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gbpxl 03/15/18 6:12:50 PM #1:	Repeal the 2nd Amendment Yes - repeal it No - do not repeal it View Results ....? <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897873086] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote> Repeal the 2nd Amendment Yes - repeal it No - do not repeal it View Results ....?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 03/15/18 6:14:03 PM #2:	No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:897873154] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote>No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gbpxl 03/15/18 6:15:48 PM #3:	sktgamer_13dude posted... No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping. Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas) <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897873238] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping.</quote> Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 03/15/18 6:16:08 PM #4:	Remember when liberals were all like "no one wants to ban guns, slippery slope fallacy etc..." Now they're just outright saying repeal the 2nd Ammendment openly. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:897873258] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote>Remember when liberals were all like "no one wants to ban guns, slippery slope fallacy etc..." Now they're just outright saying repeal the 2nd Ammendment openly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 03/15/18 6:17:14 PM #5:	What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it? <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:897873312] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote>What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KainWind 03/15/18 6:17:21 PM #6:	gbpxl posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping. Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas) We should make killing people illegal too while we're at it. --- http://i.imgtc.com/pRZqu18C.gif http://i.imgtc.com/jccgiB1G.gif http://i.imgtc.com/WEkU41Yb.gif http://i.imgtc.com/dBcIyU2x.gif <cite>KainWind posted [p:897873320] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping.</quote> Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas)</quote> We should make killing people illegal too while we're at it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gbpxl 03/15/18 6:21:22 PM #7:	Howl posted... Remember when liberals were all like "no one wants to ban guns, slippery slope fallacy etc..." Now they're just outright saying repeal the 2nd Ammendment openly. Those liberals speak for themselves, just like how I am sure there are people in your political party or ethnic group who have differing opinions from your own. I'm not stupid. I know that mass shootings happen even without assault weapons. That's why I say just ban em all. <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897873537] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Remember when liberals were all like "no one wants to ban guns, slippery slope fallacy etc..." Now they're just outright saying repeal the 2nd Ammendment openly.</quote> Those liberals speak for themselves, just like how I am sure there are people in your political party or ethnic group who have differing opinions from your own. I'm not stupid. I know that mass shootings happen even without assault weapons. That's why I say just ban em all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 03/15/18 6:21:32 PM #8:	The second amendment is literally the only Constitutional right we have to defend ourselves. You don't have a right for the police to protect you, FYI. That was judged in 2005. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:897873551] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote>The second amendment is literally the only Constitutional right we have to defend ourselves. You don't have a right for the police to protect you, FYI. That was judged in 2005.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 03/15/18 6:21:51 PM #9:	gbpxl posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping. Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas) You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:897873576] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping.</quote> Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas)</quote> You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 03/15/18 6:22:40 PM #10:	Howl posted... Remember when liberals were all like "no one wants to ban guns, slippery slope fallacy etc..." Now they're just outright saying repeal the 2nd Ammendment openly. Go into an CE topic about gun control and you will still see this. --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:897873617] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Remember when liberals were all like "no one wants to ban guns, slippery slope fallacy etc..." Now they're just outright saying repeal the 2nd Ammendment openly.</quote> Go into an CE topic about gun control and you will still see this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gbpxl 03/15/18 6:24:40 PM #11:	_RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping. Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas) You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws. This proves my point more than it does his. You can enforce all the mental health, background checks, and gun classes you want, this shooting still would have happened if that's all you've got for solutions. <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897873729] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping.</quote> Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas)</quote> You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws.</quote> This proves my point more than it does his. You can enforce all the mental health, background checks, and gun classes you want, this shooting still would have happened if that's all you've got for solutions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gbpxl 03/15/18 6:25:45 PM #12:	Sephiroth1288 posted... The second amendment is literally the only Constitutional right we have to defend ourselves. You don't have a right for the police to protect you, FYI. That was judged in 2005. Why do you need a gun? Can't you defend yourself with a crossbow? Mace? A knife? Your fists? <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897873804] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>The second amendment is literally the only Constitutional right we have to defend ourselves. You don't have a right for the police to protect you, FYI. That was judged in 2005.</quote> Why do you need a gun? Can't you defend yourself with a crossbow? Mace? A knife? Your fists?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gbpxl 03/15/18 6:27:13 PM #13:	_RETS_ posted... What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it? Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun. <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897873911] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote>What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it?</quote> Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 03/15/18 6:27:44 PM #14:	gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping. Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas) You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws. This proves my point more than it does his. You can enforce all the mental health, background checks, and gun classes you want, this shooting still would have happened if that's all you've got for solutions. "Banning all guns" isn't a solution either. It is no more a solution that "snap your fingers and have all guns disappear." The 2nd amendment is necessary for people to maintain the right to defend themselves and not be easy targets for anyone looking to impose harm. Improving mental health, family life, community bonding, personal ownership, processes through which guns are obtained, etc are all necessary, but they do not negate the necessity of the right to self defense. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:897873945] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping.</quote> Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas)</quote> You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws.</quote> This proves my point more than it does his. You can enforce all the mental health, background checks, and gun classes you want, this shooting still would have happened if that's all you've got for solutions.</quote> "Banning all guns" isn't a solution either. It is no more a solution that "snap your fingers and have all guns disappear." The 2nd amendment is necessary for people to maintain the right to defend themselves and not be easy targets for anyone looking to impose harm. Improving mental health, family life, community bonding, personal ownership, processes through which guns are obtained, etc are all necessary, but they do not negate the necessity of the right to self defense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 03/15/18 6:28:56 PM #15:	gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it? Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun. I know you're trolling, because you can't be this dumb, but I'll humor you anyway. Tonight an armed individual breaks into your home. What happens? Is being able to proportionately defend yourself not a legitimate reason? <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:897874025] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote>What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it?</quote> Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun.</quote> I know you're trolling, because you can't be this dumb, but I'll humor you anyway. Tonight an armed individual breaks into your home. What happens? Is being able to proportionately defend yourself not a legitimate reason?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
psvitantifail 03/15/18 6:28:58 PM #16:	gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it? Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun. This is a troll. --- America will never fall to liberals or communist invasion! <cite>psvitantifail posted [p:897874027] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote>What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it?</quote> Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun.</quote> This is a troll.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 03/15/18 6:29:17 PM #17:	No. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:897874049] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote>No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 03/15/18 6:29:23 PM #18:	gbpxl posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... The second amendment is literally the only Constitutional right we have to defend ourselves. You don't have a right for the police to protect you, FYI. That was judged in 2005. Why do you need a gun? Can't you defend yourself with a crossbow? Mace? A knife? Your fists? Could I? Maybe, maybe not. A woman or elderly person armed only with a knife would have a vanishingly lower chance against a 20-something man with a knife though. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:897874055] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>The second amendment is literally the only Constitutional right we have to defend ourselves. You don't have a right for the police to protect you, FYI. That was judged in 2005.</quote> Why do you need a gun? Can't you defend yourself with a crossbow? Mace? A knife? Your fists?</quote> Could I? Maybe, maybe not. A woman or elderly person armed only with a knife would have a vanishingly lower chance against a 20-something man with a knife though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 03/15/18 6:30:43 PM #19:	TC is advocating for people have lower chances of deterrence and successful self-defense against those who wish to do them harm. That is evil. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:897874148] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote>TC is advocating for people have lower chances of deterrence and successful self-defense against those who wish to do them harm. That is evil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 03/15/18 6:31:34 PM #20:	gbpxl posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping. Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas) Better background check would have made it so he wouldnt have been allowed to get a gun. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:897874211] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping.</quote> Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas)</quote> Better background check would have made it so he wouldnt have been allowed to get a gun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gbpxl 03/15/18 6:31:58 PM #21:	_RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it? Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun. I know you're trolling, because you can't be this dumb, but I'll humor you anyway. Tonight an armed individual breaks into your home. What happens? Is being able to proportionately defend yourself not a legitimate reason? If he didn't have a gun, I wouldn't need a gun to defend myself. If they outlawed the sale of guns to citizens, it would be nearly impossible for a private citizen to obtain a gun. <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897874236] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote>What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it?</quote> Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun.</quote> I know you're trolling, because you can't be this dumb, but I'll humor you anyway. Tonight an armed individual breaks into your home. What happens? Is being able to proportionately defend yourself not a legitimate reason?</quote> If he didn't have a gun, I wouldn't need a gun to defend myself. If they outlawed the sale of guns to citizens, it would be nearly impossible for a private citizen to obtain a gun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gbpxl 03/15/18 6:33:24 PM #22:	_RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping. Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas) You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws. This proves my point more than it does his. You can enforce all the mental health, background checks, and gun classes you want, this shooting still would have happened if that's all you've got for solutions. "Banning all guns" isn't a solution either. It is no more a solution that "snap your fingers and have all guns disappear." The 2nd amendment is necessary for people to maintain the right to defend themselves and not be easy targets for anyone looking to impose harm. Improving mental health, family life, community bonding, personal ownership, processes through which guns are obtained, etc are all necessary, but they do not negate the necessity of the right to self defense. Why do you need a gun for self-defense? There are lots of ways one can defend themselves without a gun. <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897874334] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping.