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NeonOctopus 02/18/18 11:55:27 AM #1:	Super Saiyan 1 = x50 base level Super Saiyan 2 = x2 Super Saiyan 1 (x100 base level) Super Saiyan 3 = x4 Super Saiyan 2 (x400 base level) What's the official multipliers for God, Blue, and Ultra Instinct? >_> --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:896311057] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>Super Saiyan 1 = x50 base level Super Saiyan 2 = x2 Super Saiyan 1 (x100 base level) Super Saiyan 3 = x4 Super Saiyan 2 (x400 base level) What's the official multipliers for God, Blue, and Ultra Instinct? >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 02/18/18 11:56:50 AM #2:	NeonOctopus posted... Super Saiyan 1 = x50 base level No --- Drawn for me: Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy + Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m dont lose your wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:896311127] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>Super Saiyan 1 = x50 base level</quote> No</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 02/18/18 11:59:03 AM #3:	Kaname_Madoka posted... NeonOctopus posted... Super Saiyan 1 = x50 base level No yes --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:896311236] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>Super Saiyan 1 = x50 base level</quote> No</quote> yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkzero297 02/18/18 11:59:46 AM #4:	Kaname_Madoka posted... NeonOctopus posted... Super Saiyan 1 = x50 base level No I believe you may be wrong. As far as I am aware, before power levels dropped off as a concept in Dragonball, the math of Goku's and Frieza's power levels do work out to that sort of multiplier. --- Kirbyhameha!!! (>")>(())>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>)) <cite>darkzero297 posted [p:896311272] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>Super Saiyan 1 = x50 base level</quote> No</quote> I believe you may be wrong. As far as I am aware, before power levels dropped off as a concept in Dragonball, the math of Goku's and Frieza's power levels do work out to that sort of multiplier.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Game_Fan09 02/18/18 12:00:21 PM #5:	Isn't there a SS4 before the SS god thing? --- Currently playing: GoW: UE, MGS V, Arkham Knight and The Witcher 3. <cite>Game_Fan09 posted [p:896311303] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>Isn't there a SS4 before the SS god thing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 02/18/18 12:00:41 PM #6:	darkzero297 posted... Kaname_Madoka posted... NeonOctopus posted... Super Saiyan 1 = x50 base level No I believe you may be wrong. As far as I am aware, before power levels dropped off as a concept in Dragonball, the math of Goku's and Frieza's power levels do work out to that sort of multiplier. Those multipliers came from some official book apparently >_> --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:896311326] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkzero297 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>Super Saiyan 1 = x50 base level</quote> No</quote> I believe you may be wrong. As far as I am aware, before power levels dropped off as a concept in Dragonball, the math of Goku's and Frieza's power levels do work out to that sort of multiplier.</quote> Those multipliers came from some official book apparently >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJGrimReaper 02/18/18 12:01:38 PM #7:	Toriyama stopped giving a shit about power levels a long time ago --- Big Apple, 3 A.M. http://i.imgur.com/CqukfNH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Z0vo3WV.jpg <cite>SSJGrimReaper posted [p:896311374] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>Toriyama stopped giving a shit about power levels a long time ago</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ilovuuu 02/18/18 12:01:59 PM #8:	in the manga supersaiyan Goku did better against Hit than SSB Vegeta. granted, Vegeta was at 10 percent power against Hit. So if we take the manga seriously Super Saiyan form is at least more than 10 percent of SSB. i mean. that's assuming Vegeta is as strong as Goku. If not the I guess it's safe to say regular super saiyan is around 10 percent of blue. <cite>ilovuuu posted [p:896311389] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>in the manga supersaiyan Goku did better against Hit than SSB Vegeta. granted, Vegeta was at 10 percent power against Hit. So if we take the manga seriously Super Saiyan form is at least more than 10 percent of SSB. i mean. that's assuming Vegeta is as strong as Goku. If not the I guess it's safe to say regular super saiyan is around 10 percent of blue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 02/18/18 12:02:04 PM #9:	SSJGrimReaper posted... Toriyama stopped giving a shit about power levels a long time ago Tell that to the fan base lol --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:896311395] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJGrimReaper posted...