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LordRazziel
03/09/18 3:00:15 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Should emotion not play a role in law and policy?

appeals to emotion shouldn't. no logical fallacy should have any part in determining any law or policy.

Why is murder illegal?
If a a foreign power is committing genocide, should they be stopped?
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LordRazziel
03/09/18 3:06:13 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
LordRazziel posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Should emotion not play a role in law and policy?

appeals to emotion shouldn't. no logical fallacy should have any part in determining any law or policy.

Why is murder illegal?
If a a foreign power is committing genocide, should they be stopped?

are you suggesting that emotion is the only factor as to why those things are considered crimes against humanity?

I'm asking you to answer the questions.
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Panthera
03/09/18 3:12:14 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...

so you're just going to ignore the part where i said the classes and exams could also be made available stand-alone like driver's ed?


Having them available outside high school doesn't change that a person who doesn't finish high school is less likely to have these classes than someone who does, which will contribute to fewer minorities and poor people qualifying for voting.

DuranOfForcena posted...

and i'm not here to argue about the current state of the educational system, but maybe if we had a more educated voting public overall, we'd have better elected officials who could tackle issues such as that


I don't think making it harder for certain people to even be allowed to vote is a good path to creating a system that better serves those people
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LordRazziel
03/09/18 3:12:21 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
LordRazziel posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
LordRazziel posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Should emotion not play a role in law and policy?

appeals to emotion shouldn't. no logical fallacy should have any part in determining any law or policy.

Why is murder illegal?
If a a foreign power is committing genocide, should they be stopped?

are you suggesting that emotion is the only factor as to why those things are considered crimes against humanity?

I'm asking you to answer the questions.

why though? obviously in order to make some point, so why don't you just get to it?

I don't think emotion is the only reason, but can answer those question without any sort of emotion?
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LordRazziel
03/09/18 3:16:11 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
LordRazziel posted...
can answer those question without any sort of emotion?

yes, i can

Please do and state your reasoning.
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Tyranthraxus
03/09/18 3:23:48 PM
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LordRazziel
03/09/18 3:26:32 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
LordRazziel posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
LordRazziel posted...
can answer those question without any sort of emotion?

yes, i can

Please do and state your reasoning.

why though? it's neither here nor there.

You said that people that vote should be able to separate emotion from their thinking, show you can do it.
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NINExATExSEVEN
03/09/18 3:38:11 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
LordRazziel posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
LordRazziel posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Should emotion not play a role in law and policy?

appeals to emotion shouldn't. no logical fallacy should have any part in determining any law or policy.

Why is murder illegal?
If a a foreign power is committing genocide, should they be stopped?

are you suggesting that emotion is the only factor as to why those things are considered crimes against humanity?

I'm asking you to answer the questions.

why though? obviously in order to make some point, so why don't you just get to it?

I don't think emotion is the only reason, but can answer those question without any sort of emotion?


Your question has nothing to do with emotions. It's human nature to want to survive and you don't have a right to someone else's life. That is all.
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ehhwhatever
03/09/18 3:38:23 PM
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I usually just vote Democratic but I realize it was because I didn't know who to vote for, so now I don't vote. Why? I'm stupid.
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LordRazziel
03/09/18 3:40:51 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
LordRazziel posted...
You said that people that vote should be able to separate emotion from their thinking, show you can do it.

i'm not obligated to show you anything, and what my answers to those questions are has nothing to do with theorizing on applying Plato's criticisms of Athenian democracy to modern democracy

i'm done with this

Right. It has to do with your stated requirements of what a voter should be able to do, but if you're done, you're done. Peace.
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