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Awesker002
04/12/18 7:03:34 AM
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Vyrulisse
04/12/18 7:04:46 AM
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JordanPeterson
04/12/18 7:04:50 AM
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I had no idea he was part of it all this time. Tbh, I never liked that Nostalgia Critic guy. He just seemed douchey.
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Southernfatman
04/12/18 7:06:12 AM
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Never knew why he stayed there anyway. He outgrew the site years ago.
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wah_wah_wah
04/12/18 7:15:10 AM
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I had no idea he was part of it all this time. Tbh, I never liked that Nostalgia Critic guy. He just seemed douchey.

I'd more phrase it as, "he is a huge dork"... but he can be very insightful about film. I learned a lot from him. But he moved away from being a critic into being a sketch comedy guy, which he is terrible at. Last time I tried watching a NC video, half of it was promotion for some awful app where your reactions to trailers are recorded.

But I guess according to the document that they released, he's kind of an asshole behind the scenes.
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mario2000
04/12/18 10:29:17 AM
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http://channelawesome.com/our-response/

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04/12/18 10:30:14 AM
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Ushiromiya
04/12/18 10:30:47 AM
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Solar_Crimson
04/12/18 10:52:31 AM
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mario2000 posted...
http://channelawesome.com/our-response/

yikes

WTF
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WilliamPorygon
04/12/18 10:52:52 AM
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At this point they should just oust anyone who isn't Doug Walker and his crew and change the site name back to ThatGuyWithTheGlasses, since that's clearly all they give a shit about anyway and quite frankly, douchebag or not Doug can get by on his own.
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Blue_Inigo
04/12/18 10:54:17 AM
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Thats gonna hurt em
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Muffinz0rz
04/12/18 10:54:28 AM
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ok what the fuck is channel awesome and why do people suddenly keep posting about it

EDIT:

mandatory sensitivity training

LOOL this is the most common thing in accusations of sexual misconduct and harassment, etc.

Sad!
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KILBOTz
04/12/18 10:56:24 AM
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So they are expecting me to believe 15 or so people conspired together to tell a series of lies and that they are blameless in all of this? seems like a rather tone deaf response.
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Funkydog
04/12/18 11:02:28 AM
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I'll be honest, I don't really know who any of these people are.

Should I care about this bit of internet drama for any reason?
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KILBOTz
04/12/18 11:06:22 AM
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Funkydog posted...
Should I care about this bit of internet drama for any reason?


no. i only remotely care because it used to be a good site years ago but has been shit for a long time so the contributor stories helped understand why it turned to shit and channel awesome couldn't keep anyone.
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KillerKhan420
04/12/18 11:08:10 AM
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Screw everybody on that site.
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yusiko
04/12/18 11:08:29 AM
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@mario2000 posted...
http://channelawesome.com/our-response/

yikes


here is allison pregler whose story about getting kicked off the site was well known for years side of the story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CY7cutLmyA" data-time="


and that link you posted does line up with what she says that the people in charge never take responsibility they always try to blame someone else
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NibeIungsnarf
04/12/18 11:10:27 AM
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Does he get points for seeing all this shit go down and then taking weeks to decide what would be most beneficial for him to do?
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hollow_shrine
04/12/18 11:15:20 AM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
ok what the fuck is channel awesome and why do people suddenly keep posting about it

EDIT:

mandatory sensitivity training

LOOL this is the most common thing in accusations of sexual misconduct and harassment, etc.

Sad!

These are the grossly oversimplified cliff notes. I would not surprise me if some of my recollections from the earlier days are wrong, it's been ten years. The more recent tea is still readily accessible on social media and getting YT attention within the community. So I feel like I'm on much sturdier ground there.

CA is a video reviewers collective that tried to creative an infrastructure to monetize their content in the early days of YT circa 07 or 08. It sounds kind of grassroots, and like a fun enterprise between friends, but it was actually a bit of corporation. The Nostalgia Critic, The guy with the glasses, Linkara, Lindsay Ellis, Angry Joe and several other YT personalities started their channels or have had recognizable connections to Channel Awesome. They've been losing content creators since 2014 with notable people cutting ties from 2015.

Then last month there was another handful of content creators cutting ties with CA, followed by a huge 60+ page tell all of collected complaints and stories ranging from workplace toxicity, shitty management, exploitation, emotional abuse, harassment, etc started making the rounds on twitter, to which the heads of Channel Awesome issued a pretty weak not-apology essentially saying they were sorry some people felt bad. Cue even more content creators jumping ship. And then a couple days ago they posted another not-apology to their homepage accusing the more vocal critics recorded in the initial tell-all of mendaciously whipping up drama to hurt the channel. Cue Angry Joe leaving.
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Heineken14
04/12/18 11:22:18 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Does he get points for seeing all this shit go down and then taking weeks to decide what would be most beneficial for him to do?