</cite> <quote>Toriyama stopped giving a shit about power levels a long time ago</quote> Tell that to the fan base lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link HT 02/18/18 12:03:20 PM #10:	NeonOctopus posted... SSJGrimReaper posted... Toriyama stopped giving a shit about power levels a long time ago Tell that to the fan base lol there's a difference between powerlevel numbers and who is stronger than who Nobody cares about the numbers but people care about consistency in strength, which toryiama clearly doesn't. --- http://i.imgur.com/Tx1FX.jpg <cite>Link HT posted [p:896311462] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJGrimReaper posted...</cite> <quote>Toriyama stopped giving a shit about power levels a long time ago</quote> Tell that to the fan base lol</quote> there's a difference between powerlevel numbers and who is stronger than who Nobody cares about the numbers but people care about consistency in strength, which toryiama clearly doesn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 02/18/18 12:09:34 PM #11:	NeonOctopus posted... Kaname_Madoka posted... NeonOctopus posted... Super Saiyan 1 = x50 base level No yes http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/seg-story-volume-truth-about-dragon-ball/ Because when he became a Super Saiyan, we wouldnt have to do the black fill. It also had the effect of making it easy to tell from his appearance that Goku had gotten stronger, so it killed two birds with one stone. Only, at the time, it was considered that his strength would increase 50-fold when he became a Super Saiyan, but that was a bit of an exaggeration. My feeling as the creator is that, while drawing it, I felt that it was about a 10-fold change from what it was up to that point. --- Drawn for me: Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy + Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m dont lose your wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:896311758] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>Super Saiyan 1 = x50 base level</quote> No</quote> yes</quote> http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/seg-story-volume-truth-about-dragon-ball/ <quote>Because when he became a Super Saiyan, we wouldnt have to do the black fill. It also had the effect of making it easy to tell from his appearance that Goku had gotten stronger, so it killed two birds with one stone. Only, at the time, it was considered that his strength would increase 50-fold when he became a Super Saiyan, but that was a bit of an exaggeration. My feeling as the creator is that, while drawing it, I felt that it was about a 10-fold change from what it was up to that point.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3khc 02/18/18 12:10:51 PM #12:	I hated the multiplier theory. I was always more a fan of SSJ breaking through physical limits. For example, Goku hit his absolute limit during DB. King Kai provided a technique (kaioken) that allowed Goku to temporarily break that limit. It was barely enough for Vegeta who naturally had a higher physical limit than Kakarot. When fighting Frieza, Goku discovered an entierly new form aka SSJ that unlocked a whole new plateau of power. This allowed Goku to explore the boundries of this new power, eventually reaching the limit of SSJ1 while fighting Cell. Then through sheer willpower and training, Goku broke the limits twice more with SSJ2, SSJ3, etc. --- ---- ----- <cite>3khc posted [p:896311806] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>I hated the multiplier theory. I was always more a fan of SSJ breaking through physical limits. For example, Goku hit his absolute limit during DB. King Kai provided a technique (kaioken) that allowed Goku to temporarily break that limit. It was barely enough for Vegeta who naturally had a higher physical limit than Kakarot. When fighting Frieza, Goku discovered an entierly new form aka SSJ that unlocked a whole new plateau of power. This allowed Goku to explore the boundries of this new power, eventually reaching the limit of SSJ1 while fighting Cell. Then through sheer willpower and training, Goku broke the limits twice more with SSJ2, SSJ3, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaffIeElite 02/18/18 12:12:27 PM #13:	What's the official power level multiplier for "Trainin' in secret"? --- I have a signature. Apparently this is important, but I still don't have my secret cool kid decoder ring yet. <cite>WaffIeElite posted [p:896311880] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>What's the official power level multiplier for "Trainin' in secret"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link HT 02/18/18 12:24:34 PM #14:	WaffIeElite posted... What's the official power level multiplier for "Trainin' in secret"? If we want the series to make some sense, it's literally in the millions --- http://i.imgur.com/Tx1FX.jpg <cite>Link HT posted [p:896312432] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>WaffIeElite posted...</cite> <quote>What's the official power level multiplier for "Trainin' in secret"?