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Swampthing1138
02/26/18 11:40:33 PM
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Or krokodile?
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Dustin1280
02/26/18 11:41:12 PM
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hell no....

ESPECIALLY krokodile...
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Johnny_Nutcase
02/26/18 11:41:45 PM
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No because i'm not an idiot.
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LinksLiege
02/26/18 11:42:04 PM
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There aren't too many drugs on my "absolutely not" list but heroin's one of them.

Krokodil isn't even worth pretending to be a serious idea.
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SomeonesAlt
02/26/18 11:42:54 PM
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Fuck no
Swampthing1138 posted...
Or krokodile?

Definitely fuck no
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ChainedRedone
02/26/18 11:44:02 PM
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LinksLiege posted...
There aren't too many drugs on my "absolutely not" list but heroin's one of them.


If you have any opioids on your list then it makes no sense to keep heroin off. It's literally an opioid just like oxycodone.

And why the fuck would anyone try krokodil? It's literally a substance that's contaminated with all kinds of nasty chemicals. You know how they say there are no stupid questions? Well congrats TC, you managed to come up with a stupid question.
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Pepys Monster
02/26/18 11:45:58 PM
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No, that's one line I don't want to cross.
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BuckVanHammer
02/26/18 11:55:21 PM
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Nah, i was on a morphine drip for a while. That was enough of that type of shit for me.
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DavidWong
02/27/18 12:23:49 AM
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the greatest I have ever felt in my life is waking up from surgery on IV morphine. I truly understand why people chase the dragon after that.

If drugs were legalized I'd 100% buy oxy or something like that. painkiller high > all
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CanuckCowboy
02/27/18 12:26:01 AM
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If legality is the reason you don't do heroin you're a total fucking moron.
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CanuckCowboy
02/27/18 12:27:24 AM
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DavidWong posted...
the greatest I have ever felt in my life is waking up from surgery on IV morphine. I truly understand why people chase the dragon after that.

If drugs were legalized I'd 100% buy oxy or something like that. painkiller high > all


Fuck me that's dumb.

"yeah I'd totes be doing this massively addictive opiate which spawned an addiction epidemic but darn there's a rule against it."
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electricbugs2
02/27/18 12:29:27 AM
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From what my ex told me about her experience, no, I would not.
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CanuckCowboy
02/27/18 12:30:13 AM
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DavidWong posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
DavidWong posted...
the greatest I have ever felt in my life is waking up from surgery on IV morphine. I truly understand why people chase the dragon after that.

If drugs were legalized I'd 100% buy oxy or something like that. painkiller high > all


Fuck me that's dumb.

"yeah I'd totes be doing this massively addictive opiate which spawned an addiction epidemic but darn there's a rule against it."


I'm just lazy to find it from a dealer. I don't care enough to seek it out but hey if i could buy it at the gas station then sure throw me a 20 pack


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Crazyman93
02/27/18 12:32:14 AM
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Absolutely not. No idea what that second one is, but Heroin got its name as the trade name Bayer used for it as a pain killer. In the UK it's still used under the medical name diamorphine. Note the word "morphine," even before your local dealer dumps toxic shit in to cut it, it's incredibly addictive and prone to misuse, exactly like morphine actually.
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DavidWong
02/27/18 12:36:08 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Absolutely not. No idea what that second one is, but Heroin got its name as the trade name Bayer used for it as a pain killer. In the UK it's still used under the medical name diamorphine. Note the word "morphine," even before your local dealer dumps toxic shit in to cut it, it's incredibly addictive and prone to misuse, exactly like morphine actually.


Krokodil is cheap Russian heroin knockoff made from red phosphorus from matchsticks, gasoline and some other poisons
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CanuckCowboy
02/27/18 12:36:41 AM
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DavidWong posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Absolutely not. No idea what that second one is, but Heroin got its name as the trade name Bayer used for it as a pain killer. In the UK it's still used under the medical name diamorphine. Note the word "morphine," even before your local dealer dumps toxic shit in to cut it, it's incredibly addictive and prone to misuse, exactly like morphine actually.


Krokodil is cheap Russian heroin knockoff made from red phosphorus from matchsticks, gasoline and some other poisons


And yet it somehow manages to be even worse than it sounds.
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ChainedRedone
02/27/18 12:37:09 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
If legality is the reason you don't do heroin you're a total fucking moron.


I mean, it's basically morphine. Opioids must not be your thang.
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DavidWong
02/27/18 12:37:26 AM
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Oh, and it gets its name (Krokodil) because where you inject it, your skin becomes green and scaley. Like a crocodile.
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Offworlder1
02/27/18 12:38:49 AM
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
No because i'm not an idiot.