</quote> Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas)</quote> You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws.</quote> This proves my point more than it does his. You can enforce all the mental health, background checks, and gun classes you want, this shooting still would have happened if that's all you've got for solutions.</quote> "Banning all guns" isn't a solution either. It is no more a solution that "snap your fingers and have all guns disappear." The 2nd amendment is necessary for people to maintain the right to defend themselves and not be easy targets for anyone looking to impose harm. Improving mental health, family life, community bonding, personal ownership, processes through which guns are obtained, etc are all necessary, but they do not negate the necessity of the right to self defense.</quote>Why do you need a gun for self-defense? There are lots of ways one can defend themselves without a gun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 03/15/18 6:33:52 PM #23:	gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it? Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun. I know you're trolling, because you can't be this dumb, but I'll humor you anyway. Tonight an armed individual breaks into your home. What happens? Is being able to proportionately defend yourself not a legitimate reason? If he didn't have a gun, I wouldn't need a gun to defend myself. If they outlawed the sale of guns to citizens, it would be nearly impossible for a private citizen to obtain a gun. That isn't what I asked and you are demonstrating your inability to think. If TONIGHT someone with a gun comes into your home, how does that go? Because banning all guns will do absolutely nothing in the short term except for prevent citizen's access to self defense against people who already have guns. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:897874371] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote>What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it?</quote> Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun.</quote> I know you're trolling, because you can't be this dumb, but I'll humor you anyway. Tonight an armed individual breaks into your home. What happens? Is being able to proportionately defend yourself not a legitimate reason?</quote> If he didn't have a gun, I wouldn't need a gun to defend myself. If they outlawed the sale of guns to citizens, it would be nearly impossible for a private citizen to obtain a gun.</quote> That isn't what I asked and you are demonstrating your inability to think. If TONIGHT someone with a gun comes into your home, how does that go? Because banning all guns will do absolutely nothing in the short term except for prevent citizen's access to self defense against people who already have guns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 03/15/18 6:34:03 PM #24:	Maybe we should have background checks for people who rent trucks. They are pretty effective at killing people. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:897874384] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote>Maybe we should have background checks for people who rent trucks. They are pretty effective at killing people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 03/15/18 6:35:13 PM #25:	gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping. Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas) You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws. This proves my point more than it does his. You can enforce all the mental health, background checks, and gun classes you want, this shooting still would have happened if that's all you've got for solutions. "Banning all guns" isn't a solution either. It is no more a solution that "snap your fingers and have all guns disappear." The 2nd amendment is necessary for people to maintain the right to defend themselves and not be easy targets for anyone looking to impose harm. Improving mental health, family life, community bonding, personal ownership, processes through which guns are obtained, etc are all necessary, but they do not negate the necessity of the right to self defense. Why do you need a gun for self-defense? There are lots of ways one can defend themselves without a gun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=G7OshCHsfJI Tell us how this 11 year-old boy could have defended himself without a gun. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:897874469] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping.</quote> Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas)</quote> You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws.</quote> This proves my point more than it does his. You can enforce all the mental health, background checks, and gun classes you want, this shooting still would have happened if that's all you've got for solutions.</quote> "Banning all guns" isn't a solution either. It is no more a solution that "snap your fingers and have all guns disappear." The 2nd amendment is necessary for people to maintain the right to defend themselves and not be easy targets for anyone looking to impose harm. Improving mental health, family life, community bonding, personal ownership, processes through which guns are obtained, etc are all necessary, but they do not negate the necessity of the right to self defense.</quote>Why do you need a gun for self-defense? There are lots of ways one can defend themselves without a gun.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=G7OshCHsfJI Tell us how this 11 year-old boy could have defended himself without a gun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 03/15/18 6:35:20 PM #26:	gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping. Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas) You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws. This proves my point more than it does his. You can enforce all the mental health, background checks, and gun classes you want, this shooting still would have happened if that's all you've got for solutions. "Banning all guns" isn't a solution either. It is no more a solution that "snap your fingers and have all guns disappear." The 2nd amendment is necessary for people to maintain the right to defend themselves and not be easy targets for anyone looking to impose harm. Improving mental health, family life, community bonding, personal ownership, processes through which guns are obtained, etc are all necessary, but they do not negate the necessity of the right to self defense. Why do you need a gun for self-defense? There are lots of ways one can defend themselves without a gun. Because people who wish to do harm have guns. In your fantasy land where a gun ban instantly erases guns from existence, then sure, they aren't needed. But that isn't the case and your "solution" will lead to more deaths of innocent people in your lifetime than it will save. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:897874474] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping.</quote> Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas)</quote> You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws.