Poll of the Day > Are there non-legendary gen 1 pokemon better than Mewtwo?

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BigOlePappy 03/20/18 11:43:46 PM #1:	Dragonite? --- "Oh, you think lag is your ally. You merely adopted lag. I was born in it, molded by it. I didnt have cable until I was already a man." <cite>BigOlePappy posted [p:898193342] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote>Dragonite?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 03/20/18 11:46:49 PM #2:	No. Mewtwo was the undisputed king of Gen 1. The runner-up was Tauros. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:898193461] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote>No. Mewtwo was the undisputed king of Gen 1. The runner-up was Tauros.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 03/21/18 12:17:51 AM #3:	Charizard --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:898194834] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote>Charizard</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 03/21/18 12:21:56 AM #4:	Depends if you are playing DURING Gen 1 or not, as the rules were different back then --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:898195014] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote>Depends if you are playing DURING Gen 1 or not, as the rules were different back then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mario_VS_DK 03/21/18 1:20:20 AM #5:	Define better. There were cooler Pokemon, but Mewtwo was the strongest. --- How often do people read this? <cite>Mario_VS_DK posted [p:898197285] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote>Define better. There were cooler Pokemon, but Mewtwo was the strongest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bear 03/21/18 2:30:40 AM #6:	alakazam or tauros --- founder, but not the leader of the helly squad <cite>Bear posted [p:898199359] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote>alakazam or tauros</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Golden Road 03/21/18 2:34:22 AM #7:	Eevee and (at least some of) its Eeveelutions will forever be the best Pokmon. --- Who's your favorite character from "Bend It Like Beckham"? And you can't say Beckham. <cite>Golden Road posted [p:898199460] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote>Eevee and (at least some of) its Eeveelutions will forever be the best Pokmon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WHATZITUYA 03/21/18 2:42:57 AM #8:	He was intentionally made to be the most powerful poke back then. Amnesia was something scary in the colorless gameboy days, especially when the only the mon garunteed to outrun him was Electrode. He was arguably more broken than Mega RayRay until gen 2. I guess the only gen 1 pokemon that can really manhadle him gen 2 onward would be Mew, that is, until Mega Stones reared their ugly heads... But Mew is legendary/mythical, so your answer is still a resounding "No". --- FC: 0319 - 0902 - 1874 IGN: Apollo <cite>WHATZITUYA posted [p:898199696] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote>He was intentionally made to be the most powerful poke back then. Amnesia was something scary in the colorless gameboy days, especially when the only the mon garunteed to outrun him was Electrode. He was arguably more broken than Mega RayRay until gen 2. I guess the only gen 1 pokemon that can really manhadle him gen 2 onward would be Mew, that is, until Mega Stones reared their ugly heads... But Mew is legendary/mythical, so your answer is still a resounding "No".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bear 03/21/18 2:44:13 AM #9:	tauros literally shits on mewtwo, tf are you babbling about --- founder, but not the leader of the helly squad <cite>Bear posted [p:898199740] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote>tauros literally shits on mewtwo, tf are you babbling about</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 03/21/18 2:53:50 AM #10:	Bear posted... tauros literally shits on mewtwo, tf are you babbling about Not really. Even without Amnesia, Mewtwo can KO Tauros with 2 non-critical Psychics and Mewtwo has the speed advantage. For Tauros to win, he'd have to paralyze on his first Body Slam and then crit on a Hyperbeam afterward. Or, conversely, if Mewtwo didn't KO off 2 psychics (meaning it'd hit the lower end of the damage, wouldn't hit the 10% special lowering effect, and wouldn't critical), he'd have to paralyze on a second Body Slam then Hyper Beam the next turn (or just hope that he could hit a critical Hyperbeam on his second turn). Tauros might win 1/5 vs Mewtwo. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:898199947] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bear posted...</cite> <quote>tauros literally shits on mewtwo, tf are you babbling about</quote> Not really. Even without Amnesia, Mewtwo can KO Tauros with 2 non-critical Psychics and Mewtwo has the speed advantage. For Tauros to win, he'd have to paralyze on his first Body Slam and then crit on a Hyperbeam afterward. Or, conversely, if Mewtwo didn't KO off 2 psychics (meaning it'd hit the lower end of the damage, wouldn't hit the 10% special lowering effect, and wouldn't critical), he'd have to paralyze on a second Body Slam then Hyper Beam the next turn (or just hope that he could hit a critical Hyperbeam on his second turn). Tauros might win 1/5 vs Mewtwo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WHATZITUYA 03/21/18 3:10:42 AM #11:	Bear posted... tauros literally shits on mewtwo, tf are you babbling about Bear posted... alakazam or tauros --- FC: 0319 - 0902 - 1874 IGN: Apollo <cite>WHATZITUYA posted [p:898200293] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bear posted...</cite> <quote>tauros literally shits on mewtwo, tf are you babbling about</quote> <cite>Bear posted...</cite> <quote>alakazam or tauros</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bear 03/21/18 3:30:19 AM #12:	great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument --- founder, but not the leader of the helly squad <cite>Bear posted [p:898200709] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote>great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 03/21/18 3:50:08 AM #13:	Bear posted... great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument Does he really need to spell out that Alakazam is just a poor man's Mewtwo? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:898201104] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bear posted...</cite> <quote>great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument</quote> Does he really need to spell out that Alakazam is just a poor man's Mewtwo?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nade Duck 03/21/18 3:53:15 AM #14:	Zeus posted... Bear posted... great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument Does he really need to spell out that Alakazam is just a poor man's Mewtwo? which is still p good --- http://i.imgur.com/ElACjJD.gifv <cite>Nade Duck posted [p:898201165] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bear posted...</cite> <quote>great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument</quote> Does he really need to spell out that Alakazam is just a poor man's Mewtwo?</quote> which is still p good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WHATZITUYA 03/21/18 4:05:49 AM #15:	Bear posted... great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument Alakazam is the same as Mewtwo in that it's a sweeping Psychic type, but it has all around inferior stats, and an even more inferior movepool. There's no debate on whose the superior poke aside from aesthetic preferance. Tauros? I think Zeus provide an effective in-depth explination as to why Tauros is likely to lose most 1on1s against Mewtwo. Tauros over depending on the RNG and losing more than 3/4 of the time is not "**ing on Mewtwo". He'd have more luck Horndrilling him, and that still wouldn't take him to 50/50 let alone edge out over him. --- FC: 0319 - 0902 - 1874 IGN: Apollo <cite>WHATZITUYA posted [p:898201414] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bear posted...</cite> <quote>great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument</quote> Alakazam is the same as Mewtwo in that it's a sweeping Psychic type, but it has all around inferior stats, and an even more inferior movepool. There's no debate on whose the superior poke aside from aesthetic preferance. Tauros? I think Zeus provide an effective in-depth explination as to why Tauros is likely to lose most 1on1s against Mewtwo. Tauros over depending on the RNG and losing more than 3/4 of the time is not "**ing on Mewtwo". He'd have more luck Horndrilling him, and that still wouldn't take him to 50/50 let alone edge out over him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 03/21/18 4:11:05 AM #16:	Nade Duck posted... Zeus posted... Bear posted... great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument Does he really need to spell out that Alakazam is just a poor man's Mewtwo? which is still p good Sure, but the question is, "Are there any non-legendary gen 1 Pokemon better than Mewtwo?", and Alakazam is strictly worse than Mewtwo since he serves the same role but with weaker stats. And, given Alakazam's stats, Tauros would likely win most matches against him (mostly because Alakazam is less likely to 2hko and Tauros can easily 2hko) whereas Tauros would lose most of the time vs Mewtwo. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:898201511] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bear posted...</cite> <quote>great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument</quote> Does he really need to spell out that Alakazam is just a poor man's Mewtwo?</quote> which is still p good</quote> Sure, but the question is, "Are there any non-legendary gen 1 Pokemon better than Mewtwo?", and Alakazam is strictly worse than Mewtwo since he serves the same role but with weaker stats. And, given Alakazam's stats, Tauros would likely win most matches against him (mostly because Alakazam is less likely to 2hko and Tauros can easily 2hko) whereas Tauros would lose most of the time vs Mewtwo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 03/21/18 4:15:21 AM #17:	WHATZITUYA posted... Tauros? I think Zeus provide an effective in-depth explination as to why Tauros is likely to lose most 1on1s against Mewtwo. Tauros over depending on the RNG and losing more than 3/4 of the time is not "**ing on Mewtwo". He'd have more luck Horndrilling him, and that still wouldn't take him to 50/50 let alone edge out over him. Horn Drill wouldn't work at all. Under gen 1 mechanics, you needed to have higher speed than your target and Mewtwo is faster than Tauros. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:898201587] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote><cite>WHATZITUYA posted...</cite> <quote>Tauros? I think Zeus provide an effective in-depth explination as to why Tauros is likely to lose most 1on1s against Mewtwo. Tauros over depending on the RNG and losing more than 3/4 of the time is not "**ing on Mewtwo". He'd have more luck Horndrilling him, and that still wouldn't take him to 50/50 let alone edge out over him.</quote> Horn Drill wouldn't work at all. Under gen 1 mechanics, you needed to have higher speed than your target and Mewtwo is faster than Tauros.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WHATZITUYA 03/21/18 4:17:38 AM #18:	Nade Duck posted... Zeus posted... Bear posted... great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument Does he really need to spell out that Alakazam is just a poor man's Mewtwo? which is still p good Alakazam (or "Fu-Manchu" as I like to nickname him) has always been one of my favorites pokes. @Zeus Whoops, I was typing that up as you posted it. Thanks. --- FC: 0319 - 0902 - 1874 IGN: Apollo <cite>WHATZITUYA posted [p:898201628] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bear posted...</cite> <quote>great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument</quote> Does he really need to spell out that Alakazam is just a poor man's Mewtwo?