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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/10/18 9:17:55 AM
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Scroll down to the twitter video.
https://movieweb.com/last-jedi-continuity-error-throne-room-fight-two-knives-rey-death/

But keep telling us our criticisms are unfair.

"Yeah, suspension of disbelief requires there to be logic within a scifi fantasy world. This ruins that suspension and makes you realize this is a terrible movie, and the scene only serves to show that Rey has LITERAL plot armor."
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Guy_Fieri
04/10/18 9:20:21 AM
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TLJ was a garbage movie
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foreveraIone
04/10/18 9:20:26 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
You people need to move on with your lives

is this all you do here? take potshots at people?
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hollow_shrine
04/10/18 9:21:33 AM
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There are real structural/pacing/continuity criticisms of the TLJ. This isn't one of them.
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Doom_Art
04/10/18 9:22:39 AM
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Yeah you guys need to find a better hobby
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CyricZ
04/10/18 9:22:46 AM
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I think it's hilarious. Sure, it's a legit continuity error in the stuntwork, but it's still kinda funny.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
But keep telling us our criticisms are unfair.

Dude, you didn't even notice it until someone pointed it out. Don't act like you were aware of this all along and that it further justifies calling Holdo "Admiral Gender Studies" or some shit.
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masterpug53
04/10/18 9:51:17 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
"Yeah, suspension of disbelief requires there to be logic within a scifi fantasy world. This ruins that suspension and makes you realize this is a terrible movie, and the scene only serves to show that Rey has LITERAL plot armor."


Thank goodness this ridiculous nitpick came along to completely retroactively justify your complaining.

Not to mention this notion of babby watches Game of Thrones once and suddenly thinks plot armor should never exist in fiction again.
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CapnMuffin
04/10/18 10:01:37 AM
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Glad the Star Wars fans who absolutely hated the movie can finally buy the Blu-ray and watch it over and over again.
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Unknown5uspect
04/10/18 10:07:19 AM
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Can I get a tl;dw in here?
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Questionmarktarius
04/10/18 10:09:02 AM
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From the linked twitter post:
When you have to nitpick a scene frame by frame of a movie that came out 4 months ago because you can't move on from your petty hatred lmfao


Unknown5uspect posted...
Can I get a tl;dw in here?

https://twitter.com/TheLocalGod/status/981103133853065216/photo/1
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/10/18 10:13:07 AM
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Unknown5uspect posted...
Can I get a tl;dw in here?


Just watch the fucking video in the link.

They edit out a weapon because the dude has Rey in a position that would make it almost compulsory to stab her in the back.
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Unknown5uspect
04/10/18 10:14:16 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
They edit out a weapon because the dude has Rey in a position that would make it almost compulsory to stab her in the back.

All I needed. Thanks.
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LightHawKnight
04/10/18 10:14:34 AM
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So the dvd/bluray sales are doing that well huh?
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Questionmarktarius
04/10/18 10:15:25 AM
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Goats posted...
The movie sucked, but at the end of the day it was one bad movie.

Maybe this is all just a long con to make Holiday Special no longer the worst Star Wars, then finally release it on home video.
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KogaSteelfang
04/10/18 10:18:05 AM
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Looks like the guy did the stabbing motion and she just didn't react to it. It was probably just easier to edit it out rather than reshoot the scene. It was probably intended that she take a few non fatal shots throughout the fight.
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AlisLandale
04/10/18 10:24:33 AM
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Theres a lot to criticize about the movie, but this isnt one of them. Handwave it as he lost one of the knives in the chaos and problem solved.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/10/18 10:44:42 AM
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AlisLandale posted...
Theres a lot to criticize about the movie, but this isnt one of them. Handwave it as he lost one of the knives in the chaos and problem solved.


It's piss poor editing that makes the production company look like chumps.
And no, there's no defense for it. They should have cut the entire interaction out. And there's zero possibility that it just got lost in the chaos, watch the fucking clip, it is egregious. It's insulting.
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COVxy
04/10/18 10:47:51 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
AlisLandale posted...
Theres a lot to criticize about the movie, but this isnt one of them. Handwave it as he lost one of the knives in the chaos and problem solved.


It's piss poor editing that makes the production company look like chumps.
And no, there's no defense for it. They should have cut the entire interaction out. And there's zero possibility that it just got lost in the chaos, watch the fucking clip, it is egregious. It's insulting.


