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creativerealms 03/15/18 7:48:00 PM #101: |
Howl posted...
Remember when liberals were all like "no one wants to ban guns, slippery slope fallacy etc..." Now they're just outright saying repeal the 2nd Ammendment openly. As a liberal I can tell you that's a lie. Many of us are gun owners. --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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psvitantifail 03/15/18 7:49:49 PM #102: |
_RETS_ posted...
psvitantifail posted..._RETS_ posted...Junkratprime03 posted...I wonder what would you have to say if you seen how many black people love guns. Just because we primarily Democrat don't mean we disagree with the right to bear arms lolThe alt-right won't compromise on anything, and neither should the left. We have the power in this country, we should force them to come to the table when they get tired of taking the Ls No I was referring to the guy comparing gun owners to alright... --- America will never fall to liberals or communist invasion! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gbpxl 03/15/18 7:56:04 PM #103: |
Dark_Spiret posted...
its quite something to see so many actively trying to take away their own rights. Yeah funny, same group of people who criticize them is the same that want to take away the right to abortions as well. (I'm pro-life by the way) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_RETS_ 03/15/18 7:56:39 PM #104: |
psvitantifail posted...
_RETS_ posted...psvitantifail posted..._RETS_ posted...Junkratprime03 posted...I wonder what would you have to say if you seen how many black people love guns. Just because we primarily Democrat don't mean we disagree with the right to bear arms lolThe alt-right won't compromise on anything, and neither should the left. We have the power in this country, we should force them to come to the table when they get tired of taking the Ls Got ya, was confused about my post being quoted with the one you were replying to ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Spiret 03/15/18 8:01:52 PM #105: |
gbpxl posted...
Yeah funny, same group of people who criticize them is the same that want to take away the right to abortions as well.i dont see abortion on the bill of rights. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gbpxl 03/15/18 8:07:02 PM #106: |
Dark_Spiret posted...
gbpxl posted...Yeah funny, same group of people who criticize them is the same that want to take away the right to abortions as well.i dont see abortion on the bill of rights. why do you view the bill of rights as infallible? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 03/15/18 9:39:18 PM #107: |
creativerealms posted...
Howl posted...Remember when liberals were all like "no one wants to ban guns, slippery slope fallacy etc..." Now they're just outright saying repeal the 2nd Ammendment openly. How is that a lie? It's literally the topic title. Lol --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Syntheticon 03/15/18 10:29:00 PM #108: |
KainWind posted...
We should make killing people illegal too while we're at it. I like your thinking but it'll never catch on-there's too many guns around for it to really ever work. --- Mod me? You don't even know me! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 03/15/18 10:29:57 PM #109: |
Howl posted...
creativerealms posted...Howl posted...Remember when liberals were all like "no one wants to ban guns, slippery slope fallacy etc..." Now they're just outright saying repeal the 2nd Ammendment openly. I forgot that a single topic on gamefaqs represents an entire group of people. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Iodine 03/15/18 11:18:11 PM #110: |
Allowing LEOs to be the only people who can legally possess guns would be rather disastrous.
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Offworlder1 03/15/18 11:36:01 PM #111: |
You literally need to go to Canada if you don't like how the USA is topic creator, no guns there so you should be happy.
Don't try to ruin this country cause you have zero respect for people having the right to defend themselves, and their loved ones. @gbpxl --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 03/16/18 12:21:16 AM #112: |
Tmaster148 posted...
Howl posted...creativerealms posted... There's multiple people in this topic defending that notion, and as the poll results show there isn't just a single person who voted yes. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gbpxl 03/16/18 2:17:08 PM #113: |
this country is already being ruined by people like you who think guns are the only weapons one can use to defend himself. Ever hear of boxing? Karate? Knives? Crossbows? Mace? Baseball bat?
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ToonLinkWithGun 03/16/18 2:20:23 PM #114: |
gbpxl posted...
this country is already being ruined by people like you who think guns are the only weapons one can use to defend himself. Ever hear of boxing? Karate? Knives? Crossbows? Mace? Baseball bat? Y u mad --- HA! HYAH! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_RETS_ 03/16/18 2:22:31 PM #115: |
gbpxl posted...
this country is already being ruined by people like you who think guns are the only weapons one can use to defend himself. Ever hear of boxing? Karate? Knives? Crossbows? Mace? Baseball bat? If a guy with a gun was going to come into your bedroom tomorrow, would you rather have a gun or one of the above means of self defense? If you answer anything other than "a gun" then you are openly admitting to being either a troll or a stupid ass and either way you lose. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gbpxl 03/16/18 2:24:30 PM #116: |
im not mad. Im making a point that one doesnt need a tool that causes instant death in order to be safe
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_RETS_ 03/16/18 2:26:24 PM #117: |
gbpxl posted...
im not mad. Im making a point that one doesnt need a tool that causes instant death in order to be safe answer my question ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gbpxl 03/16/18 2:27:10 PM #118: |
would rather it be where he wasnt able to buy the gun to begin with
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DragonGirlYuki 03/16/18 2:30:58 PM #119: |
@Offworlder1 posted...