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Sami1000
02/27/18 12:40:33 AM
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I have the personality that gets addicted to anything pretty easily. Combine that with my mental health issues and life issues and i would be crack head junkie who wasted all of his possession and got kicked out from home in no time. I would snort that shit so bad, so it would be better to not ever try that.
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CanuckCowboy
02/27/18 12:41:02 AM
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ChainedRedone posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
If legality is the reason you don't do heroin you're a total fucking moron.


I mean, it's basically morphine. Opioids must not be your thang.


No I just mean whether you choose to do it or not do it I feel like legality is a pretty irrelevant point in the decision.

I've tried practically everything tbh.... And some opioids are amazing imo. But I can understand why people would stay away too. I just think there are more logical reasons to do so.
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Darklit_Minuet
02/27/18 12:41:05 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
"yeah I'd totes be doing this massively addictive opiate which spawned an addiction epidemic but darn there's a rule against it."

The reason for the epidemic is that doctors cut you off and force you to get your fix from a dealer. If you could continue to get your fix at reasonable prices and defined purities, there'd be no epidemic. Just a bunch of happy high people
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masticatingman
02/27/18 12:44:33 AM
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Maybe, at least something similar. Unfortunately its one of those things that probably shouldnt be legalized for the best since a lot of numbnuts would go overboard and kill themselves etc.
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DavidWong
02/27/18 12:46:41 AM
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masticatingman posted...
Maybe, at least something similar. Unfortunately its one of those things that probably shouldnt be legalized for the best since a lot of numbnuts would go overboard and kill themselves etc.


Drugs should be decriminalized and there should be injecting rooms.

That will save more lives, and cost less money, than keeping it illegal and having people shoot up on the streets, leaving dirty needles around.
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CanuckCowboy
02/27/18 12:47:12 AM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
"yeah I'd totes be doing this massively addictive opiate which spawned an addiction epidemic but darn there's a rule against it."

The reason for the epidemic is that doctors cut you off and force you to get your fix from a dealer. If you could continue to get your fix at reasonable prices and defined purities, there'd be no epidemic. Just a bunch of happy high people


That's part of the reason.

But I wasn't arguing against oxy use so much as just the rationale behind legality being the biggest factor in deciding to use opiates or not.
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masticatingman
02/27/18 12:48:10 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
If legality is the reason you don't do heroin you're a total fucking moron.


I mean, it's basically morphine. Opioids must not be your thang.


No I just mean whether you choose to do it or not do it I feel like legality is a pretty irrelevant point in the decision.

I've tried practically everything tbh.... And some opioids are amazing imo. But I can understand why people would stay away too. I just think there are more logical reasons to do so.


How can you say that from a purity standpoint though? On that point its extremely fucking relevant to have legal oversight.
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gatorsPENSbucs
02/27/18 12:49:40 AM
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Fuck no. Wouldnt do any drugs, those things scare me.
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ChainedRedone
02/27/18 12:52:05 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
If legality is the reason you don't do heroin you're a total fucking moron.


I mean, it's basically morphine. Opioids must not be your thang.


No I just mean whether you choose to do it or not do it I feel like legality is a pretty irrelevant point in the decision.

I've tried practically everything tbh.... And some opioids are amazing imo. But I can understand why people would stay away too. I just think there are more logical reasons to do so.


The legality is absolutely relevant because illicit heroin is tainted with a lot of other shit. If heroin were legal, you'd be getting pure, medical-grade heroin.
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Crazyman93
02/27/18 12:56:56 AM
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DavidWong posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Absolutely not. No idea what that second one is, but Heroin got its name as the trade name Bayer used for it as a pain killer. In the UK it's still used under the medical name diamorphine. Note the word "morphine," even before your local dealer dumps toxic shit in to cut it, it's incredibly addictive and prone to misuse, exactly like morphine actually.


Krokodil is cheap Russian heroin knockoff made from red phosphorus from matchsticks, gasoline and some other poisons

What the fuck is it with Russia and being too poor to do regular drugs? Hell, they're the only country that doesn't denature rubbing alcohol because people would drink it anyway.
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bknight
02/27/18 1:05:22 AM
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sure, YOLO, I miss 2013
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Darklit_Minuet
02/27/18 1:05:32 AM
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GregShmedley posted...
Reason being is anecdotally speaking, almost everyone I know on heroin either tried and bought it or would buy pills and then moved on to the junk.

