Current Events > Congress is looking to, uh, weaken the Americans with Disabilities Act

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prince_leo
02/15/18 6:29:31 PM
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now I know why I read an article earlier this week detailing the history of the ADA
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 7:01:06 PM
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gmanthebest posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
Even without abuse, one can understand the burden on business to be ready for any disability that may come in at any given time rather than being allowed to focus on those that are a more regular occurrence for their location and clientele. I'm disabled and I don't see this as evil. A bit self serving and inconvenient for me at times, sure, but not evil.

I remember in Penn & Teller's Bullshit, they put someone in an iron lung and got him to go to different places (in L.A., I think. Could be wrong). Not a lot were accessible to him.

That bullshit episode was bullshit. The ADA protects much more than what they criticized there, which was basically just ramps and handicap parking. Imagine a blind person having to prove they are somehow working on "getting better" just to keep their job. Just one more step towards Nazi Germany here.
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LordRazziel
02/15/18 7:03:54 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
gmanthebest posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
Even without abuse, one can understand the burden on business to be ready for any disability that may come in at any given time rather than being allowed to focus on those that are a more regular occurrence for their location and clientele. I'm disabled and I don't see this as evil. A bit self serving and inconvenient for me at times, sure, but not evil.

I remember in Penn & Teller's Bullshit, they put someone in an iron lung and got him to go to different places (in L.A., I think. Could be wrong). Not a lot were accessible to him.

That bullshit episode was bullshit. The ADA protects much more than what they criticized there, which was basically just ramps and handicap parking. Imagine a blind person having to prove they are somehow working on "getting better" just to keep their job. Just one more step towards Nazi Germany here.

Saw that one too. The ADA specifically says reasonable accommodation .
I liked that show, but they often pushed their agenda with their own bullshit.
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Antifar
02/15/18 7:07:35 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Interesting. 1990 was GHW Bush. Why did the Republicans suddenly change their minds?

27 years is hardly suddenly. But the party has undoubtedly moved to the right over the past few decades.
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 7:12:27 PM
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Right over to straight up fascism. These assholes are ridiculous.
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eston
02/15/18 7:13:21 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
The changes being made put the onus of making businesses comply with the ADA on the disabled people who the ADA is supposed to be serving. Thats insane and completely fucks over people who are disabled.

This. The fact that the complainant is personally responsible for making sure the business complies is ludicrous.
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 7:19:37 PM
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Shut up fender.
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r4X0r
02/15/18 7:21:07 PM
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All this does is protect business owners from people looking to hit the lawsuit lottery by going "they discriminated against me!" Now businesses will have to be informed in writing that changes need to be made to their facilities, and they will have six months to comply. THE HORROR!

Like most things, the moaning about it is largely because it's Trump. If it were Obama, you'd all be applauding his move to protect job creators while preserving the rights of the disabled.
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Antifar
02/15/18 7:23:19 PM
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r4X0r posted...
If it were Obama, you'd all be applauding his move to protect job creators while preserving the rights of the disabled.

The rights of the disabled are not protected if they have to go through a lengthy bureaucratic process to secure what are now basic accommodations.
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legendary_zell
02/15/18 7:34:27 PM
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r4X0r posted...
All this does is protect business owners from people looking to hit the lawsuit lottery by going "they discriminated against me!" Now businesses will have to be informed in writing that changes need to be made to their facilities, and they will have six months to comply. THE HORROR!

Like most things, the moaning about it is largely because it's Trump. If it were Obama, you'd all be applauding his move to protect job creators while preserving the rights of the disabled.


There is no lawsuit lottery when it comes to this. You can't even get money damages in ADA cases. The easiest way to prevent these lawsuits it to make your place of business accessible. Again, they've had since 1990.
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P4wn4g3
02/15/18 7:42:04 PM
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It's basically a step towards segregation. I mean I've always figured that if we just made all the ultra right people move to like Puerto Rico or Guam or something we'd be better off.
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