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TheGreatGenocet
03/14/18 10:31:12 AM
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Lol@all the butthurt sore loser Republicans saying this. Just because he's pro gun and anti abortion doesn't make him "basically a Republican". Saccone was a diehard Trumpian candidate and he lost. Running on an anti abortion pro gun campaign is how you win rural areas as a Democrat. It's not like those things matter because guns won't be banned and row v Wade won't be overturned.

Lamb is pro-obamacare, very pro-union, and pro-social security. He would have voted against the GOP tax bill and the Obamacare repeal just like any other Democrat. Lamb managed to get back the blue collar democratic vote that Trump had in 2016, and that should shock every Trump supporter to the core. There's over 100 districts that Trump won by a smaller margin than PA-18, and if a Democrat won here, they could win in any of those.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
03/14/18 10:32:47 AM
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TheGreatGenocet posted...
There's over 100 districts that Trump won by a smaller margin than PA-18, and if a Democrat won here, they Will win in any of those.

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darkjedilink
03/14/18 10:34:59 AM
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So Dems aren't trying to pass an assault weapons ban RIGHT NOW that bans all semi-automatic weapons AND all weapons capable of holding ten rounds or more?

Being pro-gun and anti-abortion puts him quite a bit closer to Republican than Democrat. That's not spin, it's fact.
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TheGreatGenocet
03/14/18 10:35:42 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
lamb is a blue dog democrat, right?

Pretty much. But blue dog Democrats are still way to the left of any modern Republicans
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Balrog0
03/14/18 10:37:02 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Being pro-gun and anti-abortion puts him quite a bit closer to Republican than Democrat. That's not spin, it's fact.


he is only personally anti-abortion. he will legislate like he is pro-choice. at least according to him
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Balrog0
03/14/18 10:37:30 AM
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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article204751989.html
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TheGreatGenocet
03/14/18 10:38:09 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
So Dems aren't trying to pass an assault weapons ban RIGHT NOW that bans all semi-automatic weapons AND all weapons capable of holding ten rounds or more?

Being pro-gun and anti-abortion puts him quite a bit closer to Republican than Democrat. That's not spin, it's fact.

So the only thing that differentiates between dems and Republicans are those two issues? Lol if you actually think that.
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Sir Will
03/14/18 10:58:08 AM
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TheGreatGenocet posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So Dems aren't trying to pass an assault weapons ban RIGHT NOW that bans all semi-automatic weapons AND all weapons capable of holding ten rounds or more?

Being pro-gun and anti-abortion puts him quite a bit closer to Republican than Democrat. That's not spin, it's fact.

So the only thing that differentiates between dems and Republicans are those two issues? Lol if you actually think that.

This. I mean, maybe he's not ideal but he's not Republican.
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TheVipaGTS
03/14/18 10:59:19 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
he is only personally anti-abortion. he will legislate like he is pro-choice. at least according to him

oh cool. like a normal, logical person.
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PhiSexMachine
03/14/18 11:00:11 AM
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Who tf is lamb
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Antifar
03/14/18 11:01:42 AM
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Lamb is less conservative than he's being portrayed, at least on economic issues:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4syLKd2Rts&feature=youtu.be
https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/973935304951386113
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Balrog0
03/14/18 11:04:00 AM
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Antifar posted...
Lamb is less conservative than he's being portrayed, at least on economic issues:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4syLKd2Rts&feature=youtu.be
https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/973935304951386113


I mean, everyone is talking about him being a social conservative, not a fiscal one, from what I see. The issues I see cited: abortion and gun control, then sometimes his pro-fracking stance, the last of which I guess you can argue is some kind of fiscal conservative stance
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prince_leo
03/14/18 11:04:06 AM
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PhiSexMachine posted...
Who tf is lamb

democrat who won last night in a place that went +20 to Trump
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AlephZero
03/14/18 11:06:42 AM
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A pro-gun Democrat wins in Trump country while Democrats as a whole double down on gun bans. Hmm.
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_Near_
03/14/18 11:07:34 AM
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It doesn't matter how conservative he is. He'll toe the party line which is what Democrats want. It was smart politics to run someone like Lamb in that district. I don't like it, but I a progressive would've been beat easily. A blue dog is better than a trumpanzee.
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darkjedilink
03/14/18 11:08:57 AM
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Sir Will posted...
TheGreatGenocet posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So Dems aren't trying to pass an assault weapons ban RIGHT NOW that bans all semi-automatic weapons AND all weapons capable of holding ten rounds or more?

