Current Events > Denmark annouces cunning plan to 'end the existence of ghettos'

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Prime Minister Lars Lkke Rasmussen announced in his New Year speech that his government intends to take measures to "end the existence of ghettos" completely.

A first proposal of the government plan on underprivileged areas - defined by the Ministry of Transport and Housing as 'ghettos' - will be presented on Thursday.

Some details of that plan have already been released. Here's what we know so far:

Tougher criminal punishments in specified areas

The government wants to enable police to define zones in which punishments given for certain crimes can be doubled. Police would have the option of implementing double-punishment zones in extraordinary circumstances and must be able to justify the decision.

Housing

Housing companies would be given the right to refuse to rent property to tenants with certain types of criminal convictions dating within the last five years. New legislation will also make it easier for landlords to evict tenants convicted of crimes, with the government arguing that current processes take too long.

Data sharing

Municipalities will be given easier access to the personal information of residents living in underprivileged areas.

Harsher punishments will be introduced for persons working for authorities if they fail to report potential poor conditions for children. Punishments suggested range from fines to four months in prison, or up to a year if circumstances are aggravated.

Social welfare

A person receiving state income payments would see these reduced as a result of moving to a 'ghetto' area as defined by the government. Municipalities will not be allowed to move people receiving the unemployment allowance into these areas.

Children from underprivileged areas attend obligatory daycare

Children living in areas defined as 'ghettos' would be required to attend daycare for at least one year. Should this requirement not be met, municipalities would have the option of cutting child social welfare payments.

Daycare centres would be limited to accepting no more than 30 percent of their children from the underprivileged areas.

Incentives for municipalities

Municipalities that place residents with non-Western immigrant backgrounds in jobs will receive financial bonuses. Students with non-Western backgrounds who achieve year-on-year improvements in school grades will also earn money in the form of bonuses to municipalities.

Full Article: https://www.thelocal.dk/20180228/heres-what-we-know-about-denmarks-ghetto-plan



CE is full of a lot of intellient people with extensive real world eperience.

How do they feel about these notions?
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announces*

Excuse me
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I expected a bunch of hippie bullshit since it's Europe but it's actually a harsh crackdown on the poor. Interesting.
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Sure, the "ghettos" will all but disappear, but the people who can no longer live in them will have to go somewhere. Does Denmark intend to "rehabilitate" this "homeless class" in jail?
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I don't understand how any of that will help. It kinda just sounds like they want to punish people for living in the ghetto without fixing any of the reasons they are poor in the first place.
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eston posted...

I don't understand how any of that will help. It kinda just sounds like they want to punish people for living in the ghetto without fixing any of the reasons they are poor in the first place.

Yeah, I was not expecting these "war on the poor" policies when I clicked this topic. Instead of trying to help people they just want to punish them and make it harder to live somewhere.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

The government wants to enable police to define zones in which punishments given for certain crimes can be doubled. Police would have the option of implementing double-punishment zones in extraordinary circumstances and must be able to justify the decision.

So like road work zones but let's be honest . . . for the blacks?
Horrible, don't privileged (wealthy/white/native) people aren't get better/reduced sentences on average anyways?
This reeks of classism at its best.
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Well thats pretty fucking awful
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

So like road work zones but let's be honest . . . for the blacks?

There's like less than 50,000 black people in Norway

You could fit the entire black population of Norway into a baseball stadium
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

So like road work zones but let's be honest . . . for the blacks?

There's like less than 50,000 black people in Norway

You could fit the entire black population of Norway into a baseball stadium

For the Muslims rather.
is this some weird anti-refugee backlash or are Danish right wingers fucking insane, spiteful, and stupid?
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Also, is this some weird anti-refugee backlash or are Danish right wingers fucking insane, spiteful, and stupid?

Less so than American ones, but yes.

Couldn't this have the unintended affect of causing people to go to affluent places to burgle, mug, and such?

I know I'm stuck on this 1 policy of several terrible ones but this really sticks in my craw.
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I dont understand how anyone thinks a good solution to poverty is to make people poorer

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Couldn't this have the unintended affect of causing people to go to affluent places to burgle, mug, and such?

I know I'm stuck on this 1 policy of several terrible ones but this really sticks in my craw.

That was my idea. Don't rob your poor neighbor, rob the rich people instead.
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ThanksUglyGod posted...

I dont understand how anyone thinks a good solution to poverty is to make people poorer

Does this make people poorer?
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UnfairRepresent posted...

ThanksUglyGod posted...

I dont understand how anyone thinks a good solution to poverty is to make people poorer

Does this make people poorer?

I'd imagine it's designed to make Denmark incredibly unattractive to Muslim migrants so that they'll stick to Sweden.
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Hicks233 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

ThanksUglyGod posted...

I dont understand how anyone thinks a good solution to poverty is to make people poorer

Does this make people poorer?

I'd imagine it's designed to make Denmark incredibly unattractive to Muslim migrants so that they'll stick to Sweden.

They're not refugees if they'd turn down a nation for another one
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Hicks233 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

ThanksUglyGod posted...

I dont understand how anyone thinks a good solution to poverty is to make people poorer

Does this make people poorer?

I'd imagine it's designed to make Denmark incredibly unattractive to Muslim migrants so that they'll stick to Sweden.

They're not refugees if they'd turn down a nation for another one

That's why I used the word migrant.
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Was expecting a naive push to end poverty through social programs. Got a naive push to end poverty through force.
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Let's punish poor people for being poor, absolutely brilliant
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Sounds like this plan misses the Denmark.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Housing companies would be given the right to refuse to rent property to tenants with certain types of criminal convictions dating within the last five years. New legislation will also make it easier for landlords to evict tenants convicted of crimes, with the government arguing that current processes take too long.

Something something, hell-road pavement.

pikachupwnage posted...

Sounds like this plan misses the Denmark.

Lol
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Municipalities that place residents with non-Western immigrant backgrounds in jobs will receive financial bonuses.

Could they possibly be more facially discriminatory?
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It probably will end ghettos though

Might cause unforseen consequences
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Ilishe posted...

It probably will end ghettos though

Might cause unforseen consequences

Thanks gman
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Bump
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Master_Bass posted...

eston posted...

I don't understand how any of that will help. It kinda just sounds like they want to punish people for living in the ghetto without fixing any of the reasons they are poor in the first place.

Yeah, I was not expecting these "war on the poor" policies when I clicked this topic. Instead of trying to help people they just want to punish them and make it harder to live somewhere.

its the only thing they can do after decades of social welfare has created entire generations reliant on the gov't.
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tag for later.
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This probably is a crackdown on places like Freetown. They've had problems there for years.
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E32005 posted...

Master_Bass posted...

eston posted...

I don't understand how any of that will help. It kinda just sounds like they want to punish people for living in the ghetto without fixing any of the reasons they are poor in the first place.

Yeah, I was not expecting these "war on the poor" policies when I clicked this topic. Instead of trying to help people they just want to punish them and make it harder to live somewhere.

its the only thing they can do after decades of social welfare has created entire generations reliant on the gov't.

Only thing eh?
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It sounds like it'll make ghettos worse not better. Does Denmark have some kind if February Fools day?

sounds like a crackdown on the poor

potentially could just force all of them onto the path toward acculturation

the one year mandatory daycare thing is interestnig
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i cant see any of this not going poorly lol
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Harsher punishment has to my knowledge never actually affected criminal action, just incarceration rates.