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solosnake 03/24/18 4:49:31 PM #1: |
Seems pretty obvious the issue is mental health, no?
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Blue_Dream87 03/24/18 4:51:19 PM #2: |
Republicans won't throw money at fixing that issue. It's just a deflection so people won't discuss guns or the culture we've collectively allowed to flourish.
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Offworlder1 03/24/18 4:52:43 PM #3: |
Libs only care about disarming people not the actual root of the problem, mental health, anti social people, and shut ins are the issue not guns.
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AlphaCuck 03/24/18 4:53:27 PM #4: |
Violent video games are also an issue. Is it a coincidence that the generation that grew up around violent media is the same one with violent outbursts that hurt others?
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RE_expert44 03/24/18 4:53:35 PM #5: |
Many groups don't want to hear that they have mental issues and would rather plug their ears and deflect to something else.
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CaptainCrunch 03/24/18 4:55:07 PM #6: |
Blue_Dream87 posted...
Republicans Offworlder1 posted... Libs AlphaCuck posted... Violent video games hmmmm --- Strawberry milk is superior to chocolate milk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Malcrasternus 03/24/18 5:01:19 PM #7: |
It's easier to blame objects than people.
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doomcrusader 03/24/18 5:07:58 PM #8: |
Because it's tougher to tackle mental health issues, so the better solution is to slap a band-aid on a gaping wound and add more gun control.
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A_Good_Boy 03/24/18 5:09:33 PM #9: |
Offworlder1 posted...
Libs only care about disarming people not the actual root of the problem, mental health, anti social people, and shut ins are the issue not guns. So what do you think should be done to address those issues? --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChainedRedone 03/24/18 5:10:12 PM #10: |
doomcrusader posted...
Because it's tougher to tackle mental health issues, so the better solution is to slap a band-aid on a gaping wound and add more gun control. It's really not. Fund more to mental health research or simply make it more available to people. But gasp that's socialism and conservatives don't really give a fuck about mental health either --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jayj350 03/24/18 5:14:24 PM #11: |
It is a lot easier to quickly blame some inanimate object than it is to actually address a real issue with modern day healthcare.
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ShadowNinja606 03/24/18 5:15:12 PM #12: |
doomcrusader posted...
Because it's tougher to tackle mental health issues, so the better solution is to slap a band-aid on a gaping wound and add more gun control. This is the kind of thinking that really fucks everything up Maybe removing guns would stop people from shooting each other, but if we're all still so fucked in the head, so disillusioned, so generally fucked up and broken, the only way we stop killing each other is to put us all in padded rooms Like 10% of the population has personality disorders, yet we still don't even really know what fucking causes BPD, APD etc, nor are any of us really able to do anything to HELP those people. It just becomes a game of how long you can last around them before you have to bail or fucking die Take the guns away an we'll stab each other. Take the sharp shit away and we'll beat each other to death. Put us in padded rooms and we'll strangle each other. The west is fucked --- http://robocenter.forumotion.com/ <--CR site. The silence of a man waiting to die. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Annihilated 03/24/18 5:20:05 PM #13: |
Nope, better take all the rights away from mentally ill people so they have greater stigma and less incentive to seek treatment. Helping!
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billcom6 03/24/18 5:20:57 PM #14: |
It would be pretty hard for a mentally ill person to shoot someone if they couldn't buy a gun in the first place.
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HBOSS 03/24/18 5:23:36 PM #15: |
seems most folk care for immediate, reactionary laws.
truth is if we want mental health to be the focus, it's going to be an open debate on its sources that many arent ready to handle. the scope, time, and quality efforts to tackle this issue may not be attainable yet. gun control is measurable and satisfies public interest. however the problem is the follow through. I believe gun control enforcement is left to local business and local authorities. something like this impacts business. local authority is scrutinized for it's law enforcement. it's a cycle of gun laws get stricter, mass shootings, gun control debates, and it progressed to worse community tragedies. --- You don't stop playing because you grow old, You grow old because you stop playing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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r4X0r 03/24/18 5:26:17 PM #16: |
"Hurrr mentally ill people shouldn't be able to buy guns!"
OK, assuming you can throw HIPPA out the window and violate doctor patient confidentiality, if seeking mental help will flag you in a NICS check, what will happen? More people will simply forego seeking mental help and you'll end up with MORE MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE WITH GUNS. --- I faced it all and I stood tall- And did it my way. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuia 03/24/18 5:28:01 PM #17: |
Because it's a really delicate subject and everyone just wants a bandaid fix
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Antifar 03/24/18 5:28:30 PM #18: |
ShadowNinja606 posted...
Take the guns away an we'll stab each other. Take the sharp shit away and we'll beat each other to death. Put us in padded rooms and we'll strangle each other. Guns are far better at the task of killing people (particularly large numbers of people in a quick timeframe than knives or bare fists. ShadowNinja606 posted... The west is fucked In the west, only the US sees this level of violence. I'm not convinced that we have significantly higher rates of mental illness than the UK or Portugal, where the murder rates are less than a third of ours. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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r4X0r 03/24/18 5:29:45 PM #19: |
Antifar posted...
But the focus is on rifles, and way more people are murdered with knives and fists/feet than rifles, by a huge margin. --- I faced it all and I stood tall- And did it my way. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuia 03/24/18 5:39:02 PM #20: |
Guns are far better at the task of killing people (particularly large numbers of people in a quick timeframe than knives or bare fists. I would rather be ended swiftly by a bullet than die a slow painful death via stabbing tbh --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 03/24/18 5:41:20 PM #21: |
It's a sticky situation for the left. When Democrats have tried pushing legislation limiting gun sales to the mentally disabled, the ACLU and left-wing disability groups fought it under claims that it was discriminatory.
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