Let's be honest, you felt insulted long before you saw this, and it's likely inexplicably tied purple hair.
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gamer167
04/10/18 10:50:17 AM
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How come Rey just sort of knew how to use a lightsaber with no training?
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Questionmarktarius
04/10/18 10:51:19 AM
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gamer167 posted...
How come Rey just sort of knew how to use a lightsaber with no training?

So did Han
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hockeybub89
04/10/18 10:51:55 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
gamer167 posted...
How come Rey just sort of knew how to use a lightsaber with no training?

So did Han

So did Finn
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Questionmarktarius
04/10/18 10:53:27 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
gamer167 posted...
How come Rey just sort of knew how to use a lightsaber with no training?

So did Han

So did Finn

So did Grievous.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/10/18 10:53:33 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
gamer167 posted...
How come Rey just sort of knew how to use a lightsaber with no training?

So did Han


Pressing a button to cut open an animal is not using a light saber and more than using using a katana to cut a watermelon in half is knowing how to use a katana.
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Butterfiles
04/10/18 10:55:14 AM
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Goats posted...
The movie sucked, but at the end of the day it was one bad movie.

in a series that has had quite a few
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ASithLord7
04/10/18 10:56:50 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
AlisLandale posted...
Theres a lot to criticize about the movie, but this isnt one of them. Handwave it as he lost one of the knives in the chaos and problem solved.


It's piss poor editing that makes the production company look like chumps.
And no, there's no defense for it. They should have cut the entire interaction out. And there's zero possibility that it just got lost in the chaos, watch the fucking clip, it is egregious. It's insulting.

So you admit it was poor editing and not some hurp durp rey is a mary sue nonsense?
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Doom_Art
04/10/18 10:56:55 AM
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gamer167 posted...
How come Rey just sort of knew how to use a lightsaber with no training?

It's not particularly complex to use in a basic way

Like, for basic stabbing and blocking if you have a basic knowledge of melee combat you can make use of it
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Muffinz0rz
04/10/18 10:57:21 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
https://twitter.com/TheLocalGod/status/981103133853065216/photo/1

so, rey was originally supposed to get stabbed?
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Questionmarktarius
04/10/18 10:59:05 AM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
https://twitter.com/TheLocalGod/status/981103133853065216/photo/1

so, rey was originally supposed to get stabbed?

Plausible, then the "no sell" led to a hasty edit.
Just look at how awkwardly the dude's arm just sorta floats out there.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/10/18 11:03:42 AM
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ASithLord7 posted...
So you admit it was poor editing and not some hurp durp rey is a mary sue nonsense?


It's poor editing independent of Rey factually being a Mary Sue. I don't think Rey "in-universe" has a magical aura of weapon-be-gone. That's ridiculous. That said, shanking the piss out of her would have gone a long way to addressing that issue. A deus ex machina on her bleeding out body would help her case more than a fucking eraser.

But it's poor editing that provides an aesthetic to the Mary Sue criticism. Again though, cut that entire interaction out, I can't imagine there isn't a better way to cut it.
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Giant_Aspirin
04/10/18 11:06:13 AM
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i love shitting on these new "Star Wars" movies for justified reasons, like the continuity between VI and VII is shit, or how Rey is way too gifted/powerful, or how Leia wasn't done justice or a bunch of other reasons. this is not one of them.
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spanky1
04/10/18 11:22:40 AM
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That honestly is a pretty bad choreography mistake. But that's all it is.
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Romulox28
04/10/18 11:24:58 AM
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spanky1 posted...
That honestly is a pretty bad choreography mistake. But that's all it is.

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AlisLandale
04/10/18 11:26:26 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
AlisLandale posted...
Theres a lot to criticize about the movie, but this isnt one of them. Handwave it as he lost one of the knives in the chaos and problem solved.


It's piss poor editing that makes the production company look like chumps.
And no, there's no defense for it. They should have cut the entire interaction out. And there's zero possibility that it just got lost in the chaos, watch the fucking clip, it is egregious. It's insulting.


Bruh. I think TLJ is a dumpster fire and dont even think this is worth caring about in the grand scheme of things.

Its like cocomplaining an actor changed pants inbetween cuts. Its stupid, but far from a gaping plot hole that destroys the story's narrative.