Even just looking at heroin, high functioning addicts who manage to live a full life and work real jobs exist. The difference between them and regular addicts is that they have enough money to support their addiction. It's only a problem if you can't afford it and have to resort to robbery, or if your dealer gets busted and you switch to a new one who has a more pure product which makes you overdose
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HBOSS
02/27/18 1:08:47 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
DavidWong posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Absolutely not. No idea what that second one is, but Heroin got its name as the trade name Bayer used for it as a pain killer. In the UK it's still used under the medical name diamorphine. Note the word "morphine," even before your local dealer dumps toxic shit in to cut it, it's incredibly addictive and prone to misuse, exactly like morphine actually.


Krokodil is cheap Russian heroin knockoff made from red phosphorus from matchsticks, gasoline and some other poisons

What the fuck is it with Russia and being too poor to do regular drugs? Hell, they're the only country that doesn't denature rubbing alcohol because people would drink it anyway.

...i read up on krokodile.
oh hell no.
"...[users] develop dark, scaly skin"

regulated heroin?
...is sex on heroin good? always wondered but if its medical grade morphine, would it be the same??

so to answer TC, i would do heroin if its legal. legality is a barrier I rather not face. if it legal, that barrier is gone and is closer for me to do frankly. more accessible to me and others I guess. but yeah, I'd use heroin for the high and sex while on it.
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ChainedRedone
02/27/18 1:11:19 AM
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HBOSS posted...
...is sex on heroin good? always wondered but if its medical grade morphine, would it be the same??


Heroin is a painkiller. It numbs you. So the answer is no. It sucks, in fact.

Cocaine and meth. Those are sex drugs. Even alcohol, though not as great.
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masticatingman
02/27/18 1:14:08 AM
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HBOSS posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
DavidWong posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Absolutely not. No idea what that second one is, but Heroin got its name as the trade name Bayer used for it as a pain killer. In the UK it's still used under the medical name diamorphine. Note the word "morphine," even before your local dealer dumps toxic shit in to cut it, it's incredibly addictive and prone to misuse, exactly like morphine actually.


Krokodil is cheap Russian heroin knockoff made from red phosphorus from matchsticks, gasoline and some other poisons

What the fuck is it with Russia and being too poor to do regular drugs? Hell, they're the only country that doesn't denature rubbing alcohol because people would drink it anyway.

...i read up on krokodile.
oh hell no.
"...[users] develop dark, scaly skin"

regulated heroin?
...is sex on heroin good? always wondered but if its medical grade morphine, would it be the same??

so to answer TC, i would do heroin if its legal. legality is a barrier I rather not face. if it legal, that barrier is gone and is closer for me to do frankly. more accessible to me and others I guess. but yeah, I'd use heroin for the high and sex while on it.


They are chemically different yet very similar. Both have in the past been regulated and released as legit pharmaceuticals and were marketed separately.
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Crazyman93
02/27/18 1:14:13 AM
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ChainedRedone posted...
HBOSS posted...
...is sex on heroin good? always wondered but if its medical grade morphine, would it be the same??


Heroin is a painkiller. It numbs you. So the answer is no. It sucks, in fact.

Cocaine and meth. Those are sex drugs. Even alcohol, though not as great.

Honestly, I was on legal percocets once, and I'm used to medication being weak on me, so I took two of them the first two times, which the doctor said was okay. You could have punched me in the face and I wouldn't have had a coherent reaction. Considering Percocet is just asprin with some oxy cut in, and Heroin is stronger, I can't imagine you being wrong. Hell, I couldn't think of anything let alone sex.
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Crazyman93
02/27/18 1:15:04 AM
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masticatingman posted...
They are chemically different yet very similar. Both have in the past been regulated and released as legit pharmaceuticals.

Essentially they perform the same function, and carry the same risks, but they're chemically different. What difference this makes, if any, is beyond me though.
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LanHikari10
02/27/18 1:15:42 AM
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masticatingman
02/27/18 1:18:09 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
masticatingman posted...
They are chemically different yet very similar. Both have in the past been regulated and released as legit pharmaceuticals.

Essentially they perform the same function, and carry the same risks, but they're chemically different. What difference this makes, if any, is beyond me though.


From just doing a little research, aside from the chemistry nuances, its basically just potency.
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PlantLivesMatte
02/27/18 1:18:14 AM
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Hell the fuck no. I've known more than a few heroin addicts, and watching them go through withdrawal is more than enough to make me glad I never made the bad life decision of trying heroin. Also, heroin comes from poppies, which is a plant. Please think of the plants.
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Swampthing1138
02/27/18 1:19:05 AM
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thronedfire2
02/27/18 1:20:29 AM
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No. I had to take Percs for a couple weeks after surgery once and I hated it. Don't know how people can do those for fun
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apolloooo
02/27/18 1:24:54 AM
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
No because i'm not an idiot.

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Payzmaykr
02/27/18 1:25:53 AM
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Dustin1280 posted...
hell no....

ESPECIALLY krokodile...

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