</quote> which is still p good</quote> Alakazam (or "Fu-Manchu" as I like to nickname him) has always been one of my favorites pokes. @Zeus Whoops, I was typing that up as you posted it. Thanks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WHATZITUYA 03/21/18 4:28:35 AM #19:	Zeus posted... WHATZITUYA posted... Tauros? I think Zeus provide an effective in-depth explination as to why Tauros is likely to lose most 1on1s against Mewtwo. Tauros over depending on the RNG and losing more than 3/4 of the time is not "**ing on Mewtwo". He'd have more luck Horndrilling him, and that still wouldn't take him to 50/50 let alone edge out over him. Horn Drill wouldn't work at all. Under gen 1 mechanics, you needed to have higher speed than your target and Mewtwo is faster than Tauros. I forgot about that, silly me. This kinda makes me wanna go replace those dead internal watch batteries. --- FC: 0319 - 0902 - 1874 IGN: Apollo <cite>WHATZITUYA posted [p:898201815] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WHATZITUYA posted...</cite> <quote>Tauros? I think Zeus provide an effective in-depth explination as to why Tauros is likely to lose most 1on1s against Mewtwo. Tauros over depending on the RNG and losing more than 3/4 of the time is not "**ing on Mewtwo". He'd have more luck Horndrilling him, and that still wouldn't take him to 50/50 let alone edge out over him.</quote> Horn Drill wouldn't work at all. Under gen 1 mechanics, you needed to have higher speed than your target and Mewtwo is faster than Tauros.</quote> I forgot about that, silly me. This kinda makes me wanna go replace those dead internal watch batteries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GRTooCool 03/21/18 4:32:33 AM #20:	Yep. Squirtle. --- If you make an intelligent post, people tend to ignore it because they only respond to stupid. Don't believe me? Just look at most of the chained replies. <cite>GRTooCool posted [p:898201883] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote>Yep. Squirtle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bear 03/21/18 10:05:08 PM #21:	WHATZITUYA posted... Bear posted... great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument Alakazam is the same as Mewtwo in that it's a sweeping Psychic type, but it has all around inferior stats, and an even more inferior movepool. There's no debate on whose the superior poke aside from aesthetic preferance. Tauros? I think Zeus provide an effective in-depth explination as to why Tauros is likely to lose most 1on1s against Mewtwo. Tauros over depending on the RNG and losing more than 3/4 of the time is not "**ing on Mewtwo". He'd have more luck Horndrilling him, and that still wouldn't take him to 50/50 let alone edge out over him. nope. and it's zeus, your first lesson here is to just ignore him you woulda figured it out on your own eventually, but I saved you the time --- founder, but not the leader of the helly squad <cite>Bear posted [p:898252031] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote><cite>WHATZITUYA posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bear posted...</cite> <quote>great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument</quote> Alakazam is the same as Mewtwo in that it's a sweeping Psychic type, but it has all around inferior stats, and an even more inferior movepool. There's no debate on whose the superior poke aside from aesthetic preferance. Tauros? I think Zeus provide an effective in-depth explination as to why Tauros is likely to lose most 1on1s against Mewtwo. Tauros over depending on the RNG and losing more than 3/4 of the time is not "**ing on Mewtwo". He'd have more luck Horndrilling him, and that still wouldn't take him to 50/50 let alone edge out over him.</quote> nope. and it's zeus, your first lesson here is to just ignore him you woulda figured it out on your own eventually, but I saved you the time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 03/22/18 6:53:34 PM #22:	Bear posted... WHATZITUYA posted... Bear posted... great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument Alakazam is the same as Mewtwo in that it's a sweeping Psychic type, but it has all around inferior stats, and an even more inferior movepool. There's no debate on whose the superior poke aside from aesthetic preferance. Tauros? I think Zeus provide an effective in-depth explination as to why Tauros is likely to lose most 1on1s against Mewtwo. Tauros over depending on the RNG and losing more than 3/4 of the time is not "**ing on Mewtwo". He'd have more luck Horndrilling him, and that still wouldn't take him to 50/50 let alone edge out over him. nope. and it's zeus, your first lesson here is to just ignore him you woulda figured it out on your own eventually, but I saved you the time Overlooking Helly completely shitposting about Pokemon (yet another subject he apparently knows nothing about), there's some irony in him of all people suggesting that somebody should be ignored. Doubly so in that he has 50+ accounts just to prevent people from ignoring him. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:898306068] in Are there ... [t:76436726]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bear posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WHATZITUYA posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bear posted...</cite> <quote>great rebuttal there fella don't even know why you replied since you have no argument</quote> Alakazam is the same as Mewtwo in that it's a sweeping Psychic type, but it has all around inferior stats, and an even more inferior movepool. There's no debate on whose the superior poke aside from aesthetic preferance. Tauros? I think Zeus provide an effective in-depth explination as to why Tauros is likely to lose most 1on1s against Mewtwo. Tauros over depending on the RNG and losing more than 3/4 of the time is not "**ing on Mewtwo". He'd have more luck Horndrilling him, and that still wouldn't take him to 50/50 let alone edge out over him.</quote> nope. and it's zeus, your first lesson here is to just ignore him you woulda figured it out on your own eventually, but I saved you the time</quote> Overlooking Helly completely shitposting about Pokemon (yet another subject he apparently knows nothing about), there's some irony in him of all people suggesting that somebody should be ignored. Doubly so in that he has 50+ accounts just to prevent people from ignoring him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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