Just like his videos, it was stretched out way longer than it should have been! Heeeeyoooooo

Yeah, I have no real clue wtf is going on here, but I've seen that guys videos and they're trash. 30+ minute reviews with a bunch of unfunny skits in there.
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creativerealms
04/12/18 11:27:33 AM
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Is Brad Jones still there? He and Angry Joe were the only big names left.
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Slayerblade11
04/12/18 11:38:42 AM
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yusiko posted...
@mario2000 posted...
http://channelawesome.com/our-response/

yikes


here is allison pregler whose story about getting kicked off the site was well known for years side of the story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CY7cutLmyA" data-time="


and that link you posted does line up with what she says that the people in charge never take responsibility they always try to blame someone else


She was barely 30k subs and now shes 36k. Looks like shes getting some exposure
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Webmaster4531
04/12/18 11:46:18 AM
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Slayerblade11 posted...
yusiko posted...
@mario2000 posted...
http://channelawesome.com/our-response/

yikes


here is allison pregler whose story about getting kicked off the site was well known for years side of the story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CY7cutLmyA" data-time="


and that link you posted does line up with what she says that the people in charge never take responsibility they always try to blame someone else


She was barely 30k subs and now shes 36k. Looks like shes getting some exposure

So?
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yusiko
04/12/18 2:31:15 PM
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i still think nostalgia critic is hot
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Blue_Inigo
04/12/18 2:31:43 PM
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yusiko posted...
i still think nostalgia critic is hot

Even though he's bald?
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yusiko
04/12/18 2:32:42 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
yusiko posted...
i still think nostalgia critic is hot

Even though he's bald?


yep
he kind of looks like my old high school history teacher which in turn brings up schoolboy fantasies about an extra long hard detention
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LordFarquad1312
04/12/18 3:13:43 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Does he get points for seeing all this shit go down and then taking weeks to decide what would be most beneficial for him to do?


Just like his videos, it was stretched out way longer than it should have been! Heeeeyoooooo

Yeah, I have no real clue wtf is going on here, but I've seen that guys videos and they're trash. 30+ minute reviews with a bunch of unfunny skits in there.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Channel Awesome is done.
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creativerealms
04/12/18 3:19:29 PM
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Goats posted...
yusiko posted...
@mario2000 posted...
http://channelawesome.com/our-response/

yikes


here is allison pregler whose story about getting kicked off the site was well known for years side of the story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CY7cutLmyA" data-time="


and that link you posted does line up with what she says that the people in charge never take responsibility they always try to blame someone else


Based on the content and maturity of their responses I'm going to have to say I believe her side of the story a lot more than his.

When she and Phelous left their complaints were ignored as just two angry ex employees. Now though her story feels a lot more authentic.
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Prestoff
04/12/18 3:25:53 PM
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Most of the complaints seems to be on their CEO Mike Michaud, who everyone seems to describe as incompetent person who only plays video games all day. Looks like he only got the position as CEO because no one else wanted to it at the time and the reason they can't fire him because Mike owns the exclusive rights to the Nostalgia Critic. Somehow he managed to convince them to sign it over to them, so if they kick him out the Nostalgia critic brand goes away (where they get the majority of their ad revenue and sponsorships from).
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EverDownward
04/12/18 3:28:42 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Most of the complaints seems to be on their CEO Mike Michaud, who everyone seems to describe as incompetent person who only plays video games all day. Looks like he only got the position as CEO because no one else wanted to it at the time and the reason they can't fire him because Mike owns the exclusive rights to the Nostalgia Critic. Somehow he managed to convince them to sign it over to them, so if they kick him out the Nostalgia critic brand goes away (where they get the majority of their ad revenue and sponsorships from).

He effectively found a way to leach onto the network without having to do any real work, while insuring that booting him would undoubtedly kill the site. So is he really incompetent?
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yusiko
04/12/18 3:56:43 PM
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i miss the nostalgia chick
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legendarylemur
04/12/18 3:57:38 PM
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FACT From the beginning of the site, anyone that has been added as a content partner was informed that ChannelAwesome.com was an aggregator for their content. At no time did Channel Awesome take a cut of their videos, as the practice is with Multi Channel Networks (MCNs). We never wanted to be an MCN and only asked them to schedule their videos that they already were doing for Blip.tv and YouTube.
We gave them access to over 30 million page views and over a million unique viewers a month at our height. Channel Awesome viewed the partnership as a way to help content partners grow their audience while bringing in new content and increasing the community within the site.

Further benefiting content partners, Channel Awesome covered all costs associated with server, hosting and labor costs associated with maintenance and updates. Some content partners even had their servers for their own sites paid for by Channel Awesome. None of these costs were ever passed along to our content partners.

