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Antifar
02/22/18 11:09:53 AM
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In Texas, Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer has earned ire for backing his own donor, a healthcare executive, over a woman with more local support

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/02/21/senate-minority-leader-chuck-schumer-endorses-upstart-candidate-housto/
Schumer endorsed Tahir Javed, an outspoken healthcare executive, in the Democratic race for Texas' 29th District, Javed's campaign announced Wednesday. In a statement, Schumer said Washington needs leaders like Javed who "think outside the box."

"His record as a job creator, healthcare executive, and teacher give him the perfect mix of skills and experience to serve the district and Texas," Schumer said. "Hes been very helpful in electing Democrats across the country, and I am now proud to support him as part of a new generation of leaders we need in Washington."

Javed, a longtime Democratic fundraiser, has said he will "spend whatever it takes" to win against six other candidates in the Democratic primary. In the fourth quarter of last year, he reported loaning his campaign $400,000 on top of $201,000 raised from others.

Schumer's public support for Javed is at odds with the local and federal Democratic establishment, who have largely endorsed state Sen. Sylvia Garcia's bid for the seat. Garcia's supporters include several members of the Texas delegation, the powerhouse fundraising organization EMILY's List and Green himself, who is retiring after 25 years in office.


In Virginia, party insiders are backing a candidate who has twice voted for the Republican incumbent
http://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/government-politics/democrat-vying-to-challenge-gop-rep-scott-taylor-voted-for/article_744bf63e-7a57-5d88-b7e8-c13ef78ac041.html

Elaine Luria is one of the Democrats vying for the chance to challenge U.S. Rep. Scott Taylor, R-2nd.

She has the blessing of the party elite in Washington. One thing not on her rsum: She voted for Taylor in a Republican primary in 2016 and again in the November general election, when Taylor defeated Democrat Shaun Brown to win the seat.

Elaine doesnt make decisions just based on political party, her campaign manager said by email. Faced with the options on the ballot, she took a chance on fellow veteran Scott Taylor who promised to bring change and be something different, but he broke those promises.

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DezDroppedFreak
02/22/18 11:10:58 AM
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Looking at my boy Joe Kennedy III for the future tbh
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Balrog0
02/22/18 11:15:16 AM
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good lord, the state senator who has local support in Texas sounds awful
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SideshowBob311
02/22/18 11:24:35 AM
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Hopefully Joe Biden runs....I'd happily vote for him over Trump and I'm a fairly strong conservative. Anybody but goddamn Bernie Sanders.
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Genocet_10-325
02/22/18 11:26:01 AM
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SideshowBob311 posted...
Hopefully Joe Biden runs....I'd happily vote for him over Trump and I'm a fairly strong conservative. Anybody but goddamn Bernie Sanders.

I'm a far leftist and I love Bernie but I want Biden to run too because I think he has a much better chance against Trump in the general.
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Antifar
02/22/18 12:00:26 PM
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Biden sucks, though.
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Electrokinesis
02/22/18 12:01:52 PM
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SideshowBob311 posted...
Hopefully Joe Biden runs....

No, hopefully he doesn't.
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NinjaBreakfast
02/22/18 12:02:23 PM
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Only the onion Joe Biden is good
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Phantom_Nook
02/22/18 12:05:24 PM
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Hopefully no old men run and we get someone younger.
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CruelBuffalo
02/22/18 12:06:42 PM
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So hes evil because hes a healthcare executive? I dont understand the issue here. Are all Democrats supposed to support the same candidate?
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CruelBuffalo
02/22/18 12:07:19 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
SideshowBob311 posted...
Hopefully Joe Biden runs....I'd happily vote for him over Trump and I'm a fairly strong conservative. Anybody but goddamn Bernie Sanders.

I'm a far leftist and I love Bernie but I want Biden to run too because I think he has a much better chance against Trump in the general.


