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Kid_Buu 04/12/18 8:05:08 AM #1:	fucked up --- anime girls either need a dick or thicc for me to want to have relations with them im kaname btw <cite>Kid_Buu posted [p:899516569] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>fucked up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JordanPeterson 04/12/18 8:06:10 AM #2:	microwaves popcorn --- https://i.imgur.com/MhZjeyp.jpg https://youtu.be/PESYQ6TGwhQ https://youtu.be/eyC_NKEz62A https://youtu.be/sCq3K2O8htw <cite>JordanPeterson posted [p:899516597] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>microwaves popcorn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 04/12/18 8:07:43 AM #3:	Yes. That's what chain gangs and the like are. --- http://i.imgur.com/23CCcZB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/32mwCo1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oqklqKC.jpg <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:899516643] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>Yes. That's what chain gangs and the like are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 04/12/18 8:22:09 AM #4:	http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-prison-labor-slavery-20171026-story.html --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:899517075] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-prison-labor-slavery-20171026-story.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 04/12/18 8:34:38 AM #5:	Depends on what you mean by "legal". It's constitutional. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:899517495] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>Depends on what you mean by "legal". It's constitutional.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KiwiTerraRizing 04/12/18 8:35:12 AM #6:	Yes --- Jake Peralta: World's Grossest Pervert <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:899517514] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>Yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 04/12/18 8:36:21 AM #7:	yep. shit's fucked --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:899517551] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>yep. shit's fucked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Omega Hunter 04/12/18 8:37:21 AM #8:	Yes they can force you to work for free, so thats pretty much slavery. --- Living is naturally hell, you have to work to put a smile on. http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/7_ugmpjq.gif <cite>Omega Hunter posted [p:899517581] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>Yes they can force you to work for free, so thats pretty much slavery.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deupd_u 04/12/18 8:40:19 AM #9:	frozenshock posted... http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-prison-labor-slavery-20171026-story.html That "article" is literally 247 words --- Snipers don't shoot at paper, they shoot watermelons. http://i.imgur.com/jo511lG.jpg <cite>deupd_u posted [p:899517656] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-prison-labor-slavery-20171026-story.html</quote> That "article" is literally 247 words</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 04/12/18 8:45:04 AM #10:	Whoever told you that is probably referring to prison time. Which I don't know a lot about but I'm guessing they can't beat inmates to death for laziness. Not legally, at least. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:899517815] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>Whoever told you that is probably referring to prison time. Which I don't know a lot about but I'm guessing they can't beat inmates to death for laziness. Not legally, at least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmeralDragon23 04/12/18 8:46:42 AM #11:	DevsBro posted... Whoever told you that is probably referring to prison time. Which I don't know a lot about but I'm guessing they can't beat inmates to death for laziness. Not legally, at least. They're referring to the 13th amendment Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Which, of course, leads to prisoners working 'for free' while they're in prison. --- El Psy Congroo 3DS FC: 3952-7469-6840 <cite>EmeralDragon23 posted [p:899517867] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>Whoever told you that is probably referring to prison time. Which I don't know a lot about but I'm guessing they can't beat inmates to death for laziness. Not legally, at least.</quote> They're referring to the 13th amendment Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Which, of course, leads to prisoners working 'for free' while they're in prison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/12/18 8:46:45 AM #12:	Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:899517870] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mistere Man 04/12/18 8:48:17 AM #13:	I am probably wrong but I had heard they are payed for the work, not a lot just a small amount. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. <cite>Mistere Man posted [p:899517932] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>I am probably wrong but I had heard they are payed for the work, not a lot just a small amount.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
polopili 04/12/18 8:49:45 AM #14:	Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? If the justice system makes money from prisonners, it becomes a profiteable business and it's goal is no longer justice but profits. <cite>polopili posted [p:899517976] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> If the justice system makes money from prisonners, it becomes a profiteable business and it's goal is no longer justice but profits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/12/18 8:51:35 AM #15:	polopili posted... Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? If the justice system makes money from prisonners, it becomes a profiteable business and it's goal is no longer justice but profits. thats a solid argument to make all prisons government owned rather than privately owned. but not to ban slavery of prisoners --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:899518050] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>polopili posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> If the justice system makes money from prisonners, it becomes a profiteable business and it's goal is no longer justice but profits.