</quote> If we want the series to make some sense, it's literally in the millions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 02/18/18 12:59:19 PM #15:	get rekt TC --- Drawn for me: Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy + Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m dont lose your wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:896314025] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>get rekt TC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 02/18/18 1:02:42 PM #16:	Kaname_Madoka posted... get rekt TC how am I rekt'd? >_> --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:896314181] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote>get rekt TC</quote> how am I rekt'd? >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 02/18/18 1:04:27 PM #17:	NeonOctopus posted... Kaname_Madoka posted... get rekt TC how am I rekt'd? >_> I'm joking but I did prove you wrong and you didn't reply --- Drawn for me: Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy + Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m dont lose your wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:896314266] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote>get rekt TC</quote> how am I rekt'd? >_></quote> I'm joking but I did prove you wrong and you didn't reply</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 02/18/18 1:07:26 PM #18:	I didn't see that until now >_> Lol @ Toryiama --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:896314402] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>I didn't see that until now >_> Lol @ Toryiama</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 02/18/18 1:08:36 PM #19:	yeah It's stupid as fuck though lol. That would make it literally only as strong as a great ape. --- Drawn for me: Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy + Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m dont lose your wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:896314451] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>yeah It's stupid as fuck though lol. That would make it literally only as strong as a great ape.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link HT 02/18/18 2:16:28 PM #20:	Kaname_Madoka posted... yeah It's stupid as fuck though lol. That would make it literally only as strong as a great ape. great ape is like x10 IIRC --- http://i.imgur.com/Tx1FX.jpg <cite>Link HT posted [p:896318015] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kaname_Madoka posted...</cite> <quote>yeah It's stupid as fuck though lol. That would make it literally only as strong as a great ape.</quote> great ape is like x10 IIRC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 02/18/18 2:17:24 PM #21:	yeah and toriyama retconned ssj to be "about a 10-fold change" --- Drawn for me: Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy + Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m dont lose your wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:896318063] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>yeah and toriyama retconned ssj to be "about a 10-fold change"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 02/18/18 2:18:09 PM #22:	power levels don't exist like the fans want them to do stop trying to think about them --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg <cite>metralo posted [p:896318110] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>power levels don't exist like the fans want them to do stop trying to think about them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 02/18/18 2:20:02 PM #23:	Taking Toriyama's word on anything dragon ball lore related is lol worthy at best. A randomer in the street probably knows more than he does tbh. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:896318216] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>Taking Toriyama's word on anything dragon ball lore related is lol worthy at best. A randomer in the street probably knows more than he does tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 02/18/18 2:21:06 PM #24:	Funkydog posted... Taking Toriyama's word on anything dragon ball lore related is lol worthy at best. A randomer in the street probably knows more than he does tbh. I mean.... you aren't wrong --- Drawn for me: Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy + Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m dont lose your wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:896318270] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Taking Toriyama's word on anything dragon ball lore related is lol worthy at best. A randomer in the street probably knows more than he does tbh.</quote> I mean.... you aren't wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link HT 02/18/18 2:41:00 PM #25:	metralo posted... power levels don't exist like the fans want them to do stop trying to think about them throughout all of dragonball z you can pretty much tell at any given time who is stronger than who. Sure there aren't "numbers" but you can still infer a lot. As for super, hahahaha --- http://i.imgur.com/Tx1FX.jpg <cite>Link HT posted [p:896319342] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote>power levels don't exist like the fans want them to do stop trying to think about them</quote> throughout all of dragonball z you can pretty much tell at any given time who is stronger than who. Sure there aren't "numbers" but you can still infer a lot. As for super, hahahaha</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 02/18/18 2:42:45 PM #26:	Link HT posted... metralo posted... power levels don't exist like the fans want them to do stop trying to think about them throughout all of dragonball z you can pretty much tell at any given time who is stronger than who. Sure there aren't "numbers" but you can still infer a lot. As for super, hahahaha Super is no different than the bullshit in Z --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:896319442] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Link HT posted...