I think this part is the only really agreeable part of the whole thing. They were actually not obligated to pay anybody I think lol, unless they signed contracts which sound like there weren't much contract signing in general going on
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KILBOTz
04/12/18 4:32:27 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Most of the complaints seems to be on their CEO Mike Michaud, who everyone seems to describe as incompetent person who only plays video games all day. Looks like he only got the position as CEO because no one else wanted to it at the time and the reason they can't fire him because Mike owns the exclusive rights to the Nostalgia Critic. Somehow he managed to convince them to sign it over to them, so if they kick him out the Nostalgia critic brand goes away (where they get the majority of their ad revenue and sponsorships from).


Way I was reading it is Channel Awesome owns the nostalgia critic character so doug couldn't leave and use the character elsewhere, not that Michaud personally owns the character.
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wah_wah_wah
04/12/18 4:42:34 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
mario2000 posted...
http://channelawesome.com/our-response/

yikes

WTF

lol yeah that's the worst response I've ever seen
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Cotton_Eye_Joe
04/12/18 4:45:58 PM
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I didn't know he was still there.
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Webmaster4531
04/12/18 4:48:55 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
I think this part is the only really agreeable part of the whole thing. They were actually not obligated to pay anybody I think lol, unless they signed contracts which sound like there weren't much contract signing in general going on

They were embedded videos. It's the same cost Gamefaqs pays when you post a youtube link.
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yusiko
04/12/18 5:08:08 PM
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the only channel awesome video i watch these days are tamara's never seen
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legendarylemur
04/12/18 5:10:51 PM
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I dunno Tamara's Never Seen was entertaining in the beginning, and then Tamara went like full sjw mode on this one video where she poked holes in her fucking wall. That made me go wtf and couldn't take the rest of her vids seriously
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yusiko
04/12/18 5:12:31 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
I dunno Tamara's Never Seen was entertaining in the beginning, and then Tamara went like full sjw mode on this one video where she poked holes in her fucking wall. That made me go wtf and couldn't take the rest of her vids seriously


its SJW to be against pointless rape scenes in movies now?
thats a good example of why i hate the term

even the original creator of evil dead has said the tree rape scene was something he regretted
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legendarylemur
04/12/18 5:14:45 PM
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yusiko posted...
legendarylemur posted...
I dunno Tamara's Never Seen was entertaining in the beginning, and then Tamara went like full sjw mode on this one video where she poked holes in her fucking wall. That made me go wtf and couldn't take the rest of her vids seriously


its SJW to be against pointless rape scenes in movies now?
thats a good example of why i hate the term

even the original creator of evil dead has said the tree rape scene was something he regretted

Rape scenes are bad, but that was a tree in an over the top horror movie. The context is different, like how it resulted in her becoming some evil demonic thing. To me, I viewed it akin to a zombie biting a person. There's unwilling penetration of the flesh and by the end of it, either you're dead or a zombie
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NibeIungsnarf
04/12/18 5:15:30 PM
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I love the tree rape scene.

Really speaks to me as an individual.
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creativerealms
04/12/18 5:16:29 PM
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It's SJW to say anything an ASJW does not like.
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Webmaster4531
04/12/18 5:17:58 PM
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yusiko posted...
legendarylemur posted...
I dunno Tamara's Never Seen was entertaining in the beginning, and then Tamara went like full sjw mode on this one video where she poked holes in her fucking wall. That made me go wtf and couldn't take the rest of her vids seriously


its SJW to be against pointless rape scenes in movies now?
thats a good example of why i hate the term

even the original creator of evil dead has said the tree rape scene was something he regretted

The movie is literally called "The Evil Dead". I don't know, didn't controversy help it get known?
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yusiko
04/12/18 5:20:08 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
The movie is literally called evil dead. I don't know, didn't controversy help it get known?


naw the sequels are better known
most people i know have never even seen the first one but everyone has seen the second and third ones

the third one has a pointless rape scene but it isnt as blatant and doesnt piss people off the same way the tree one does.

the trees in the second one just kill people
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legendarylemur
04/12/18 5:20:57 PM
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Also, Tamara penetrated the wall with her marker (?). Isn't that rape because the marker penetrated the wall?
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Webmaster4531
04/12/18 5:23:49 PM
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yusiko posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
The movie is literally called evil dead. I don't know, didn't controversy help it get known?


naw the sequels are better known
most people i know have never even seen the first one but everyone has seen the second and third ones

the third one has a pointless rape scene but it isnt as blatant and doesnt piss people off the same way the tree one does.

the trees in the second one just kill people

The first one is an indie that made enough money to fund the sequels. I just remember hearing the controversy helped.
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Dabrikishaw15
04/12/18 5:46:43 PM
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I actually didn't know he was a member of them until a few seconds ago, so good on him for finally leaving.
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Bad_Mojo
04/12/18 5:50:24 PM
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UnfairRepresent
04/12/18 5:53:57 PM
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I knew he was connected to them because he sometimes does like charity events with them and he and Nostaglia Critic cross over sometimes

I think Joe became president and blew up Canada in the Critic It's a Wonderful Life Parody
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