Being pro-gun and anti-abortion puts him quite a bit closer to Republican than Democrat. That's not spin, it's fact.

So the only thing that differentiates between dems and Republicans are those two issues? Lol if you actually think that.

This. I mean, maybe he's not ideal but he's not Republican.

Name ONE other policy that Dems are as unwilling to bend on, that he supports.
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Balrog0
03/14/18 11:10:12 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Name ONE other policy that Dems are as unwilling to bend on, that he supports.


he is pro choice
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Darkman124
03/14/18 11:10:34 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
the last of which I guess you can argue is some kind of fiscal conservative stance


i think ecological issues are viewed through both lenses, really.
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darkjedilink
03/14/18 11:10:44 AM
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AlephZero posted...
A pro-gun Democrat wins in Trump country while Democrats as a whole double down on gun bans. Hmm.

He won by less than 700 votes, and they call that a blue wave.
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Solar_Crimson
03/14/18 11:11:29 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Being pro-gun and anti-abortion puts him quite a bit closer to Republican than Democrat. That's not spin, it's fact.


he is only personally anti-abortion. he will legislate like he is pro-choice. at least according to him

Good. His own beliefs should not dictate what other people can do.
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Darkman124
03/14/18 11:11:43 AM
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darkjedilink posted...

He won by less than 700 votes, and they call that a blue wave.


you keep telling yourself that

dems will just keep winning elections

one of these approaches is more effective than the other
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darkjedilink
03/14/18 11:11:53 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Name ONE other policy that Dems are as unwilling to bend on, that he supports.

he is pro choice

He supports late-term abortions on demand, fully-funded by the government?
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Balrog0
03/14/18 11:12:42 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
He supports late-term abortions on demand, fully-funded by the government?


lmao

but yeah basically if that is what you think the national democratic party supports, he is fully in step with them on this issue
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darkjedilink
03/14/18 11:12:49 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Balrog0 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Being pro-gun and anti-abortion puts him quite a bit closer to Republican than Democrat. That's not spin, it's fact.

he is only personally anti-abortion. he will legislate like he is pro-choice. at least according to him

Good. His own beliefs should not dictate what other people can do.

Unless it's buying a gun or making a wedding cake, right?
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Darkman124
03/14/18 11:12:55 AM
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darkjedilink posted...

He supports late-term abortions on demand, fully-funded by the government?
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https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/conor-lamb-abortion-catholic-candidate-wrong/
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darkjedilink
03/14/18 11:13:27 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
He supports late-term abortions on demand, fully-funded by the government?

lmao

but yeah basically if that is what you think the national democratic party supports, he is fully in step with them on this issue

So you're just being ignorant, as usual.
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Balrog0
03/14/18 11:14:33 AM
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/conor-lambs-whopper-of-a-lie-on-catholicism-and-abortion/article/2650942

...In a recent interview, Lamb oddly invoked his religion to defend his position in support of late-term abortion. He tells us that he never learned the term pro-life in Catholic school, and therefore he would vote against any limits on abortion, and would even oppose a recent bill to ban abortion past 20 weeks of pregnancy. This late-term abortion ban has bipartisan support in Congress, including that of senior Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa.

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Darkman124
03/14/18 11:14:47 AM
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darkjedilink posted...

So you're just being ignorant, as usual.


this is awkward.
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TheVipaGTS
03/14/18 11:15:46 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
darkjedilink posted...

So you're just being ignorant, as usual.


this is awkward.

stop responding to him.
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TheGreatGenocet
03/14/18 11:17:14 AM
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@darkjedilink

So explain to me, slowly, why you think a Democrat winning in a district won by Trump by 20 points is no big deal? Yes, he only won by 700 votes, but explain to me why a swing from -20 to +0.5 isn't a lot?
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halomonkey1_3_5
03/14/18 11:18:10 AM
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TheGreatGenocet posted...
explain to me why a swing from -20 to +0.5 isn't a lot?

margin of error jmo

nothing to see here

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Antifar
03/14/18 11:19:49 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
He won by less than 700 votes, and they call that a blue wave.