Why not wait for the primary...I feel Democrats need a newer (younger) face
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creativerealms
02/22/18 12:07:37 PM
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No Hilary Clinton.
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PiOverlord
02/22/18 12:08:32 PM
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I'm sure I have a different reason why I think Biden sucks than Antifar, but he does suck.

Why do you all get deluded into believing a nice guy is also someone who will be good?!?
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josifrees
02/22/18 12:08:44 PM
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Holy shit why are all the politicians in this country so fucking shitty. I cant think of any that I even want anywhere near the Presidency
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Nomadic View
02/22/18 12:09:20 PM
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I hope its Nancy Pelosi or Elizabeth Warren.
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DezDroppedFreak
02/22/18 12:17:05 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
SideshowBob311 posted...
Hopefully Joe Biden runs....I'd happily vote for him over Trump and I'm a fairly strong conservative. Anybody but goddamn Bernie Sanders.

I'm a far leftist and I love Bernie but I want Biden to run too because I think he has a much better chance against Trump in the general.


Why not wait for the primary...I feel Democrats need a newer (younger) face


*cough* Joe Kennedy III *cough*
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CruelBuffalo
02/22/18 12:17:52 PM
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josifrees posted...
Holy shit why are all the politicians in this country so fucking shitty. I cant think of any that I even want anywhere near the Presidency


What do you know about either of those 2 candidates
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creativerealms
02/22/18 12:18:23 PM
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Warren would be a bad choice, especially against Trump. She won't drop the Pocahontas thing any more then Trump will. Oh man will it be painful to hear about it all the time.
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ScazarMeltex
02/22/18 12:19:13 PM
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josifrees posted...
Holy shit why are all the politicians in this country so fucking shitty. I cant think of any that I even want anywhere near the Presidency


"Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. Fuck Hope."

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ledbowman
02/22/18 12:19:54 PM
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Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in the country.
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Sephiroth1288
02/22/18 12:21:35 PM
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ledbowman posted...
Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in the country.

Weird how that didn't translate into primary votes (even excluding superdelegates)
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Antifar
02/22/18 12:22:25 PM
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Guys this was about 2018 candidates
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creativerealms
02/22/18 12:23:19 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
ledbowman posted...
Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in the country.

Weird how that didn't translate into primary votes (even excluding superdelegates)

Uh your side is the one insisting Hilary cheated out Sanders remember?
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Sephiroth1288
02/22/18 12:27:00 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
ledbowman posted...
Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in the country.

Weird how that didn't translate into primary votes (even excluding superdelegates)

Uh your side is the one insisting Hilary cheated out Sanders remember?

"Insisting"? As if there's any doubt?

The GOP tried to screw Trump too. They literally gave Ted Cruz Colorado before any votes were cast. Trump won anyway because he was popular. Bernie Sanders however got smoked by Hillary. Just saying, it's weird that the "most popular politician" would get reamed that badly in the primaries.
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Balrog0
02/22/18 12:27:06 PM
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Antifar posted...
Guys this was about 2018 candidates


I mean the Texan woman who has garnered so much support sounds way worse than this healthcare executive to me. I might be biased because I feel like I know people like her, but...

She originally ran for Congress 26 years ago and placed third. Since then she has jumped around different elected offices without any particular accomplishment besides generic crap ("I ensured the courts were fair and efficient, I protected tax dollars")

she only ran for what she has now because she lost to a republican in her prior position

again I might be biased because I know these kind of people here in Arkansas but jeez that is the perfect picture of a democrat who thinks they deserve the seat just because they are there
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creativerealms
02/22/18 12:29:19 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
creativerealms posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
ledbowman posted...
Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in the country.

Weird how that didn't translate into primary votes (even excluding superdelegates)

Uh your side is the one insisting Hilary cheated out Sanders remember?

"Insisting"? As if there's any doubt?

The GOP tried to screw Trump too. They literally gave Ted Cruz Colorado before any votes were cast. Trump won anyway because he was popular. Bernie Sanders however got smoked by Hillary. Just saying, it's weird that the "most popular politician" would get reamed that badly in the primaries.

