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RchHomieQuanChi
02/22/18 4:57:54 AM
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being an action figure.....complete with rants about feminism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_-7uoYF3GY


Why has the world become this
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Re-iNcarnated
02/22/18 5:04:06 AM
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Nerds are regressing to this guy again, gj 2018.
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iClockwork
02/22/18 5:05:27 AM
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Should have been 20 mins tbh. Terrible character.
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8-bit_Biceps
02/22/18 5:11:05 AM
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Ok...I understand why people might not like the character, but why is everything related to feminism? "Frozen is feminism! Poop is feminism!" Ffs, can we just let there be women doing stuff in movies. Like a woman drinking out of a paper cup...is that gonna be feminism too. The only thing that I would let slide and say seems to be overly SJW is Star Trek Discovery having a black female lead named Michael. That's just like too many minority layers for it to not be obvious. So there is a trend in powerful female characters? Ok there's a trend. Collectively, movies might be going toward feminism, but the stuff going on within the movies isn't excessive feminism. It's not like Wonder Woman is twice as strong as Superman in Justice League. It's fine. Relax.
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RchHomieQuanChi
02/22/18 5:12:30 AM
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8-bit_Biceps posted...
Ok...I understand why people might not like the character, but why is everything related to feminism? "Frozen is feminism! Poop is feminism!" Ffs, can we just let there be women doing stuff in movies. Like a woman drinking out of a paper cup...is that gonna be feminism too. The only thing that I would let slide and say seems to be overly SJW is Star Trek Discovery having a black female lead named Michael. That's just like too many minority layers for it to not be obvious. So there is a trend in powerful female characters? Ok there's a trend. Collectively, movies might be going toward feminism, but the stuff going on within the movies isn't excessive feminism. It's not like Wonder Woman is twice as strong as Superman in Justice League. It's fine. Relax.


"B-but she has purple hair!"
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kuwab0
02/22/18 5:12:46 AM
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iClockwork
02/22/18 5:21:43 AM
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The portraying of Ray as a Mary Sue is absolutely catering towards feminism.
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NibeIungsnarf
02/22/18 5:23:39 AM
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Why would anyone want an action figure of such a trash character who doesnt even look cool?
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Vyrulisse
02/22/18 5:25:24 AM
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butthole666
02/22/18 6:54:34 AM
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White men are the fucking worst lmao jesus christ
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NinjaBreakfast
02/22/18 6:59:02 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Admiral Tumblr is a trash character

Lmao I love how permanently scarred all you nerds are by the idea of somebody having *shock* PURPLE HAIR

Like you can literally feel the jowls shaking across the Internet when these lanes inexplicably link the character to tumblr.
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action52
02/22/18 7:02:55 AM
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Surprised he kept it down to ten minutes, actually.
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DrizztLink
02/22/18 7:05:56 AM
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kuwab0 posted...
It should have come with Mace Windus arm

It is I, Admiral Holdo.

You probably don't recognize me because of the treasonous arm.
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ZMythos
02/22/18 7:21:52 AM
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There are literal aliens on the ship but people take issue with the purple hair chick
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AlisLandale
02/22/18 8:12:29 AM
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ZMythos posted...
There are literal aliens on the ship but people take issue with the purple hair chick


To be fair, she is the only person in the entire Star Wars universe with apparently dyed hair.

If she had other alien features, or if the hair dye was made to look more "natural", it probably wouldnt be so bad. But its a jarring design to have stuff like Chewbacca, Bossk, Kit Fisto, those tiny nuns, etc. And a woman with Party City hair. It also doesnt help that she was made to be purposefully insufferable to justify Poe's bullcrap.

The feminism stuff is overblown but she is a terrible character with a lazy ass design.
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CyricZ
02/22/18 8:16:06 AM
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AlisLandale posted...
To be fair, she is the only person in the entire Star Wars universe with apparently dyed hair.

Sabine Wren, who "existed" before Holdo.
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AlisLandale
02/22/18 8:18:33 AM
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CyricZ posted...
AlisLandale posted...
To be fair, she is the only person in the entire Star Wars universe with apparently dyed hair.

Sabine Wren, who "existed" before Holdo.


I totally forgot Rebels was a thing. >_>

Unnatural hair colors look a lot better in animation anyways. All those characters would look stupid in live action.
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CyricZ
02/22/18 8:21:19 AM
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AlisLandale posted...
All those characters would look stupid in live action.

Ehh, matter of opinion.

http://www.insidethemagic.net/2016/01/star-wars-rebels-meet-and-greet-coming-to-walt-disney-world/
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GeneralKenobi85
02/22/18 8:55:11 AM
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She was a dumb character, but I don't know why anyone cares about her having an action figure.
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Vyrulisse
02/22/18 9:54:14 AM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Admiral Tumblr is a trash character

Lmao I love how permanently scarred all you nerds are by the idea of somebody having *shock* PURPLE HAIR

Like you can literally feel the jowls shaking across the Internet when these lames inexplicably link the character to tumblr.