</quote> thats a solid argument to make all prisons government owned rather than privately owned. but not to ban slavery of prisoners</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 04/12/18 8:52:10 AM #16:	Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? In idea, it's fine. Work off your debt to society. In practice, it's not as benevolent. Read above poser. --- I tried to think of something clever to put here. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:899518067] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> In idea, it's fine. Work off your debt to society. In practice, it's not as benevolent. Read above poser.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kid_Buu 04/12/18 8:52:40 AM #17:	Rika_Furude posted... polopili posted... Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? If the justice system makes money from prisonners, it becomes a profiteable business and it's goal is no longer justice but profits. thats a solid argument to make all prisons government owned rather than privately owned. but not to ban slavery of prisoners itp: governments don't want money --- anime girls either need a dick or thicc for me to want to have relations with them im kaname btw <cite>Kid_Buu posted [p:899518091] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>polopili posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> If the justice system makes money from prisonners, it becomes a profiteable business and it's goal is no longer justice but profits.</quote> thats a solid argument to make all prisons government owned rather than privately owned. but not to ban slavery of prisoners</quote> itp: governments don't want money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 04/12/18 8:52:40 AM #18:	Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? The same reason slavery of anyone isn't ok. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:899518092] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> The same reason slavery of anyone isn't ok.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 04/12/18 8:53:44 AM #19:	Prisoners are slaves, so yes. --- http://i.imgur.com/OlAyuQb.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KnLuqux.jpg <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:899518124] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>Prisoners are slaves, so yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 04/12/18 8:55:35 AM #20:	Im fairly certain that there is no forced labor anymore. The labor that is performed is voluntary and theyre paid either through commissary or good time, which basically turns one work day into an additional day off their sentence. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:899518170] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>Im fairly certain that there is no forced labor anymore. The labor that is performed is voluntary and theyre paid either through commissary or good time, which basically turns one work day into an additional day off their sentence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/12/18 8:55:48 AM #21:	JE19426 posted... Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? The same reason slavery of anyone isn't ok. because criminals deserve to live a free life in society? --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:899518175] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> The same reason slavery of anyone isn't ok.</quote> because criminals deserve to live a free life in society?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/12/18 8:56:53 AM #22:	Kid_Buu posted... Rika_Furude posted... polopili posted... Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? If the justice system makes money from prisonners, it becomes a profiteable business and it's goal is no longer justice but profits. thats a solid argument to make all prisons government owned rather than privately owned. but not to ban slavery of prisoners itp: governments don't want money i think its good if the criminals are paying back their debt to society rather than a private company --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:899518212] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kid_Buu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>polopili posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> If the justice system makes money from prisonners, it becomes a profiteable business and it's goal is no longer justice but profits.</quote> thats a solid argument to make all prisons government owned rather than privately owned. but not to ban slavery of prisoners</quote> itp: governments don't want money</quote> i think its good if the criminals are paying back their debt to society rather than a private company</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 04/12/18 8:57:23 AM #23:	Rika_Furude posted... because criminals deserve to live a free life in society? Is that the only reason slavery is wrong? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:899518229] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>because criminals deserve to live a free life in society? </quote> Is that the only reason slavery is wrong?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/12/18 9:08:16 AM #24:	JE19426 posted... Rika_Furude posted... because criminals deserve to live a free life in society? Is that the only reason slavery is wrong? because criminals shouldn't be discriminated against and have done nothing wrong? --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:899518617] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>because criminals deserve to live a free life in society? </quote> Is that the only reason slavery is wrong?</quote> because criminals shouldn't be discriminated against and have done nothing wrong?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 04/12/18 9:09:49 AM #25:	Rika_Furude posted... because criminals shouldn't be discriminated against and have done nothing wrong? Is that the only other reason slavery is wrong? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:899518680] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>because criminals shouldn't be discriminated against and have done nothing wrong? </quote> Is that the only other reason slavery is wrong?