</quote> This proves my point more than it does his. You can enforce all the mental health, background checks, and gun classes you want, this shooting still would have happened if that's all you've got for solutions.</quote> "Banning all guns" isn't a solution either. It is no more a solution that "snap your fingers and have all guns disappear." The 2nd amendment is necessary for people to maintain the right to defend themselves and not be easy targets for anyone looking to impose harm. Improving mental health, family life, community bonding, personal ownership, processes through which guns are obtained, etc are all necessary, but they do not negate the necessity of the right to self defense.</quote>Why do you need a gun for self-defense? There are lots of ways one can defend themselves without a gun.</quote> Because people who wish to do harm have guns. In your fantasy land where a gun ban instantly erases guns from existence, then sure, they aren't needed. But that isn't the case and your "solution" will lead to more deaths of innocent people in your lifetime than it will save.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
psvitantifail 03/15/18 6:35:29 PM #27:	The bait is delicious. --- America will never fall to liberals or communist invasion! <cite>psvitantifail posted [p:897874482] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote>The bait is delicious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gbpxl 03/15/18 6:36:05 PM #28:	DragonGirlYuki posted... Maybe we should have background checks for people who rent trucks. They are pretty effective at killing people. Um, yeah. I would agree on that.... <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897874525] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe we should have background checks for people who rent trucks. They are pretty effective at killing people.</quote> Um, yeah. I would agree on that....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 03/15/18 6:36:50 PM #29:	psvitantifail posted... The bait is delicious. The purpose of engaging with trolls like TC is because morons who actually DO think what he does can see why their thinking is flawed. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:897874565] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>psvitantifail posted...</cite> <quote>The bait is delicious.</quote> The purpose of engaging with trolls like TC is because morons who actually DO think what he does can see why their thinking is flawed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/15/18 6:37:54 PM #30:	"This wouldn't work. It just wouldn't work." "It's worked for every other nation on Earth" "IT JUST WOULDN'T WORK OKAY!" --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:897874649] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote>"This wouldn't work. It just wouldn't work." "It's worked for every other nation on Earth" "IT JUST WOULDN'T WORK OKAY!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 03/15/18 6:38:08 PM #31:	Even if I felt the current number of guns available was the problem, a straight repeal of the 2nd ammendment would feel too "dystopian" in the context of the united states. I'd fully support ammendments that supplemented the 2nd with stricter regulations, but I think a complete gun ban should be saved as a last resort, considering how many responsible gun owners/hunters/hobbyists are out there that don't murder people. --- Story Lovers Welcome! https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1443-writers-cafe http://i.imgtc.com/YQId2Bz.png <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:897874668] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote>Even if I felt the current number of guns available was the problem, a straight repeal of the 2nd ammendment would feel too "dystopian" in the context of the united states. I'd fully support ammendments that supplemented the 2nd with stricter regulations, but I think a complete gun ban should be saved as a last resort, considering how many responsible gun owners/hunters/hobbyists are out there that don't murder people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 03/15/18 6:38:56 PM #32:	UnfairRepresent posted... "This wouldn't work. It just wouldn't work." "It's worked for every other nation on Earth" "IT JUST WOULDN'T WORK OKAY!" But it didn't work for every other nation on earth... --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:897874718] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>"This wouldn't work. It just wouldn't work." "It's worked for every other nation on Earth" "IT JUST WOULDN'T WORK OKAY!"</quote> But it didn't work for every other nation on earth...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gbpxl 03/15/18 6:39:39 PM #33:	Sephiroth1288 posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping. Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas) You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws. This proves my point more than it does his. You can enforce all the mental health, background checks, and gun classes you want, this shooting still would have happened if that's all you've got for solutions. "Banning all guns" isn't a solution either. It is no more a solution that "snap your fingers and have all guns disappear." The 2nd amendment is necessary for people to maintain the right to defend themselves and not be easy targets for anyone looking to impose harm. Improving mental health, family life, community bonding, personal ownership, processes through which guns are obtained, etc are all necessary, but they do not negate the necessity of the right to self defense. Why do you need a gun for self-defense? There are lots of ways one can defend themselves without a gun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=G7OshCHsfJI Tell us how this 11 year-old boy could have defended himself without a gun. Why does a home invasion always need to end in a confrontation? If I am home alone and someone is breaking into my house, I'm leaving and calling 911. <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897874767] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping.</quote> Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas)</quote> You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws.</quote> This proves my point more than it does his. You can enforce all the mental health, background checks, and gun classes you want, this shooting still would have happened if that's all you've got for solutions.</quote> "Banning all guns" isn't a solution either. It is no more a solution that "snap your fingers and have all guns disappear." The 2nd amendment is necessary for people to maintain the right to defend themselves and not be easy targets for anyone looking to impose harm. Improving mental health, family life, community bonding, personal ownership, processes through which guns are obtained, etc are all necessary, but they do not negate the necessity of the right to self defense.</quote>Why do you need a gun for self-defense? There are lots of ways one can defend themselves without a gun.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=G7OshCHsfJI Tell us how this 11 year-old boy could have defended himself without a gun.</quote> Why does a home invasion always need to end in a confrontation? If I am home alone and someone is breaking into my house, I'm leaving and calling 911.