LUL
u mad?
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DoGCyN
02/22/18 9:55:44 AM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Admiral Tumblr is a trash character

Lmao I love how permanently scarred all you nerds are by the idea of somebody having *shock* PURPLE HAIR


It doesn't matter what color her hair was. She WAS a trash character.
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AlecSkorpio
02/22/18 9:59:06 AM
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Why do I keep seeing videos from this guy pop up on CE?

He sounds like the most loser of loser toy collectors.
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CyricZ
02/22/18 10:25:11 AM
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What did you guys not like about Holdo?

Honestly I don't think she's all that much to speak of myself, and that's coming off reading her introduction in a book.

I'm just curious to hear from those who thought she was "trash".
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NinjaBreakfast
02/22/18 10:30:11 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
*jowls shake furiously*

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Banjo2553
02/22/18 10:38:52 AM
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CyricZ posted...
What did you guys not like about Holdo?

Honestly I don't think she's all that much to speak of myself, and that's coming off reading her introduction in a book.

I'm just curious to hear from those who thought she was "trash".

I don't claim she is SJW-bait like others do (I really don't see it) but she frustratingly has a plan to get away from the First Order yet she doesn't tell anyone about it. Not even her highest-ranked officer.
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Giant_Aspirin
02/22/18 10:40:25 AM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
She was a dumb character, but I don't know why anyone cares about her having an action figure.


agreed. Lucasfilm has been licensing toys for every single character in SW for decades.
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Giant_Aspirin
02/22/18 10:41:40 AM
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woah, at one point he said that Holdo is "ruining the franchise". lmao. thats when i turned it off
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Romulox28
02/22/18 10:47:40 AM
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ZMythos posted...
There are literal aliens on the ship but people take issue with the purple hair chick

i think one of the many problems with the new movies is that there is a distinctive lack of aliens, with a focus on human racial/gender diversity, which i dont think is a problem, but it does stand out as a pretty obvious agenda. i dont think i can name a single prominent alien in the new movies tbh.
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GeneralKenobi85
02/22/18 10:52:43 AM
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Banjo2553 posted...
CyricZ posted...
What did you guys not like about Holdo?

Honestly I don't think she's all that much to speak of myself, and that's coming off reading her introduction in a book.

I'm just curious to hear from those who thought she was "trash".

I don't claim she is SJW-bait like others do (I really don't see it) but she frustratingly has a plan to get away from the First Order yet she doesn't tell anyone about it. Not even her highest-ranked officer.

Yeah this is the problem I have with her. It just created a meaningless conflict. The Resistance is on its last legs, so no reason to keep secrets.
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Ivynn
02/22/18 10:58:18 AM
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She's a terrible character. But I still find it funny that people get triggered over her purple hair of all features. Tumblr didn't invent hair dye and not every character with unnatural hair colors is a reference to tumblrinas.
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Ivynn
02/22/18 10:58:53 AM
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Romulox28 posted...
ZMythos posted...
There are literal aliens on the ship but people take issue with the purple hair chick

i think one of the many problems with the new movies is that there is a distinctive lack of aliens, with a focus on human racial/gender diversity, which i dont think is a problem, but it does stand out as a pretty obvious agenda. i dont think i can name a single prominent alien in the new movies tbh.


I agree with this too.
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darkjedilink
02/22/18 11:01:24 AM
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8-bit_Biceps posted...
Ok...I understand why people might not like the character, but why is everything related to feminism? "Frozen is feminism! Poop is feminism!" Ffs, can we just let there be women doing stuff in movies. Like a woman drinking out of a paper cup...is that gonna be feminism too. The only thing that I would let slide and say seems to be overly SJW is Star Trek Discovery having a black female lead named Michael. That's just like too many minority layers for it to not be obvious. So there is a trend in powerful female characters? Ok there's a trend. Collectively, movies might be going toward feminism, but the stuff going on within the movies isn't excessive feminism. It's not like Wonder Woman is twice as strong as Superman in Justice League. It's fine. Relax.

These characters were given a political message by the film creators. This means they aren't just 'doing stuff.' They were created to have a political message.
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darkjedilink
02/22/18 11:02:43 AM
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ZMythos posted...
There are literal aliens on the ship but people take issue with the purple hair chick

Other than Akhbar, name two.
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GeneralKenobi85
02/22/18 11:04:34 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
ZMythos posted...
There are literal aliens on the ship but people take issue with the purple hair chick

Other than Akhbar, name two.

All I can think of is Nien Nunb. I've always liked Nien Nunb.
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Swagnificent119
02/22/18 11:08:59 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
GeneralKenobi85 posted...
She was a dumb character, but I don't know why anyone cares about her having an action figure.


agreed. Lucasfilm has been licensing toys for every single character in SW for decades.