You literally need to go to Canada if you don't like how the USA is topic creator, no guns there so you should be happy. Canada has guns you know. --- ~Yuki~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_RETS_ 03/16/18 2:32:56 PM #120: |
gbpxl posted...
would rather it be where he wasnt able to buy the gun to begin with That isn't the question you unbelievable hack. Since you know that bad guys DO currently have guns, if one came into your room tonight would you rather have a gun to defend yourself or any of the shit you mentioned? It is a very straight forward question with TWO possible answers, not a third answer to a question no one asked. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Musourenka 03/16/18 2:36:10 PM #121: |
No. A well-regulated militia shall not be infringed.
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muchdran 03/16/18 2:38:55 PM #122: |
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gbpxl posted...sktgamer_13dude posted...No. Should put more money towards mental health, better background checks, and classes to teach safe gun keeping. --- If liberals didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have standards at all. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 03/16/18 2:39:19 PM #123: |
_RETS_ posted...
People who dismiss potential solutions with the argument of "That would not be instant! In the meantime innocents will die!" Which is true of every single solution. It's a nonsense counter --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_RETS_ 03/16/18 2:40:03 PM #124: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
_RETS_ posted... Bruh.... did you even read the rest of that post that you're cutting off? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 03/16/18 2:40:48 PM #125: |
_RETS_ posted...
Yes --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 03/16/18 2:41:21 PM #126: |
Good luck with that.
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_RETS_ 03/16/18 2:43:17 PM #127: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
_RETS_ posted... Then you are really dropping the ball on reading comprehension. I am not dismissing any potential solutions at all (other than a gun ban). "There are no short term solutions. Any truly effective solution is going to be a long and multi-faceted process. There are, however, short term measures that can be taken to limit casualties in the meantime while long term solutions are being developed and given a chance to take hold." Long term solutions should absolutely be pursued, but because they cannot be immediately effective (again, this doesn't mean they should be ignored/abandoned), short-term measures are necessary to protect people in the meantime. I really can't see how you're not getting this... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 03/16/18 2:47:33 PM #128: |
Youre going to have more luck having the Supreme Court overturning Heller v D.C. and defining the right to bear arms in a more diminished capacity than legislatively repealing any Amendment.
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UnfairRepresent 03/16/18 3:00:14 PM #129: |
_RETS_ posted...
I am not dismissing any potential solutions at all (other than a gun ban). When the issue is gun violence going "I dont oppose anything except bans and non instant solutions" is opposing close to everything --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_RETS_ 03/16/18 3:03:27 PM #130: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
_RETS_ posted...I am not dismissing any potential solutions at all (other than a gun ban). @UnfairRepresent Where do you keep getting this idea that I oppose non-instant solutions? Really what the fuck are you talking about? Are you trolling? I fully support long term solutions. I have said over and over and fucking over that I do. Greatly improved mental healthcare, reformed processes by which people obtain guns, reinstallation of family values and community involvement, addressing school bullying, creating greater transparency between all authoritative bodies that have to approve the ownership of a gun for an individual, etc. I support all those things, all of which are non-instant solutions. So really, what the fuck are you even talking about? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 03/16/18 3:13:21 PM #131: |
Those are all vague non-statements.
give detailed examples of what any of them actually entails --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_RETS_ 03/16/18 3:21:49 PM #132: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Those are all vague non-statements. Greatly improved mental healthcare De-stigmatizing mental illness. Opening more mental institutions and allowing for involuntary admittance in certain circumstances. Increasing general funding for mental healthcare and more psychological screening prior to gun purchase. Gun Acquisition The psychological screening falls into this category as well, but a lot of it is also acting on red flags and temporary seizure of weapons in cases of obvious threat as seen in Parkland. Family values/community involvement This is a cultural issue that leads to a lot of things, not just gun violence. It is far too complex to detail how this is fixed, but to suggest it isn't a problem is dishonest. Bullying Remove zero tolerance policies and other such things that allow schools to not ever actually have to do anything about bullying issues. This also ties into family values and community involvement. If YOUR solution is repeal the second amendment, then that is untenable and you're stupid for supporting it. If that isn't your solution, then addressing any or all of the above is a good way to fixing the problem in the long run. I may even be unclear on what exactly your idea for a solution is? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gbpxl 03/16/18 5:10:33 PM #133: |
_RETS_ posted...
gbpxl posted...would rather it be where he wasnt able to buy the gun to begin with Obviously I would rather have a gun, but what I was getting at was that if they outlawed the sale of guns entirely, it'd be almost impossible to acquire a gun unless you stole it from a police officer or a soldier. And in that case, someone is breaking into my house, I'm either going to leave my house, if possible, or use a baseball bat. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 03/16/18 5:10:55 PM #134: |
gonna be a no from me dawg
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_RETS_ 03/16/18 5:17:48 PM #135: |
gbpxl posted...
_RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted...would rather it be where he wasnt able to buy the gun to begin with There you go. So you answered your own question as to why they can be necessary in a world where guns are not, in fact, non-existent. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gbpxl 03/16/18 5:19:54 PM #136: |
_RETS_ posted...
gbpxl posted..._RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted...would rather it be where he wasnt able to buy the gun to begin with So make them non-existent (for civilian use) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_RETS_ 03/16/18 5:24:22 PM #137: |
gbpxl posted...
_RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted..._RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted...would rather it be where he wasnt able to buy the gun to begin with Great, get on that, in the meantime, people have a right to adequately defend themselves How does it work for countries where the government has the sole possession on firearms? What's the historical precedent look like for a defenseless population? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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moose_knuckle 03/16/18 5:35:48 PM #138: |
gbpxl posted...
_RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted..._RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted...would rather it be where he wasnt able to buy the gun to begin with Yes, usher in the tyrannical one world government that enforces austerity and eugenics on the population until you ultimately decide to upload (suicide) yourself into the collective. Mao, Hitler, and Stalin agree, gun control works. And let's not forget how successful the war on drugs has been. Strangely enough all the leftists want everything legalized on that side of the coin. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gbpxl 03/16/18 6:11:19 PM #139: |
_RETS_ posted...
gbpxl posted..._RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted..._RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted...would rather it be where he wasnt able to buy the gun to begin with How does it work for those countries? Australia seems to be doing alright. They stopped having mass shootings after they restricted gun ownership in 1996, must be a coincidence. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gbpxl 03/16/18 6:12:25 PM #140: |
moose_knuckle posted...
gbpxl posted...We already have gun control. To suggest gun control is wrong, that would imply you are completely fine with removing any and all background checks, age restrictions, access to all military weapons._RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted..._RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted...would rather it be where he wasnt able to buy the gun to begin with ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_RETS_ 03/16/18 6:22:49 PM #141: |
gbpxl posted...
_RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted..._RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted..._RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted...would rather it be where he wasnt able to buy the gun to begin with Australia doesn't have a disarmed populace. In fact their mandatory buyback (i.e. ban?) didn't even remove most of their guns. By the way, how's their violent crime trend looking compared to ours over the last several years? How has it worked for all of the countries with a disarmed populace? Please go on and answer with an actual answer, not another question. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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moose_knuckle 03/16/18 6:36:58 PM #142: |
gbpxl posted...
moose_knuckle posted...gbpxl posted...We already have gun control. To suggest gun control is wrong, that would imply you are completely fine with removing any and all background checks, age restrictions, access to all military weapons._RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted..._RETS_ posted...gbpxl posted...would rather it be where he wasnt able to buy the gun to begin with You want an outright ban, not gun control. You're also trolling so --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 03/16/18 6:37:31 PM #143: |
yes pls
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gbpxl 03/16/18 7:20:33 PM #144: |
If you're referring to Nazi Germany, obviously not very well, but our leaders aren't Nazis. and even if they were, the Army would/could decimate you and your gun toting pals with ease. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gbpxl 03/16/18 7:27:38 PM #146: |
AssultTank posted...
gbpxl posted...Actually in the Iraq War, they had a kill ratio of 20:1the Army would/could decimate you and your gun toting pals with ease. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_RETS_ 03/16/18 7:28:14 PM #147: |
gbpxl posted...
I'm referring to the majority of countries with a disarmed populace. How is that going? I don't care for guns and don't own any and if I do it will be for protection in my home, so stop making a stupid ass of yourself. But an armed populace is an incredible deterrent against government tyranny. You are dishonest to think otherwise and naive/stupid to want to give sole control of arms to ANY government. Even if the armed populace would get beaten by the military (just like we dominated the Vietnamese........), it is a better to have a population that can defend itself, even against losing odds, than one that is defenseless. You cannot, with any intellectual honesty, contest that. If you are locked in a room and a 400lb slab of muscle is coming in to murder you, you would rather be able to adequately defend yourself than not, even if you end up dead either way. I don't have to even phrase that as a question, because unless you're an idiot I already answered it for you. If you are the 400lb slab of muscle, you will be much more hesitant to go into that same room if you knew your target had the ability to defend itself than if it was defenseless. There really isn't much more discussion to be had with you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sativa_Rose 03/16/18 7:28:54 PM #148: |
Reminder: Cliven Bundy used the Second Amendment to secure his grazing rights from the Feds, and he won.
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_RETS_ 03/16/18 7:29:02 PM #149: |
gbpxl posted...
AssultTank posted...gbpxl posted...Actually in the Iraq War, they had a kill ratio of 20:1the Army would/could decimate you and your gun toting pals with ease. How many civilians do we have vs. soldiers? Assuming every soldier would be willing to kill US citizens? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sativa_Rose 03/16/18 7:30:50 PM #150: |
_RETS_ posted...
Assuming every soldier would be willing to kill US citizens? That would be a really dumb thing to assume. It would also be really dumb to assume the US military would just carpet bomb its own citizens, which would be even less restraint than was used in Iraq --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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