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/15/18 6:41:47 PM #34:	No other nation on Earth has routine mass shootings like the US does. No other nation has to debate whether or not to fire guns in schools as drills so students know what to do soon the next time someone tries to murder them No one nation on Earth wants to arm teachers so when one kid comes in with a gun and kills people the teacher can just kill the kid and prevent the death toll from going above 5. This is solely a US problem. The refusal to accept that makes any point raised dubious because of blatant unwilliness to admit reality. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:897874912] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote>No other nation on Earth has routine mass shootings like the US does. No other nation has to debate whether or not to fire guns in schools as drills so students know what to do soon the next time someone tries to murder them No one nation on Earth wants to arm teachers so when one kid comes in with a gun and kills people the teacher can just kill the kid and prevent the death toll from going above 5. This is solely a US problem. The refusal to accept that makes any point raised dubious because of blatant unwilliness to admit reality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gbpxl 03/15/18 6:42:04 PM #35:	_RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping. Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas) You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws. This proves my point more than it does his. You can enforce all the mental health, background checks, and gun classes you want, this shooting still would have happened if that's all you've got for solutions. "Banning all guns" isn't a solution either. It is no more a solution that "snap your fingers and have all guns disappear." The 2nd amendment is necessary for people to maintain the right to defend themselves and not be easy targets for anyone looking to impose harm. Improving mental health, family life, community bonding, personal ownership, processes through which guns are obtained, etc are all necessary, but they do not negate the necessity of the right to self defense. Why do you need a gun for self-defense? There are lots of ways one can defend themselves without a gun. Because people who wish to do harm have guns. In your fantasy land where a gun ban instantly erases guns from existence, then sure, they aren't needed. But that isn't the case and your "solution" will lead to more deaths of innocent people in your lifetime than it will save. I never said that it magically erases them, but it would greatly reduce the amount of innocent people that are randomly shot to death and eventually when people run out of ammo and they can't buy anymore, we'll just have to worry about mass stabbings, which are a hell of a lot easier to deal with. I live close to St. Cloud, MN where the Somali went on his jihad quest with a knife. no one died. much rather deal with that. <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897874927] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping.</quote> Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas)</quote> You really don't want to use Parkland as an example. The local police and FBI completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easily preventable with existing laws.</quote> This proves my point more than it does his. You can enforce all the mental health, background checks, and gun classes you want, this shooting still would have happened if that's all you've got for solutions.</quote> "Banning all guns" isn't a solution either. It is no more a solution that "snap your fingers and have all guns disappear." The 2nd amendment is necessary for people to maintain the right to defend themselves and not be easy targets for anyone looking to impose harm. Improving mental health, family life, community bonding, personal ownership, processes through which guns are obtained, etc are all necessary, but they do not negate the necessity of the right to self defense.</quote>Why do you need a gun for self-defense? There are lots of ways one can defend themselves without a gun.</quote> Because people who wish to do harm have guns. In your fantasy land where a gun ban instantly erases guns from existence, then sure, they aren't needed. But that isn't the case and your "solution" will lead to more deaths of innocent people in your lifetime than it will save.</quote> I never said that it magically erases them, but it would greatly reduce the amount of innocent people that are randomly shot to death and eventually when people run out of ammo and they can't buy anymore, we'll just have to worry about mass stabbings, which are a hell of a lot easier to deal with. I live close to St. Cloud, MN where the Somali went on his jihad quest with a knife. no one died. much rather deal with that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 03/15/18 6:43:56 PM #36:	Don't repeal it; just keep guns out of the hands of people who can't be trusted with them. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:897875048] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote>Don't repeal it; just keep guns out of the hands of people who can't be trusted with them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 03/15/18 6:44:26 PM #37:	gbpxl posted... I never said that it magically erases them, but it would greatly reduce the amount of innocent people that are randomly shot to death and eventually when people run out of ammo and they can't buy anymore, we'll just have to worry about mass stabbings, which are a hell of a lot easier to deal with. I live close to St. Cloud, MN where the Somali went on his jihad quest with a knife. no one died. much rather deal with that. Great. Until then we can bury the corpses of every innocent defenseless person killed by an armed criminal in your back yard. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:897875078] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote>I never said that it magically erases them, but it would greatly reduce the amount of innocent people that are randomly shot to death and eventually when people run out of ammo and they can't buy anymore, we'll just have to worry about mass stabbings, which are a hell of a lot easier to deal with. I live close to St. Cloud, MN where the Somali went on his jihad quest with a knife. no one died. much rather deal with that.</quote> Great. Until then we can bury the corpses of every innocent defenseless person killed by an armed criminal in your back yard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 03/15/18 6:45:15 PM #38:	UnfairRepresent posted... No other nation on Earth has routine mass shootings like the US does. Wrong. Gotta account for death rates from mass shootings and population, not just the raw numbers. When comparing the US and European countries, the US doesn't even make the top 10. https://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/ --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:897875133] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>No other nation on Earth has routine mass shootings like the US does.</quote> Wrong. Gotta account for death rates from mass shootings and population, not just the raw numbers. When comparing the US and European countries, the US doesn't even make the top 10. https://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gbpxl 03/15/18 6:45:40 PM #39:	_RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it? Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun. I know you're trolling, because you can't be this dumb, but I'll humor you anyway. Tonight an armed individual breaks into your home. What happens? Is being able to proportionately defend yourself not a legitimate reason? If he didn't have a gun, I wouldn't need a gun to defend myself. If they outlawed the sale of guns to citizens, it would be nearly impossible for a private citizen to obtain a gun. That isn't what I asked and you are demonstrating your inability to think. If TONIGHT someone with a gun comes into your home, how does that go? Because banning all guns will do absolutely nothing in the short term except for prevent citizen's access to self defense against people who already have guns. Bad guys get guns the same way good guys do. They buy them from the store. <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897875156] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote>What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it?</quote> Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun.</quote> I know you're trolling, because you can't be this dumb, but I'll humor you anyway. Tonight an armed individual breaks into your home. What happens? Is being able to proportionately defend yourself not a legitimate reason?</quote> If he didn't have a gun, I wouldn't need a gun to defend myself. If they outlawed the sale of guns to citizens, it would be nearly impossible for a private citizen to obtain a gun.</quote> That isn't what I asked and you are demonstrating your inability to think. If TONIGHT someone with a gun comes into your home, how does that go? Because banning all guns will do absolutely nothing in the short term except for prevent citizen's access to self defense against people who already have guns.</quote> Bad guys get guns the same way good guys do. They buy them from the store.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 03/15/18 6:46:34 PM #40:	gbpxl posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping. Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas) We already had enough in the way of policy to prevent that. The government just didn't follow them. No need to steal any rights. --- "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:897875212] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping.</quote> Can you explain to me how any of that would have prevented the most recent high profile shooting (Stoneman Douglas)</quote> We already had enough in the way of policy to prevent that. The government just didn't follow them. No need to steal any rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/15/18 6:46:55 PM #41:	_RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... I never said that it magically erases them, but it would greatly reduce the amount of innocent people that are randomly shot to death and eventually when people run out of ammo and they can't buy anymore, we'll just have to worry about mass stabbings, which are a hell of a lot easier to deal with. I live close to St. Cloud, MN where the Somali went on his jihad quest with a knife. no one died. much rather deal with that. Great. Until then we can bury the corpses of every innocent defenseless person killed by an armed criminal in your back yard. This is kind of a silly argument because there is literally no solution other than wiping out the entire human race that will stop innocents from being shot overnight. No matter what action or inaction is taken, it's going to be an "Eventually" before things get worse or better. It's a lazy rebuttal and a weird thing to express that you won't accept a solution that isn't instant. You might as well not accept any treatment for disease or illness that doesn't cure you overnight --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:897875238] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote>I never said that it magically erases them, but it would greatly reduce the amount of innocent people that are randomly shot to death and eventually when people run out of ammo and they can't buy anymore, we'll just have to worry about mass stabbings, which are a hell of a lot easier to deal with. I live close to St. Cloud, MN where the Somali went on his jihad quest with a knife. no one died. much rather deal with that.</quote> Great. Until then we can bury the corpses of every innocent defenseless person killed by an armed criminal in your back yard.</quote> This is kind of a silly argument because there is literally no solution other than wiping out the entire human race that will stop innocents from being shot overnight. No matter what action or inaction is taken, it's going to be an "Eventually" before things get worse or better. It's a lazy rebuttal and a weird thing to express that you won't accept a solution that isn't instant. You might as well not accept any treatment for disease or illness that doesn't cure you overnight</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 03/15/18 6:47:36 PM #42:	gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it? Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun. I know you're trolling, because you can't be this dumb, but I'll humor you anyway. Tonight an armed individual breaks into your home. What happens? Is being able to proportionately defend yourself not a legitimate reason? If he didn't have a gun, I wouldn't need a gun to defend myself. If they outlawed the sale of guns to citizens, it would be nearly impossible for a private citizen to obtain a gun. That isn't what I asked and you are demonstrating your inability to think. If TONIGHT someone with a gun comes into your home, how does that go? Because banning all guns will do absolutely nothing in the short term except for prevent citizen's access to self defense against people who already have guns. Bad guys get guns the same way good guys do. They buy them from the store. Or steal them. Or buy them from an illegal seller..... <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:897875284] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote>What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it?</quote> Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun.</quote> I know you're trolling, because you can't be this dumb, but I'll humor you anyway. Tonight an armed individual breaks into your home. What happens? Is being able to proportionately defend yourself not a legitimate reason?</quote> If he didn't have a gun, I wouldn't need a gun to defend myself. If they outlawed the sale of guns to citizens, it would be nearly impossible for a private citizen to obtain a gun.</quote> That isn't what I asked and you are demonstrating your inability to think. If TONIGHT someone with a gun comes into your home, how does that go? Because banning all guns will do absolutely nothing in the short term except for prevent citizen's access to self defense against people who already have guns.</quote> Bad guys get guns the same way good guys do. They buy them from the store.</quote> Or steal them. Or buy them from an illegal seller.....