Yeah, they even made a collectors set of the characters George Lucas family played ffs

9cK6e6g

Like, I don't know what changed to make star wars toy collectors turn into a bunch of fucking whiners, but god damn they need to shut the fuck up I keep seeing these stupid videos popping up on youtube and I have no idea why they are getting a push or if it's just cause I see them on CE or what.
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Terra-enforcer
02/22/18 11:10:25 AM
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ZMythos posted...
There are literal aliens on the ship but people take issue with the purple hair chick

Thats CE for you
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darkjedilink
02/22/18 11:12:07 AM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
ZMythos posted...
There are literal aliens on the ship but people take issue with the purple hair chick

Other than Akhbar, name two.

All I can think of is Nien Nunb. I've always liked Nien Nunb.

I don't remember seeing him in TLJ.
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Anteaterking
02/22/18 11:13:03 AM
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Banjo2553 posted...
Not even her highest-ranked officer.


Poe wasn't her highest-ranked officer.
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GeneralKenobi85
02/22/18 11:13:51 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
GeneralKenobi85 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
ZMythos posted...
There are literal aliens on the ship but people take issue with the purple hair chick

Other than Akhbar, name two.

All I can think of is Nien Nunb. I've always liked Nien Nunb.

I don't remember seeing him in TLJ.

I didn't either, but wookieepedia says he was there and that he escaped on the Falcon with everyone else.
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Banjo2553
02/22/18 11:16:27 AM
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Anteaterking posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
Not even her highest-ranked officer.


Poe wasn't her highest-ranked officer.

He seemed to be pretty high rank to be the combat leader and to think he even had a chance to be Leia's successor in command.
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CyricZ
02/22/18 11:22:52 AM
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Nunb was there. Not especially featured, but he was there.

Ello Asty was in the film too.

Regardless, I'm with y'all on nonhuman representation. One thing the prequels did well, even if it required a lot of CGI.
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CyricZ
02/22/18 11:24:09 AM
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Banjo2553 posted...
He seemed to be pretty high rank to be the combat leader and to think he even had a chance to be Leia's successor in command.


Recently demoted, don't forget.
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NinjaBreakfast
02/22/18 11:24:32 AM
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Banjo2553 posted...
He seemed to be pretty high rank to be the combat leader and to think he even had a chance to be Leia's successor in command.

Leia demoted him.

Also Im pretty certain you're not meant to see his expectation of being made her successor as a realistic or positive trait of his.
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masticatingman
02/22/18 11:24:50 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Should have been 20 mins tbh. Terrible character.

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Anteaterking
02/22/18 11:26:56 AM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
He seemed to be pretty high rank to be the combat leader and to think he even had a chance to be Leia's successor in command.

Leia demoted him.

Also Im pretty certain you're not meant to see his expectation of being made her successor as a realistic or positive trait of his.


This. I think there's a bit of grooming going on, but it's not with expectation for him to replace her within a year or anything like that.
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Banjo2553
02/22/18 11:30:51 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
He seemed to be pretty high rank to be the combat leader and to think he even had a chance to be Leia's successor in command.


Recently demoted, don't forget.

Yeah, I suppose.

I still think it was silly to not tell him just because "you got demoted why should I tell you anything". To the guy who got demoted for not strictly following orders and going with his gut, that's surely not gonna cause a mutiny.
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The Great Muta 22
02/22/18 11:32:12 AM
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Ivynn posted...
She's a terrible character. But I still find it funny that people get triggered over her purple hair of all features. Tumblr didn't invent hair dye and not every character with unnatural hair colors is a reference to tumblrinas.


This. Holdo was an awfully written character, but out of all the issues with her the purple hair is like, way down there on the list. If her character was written better it wouldn't matter what color hair she had. Likewise if she was a brunette and still the same, people would rightfully complain about her.

But a 10 minute video complaining about a toy? Come on man
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CyricZ
02/22/18 11:38:40 AM
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Banjo2553 posted...
that's surely not gonna cause a mutiny


Mm, hindsight really. Most military commanders don't operate expecting a mutiny. Also he was disrespectful as hell to a superior officer.
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RchHomieQuanChi
02/22/18 3:07:49 PM
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In defense of Holdo's actions (not that I like the character, she's very much a non-character for me):

Perhaps the reason she didn't tell Poe was out of fear that information would leak out to the First Order. Up until that point she had no real reason to trust him (especially given his demotion) and even if not him, somebody else could have leaked the information. I mean, hell, Poe is best friends with a literal former Stormtrooper and while we know he's a good guy, Holdo doesn't know him.

I will say that I think all of her scenes could have been given to Ackbar and absolutely nothing would have changed, but perhaps they were trying to invoke a bit of Mon Mothma with her character.
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