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 04/14/18 4:53:23 AM #27:	Literally arguing with Rika in the year of our lord 2018. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:899631961] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>Literally arguing with Rika in the year of our lord 2018.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PMarth2002 04/14/18 4:55:33 AM #28:	polopili posted... Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? If the justice system makes money from prisonners, it becomes a profiteable business and it's goal is no longer justice but profits. ... you do know that a lot of prisons in the states are for profit, right? --- And as her clothes all tumbled 'round her, I could hear my heart The moonlight shown upon her as she lay back in my bed <cite>PMarth2002 posted [p:899631999] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>polopili posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> If the justice system makes money from prisonners, it becomes a profiteable business and it's goal is no longer justice but profits.</quote> ... you do know that a lot of prisons in the states are for profit, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheoryzC 04/14/18 5:01:55 AM #29:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V66F3WU2CKk" data-time=" --- This is where my sigs suppose to be. <cite>TheoryzC posted [p:899632102] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V66F3WU2CKk" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 04/14/18 5:02:48 AM #30:	PMarth2002 posted... polopili posted... Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? If the justice system makes money from prisonners, it becomes a profiteable business and it's goal is no longer justice but profits. ... you do know that a lot of prisons in the states are for profit, right? We also have the highest prison population. Idk man, is he wrong or are Americans just inherently more law breaking than the populations of other countries? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:899632115] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>PMarth2002 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>polopili posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? </quote> If the justice system makes money from prisonners, it becomes a profiteable business and it's goal is no longer justice but profits.</quote> ... you do know that a lot of prisons in the states are for profit, right?</quote> We also have the highest prison population. Idk man, is he wrong or are Americans just inherently more law breaking than the populations of other countries?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/14/18 5:04:03 AM #31:	Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? It opens the way for exploitation and insinuates that all crimes are equal. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:899632138] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> It opens the way for exploitation and insinuates that all crimes are equal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/14/18 5:06:14 AM #32:	Dash_Harber posted... Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? It opens the way for exploitation and insinuates that all crimes are equal. its not like they get longer sentences. and idc if a prisoner is exploited to pay back their debt to society --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:899632171] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> It opens the way for exploitation and insinuates that all crimes are equal.</quote> its not like they get longer sentences. and idc if a prisoner is exploited to pay back their debt to society</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ninjarobot_22 04/14/18 5:06:23 AM #33:	This reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Jerry and George come up with the idea for a show where the main character didn't have enough money to pay back the money he owes to someone else, so the judge sentenced him to become the man's butler. Then in a later episode it really happened to George. <cite>ninjarobot_22 posted [p:899632173] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>This reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Jerry and George come up with the idea for a show where the main character didn't have enough money to pay back the money he owes to someone else, so the judge sentenced him to become the man's butler. Then in a later episode it really happened to George.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/14/18 5:07:59 AM #34:	Rika_Furude posted... Dash_Harber posted... Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? It opens the way for exploitation and insinuates that all crimes are equal. its not like they get longer sentences. and idc if a prisoner is exploited to pay back their debt to society The problem is that it incentivizes the government to imprison more people and that it punishes all criminals equally when crime and punishment is anything but. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:899632200] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> It opens the way for exploitation and insinuates that all crimes are equal.</quote> its not like they get longer sentences. and idc if a prisoner is exploited to pay back their debt to society</quote> The problem is that it incentivizes the government to imprison more people and that it punishes all criminals equally when crime and punishment is anything but.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/14/18 5:11:20 AM #35:	The 13th amendment doesn't actually establish any punishments for involuntary servitude. Yet, you can be enslaved for being a criminal. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:899632243] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>The 13th amendment doesn't actually establish any punishments for involuntary servitude. Yet, you can be enslaved for being a criminal. <quote>Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 04/14/18 5:13:01 AM #36:	Questionmarktarius posted... The 13th amendment doesn't actually establish any punishments for involuntary servitude. as far as i understand, this i think it just means that if states wanted to, it wouldn't be unconstitutional lo and behold, we basically have legal slavery with the prison industrial complex sooooo --- http://i.imgur.com/kpXTakw.gif http://i.imgur.com/Pto3yPa.jpg http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:899632260] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>The 13th amendment doesn't actually establish any punishments for involuntary servitude.