Current Events > The worst Nintendo-made 2D Mario platformer will always be Super Mario Land

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Ironically SML2 is one of the very best
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I still like it better than SMB2, but I understand the argument.
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Even when it was new I thought it was crap. Felt like a ridiculously cheap knock-off of Mario made by people who had only just learnt how to make a game.

Like you said, though, 2 was fantastic, up there with Mario World if you ask me.
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It looks and runs like a Mario game programmed for a TI-83
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Land was mediocre, Land 2 was outright bad.
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It's hard to compare it to other Mario games because it's a fraction of the size. That said, I'd rather play it for 20 minutes to half an hour than to play Lost Levels for that length of time.

Lost Levels is truly the worst 2D platformer in the Mario library. Just because a game is difficult, that doesn't mean it can't be fun. But that one isn't even well structured and it offers nothing new aside from strong gusts of wind and a cloud level background.

Super Mario Land 3 was the worst

Mario looked all fat and deformed
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I wholeheartedly disagree. SMB 2 was absolute trash.
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Ah, topic title does say Nintendo made. SMB2 was not really made by Nintendo...
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Ah, topic title does say Nintendo made. SMB2 was not really made by Nintendo...

Think he's talking about Lost Levels (Japanese Mario 2).
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I mean, yes, but I still have a lot of nostalgia for it. I was one of the kids who had a Game Boy instead of a NES.
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I never minded SMB2
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pojr posted...

Super Mario Land 3 was the worst

Mario looked all fat and deformed

They also had that weird typo where the M was upside down.

I've always wondered why NOBODY talks about Mario Land
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Land is fine for what it is, a short Mario romp through an unfamiliar land

Land 2 is the piece of shit that tries to be like the console games and fails horribly in physics and style alike

Coffeebeanz posted...

It looks and runs like a Mario game programmed for a TI-83

YES
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who feels this way
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The only 2D SMB games still worth playing are SMB3 and SMW.

Second_Chances posted...

Land is fine for what it is, a short Mario romp through an unfamiliar land

Land 2 is the piece of shit that tries to be like the console games and fails horribly in physics and style alike

Land doesn't even feel like a Mario game. It's has completely messed up jump dynamics and collision detection.
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I loved playing Super Mario Land when I was a kid.

I would love to see King Totomesu and Tatanga make a come back some day.
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Nintendo did make Yume Kojo Doki Doki Panic, before it was even Mario.

the fuck? Land was great

Land 2 and 3 were really strange
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Mario Land 2 was good for a quick Mario fix on the go. Nice level variety and not just a copy pasta of previous games enemy wise.
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Huh? I didn't even know a Mario Land 3 even existed until I read this topic...
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I spent hours upon hours playing Super Mario Land on my brick Game Boy as a 5-6 year old.
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Super Mario Land is straight garbage. The guy who said it felt like a game on a calculator is completely right.

People dislike SMB2? That has to be some sort of "I was born in 1996 and Super Mario Sunshine was my first Mario." opinion, right?

Youngster_Joey_ posted...

People dislike SMB2? That has to be some sort of "I was born in 1996 and Super Mario Sunshine was my first Mario." opinion, right?

My whole family thought SMB2 was rubbish back when it was new. Weirdly though I now really like it.
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The first time I actually played Super Mario Land I thought it was a chinese knock off.

The physics are weird, it messes up a lot of iconic Mario stuff (Can Can music replacing the Star Theme, hearts for 1-ups, Fireballs acting like super balls, the weird sphynxs in the first level)

Like it literally felt like a different game that just had Mario slapped on or something.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

It looks and runs like a Mario game programmed for a TI-83

That is pretty much what it was. I guess people well still getting familiar with what the GB could do back then, the green screen and portability made them underestimate it.

I still enjoy that game a lot

Coffeebeanz posted...

Second_Chances posted...

Land is fine for what it is, a short Mario romp through an unfamiliar land

Land 2 is the piece of shit that tries to be like the console games and fails horribly in physics and style alike

Land doesn't even feel like a Mario game. It's has completely messed up jump dynamics and collision detection.

Yes. It feels like it shouldnt be a Mario game. The fireball is actually a bouncing ball LOL

Gameboy was my first console and SML was my first game for it. Whats bad about it?

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Gameboy was my first console and SML was my first game for it. Whats bad about it?

For my money, nothing.

I do think they should have taken five minutes to translate the character names, and I've one reviewer nitpick the jumping mechanics, but I've never had a problem with the game. It's essentially Super Mario Bros. Lite.

If you replaced Mario's Sprite, it would be indistinguishable as a Mario game.
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Okay.

It was still fun.

I liked SML and it had catchy music.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Okay.

It was still fun.

It aged like 30 year old yogurt.

Try playing it now, objectively. It highlights just how vastly superior Super Mario Bros was. The mechanics are nearly broken. The level design is terrible. The collision detection with enemies and terrain is like some guy programming a game with visual basic.
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I played it a few years ago. I had fun with ot.

Never said it was better than any Super Mario game that came begore it. My experience with them is very limited.

Wait, what?

Super Mario Land 2 was fucking fantastic. People are saying it's worse than 1?
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Coffeebeanz posted...

If you replaced Mario's Sprite, it would be indistinguishable as a Mario game.

The game has Koopas and Goombas. (Sorta.)

I think it was a wise decision to have an original cast of adversaries. I think it disguises the limitations a bit since you don't have expectations as to how many enemies should be on the screen at one time or how they should be arranged.

I love Super Mario Land 2, but there are moments where I feel like I'm playing a lesser version of a console game. The first game doesn't have that problem.

Skye Reynolds posted...

It's hard to compare it to other Mario games because it's a fraction of the size. That said, I'd rather play it for 20 minutes to half an hour than to play Lost Levels for that length of time.

Lost Levels is truly the worst 2D platformer in the Mario library. Just because a game is difficult, that doesn't mean it can't be fun. But that one isn't even well structured and it offers nothing new aside from strong gusts of wind and a cloud level background.

They changed how jumps work in the game as well. I don't remember the specifics but it's actually harder to fix a bad jump and save yourself. I only know of this because I've seen darbian streaming before.

It's been like a year and a half since he did his first successful Mario power hour. 6 games (1, lost levels, 2, 3, world and 64) in under an hour. And all on the same TV, possibly system for the first 4. So he had to be precise with the end run times and immediately having the next game/ system up and running.
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I never noticed a difference in jumping. Mario's jumping tends to differ from game to game and it's not like the platforming is exactly hard. You might fall to your death once or twice, but that can happen in any Mario game.

flat_tyre posted...

Huh? I didn't even know a Mario Land 3 even existed until I read this topic...

It's called Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land. Maybe that sounds more familiar?
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This topic is responsible for reminding me of this. My poor family have had to suffer me beatboxing it the entire day >_>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4tJjYMSe9M

scar the 1 posted...

flat_tyre posted...

Huh? I didn't even know a Mario Land 3 even existed until I read this topic...

It's called Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land. Maybe that sounds more familiar?

Ahhhhhhhhh I never knew that was ML3. I always knew it just as Wario Land. Thanks!
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