental health problems. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 02/15/18 1:36:40 PM #67: |
legendary_zell posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...So a Hispanic guy who killed white people was part of a white supremacist group??? I'm not sure why he's even questioning why a hispanic guy (Who he in fact isn't) would get involved with nazis when he himself claims to be non-white while constantly arguing in favor of white nationalism ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Near_ 02/15/18 1:36:56 PM #68: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
_Near_ posted...We should focus on both, the administration backed off pursuing right wing terrorists. yeah, he can't start imprisoning his voting base. --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NINExATExSEVEN 02/15/18 1:37:04 PM #69: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...A_Good_Boy posted...Caution999 posted... Well yea, but on their own they're not politically biased. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 02/15/18 1:37:45 PM #70: |
Caution999 posted...
Nothing is false, but you love to make it appear that white supremacy is this HUGE nationwide problem when you know it's not even 1% So that other user is incorrect for posting "fake news," as far as you're concerned, as it's not fake news. I'm glad we finally agree on 2 things in a row. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 02/15/18 1:38:06 PM #71: |
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...NINExATExSEVEN posted... I just said they don't exist in a vacuum. Why is reading so hard for you? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NINExATExSEVEN 02/15/18 1:38:42 PM #72: |
legendary_zell posted...
Doom_Art posted...legendary_zell posted...I really feel like you've gone off the deep end in the last few months. You've become angrier and more conspiracy driven. I felt like you were at least somewhat reasonable in the past but now you're more and more absorbed in grievance and identity politics. Dude, they independently admitted that he trained with them, what is the reason for this post? I believe in nationalism for Europe, not America. I don't care for it in the states. It benefits nobody in America. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 02/15/18 1:39:26 PM #73: |
So any confirmation to this? The article itself says this isn't definitive and it seems entirely based on claims made by the group.
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Bio1590 02/15/18 1:40:21 PM #74: |
The Admiral posted...
So any confirmation to this? The article itself says this isn't definitive and it seems entirely based on claims made by the group. It's not like they're ISIS, they don't gain anything by lying here. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tony_Biggie_Pun 02/15/18 1:40:50 PM #75: |
Blue_Inigo posted...
Trump emboldened these fucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NINExATExSEVEN 02/15/18 1:41:04 PM #76: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...A_Good_Boy posted...NINExATExSEVEN posted... You said that how facts are used can be racist. I'm telling you that on their own they are not racist. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 02/15/18 1:41:41 PM #77: |
Bio1590 posted...
The Admiral posted...So any confirmation to this? The article itself says this isn't definitive and it seems entirely based on claims made by the group. They gain exposure and attention, which is exactly the same reason ISIS takes credit for everything. That's why I'm not buying these accounts without evidence. The ADL isn't buying them based on that yet, either, to their credit. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StormSignal 02/15/18 1:43:31 PM #78: |
wow no way wow i cant believe this shocking wow dang wow
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Zodd3224 02/15/18 1:44:09 PM #79: |
The Admiral posted...
Bio1590 posted...The Admiral posted...So any confirmation to this? The article itself says this isn't definitive and it seems entirely based on claims made by the group. Yes. It could be BS. --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 02/15/18 1:44:49 PM #80: |
The leader of the group telling it to several outlets including the AP seems like decent enough confirmation to me.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/florida/articles/2018-02-15/the-latest-florida-school-shooting-suspect-booked-in-jail The leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz was a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee. Particularly when combined with https://www.thedailybeast.com/nikolas-cruz-trained-with-florida-white-supremacist-group-leader-says/ He always wore like really patriotic shirts that seemed really extreme, like hating on the Islamic religion. For example, he would say things such as like, he would degrade islamic people as terrorists and bombers," Parodie said. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 02/15/18 1:47:37 PM #81: |
Bio1590 posted...
The Admiral posted...So any confirmation to this? The article itself says this isn't definitive and it seems entirely based on claims made by the group. They get notoriety and bragging rights about their training exercises (which the leader claims played a part in the shooting). This did start on 4chan by ROF members, and one of them posted a picture of two members claiming that one of them is the shooter. It's clearly not him in the picture. This could be a 4chan troll on the media. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/15/18 1:47:53 PM #82: |
The usual suspects acting suspicious.
And this website will mod me for calling them racists despite these people constantly defending this shit. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 02/15/18 1:48:36 PM #83: |
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...NINExATExSEVEN posted... You have a literacy problem bro? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 02/15/18 1:49:06 PM #84: |
While it's certainly possible that's a lie given his use of racial slurs this description of them
The Republic of Florida Militia (ROF) appears to be a small neo-Confederate and anti-gun control militia group, located in the Tallahassee area of Florida. The ROF militia claims to be "the armed forces of the provisional government of the Republic of Florida" and the "prime force at arms to protect the republic." and Cruz's obsession with guns I'd say it's reasonable to believe it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 02/15/18 1:49:09 PM #85: |
Antifar posted...