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gbpxl 03/15/18 6:48:27 PM #43:	_RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... I never said that it magically erases them, but it would greatly reduce the amount of innocent people that are randomly shot to death and eventually when people run out of ammo and they can't buy anymore, we'll just have to worry about mass stabbings, which are a hell of a lot easier to deal with. I live close to St. Cloud, MN where the Somali went on his jihad quest with a knife. no one died. much rather deal with that. Great. Until then we can bury the corpses of every innocent defenseless person killed by an armed criminal in your back yard. Why would there be innocent defenseless people killed by armed criminals if they (good guys) still have ammo? by the way, how long after a gun is bought, is that gun used in a crime? it doesn't seem like someone uses a gun that was purchased 20+ years ago to go and commit a crime. <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897875356] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote>I never said that it magically erases them, but it would greatly reduce the amount of innocent people that are randomly shot to death and eventually when people run out of ammo and they can't buy anymore, we'll just have to worry about mass stabbings, which are a hell of a lot easier to deal with. I live close to St. Cloud, MN where the Somali went on his jihad quest with a knife. no one died. much rather deal with that.</quote> Great. Until then we can bury the corpses of every innocent defenseless person killed by an armed criminal in your back yard.</quote> Why would there be innocent defenseless people killed by armed criminals if they (good guys) still have ammo? by the way, how long after a gun is bought, is that gun used in a crime? it doesn't seem like someone uses a gun that was purchased 20+ years ago to go and commit a crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gbpxl 03/15/18 6:49:32 PM #44:	_RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it? Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun. I know you're trolling, because you can't be this dumb, but I'll humor you anyway. Tonight an armed individual breaks into your home. What happens? Is being able to proportionately defend yourself not a legitimate reason? If he didn't have a gun, I wouldn't need a gun to defend myself. If they outlawed the sale of guns to citizens, it would be nearly impossible for a private citizen to obtain a gun. That isn't what I asked and you are demonstrating your inability to think. If TONIGHT someone with a gun comes into your home, how does that go? Because banning all guns will do absolutely nothing in the short term except for prevent citizen's access to self defense against people who already have guns. Bad guys get guns the same way good guys do. They buy them from the store. Or steal them. Or buy them from an illegal seller..... In the last 3 high profile mass shootings, the guns were bought legally, and they passed background checks. <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897875426] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote>What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it?</quote> Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun.</quote> I know you're trolling, because you can't be this dumb, but I'll humor you anyway. Tonight an armed individual breaks into your home. What happens? Is being able to proportionately defend yourself not a legitimate reason?</quote> If he didn't have a gun, I wouldn't need a gun to defend myself. If they outlawed the sale of guns to citizens, it would be nearly impossible for a private citizen to obtain a gun.</quote> That isn't what I asked and you are demonstrating your inability to think. If TONIGHT someone with a gun comes into your home, how does that go? Because banning all guns will do absolutely nothing in the short term except for prevent citizen's access to self defense against people who already have guns.</quote> Bad guys get guns the same way good guys do. They buy them from the store.</quote> Or steal them. Or buy them from an illegal seller.....</quote> In the last 3 high profile mass shootings, the guns were bought legally, and they passed background checks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 03/15/18 6:50:12 PM #45:	UnfairRepresent posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... I never said that it magically erases them, but it would greatly reduce the amount of innocent people that are randomly shot to death and eventually when people run out of ammo and they can't buy anymore, we'll just have to worry about mass stabbings, which are a hell of a lot easier to deal with. I live close to St. Cloud, MN where the Somali went on his jihad quest with a knife. no one died. much rather deal with that. Great. Until then we can bury the corpses of every innocent defenseless person killed by an armed criminal in your back yard. This is kind of a silly argument because there is literally no solution other than wiping out the entire human race that will stop innocents from being shot overnight. No matter what action or inaction is taken, it's going to be an "Eventually" before things get worse or better. It's a lazy rebuttal and a weird thing to express that you won't accept a solution that isn't instant. You might as well not accept any treatment for disease or illness that doesn't cure you overnight Nope. Both short and long-term measures need to be taken. Banning guns does absolutely nothing in the short term, so what is the solution in the meantime while we wait for the long term solution to be effective? I agree 100% with putting measures in place to prevent the wrong people from getting guns. Tighter screening processes, better access to mental healthcare, etc. Shit that I have already laid out ITT. But NONE of that, while it is absolutely necessary and should be sought after, is immediately effective. So what is the short term safeguard? The ability of defense, that's what. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:897875472] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote>I never said that it magically erases them, but it would greatly reduce the amount of innocent people that are randomly shot to death and eventually when people run out of ammo and they can't buy anymore, we'll just have to worry about mass stabbings, which are a hell of a lot easier to deal with. I live close to St. Cloud, MN where the Somali went on his jihad quest with a knife. no one died. much rather deal with that.</quote> Great. Until then we can bury the corpses of every innocent defenseless person killed by an armed criminal in your back yard.</quote> This is kind of a silly argument because there is literally no solution other than wiping out the entire human race that will stop innocents from being shot overnight. No matter what action or inaction is taken, it's going to be an "Eventually" before things get worse or better. It's a lazy rebuttal and a weird thing to express that you won't accept a solution that isn't instant. You might as well not accept any treatment for disease or illness that doesn't cure you overnight</quote> Nope. Both short and long-term measures need to be taken. Banning guns does absolutely nothing in the short term, so what is the solution in the meantime while we wait for the long term solution to be effective? I agree 100% with putting measures in place to prevent the wrong people from getting guns. Tighter screening processes, better access to mental healthcare, etc. Shit that I have already laid out ITT. But NONE of that, while it is absolutely necessary and should be sought after, is immediately effective. So what is the short term safeguard? The ability of defense, that's what.