So which is it. You can't accept his loss and know he was cheated at the same time. That just doesn't make sense.

Of course the GOP didn't want Trump. Now they are stuck with him and it's destroying them from the inside. Mrahahahahahahahaha..
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ledbowman
02/22/18 12:32:13 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
ledbowman posted...
Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in the country.

Weird how that didn't translate into primary votes (even excluding superdelegates)

I'm talking about right now not two years ago.
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Sephiroth1288
02/22/18 12:33:54 PM
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creativerealms posted...
So which is it. You can't accept his loss and know he was cheated at the same time. That just doesn't make sense.

A popular candidate would have beaten Hillary in regular delegates. Bernie didn't have a chance even if they didn't have superdelegates.
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Antifar
02/22/18 12:43:48 PM
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In NY, a candidate is obscuring his past work spying on left-wing groups and unions
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/22/patrick-ryan-congress-berico-dataminr/
PATRICK RYAN, A congressional candidate from New York, is leaning on his experience as a small business entrepreneur to establish his readiness for office, but he has curiously failed to mention the business he used to work in: domestic surveillance.

Seven years ago, Ryan, then working at a firm called Berico Technologies, compiled a plan to create a real-time surveillance operation of left-wing groups and labor unions, hoping business lobbyists would pay top dollar to monitor and disrupt the actions of activist groups across the country. At one point, the proposal included the idea to spy on the families of high-profile Democratic activists and plant fake documents with labor unions in a bid to discredit them.

The pitch, a joint venture with a now-defunct company called HBGary Federal and the Peter Thiel-backed company Palantir Technologies, however, crumbled in 2011 after it was exposed in a series of news reports.

Years later, Ryan pivoted to a startup called Dataminr, a data analytics company that provided social media monitoring solutions for law enforcement clients. Dataminr, which received financial support from the CIAs venture capital arm, produced real-time updates about activists for law enforcement. For example, according to documents obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union of California and reported by The Intercept for the first time, Dataminr helped track social media posts relating to Black Lives Matter.
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ledbowman
02/22/18 12:44:30 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
creativerealms posted...
So which is it. You can't accept his loss and know he was cheated at the same time. That just doesn't make sense.

A popular candidate would have beaten Hillary in regular delegates. Bernie didn't have a chance even if they didn't have superdelegates.

Sanders wasn't as popular then as he is now. He was closing a 60 point gap on Hillary during the time you are talking about.
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Antifar
02/22/18 12:46:52 PM
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To the popularity discussion:
1. Sanders' popularity has grown since early 2016
2. These polls are measuring the whole of the electorate, whereas Democratic primaries are conducted mostly among Democrats, who love Hillary Clinton even if no one else does.
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ledbowman
02/22/18 12:48:11 PM
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Antifar posted...
Hillary Clinton

Who is irrelevant.
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CruelBuffalo
02/22/18 12:51:26 PM
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Antifar posted...
To the popularity discussion:
1. Sanders' popularity has grown since early 2016
2. These polls are measuring the whole of the electorate, whereas Democratic primaries are conducted mostly among Democrats, who love Hillary Clinton even if no one else does.


Sanders has also not been hit hard as the other candidates. He was an old man who wasnt going to go far. If he won the nomination the hits would have been much harder. Hillary has large suppprt from Democrats and Republicans when she was Sec State and was even getting compliments when she was in the role. Only when she started running again she got attacked. Imagine that.

Since you keep trying to move the topic back on track, whats exactly wrong with the other candidate in Texas.
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Antifar
02/22/18 12:58:37 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Since you keep trying to move the topic back on track, whats exactly wrong with the other candidate in Texas.

He's a healthcare executive at a time when the party base is clamoring for universal healthcare; even Schumer's endorsement refers to him using the right wing trope of "job creator." Furthermore, in a district that is 75% Hispanic, he is neither Hispanic nor from it.

Also, the optics of Schumer endorsing a guy who fundraises for Schumer is...not great.