</quote> as far as i understand, this i think it just means that if states wanted to, it wouldn't be unconstitutional lo and behold, we basically have legal slavery with the prison industrial complex sooooo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/14/18 5:15:00 AM #37:	YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... lo and behold, we basically have legal slavery with the prison industrial complex sooooo "except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted" <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:899632299] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote>lo and behold, we basically have legal slavery with the prison industrial complex sooooo</quote> "except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/14/18 5:16:30 AM #38:	Dash_Harber posted... Rika_Furude posted... Dash_Harber posted... Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? It opens the way for exploitation and insinuates that all crimes are equal. its not like they get longer sentences. and idc if a prisoner is exploited to pay back their debt to society The problem is that it incentivizes the government to imprison more people and that it punishes all criminals equally when crime and punishment is anything but. not necessarily. do you think they are currently punished the same? even if we implement forced labor, there are still these differences: 1) security level/comfort of the prison (i.e. low security, max security) 2) sentence length 3) the work itself they would be doing. i.e. a thief could do data entry, while a rapist would be doing manual labor or something at the moment, private for-profit prisons are far more incentivized to receive prisoners than the government ever would be --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:899632332] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> It opens the way for exploitation and insinuates that all crimes are equal.</quote> its not like they get longer sentences. and idc if a prisoner is exploited to pay back their debt to society</quote> The problem is that it incentivizes the government to imprison more people and that it punishes all criminals equally when crime and punishment is anything but.</quote> not necessarily. do you think they are currently punished the same? even if we implement forced labor, there are still these differences: 1) security level/comfort of the prison (i.e. low security, max security) 2) sentence length 3) the work itself they would be doing. i.e. a thief could do data entry, while a rapist would be doing manual labor or something at the moment, private for-profit prisons are far more incentivized to receive prisoners than the government ever would be</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 04/14/18 5:18:36 AM #39:	Unpaid internships are legal slavery. --- https://i.imgur.com/2FgO73L.png <cite>Chicken posted [p:899632364] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>Unpaid internships are legal slavery.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/14/18 5:19:12 AM #40:	Chicken posted... Unpaid internships are legal slavery. It's voluntary, thus not slavery. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:899632378] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Chicken posted...</cite> <quote>Unpaid internships are legal slavery.</quote> It's voluntary, thus not slavery.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 04/14/18 5:20:12 AM #41:	Questionmarktarius posted... Chicken posted... Unpaid internships are legal slavery. It's voluntary, thus not slavery. Voluntary in the sense that you can choose to do it or give up on your chosen career path, yes. --- https://i.imgur.com/2FgO73L.png <cite>Chicken posted [p:899632395] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Chicken posted...</cite> <quote>Unpaid internships are legal slavery.</quote> It's voluntary, thus not slavery.</quote> Voluntary in the sense that you can choose to do it or give up on your chosen career path, yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 04/14/18 5:22:37 AM #42:	Chicken posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Chicken posted... Unpaid internships are legal slavery. It's voluntary, thus not slavery. Voluntary in the sense that you can choose to do it or give up on your chosen career path, yes. nobody is forcing you to choose a career path that you cannot handle --- http://i.imgur.com/kpXTakw.gif http://i.imgur.com/Pto3yPa.jpg http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:899632437] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Chicken posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Chicken posted...</cite> <quote>Unpaid internships are legal slavery.</quote> It's voluntary, thus not slavery.</quote> Voluntary in the sense that you can choose to do it or give up on your chosen career path, yes.</quote> nobody is forcing you to choose a career path that you cannot handle</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 04/14/18 5:25:15 AM #43:	YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... Chicken posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Chicken posted... Unpaid internships are legal slavery. It's voluntary, thus not slavery. Voluntary in the sense that you can choose to do it or give up on your chosen career path, yes. nobody is forcing you to choose a career path that you cannot handle Its not about being able to handle it, its about people being used for unpaid labour. --- https://i.imgur.com/2FgO73L.png <cite>Chicken posted [p:899632478] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Chicken posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Chicken posted...</cite> <quote>Unpaid internships are legal slavery.</quote> It's voluntary, thus not slavery.</quote> Voluntary in the sense that you can choose to do it or give up on your chosen career path, yes.</quote> nobody is forcing you to choose a career path that you cannot handle</quote> Its not about being able to handle it, its about people being used for unpaid labour.