Poll of the Day > Which iron man movie did you like the best?

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My thoughts on this are iron man 1 easily. I don't think it was one of my favorite movies but still pretty good and better than the abomination that was IM 3 imo. IM 2 i put somewhere between 1 and 3 but prob closer to 3.
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3. it had the best action and super powers

1 is interesting but the main fight is like 5 minutes long and pretty boring.

2. most of the movie is just Tony being drunk or argueing and working on fixing his heart. the final battle lasts about 1 minute

3. there is alot of good fights and a good rescue scene in the sky. a dumb twist about a red herring villain. but not enough to ruin the movie.

Zikten posted...

a dumb twist about a red herring villain

There was another twist?
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Nichtcrawler X posted...

Zikten posted...

a dumb twist about a red herring villain

There was another twist?

in the comics, the Mandarin is the most important villain for Iron Man's past. in the classic days, Mandarin fought Tony often and is his Joker. he has magical powers and wears 10 rings, one on each finger, each ring has a different power. he is literally a wizard or sorcerer. in the movie he is just a terrorist leader who ends up just being a british actor. they revealed the real Mandarin does exist in a short film later. but most people never saw it, and they may never address it again. so it might as well not be canon.

So same twist then. Except I voted 3 because of that twist. Was 1 of the few genuine (good) surprises in the MCU so far. Although I must admit, I also liked the idea of "All Hail the King".
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1 is one of my single favorite movies of all-time.

I hold in it in a similar regard to Machete, the Lethal Weapon series, and the first Avenger movie.
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Zikten posted...

in the comics, the Mandarin is the most important villain for Iron Man's past.

"Most important" is vastly overstating it. Yes, he tends to be one of the more frequent recurring villains (or at least he was, originally), but Tony's had way more significant and important villains throughout the years, a number of whom impacted his life far more than the Mandarin ever did.

That's why Stane was actually a fairly good choice for the villain of the first movie - in the comics he arguably had more of an impact on Tony's life than any other villain Tony has ever fought.

The real downer is that they turned Justin Hammer into little more than a throwaway joke in the movies, when the idea of an amoral industrialist who gives super high-tech power suits to criminals and is directly trying to undermine Stark International's business underhandedly has a ton of potential. For most of the 80s and early 90s, Hammer was probably Tony's most significant enemy.



Zikten posted...

he has magical powers and wears 10 rings, one on each finger, each ring has a different power. he is literally a wizard or sorcerer.

Not really. He's just an ordinary dude who discovered a crashed spaceship, and looted it. The power-source of the ship was basically a collection of 10 ring-shaped objects, and he stole them and wore them as actual rings.

Technically speaking, there's nothing magic about him, as much as his abilities represent alien technology.

Fighting technology with technology is one of the underlying themes of Iron Man - it's why like 90% of his enemies are tech-based.

Speaking of themes, though, you have to keep in mind that the main reason why the Mandarin was a villain in the first place was because the entire point of Iron Man is basically a metaphor for capitalism. Which is why so many of his early enemies represented the "Red Menace" in some way - whether it be the Mandarin as a caricature of China or enemies like the Crimson Dynamo or Titanium Man (or the Black Widow, for that matter) being agents of the KGB out to destroy him and everything he represents. In the 70s and 80s, though, the cultural attitude towards rampant Western-style capitalism had changed somewhat, which is why his older enemies started to fade away, while his newer enemies wound up being capitalists themselves - and thus, the theme sort of shifted from "Capitalism versus Not-Capitalism" to a more nuanced "Positive Aspects of Capitalism versus Negative Aspects of Capitalism". Even the Mandarin stopped being a weirdo wearing Imperial-era robes and reinvented himself as a Chinese businessman in a sharp suit.

In order for Iron Man to work in 2000/2010/etc, one of the first things you really have to do is look at how people see capitalism as a whole, and understand that Tony is essentially supposed to represent the best elements of it while his enemies will be defined by the worst elements. Thus, Tony winds up being a moralist who refuses to sell weapons to terrorists and who actively works to redeem himself and protect the world, while his enemies are mostly amoral businessmen willing to lie, cheat, steal, or even kill to get ahead.

Like it or not, Mandarin as ancient Chinese warlord with magic space rings really wouldn't work in the movies of the modern cultural era.


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Spiderman Homecoming.

pls u might as well ask me whether i like getting poked in the eye or in my ears
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I might be the only one in the world to like Iron Man 2 the most. The villain is way better than either 1 or 3 (1's villain is almost non existent, and 3's is an absolute joke)

Also I think 1 is incredibly overrated overall, and 3 was a mess
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Obviously 1 was the best.

The plot of 2 was stupid.

The plot of 3 was less stupid than 2 but the villain's motivation outside of revenge against Tony didn't make any sense.

Why has subtlety had its day because of Thor? He never explains how that stops making people with influence or successful businesses not continue to have influence or be successful, or how his villain plot benefits him over just running a normal business.
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FrozenBananas posted...

I might be the only one in the world to like Iron Man 2 the most. The villain is way better than either 1 or 3 (1's villain is almost non existent, and 3's is an absolute joke)

Also I think 1 is incredibly overrated overall, and 3 was a mess

I agree 2 is the best one
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I guess the first one.
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Mead posted...

FrozenBananas posted...

I might be the only one in the world to like Iron Man 2 the most. The villain is way better than either 1 or 3 (1's villain is almost non existent, and 3's is an absolute joke)

Also I think 1 is incredibly overrated overall, and 3 was a mess

I agree 2 is the best one

I also agree w/ 2 being my favorite (but it only has 2 votes...?).
1 was great but very plodding. 3 was just a godawful plot and I did *not* enjoy the plot twist.
2 doesn't have the greatest plot, but it's not as bad as 3's, and is just a fun movie w/ a good mix of humor and action. And yeah, easily the best villain of the three movies. The hapless rival was also highly entertaining.

Also the race track scene near the beginning of 2 was amazing
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the first one, it just had a plain better script. the other two were relying too much on the established characters.

Zikten posted...

in the comics, the Mandarin is the most important villain for Iron Man's past. in the classic days, Mandarin fought Tony often and is his Joker. he has magical powers and wears 10 rings, one on each finger, each ring has a different power. he is literally a wizard or sorcerer. in the movie he is just a terrorist leader who ends up just being a british actor. they revealed the real Mandarin does exist in a short film later. but most people never saw it, and they may never address it again. so it might as well not be canon.

imagine how infuriating that would be if they did that with the Joker, or Lex Luthor? I feel sorry for anyone who was an Iron Man fan before the movies.
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sadly the movies are meant for non comic readers. comic readers only make up about 5% of the people in the world who watch these movies. Marvel doesn't care about angering them. 95% of the people who watched Iron Man 3 didn't even know why the twist was so annoying. and just accepted it

Comic book movies do not need to 100% accurately adapts comics.
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Nichtcrawler X posted...

Comic book movies do not need to 100% accurately adapts comics.

they should at least adapt it about 75% though. Iron Man 3 twist was a like 10% adaptation

Sahuagin posted...

I feel sorry for anyone who was an Iron Man fan before the movies.

I was an Iron Man fan before the movies, and I quite enjoyed the movies.

It was absolutely perfect casting for Tony Stark, for one thing.


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Only seen 1 & 2. Of those, 1 is the better film -- although the action sequences are kinda so-so since it was an early MCU.
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