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote>power levels don't exist like the fans want them to do stop trying to think about them</quote> throughout all of dragonball z you can pretty much tell at any given time who is stronger than who. Sure there aren't "numbers" but you can still infer a lot. As for super, hahahaha</quote> Super is no different than the bullshit in Z</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 02/18/18 2:44:38 PM #27:	Super Saiyan 1 = 100x base level Super Saiyan 2 = 50x SSJ1 level Super Saiyan 3 = 25x SSJ2 level Super Saiyan Blue = 12.5x SSJ3 level? --- Loading... <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:896319544] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>Super Saiyan 1 = 100x base level Super Saiyan 2 = 50x SSJ1 level Super Saiyan 3 = 25x SSJ2 level Super Saiyan Blue = 12.5x SSJ3 level?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link HT 02/18/18 2:45:43 PM #28:	Blue_Inigo posted... Link HT posted... metralo posted... power levels don't exist like the fans want them to do stop trying to think about them throughout all of dragonball z you can pretty much tell at any given time who is stronger than who. Sure there aren't "numbers" but you can still infer a lot. As for super, hahahaha Super is no different than the bullshit in Z you MUST be joking --- http://i.imgur.com/Tx1FX.jpg <cite>Link HT posted [p:896319605] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Link HT posted...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote>power levels don't exist like the fans want them to do stop trying to think about them</quote> throughout all of dragonball z you can pretty much tell at any given time who is stronger than who. Sure there aren't "numbers" but you can still infer a lot. As for super, hahahaha</quote> Super is no different than the bullshit in Z</quote> you MUST be joking</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 02/18/18 2:46:20 PM #29:	The multipliers have never meant anything anyway. --- Do the good die young, or do the young die good? http://i.imgur.com/QiEb7.jpg <cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted [p:896319634] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>The multipliers have never meant anything anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 02/18/18 2:48:33 PM #30:	Over 9000 --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:896319750] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote>Over 9000</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 02/18/18 2:49:23 PM #31:	Funkydog posted... Taking Toriyama's word on anything dragon ball lore related is lol worthy at best. A randomer in the street probably knows more than he does tbh. Who the heck is Tao Pai Pai? - Akira Toriyama --- Do the good die young, or do the young die good? http://i.imgur.com/QiEb7.jpg <cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted [p:896319806] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Taking Toriyama's word on anything dragon ball lore related is lol worthy at best. A randomer in the street probably knows more than he does tbh.</quote> Who the heck is Tao Pai Pai? - Akira Toriyama</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 02/18/18 5:36:33 PM #32:	Link HT posted... metralo posted... power levels don't exist like the fans want them to do stop trying to think about them throughout all of dragonball z you can pretty much tell at any given time who is stronger than who. Sure there aren't "numbers" but you can still infer a lot. As for super, hahahaha idk, you can pretty confidently say who is stronger than who in super (aside from beerus). the power scaling is absolutely atrocious, yes. Z's power scaling was pretty awful too. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg <cite>metralo posted [p:896328477] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Link HT posted...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote>power levels don't exist like the fans want them to do stop trying to think about them</quote> throughout all of dragonball z you can pretty much tell at any given time who is stronger than who. Sure there aren't "numbers" but you can still infer a lot. As for super, hahahaha</quote> idk, you can pretty confidently say who is stronger than who in super (aside from beerus). the power scaling is absolutely atrocious, yes. Z's power scaling was pretty awful too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 02/18/18 5:50:04 PM #33:	Game_Fan09 posted... Isn't there a SS4 before the SS god thing? Super Saiyan 4 is GT-only, and thus, noncanon. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:896329207] in Is there a... [t:76332369]...</cite> <quote><cite>Game_Fan09 posted...</cite> <quote>Isn't there a SS4 before the SS god thing?</quote> Super Saiyan 4 is GT-only, and thus, noncanon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Is there an official power level multipler for Super Saiyan God/Blue, etc.