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gbpxl 03/15/18 6:51:51 PM #46:	_RETS_ posted... UnfairRepresent posted... _RETS_ posted... gbpxl posted... I never said that it magically erases them, but it would greatly reduce the amount of innocent people that are randomly shot to death and eventually when people run out of ammo and they can't buy anymore, we'll just have to worry about mass stabbings, which are a hell of a lot easier to deal with. I live close to St. Cloud, MN where the Somali went on his jihad quest with a knife. no one died. much rather deal with that. Great. Until then we can bury the corpses of every innocent defenseless person killed by an armed criminal in your back yard. This is kind of a silly argument because there is literally no solution other than wiping out the entire human race that will stop innocents from being shot overnight. No matter what action or inaction is taken, it's going to be an "Eventually" before things get worse or better. It's a lazy rebuttal and a weird thing to express that you won't accept a solution that isn't instant. You might as well not accept any treatment for disease or illness that doesn't cure you overnight Nope. Both short and long-term measures need to be taken. Banning guns does absolutely nothing in the short term, so what is the solution in the meantime while we wait for the long term solution to be effective? I agree 100% with putting measures in place to prevent the wrong people from getting guns. Tighter screening processes, better access to mental healthcare, etc. Shit that I have already laid out ITT. But NONE of that, while it is absolutely necessary and should be sought after, is immediately effective. So what is the short term safeguard? The ability of defense, that's what. in my proposal, you and your guns would be grandfathered in. you'd still have ammo to defend yourself in case of an attack. but like I alluded to, i believe most crimes are committed with guns that were recently purchased. I wouldn't worry about the grandfathered in guns being used to kill you. <cite>gbpxl posted [p:897875576] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote>I never said that it magically erases them, but it would greatly reduce the amount of innocent people that are randomly shot to death and eventually when people run out of ammo and they can't buy anymore, we'll just have to worry about mass stabbings, which are a hell of a lot easier to deal with. I live close to St. Cloud, MN where the Somali went on his jihad quest with a knife. no one died. much rather deal with that.</quote> Great. Until then we can bury the corpses of every innocent defenseless person killed by an armed criminal in your back yard.</quote> This is kind of a silly argument because there is literally no solution other than wiping out the entire human race that will stop innocents from being shot overnight. No matter what action or inaction is taken, it's going to be an "Eventually" before things get worse or better. It's a lazy rebuttal and a weird thing to express that you won't accept a solution that isn't instant. You might as well not accept any treatment for disease or illness that doesn't cure you overnight</quote> Nope. Both short and long-term measures need to be taken. Banning guns does absolutely nothing in the short term, so what is the solution in the meantime while we wait for the long term solution to be effective? I agree 100% with putting measures in place to prevent the wrong people from getting guns. Tighter screening processes, better access to mental healthcare, etc. Shit that I have already laid out ITT. But NONE of that, while it is absolutely necessary and should be sought after, is immediately effective. So what is the short term safeguard? The ability of defense, that's what.</quote> in my proposal, you and your guns would be grandfathered in. you'd still have ammo to defend yourself in case of an attack. but like I alluded to, i believe most crimes are committed with guns that were recently purchased. I wouldn't worry about the grandfathered in guns being used to kill you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 03/15/18 6:52:04 PM #47:	gbpxl posted... In the last 3 high profile mass shootings, the guns were bought legally, and they passed background checks. Uh, the Parkland shooter only passed his background check because the Florida police dropped the ball. If the law were actually followed, there's no way he could have gotten his gun legally. "Our gun laws aren't being enforced. What should we do?" "Pass more gun laws that also won't be enforced, duh." --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:897875589] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote>In the last 3 high profile mass shootings, the guns were bought legally, and they passed background checks.</quote> Uh, the Parkland shooter only passed his background check because the Florida police dropped the ball. If the law were actually followed, there's no way he could have gotten his gun legally. "Our gun laws aren't being enforced. What should we do?" "Pass more gun laws that also won't be enforced, duh."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 03/15/18 6:52:08 PM #48:	gbpxl posted... Bad guys get guns the same way good guys do. They buy them from the store. Yes and many others aren't bought legally. So if you can't say this as a catch-all while still pretending to be intellectually honest. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:897875593] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote> Bad guys get guns the same way good guys do. They buy them from the store.</quote> Yes and many others aren't bought legally. So if you can't say this as a catch-all while still pretending to be intellectually honest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/15/18 6:54:00 PM #49:	_RETS_ posted... Both short and long-term measures need to be taken. There is no "Short term" solution to America's gun problem. That's why it still has a gun problem after all these years, because people like you are reactionary and want an instant response when something horrible happens, not an actual plan for the future. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:897875720] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote> Both short and long-term measures need to be taken.</quote> There is no "Short term" solution to America's gun problem. That's why it still has a gun problem after all these years, because people like you are reactionary and want an instant response when something horrible happens, not an actual plan for the future.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 03/15/18 6:55:06 PM #50:	gbpxl posted... _RETS_ posted... What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it? Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun. Want to know who else loved a ban on guns? Hitler, Stalin, and Mao --- https://i.imgur.com/akpEP6p.gif https://i.imgur.com/hVRNKNs.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:897875786] in Repeal the... [t:76419273]...</cite> <quote><cite>gbpxl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote>What does your vision of repealing it include? What would replace it with? How would you change it?</quote> Replace it with nothing. There's no legitimate reason to own a gun.</quote> Want to know who else loved a ban on guns? Hitler, Stalin, and Mao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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