Reaction from those on the ground has been negative:
https://twitter.com/TexasTribAbby/status/966363303126683650
https://twitter.com/latinovictoryus/status/966414449719627777
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Sephiroth1288
02/22/18 1:00:12 PM
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Antifar posted...
even Schumer's endorsement refers to him using the right wing trope of "job creator."

Fucking job creators. What did they every do for anyone?
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_Near_
02/22/18 1:01:18 PM
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Democrats can be handed elections and they still throw them away.

They lost 2016 because of a disconnect with their base. I don't have hopes for 2018.
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_Near_
02/22/18 1:01:54 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Antifar posted...
even Schumer's endorsement refers to him using the right wing trope of "job creator."

Fucking job creators. What did they every do for anyone?


That's just another way of saying "vote for this rich dude".
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Southernfatman
02/22/18 1:02:59 PM
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I'm waiting for some Democrat shill to come in and accuse everyone of "purity tests". Republican - lite is not the way to go.
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CruelBuffalo
02/22/18 1:03:09 PM
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Antifar posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Since you keep trying to move the topic back on track, whats exactly wrong with the other candidate in Texas.

He's a healthcare executive at a time when the party base is clamoring for universal healthcare; even Schumer's endorsement refers to him using the right wing trope of "job creator." Furthermore, in a district that is 75% Hispanic, he is neither Hispanic nor from it.

Also, the optics of Schumer endorsing a guy who fundraises for Schumer is...not great.

Reaction from those on the ground has been negative:
https://twitter.com/TexasTribAbby/status/966363303126683650


So race identity politics (which you have argued against) and you dont like that hes a healthcare executive because part of (not the) argues in favor of UHC. Do you know this healthcare executives view on UHC?
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The Great Muta 22
02/22/18 1:10:17 PM
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There's also the fact that Bernie is far more well known now than he was during the beginning stages of the primary season. If he was as known then as he was now there's no doubt to me he wins Iowa and does far better in South Carolina, likely making Super Tuesday a lot closer.

And if he runs in 2020 there's no doubt he wins the nomination.
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CruelBuffalo
02/22/18 1:14:19 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
There's also the fact that Bernie is far more well known now than he was during the beginning stages of the primary season. If he was as known then as he was now there's no doubt to me he wins Iowa and does far better in South Carolina, likely making Super Tuesday a lot closer.

And if he runs in 2020 there's no doubt he wins the nomination.


Hes not exactly loved in California and Kamala Harris is likely running and California has moved its primary early. If the the multiple whites from the East Coast (Cuomo/Warren/Sanders) run they gonna split their own vote here. Only one that may steal from Kamala is Booker.
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SideshowBob311
02/22/18 1:40:20 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
There's also the fact that Bernie is far more well known now than he was during the beginning stages of the primary season. If he was as known then as he was now there's no doubt to me he wins Iowa and does far better in South Carolina, likely making Super Tuesday a lot closer.

And if he runs in 2020 there's no doubt he wins the nomination.


Do you want more Trump? That's how you get more Trump. Nobody's electing an 80 year old Jewish communist president of the United States. Stop thinking social media's opinions = America's opinions. There are plenty of people on my side who will happily jump on a viable Trump alternative if you give them one. Biden definitely is, Joe Kennedy seems like he might be.
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Antifar
02/22/18 1:42:05 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
If the the multiple whites from the East Coast (Cuomo/Warren/Sanders) run they gonna split their own vote here

There's no reason for Cuomo to be in that group; nobody is choosing between him and Warren/Sanders. Also I don't think he'll make it to even an early California primary.
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Balrog0
02/22/18 1:43:00 PM
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Antifar posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
If the the multiple whites from the East Coast (Cuomo/Warren/Sanders) run they gonna split their own vote here

There's no reason for Cuomo to be in that group; nobody is choosing between him and Warren/Sanders. Also I don't think he'll make it to even an early California primary.


how about de blasio?
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Antifar
02/22/18 5:58:02 PM
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