The last time a Democrat ran in this district, they lost by 94,000 votes. More than Hillary lost the entire state by in 2016.
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CableZL
03/14/18 11:21:05 AM
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TheGreatGenocet posted...
@darkjedilink

So explain to me, slowly, why you think a Democrat winning in a district won by Trump by 20 points is no big deal? Yes, he only won by 700 votes, but explain to me why a swing from -20 to +0.5 isn't a lot?


Context is a difficult thing, apparently
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emblem boy
03/14/18 11:22:29 AM
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Is there a standard definition of "late term abortion"
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Disrespector
03/14/18 11:23:43 AM
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CableZL posted...
TheGreatGenocet posted...
@darkjedilink

So explain to me, slowly, why you think a Democrat winning in a district won by Trump by 20 points is no big deal? Yes, he only won by 700 votes, but explain to me why a swing from -20 to +0.5 isn't a lot?


Context is a difficult thing, apparently

Right wingers are allergic to context and facts
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Caution999
03/14/18 11:25:38 AM
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For you left coasters out there, no, a Dem in PA isn't the same as a Dem in Leftifornia.

They're more of a classic Democrat. You know, before the party stopped caring about people and started to cater to ridiculous click bait nonsense.
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DarkChozoGhost
03/14/18 11:31:23 AM
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PA Republicans only really care about abortion, gun control, and gay marriage. A lot will fall for drivel that tricks them into thinking being anti refugee or something is a religious value, but they will vote on those three issues with 100% disregard to anything else.
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0AbsoluteZero0
03/14/18 11:31:27 AM
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TheGreatGenocet posted...
@darkjedilink

So explain to me, slowly, why you think a Democrat winning in a district won by Trump by 20 points is no big deal? Yes, he only won by 700 votes, but explain to me why a swing from -20 to +0.5 isn't a lot?

Exactly. This is a district that Republicans won every single time since 2000 - Democrats had been so uncompetitive in PA-18 that they didnt even field a candidate to contest the district in 2014 and 2016. Thats a pretty fucking significant swing, no matter how hard guys like DJL and Mal Fet pretend it isnt.
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darkjedilink
03/14/18 11:36:54 AM
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TheGreatGenocet posted...
@darkjedilink

So explain to me, slowly, why you think a Democrat winning in a district won by Trump by 20 points is no big deal? Yes, he only won by 700 votes, but explain to me why a swing from -20 to +0.5 isn't a lot?

That is a lot. It also cost Dems a lot of money to get, and they don't get the progressive they want who will support their push for gun control. He isn't going to give them what they want, but they paid a king's ransom for him anyway.

And still gotta do it again in November, meaning this guy has to run AGAIN, with a record on his name. Either he goes against the liberal grain on these issues and gets hammered by liberals like you, or he's voted out of office.

That's if he survives recounts.
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darkjedilink
03/14/18 11:38:51 AM
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Disrespector posted...
CableZL posted...
TheGreatGenocet posted...
@darkjedilink

So explain to me, slowly, why you think a Democrat winning in a district won by Trump by 20 points is no big deal? Yes, he only won by 700 votes, but explain to me why a swing from -20 to +0.5 isn't a lot?


Context is a difficult thing, apparently

Right wingers are allergic to context and facts

Facts like how the assault weapons ban had no effect on gun crime, or black people are statistically the most violent race in America?
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TheGreatGenocet
03/14/18 11:39:22 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
darkjedilink posted...
That is a lot. It also cost Dems a lot of money to get

No. It didn't. Over 10 million was given to Saccone from outside sources. Lamb received a little over 1 million. Lamb and his people raised over 3 million themselves.

Lol how cute, now he's just posting verifiable misinformation to back up his claims
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ultimate reaver
03/14/18 11:41:55 AM
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i didnt think conservs could handle this as poorly as they are but here we are
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Anteaterking
03/14/18 11:50:06 AM
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Caution999 posted...
You know, before the party stopped caring about people and started to cater to ridiculous click bait nonsense.


It's just as flawed to think of the Democratic party as being just the "blue collar party" as it is to think it's just the "party of diversity".
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