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 04/14/18 5:27:44 AM #44:	Chicken posted... Voluntary in the sense that you can choose to do it or give up on your chosen career path, yes. Wasn't there a study that showed unpaid internships were actually detrimental to career progression? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:899632528] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Chicken posted...</cite> <quote>Voluntary in the sense that you can choose to do it or give up on your chosen career path, yes.</quote> Wasn't there a study that showed unpaid internships were actually detrimental to career progression?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/14/18 5:29:42 AM #45:	Rika_Furude posted... Dash_Harber posted... Rika_Furude posted... Dash_Harber posted... Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? It opens the way for exploitation and insinuates that all crimes are equal. its not like they get longer sentences. and idc if a prisoner is exploited to pay back their debt to society The problem is that it incentivizes the government to imprison more people and that it punishes all criminals equally when crime and punishment is anything but. not necessarily. do you think they are currently punished the same? even if we implement forced labor, there are still these differences: 1) security level/comfort of the prison (i.e. low security, max security) 2) sentence length 3) the work itself they would be doing. i.e. a thief could do data entry, while a rapist would be doing manual labor or something at the moment, private for-profit prisons are far more incentivized to receive prisoners than the government ever would be Fair enough, but I still think it's a poor choice. Firstly, it creates some legal problems. Let's say someone is doing hard labor in a slave prison and breaks their back; who is going to pay for their care the rest of their life? Hell, even data entry has risks. I already don't agree with private-for-profit prisons, but you still didn't address the fact that the slave-labour system would encourage the government to convict more people instead of protecting their rights. All in all, though, people aren't property and I find it morally objectionable to build any sytem on the premise that they are. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:899632557] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> It opens the way for exploitation and insinuates that all crimes are equal.</quote> its not like they get longer sentences. and idc if a prisoner is exploited to pay back their debt to society</quote> The problem is that it incentivizes the government to imprison more people and that it punishes all criminals equally when crime and punishment is anything but.</quote> not necessarily. do you think they are currently punished the same? even if we implement forced labor, there are still these differences: 1) security level/comfort of the prison (i.e. low security, max security) 2) sentence length 3) the work itself they would be doing. i.e. a thief could do data entry, while a rapist would be doing manual labor or something at the moment, private for-profit prisons are far more incentivized to receive prisoners than the government ever would be</quote> Fair enough, but I still think it's a poor choice. Firstly, it creates some legal problems. Let's say someone is doing hard labor in a slave prison and breaks their back; who is going to pay for their care the rest of their life? Hell, even data entry has risks. I already don't agree with private-for-profit prisons, but you still didn't address the fact that the slave-labour system would encourage the government to convict more people instead of protecting their rights. All in all, though, people aren't property and I find it morally objectionable to build any sytem on the premise that they are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/14/18 5:38:03 AM #46:	Dash_Harber posted... Rika_Furude posted... Dash_Harber posted... Rika_Furude posted... Dash_Harber posted... Rika_Furude posted... Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok? It opens the way for exploitation and insinuates that all crimes are equal. its not like they get longer sentences. and idc if a prisoner is exploited to pay back their debt to society The problem is that it incentivizes the government to imprison more people and that it punishes all criminals equally when crime and punishment is anything but. not necessarily. do you think they are currently punished the same? even if we implement forced labor, there are still these differences: 1) security level/comfort of the prison (i.e. low security, max security) 2) sentence length 3) the work itself they would be doing. i.e. a thief could do data entry, while a rapist would be doing manual labor or something at the moment, private for-profit prisons are far more incentivized to receive prisoners than the government ever would be Fair enough, but I still think it's a poor choice. Firstly, it creates some legal problems. Let's say someone is doing hard labor in a slave prison and breaks their back; who is going to pay for their care the rest of their life? Hell, even data entry has risks. I already don't agree with private-for-profit prisons, but you still didn't address the fact that the slave-labour system would encourage the government to convict more people instead of protecting their rights. All in all, though, people aren't property and I find it morally objectionable to build any sytem on the premise that they are. those are things we already have to consider. although unlikely, a prisoner could trip while getting out of bed after being woken up by a guard, and hit their head and get brain damage or die or something. so long as the proper OHS procedures are implemented, manual labor would be safe enough for a prisoner. the government isnt a business. corruption is another argument altogether and shouldnt be a factor here. --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:899632681] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why isn't slavery of a prisoner ok?</quote> It opens the way for exploitation and insinuates that all crimes are equal.</quote> its not like they get longer sentences. and idc if a prisoner is exploited to pay back their debt to society</quote> The problem is that it incentivizes the government to imprison more people and that it punishes all criminals equally when crime and punishment is anything but.