Jordan Jereb told The Associated Press on Thursday that his group, the Republic of Florida, wants Florida to become its own white ethno-state. He said his group holds "spontaneous random demonstrations" and tries not to participate in the modern world. Well, that Jordan Jereb guy does have some "interesting" views on race relations, to say the least (starting around 4:35): So that does seem like a real guy from this group, at least. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 02/15/18 1:49:59 PM #86: |
Kineth doesnt even have the balls to keep me off ignore and we are supposed to believe he has the balls to call people racists?
Hmm --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 02/15/18 1:51:28 PM #87: |
Caution999 posted...
Kineth doesnt even have the balls to keep me off ignore and we are supposed to believe he has the calls to call people racists? This is the 2nd topic in just as many days where you're melting down because people are talking shit about white supremacists. Nobody's calling you a racist but you seem to have an issue with telling on yourself. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 02/15/18 1:51:42 PM #88: |
The Admiral posted...
Skipped to 2:15, caught this "if you look at all the attacks the left has had against me, simply for having a difference of opinion..." ah, he's going with the Big Logic route. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/15/18 1:53:01 PM #89: |
lol, Caution's tears about me having him on ignore. Maybe if he didn't post racist shit and be an insufferable person, I wouldn't have him on ignore.
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Mal_Fet 02/15/18 1:53:06 PM #90: |
_Near_ posted...
As a country we've shown that we're not willing to take steps to curb right wing terrorism. It outnumbers Islamic terrorism 2 to 1, but we're too busy trying to ban Muslims to care about that. As a percentage of population, Muslims represent WAY more terrorist attacks than any other group in the country. 3% of the population producing half as many acts of terror as ~50% of the population does is pretty astounding. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreatEvilEmpire 02/15/18 1:53:28 PM #91: |
You know what other reason why he planned this attack?
It's Valentine's Day and there are stories that he had girl trouble with one of the girls in the school. Maybe it had nothing to do with anything else other than the fact that he's a loser and couldn't handle rejection. Everyone is trying to link him to a political party, but forgot that he planned the attack on Valentine's Day and killed a bunch of white people. --- Sig under construction! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 02/15/18 1:53:30 PM #92: |
Antifar posted...
The Admiral posted... He starts in with the racism at around 4:35. This guy is an idiot. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 02/15/18 1:53:44 PM #93: |
This should be easy to verify by researching his travel history.
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LordRazziel 02/15/18 1:53:50 PM #94: |
Caution999 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...But blm and antifa D: So are white supremacist groups a problem? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/15/18 1:54:00 PM #95: |
Mal_Fet posted...
_Near_ posted...As a country we've shown that we're not willing to take steps to curb right wing terrorism. It outnumbers Islamic terrorism 2 to 1, but we're too busy trying to ban Muslims to care about that. So does this mean that police do shoot black people at a higher rate? --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NINExATExSEVEN 02/15/18 1:56:33 PM #96: |
LordRazziel posted...
Caution999 posted...ImTheMacheteGuy posted...But blm and antifa D: Yes they are. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 02/15/18 1:56:57 PM #97: |
Kineth posted...
Mal_Fet posted..._Near_ posted...As a country we've shown that we're not willing to take steps to curb right wing terrorism. It outnumbers Islamic terrorism 2 to 1, but we're too busy trying to ban Muslims to care about that. I have no idea what police shootings of black people have to do with anything, but https://www.nber.org/papers/w22399 ^ tl;dr: white people are more likely to be shot by police than black people in similar situations. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NINExATExSEVEN 02/15/18 1:59:39 PM #98: |
Mal_Fet posted...
Kineth posted...Mal_Fet posted..._Near_ posted...As a country we've shown that we're not willing to take steps to curb right wing terrorism. It outnumbers Islamic terrorism 2 to 1, but we're too busy trying to ban Muslims to care about that. But are they more likely to get shot because they outnumber black people 5 to 1 or because they are white? --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/15/18 2:00:26 PM #99: |
Mal_Fet posted...
Kineth posted...Mal_Fet posted..._Near_ posted...As a country we've shown that we're not willing to take steps to curb right wing terrorism. It outnumbers Islamic terrorism 2 to 1, but we're too busy trying to ban Muslims to care about that. Ah, so you only selectively understand what per capita means. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 02/15/18 2:00:35 PM #100: |
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Mal_Fet posted...Kineth posted...Mal_Fet posted..._Near_ posted...As a country we've shown that we're not willing to take steps to curb right wing terrorism. It outnumbers Islamic terrorism 2 to 1, but we're too busy trying to ban Muslims to care about that. The results control for population size. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 02/15/18 2:01:02 PM #101: |
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
You know what other reason why he planned this attack? GreatEvilEmpire posted... https://web.archive.org/web/20180214212957/https://www.instagram.com/cruz_nikolas/ ...did you really just post that after posting this last night. You literally said a guy had links to islam when he called them slurs and said he was linked to communism. Lmao are you fucking kidding me right now ... Copied to Clipboard!
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