I came in here expecting to have missed some important piece of TFA lore that explained Rey couldnt have survived. Not that some editor messed up a knife count. >_>
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alphagamble
04/10/18 11:26:37 AM
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Rey should have gotten fucked up by the bodyguards
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action52
04/10/18 11:29:34 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
AlisLandale posted...
Theres a lot to criticize about the movie, but this isnt one of them. Handwave it as he lost one of the knives in the chaos and problem solved.


It's piss poor editing that makes the production company look like chumps.
And no, there's no defense for it. They should have cut the entire interaction out. And there's zero possibility that it just got lost in the chaos, watch the fucking clip, it is egregious. It's insulting.

It's so egregious that no one noticed it until they could buy the blu-ray and analyze it frame by frame.
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Zero_Destroyer
04/10/18 11:30:48 AM
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So your argument is that an error in editing (a frequent occurrence in movies) is evidence Rey is a Mary Sue? Wtf?

The reason it was edited it was almost certainly because it was a missed flub in choreography that they fixed in post-production. Mediocre movies having bad editing isn't some massive revelation.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/10/18 11:33:25 AM
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action52 posted...
It's so egregious that no one noticed it until they could buy the blu-ray and analyze it frame by frame.


It's difficult to point out a missing glow stick when you're watching Jason Bourne at a rave.

It's not like you guys have been sympathetic to the "feelings" critique. Something felt off about that whole scene but is there a chance it hell you'd have accepted that as a criticism? No. Not until it was possible to dissect it could the point be made.
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MacadamianNut3
04/10/18 11:34:51 AM
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This is why you don't associate with Star Wars fans irl
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CyricZ
04/10/18 11:38:51 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Something felt off about that whole scene but is there a chance it hell you'd have accepted that as a criticism? No. Not until it was possible to dissect it could the point be made.

Oh puh-lease. Don't even pretend you could detect this. You've not nearly proven yourself talented enough at film analysis for us to buy that line.

You want more credit, then stop trying to conflate a filming error with your hate-boner.
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s0nicfan
04/10/18 11:42:26 AM
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foreveraIone posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
You people need to move on with your lives

is this all you do here? take potshots at people?


99% of monkey's posts involve going into a topic, making fun of one or both sides, and then never contributing to the actual discussion.
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hockeybub89
04/10/18 11:42:50 AM
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Let's think about this for a second. Wouldn't it be easier to just not put Rey in that situation if this was part of the nefarious plot to make her a Mary Sue, rather than a bad edit for some reason?
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Zero_Destroyer
04/10/18 8:21:40 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Let's think about this for a second. Wouldn't it be easier to just not put Rey in that situation if this was part of the nefarious plot to make her a Mary Sue, rather than a bad edit for some reason?


Well, yeah. What would actually have happened is the brief scene where she got cut would've been cut since that's an actual injury as a result of the fight and this made her weaker.

People have a terrible understanding of what a "Mary Sue" is. The case to make one is so hugely circumstantial and hefty and it's based way less in what directly happens to the characters or what their abilities are and has more to do with how they interact with the world that they inhabit in terms of themes or consequences as a result of what they do.

That's because the term originated from fanfiction material and fanfiction self-inserts (which have a lot of overlap) tend to follow a pattern of narcissism on the part of the author. A good example from the ST is probably Rey fixing a broken aspect of the Falcon easily, for instance, when its long-term pilot couldn't. Overpowered abilities are usually an extension of this, but there's typically groundwork that lays the case out for a character being a Mary Sue external to their abilities.

No-selling a stab might be an element (depending on the context of the scene) but that's clearly not the intention of the director because no reference to it ever comes up and the OP's best attempt to sell that idea is from an extremely hard-to-catch two second blip.
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DrizztLink
04/10/18 8:23:27 PM
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This is just the stupidest, most petty shit.

It's why people make fun of neckbeards.
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giantblimpN7
04/10/18 8:23:54 PM
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You know most people would not like the thing and move on, not continue frothing at the mouth and yelling on the Internet about how they don't like the thing for half a year.
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Zero_Destroyer
04/10/18 8:29:31 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...

So did Grievous.


grevious was trained by dooku to be fair
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masterpug53
04/10/18 8:40:23 PM
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At this moment I can't think of a more stereotypical member of the toxic fanbase than TC.
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ViewtifulGrave
04/10/18 8:41:45 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
So did Grievous.

???

Grievous was specifically trained by Count Dooku.
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