</quote> not necessarily. do you think they are currently punished the same? even if we implement forced labor, there are still these differences: 1) security level/comfort of the prison (i.e. low security, max security) 2) sentence length 3) the work itself they would be doing. i.e. a thief could do data entry, while a rapist would be doing manual labor or something at the moment, private for-profit prisons are far more incentivized to receive prisoners than the government ever would be</quote> Fair enough, but I still think it's a poor choice. Firstly, it creates some legal problems. Let's say someone is doing hard labor in a slave prison and breaks their back; who is going to pay for their care the rest of their life? Hell, even data entry has risks. I already don't agree with private-for-profit prisons, but you still didn't address the fact that the slave-labour system would encourage the government to convict more people instead of protecting their rights. All in all, though, people aren't property and I find it morally objectionable to build any sytem on the premise that they are.</quote> those are things we already have to consider. although unlikely, a prisoner could trip while getting out of bed after being woken up by a guard, and hit their head and get brain damage or die or something. so long as the proper OHS procedures are implemented, manual labor would be safe enough for a prisoner. the government isnt a business. corruption is another argument altogether and shouldnt be a factor here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/14/18 5:39:39 AM #47:	It's not a problem of too many criminals. There's too many crimes. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:899632709] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>It's not a problem of too many criminals. There's too many crimes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/14/18 5:41:29 AM #48:	Rika_Furude posted... those are things we already have to consider. although unlikely, a prisoner could trip while getting out of bed after being woken up by a guard, and hit their head and get brain damage or die or something. so long as the proper OHS procedures are implemented, manual labor would be safe enough for a prisoner. Yes, but in those situations, it's easier to argue he was put at risk because of his choices, whereas being forced to do labor you are not capable of could easily result in injuries that are harder to justify. Rika_Furude posted... the government isnt a business. corruption is another argument altogether and shouldnt be a factor here. Yes, that's fine, but realistically, it's not going to work that way and you can create a government based on what is going to help the most citizens, or you can create a government that is going to function ideally in a vacuum. Again, though, what it all boils down to is that slavery or indentured servitude are immoral and I simply don't agree with any system that utilizes them. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:899632729] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> those are things we already have to consider. although unlikely, a prisoner could trip while getting out of bed after being woken up by a guard, and hit their head and get brain damage or die or something. so long as the proper OHS procedures are implemented, manual labor would be safe enough for a prisoner. </quote> Yes, but in those situations, it's easier to argue he was put at risk because of his choices, whereas being forced to do labor you are not capable of could easily result in injuries that are harder to justify. <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> the government isnt a business. corruption is another argument altogether and shouldnt be a factor here.</quote> Yes, that's fine, but realistically, it's not going to work that way and you can create a government based on what is going to help the most citizens, or you can create a government that is going to function ideally in a vacuum. Again, though, what it all boils down to is that slavery or indentured servitude are immoral and I simply don't agree with any system that utilizes them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 04/14/18 6:17:21 AM #49:	Rika_Furude posted... the government isnt a business. corruption is another argument altogether and shouldnt be a factor here. rofl "we should just ignore the things that work counter to my argument" --- http://i.imgur.com/kpXTakw.gif http://i.imgur.com/Pto3yPa.jpg http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:899633269] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>the government isnt a business. corruption is another argument altogether and shouldnt be a factor here.</quote> rofl "we should just ignore the things that work counter to my argument"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 04/14/18 7:40:16 AM #50:	I don't understand what's so bad about it (aside from whenever it pairs with privatized prisons, which I'm not sure if that happens). It's certainly more productive than having them rot in a cell all day. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:899634591] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote>I don't understand what's so bad about it (aside from whenever it pairs with privatized prisons, which I'm not sure if that happens). It's certainly more productive than having them rot in a cell all day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 04/14/18 8:12:00 AM #51:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... I don't understand what's so bad about it (aside from whenever it pairs with privatized prisons, which I'm not sure if that happens). It's certainly more productive than having them rot in a cell all day. It does. In about 130,000 privatized prisons. Unless something changed real recently. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:899635147] in is it true... [t:76509691]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>I don't understand what's so bad about it (aside from whenever it pairs with privatized prisons, which I'm not sure if that happens). It's certainly more productive than having them rot in a cell all day.</quote> It does. In about 130,000 privatized prisons. Unless something changed real recently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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