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Nomadic View 04/12/18 8:46:34 AM #1: |
On social media.
https://archive.is/Gu04G (I know illegalize isnt a word, but I had to get creative to get the gist of the topic in the title) --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kid_Buu 04/12/18 9:04:14 AM #2: |
yikes
lies are free speech --- anime girls either need a dick or thicc for me to want to have relations with them im kaname btw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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frozenshock 04/12/18 9:06:21 AM #3: |
"I'm going to bed everyone!"
*decides to play BOTW for an hour before actually sleeping* *Cops break down the door for spreading misinformation* "Get down on the floor!!!!" One week later, in the media: "Police mistake Wii U controller for a gun..." --- I don't hate people, people hate me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 04/12/18 9:06:27 AM #4: |
What specificely is the problem with the law?
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Genocet69 04/12/18 9:06:41 AM #5: |
Good.
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JordanPeterson 04/12/18 9:07:06 AM #6: |
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Nomadic View 04/12/18 9:07:37 AM #7: |
JE19426 posted...
What specificely is the problem with the law? https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JordanPeterson 04/12/18 9:08:17 AM #8: |
JE19426 posted...
What specificely is the problem with the law? What if Trump is the one who gets to enforce it? Would you like it then? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 04/12/18 9:08:38 AM #9: |
Nomadic View posted...
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment I'd say that's a nice dodge but I'd be lying. JordanPeterson posted... What if Trump is the one who gets to enforce it? Would you like it then? I wouldn't care. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Genocet69 04/12/18 9:08:53 AM #10: |
Nomadic View posted...
JE19426 posted...What specificely is the problem with the law? Wahhhh, now Russian bots will have a harder time shilling for my side!!! NOOOOOOOO --- Alt of Genocet_10-325 Conservatism is a plague on society. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rexdragon125 04/12/18 9:08:58 AM #11: |
Outlawing news that isn't government approved; nope, not literally 1984 at all
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Kineth 04/12/18 9:09:08 AM #12: |
Look at these people defending fucking propaganda.
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DevsBro 04/12/18 9:09:39 AM #13: |
Hm.
This is obviously the wrong solution to the problem but I guess it's good that somebody realizes how much of an issue unregulated information control is. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kid_Buu 04/12/18 9:09:55 AM #14: |
Kineth posted...
Look at these people defending fucking propaganda. you should get to say whatever you want maybe consider moving to North Korea if you don't like that --- anime girls either need a dick or thicc for me to want to have relations with them im kaname btw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Genocet69 04/12/18 9:10:11 AM #15: |
Sucks how Republicans won't be able to make up fake stories like pizzagate anymore to hurt Democrats huh? Damn crying shame.
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The Admiral 04/12/18 9:10:12 AM #16: |
Remember that topic from 3 days ago about how it was the right trying to censor free speech?
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Kineth 04/12/18 9:10:19 AM #17: |
Rexdragon125 posted...
Outlawing news that isn't government approved; nope, not literally 1984 at all Where were you when the police state was getting validated? --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 04/12/18 9:11:04 AM #19: |
Kid_Buu posted...
Kineth posted...Look at these people defending fucking propaganda. You can say whatever you want, but there's a reason that tabloids have to be labeled as such. And guess what. Libel and slander are laws. You guys need to hold your fucking horses. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CircleOfManias 04/12/18 9:11:24 AM #20: |
Kid_Buu posted...
Kineth posted...Look at these people defending fucking propaganda. As an individual, you can. If you call yourself "news", you need to be held to a higher standard. --- Sick liaisons raise this monumental mark The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kid_Buu 04/12/18 9:11:54 AM #21: |
CircleOfManias posted...
Kid_Buu posted...Kineth posted...Look at these people defending fucking propaganda. no. because no one can be trusted to enforce that higher standard. --- anime girls either need a dick or thicc for me to want to have relations with them im kaname btw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CircleOfManias 04/12/18 9:12:53 AM #22: |
Kid_Buu posted...
CircleOfManias posted...Kid_Buu posted...Kineth posted...Look at these people defending fucking propaganda. It's part of the fucking civil code so people have grounds to sue. It's not a criminal law enforced by a centralized body. --- Sick liaisons raise this monumental mark The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Genocet69 04/12/18 9:14:05 AM #24: |
Kaname MADoka proving how little she knows once again
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Kineth 04/12/18 9:14:47 AM #25: |
Genocet69 posted...
Kaname MADoka proving how little she knows once again Yeah, this isn't a good look at all for them. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 04/12/18 9:14:57 AM #26: |
California lol
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr 04/12/18 9:15:16 AM #27: |
SECTION 1. Title 14.5 (commencing with Section 3085) is added to Part 4 of Division 3 of the Civil Code, to read:
TITLE 14.5. False Information Strategic Plans 3085. (a) Any person who operates a social media Internet Web site with physical presence in California shall develop a strategic plan to verify news stories shared on its Internet Web site. (b) The strategic plan shall include, but is not limited to, all of the following: (1) A plan to mitigate the spread of false information through news stories. (2) The utilization of fact-checkers to verify news stories. (3) Providing outreach to social media users regarding news stories containing false information. (4) Placing a warning on a news story containing false information. (c) As used in this section, social media means an electronic service or account, or electronic content, including, but not limited to, videos, still photographs, blogs, video blogs, podcasts, instant and text messages, email, online services or accounts, or Internet Web site profiles or locations. So if I am reading this right, person A says "Hey, the sky is pink" to a friend in a Facebook messenger text. It is the job of Facebook to monitor all the messages sent through messenger and have someone contact person A and say "Actually, it's blue." (Section C and also item 3) This is ridiculous. I'm against fake news stories as much as the next guy and I believe they come more from the right than the left, but this is terrible. How about we not be afraid to publicly call out people when they spread bullshit stories? Tell Susie on her profile that she is a dumb fuck.People don't do it. --- "I also advised their executives through e-mail that further behavior could result in a cyber attack[...]" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 04/12/18 9:15:55 AM #29: |
Why do liberals hate the Bill of Rights?
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Rexdragon125 04/12/18 9:15:58 AM #30: |
https://qz.com/1250704/malaysias-fake-news-law-is-going-to-make-it-hard-to-talk-about-prime-minister-najib-razaks-connection-to-the-1mdb-scandal/
Released really close to Malaysia's fake news law too ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JordanPeterson 04/12/18 9:16:18 AM #31: |
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A_Good_Boy 04/12/18 9:16:49 AM #32: |
I'm not exactly seeing what the issue here is. News sources have to be factual and can't spread misinformation? What's the issue with that?
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JE19426 04/12/18 9:16:55 AM #33: |
WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
So if I am reading this right, person A says "Hey, the sky is pink" to a friend in a Facebook messenger text. It is the job of Facebook to monitor all the messages sent through messenger and have someone contact person A and say "Actually, it's blue." (Section C and also item 3) Only if you class a Facebook messenge text a news story. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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halomonkey1_3_5 04/12/18 9:17:25 AM #34: |
yall should be hitting this bill for the burden it will place on social media companies, not the "muh free speech" angle tbh
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A_Good_Boy 04/12/18 9:17:48 AM #35: |
WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
So if I am reading this right, person A says "Hey, the sky is pink" to a friend in a Facebook messenger text. It is the job of Facebook to monitor all the messages sent through messenger and have someone contact person A and say "Actually, it's blue." (Section C and also item 3) You actually didn't read that correctly at all. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 04/12/18 9:19:36 AM #37: |
WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
SECTION 1. Title 14.5 (commencing with Section 3085) is added to Part 4 of Division 3 of the Civil Code, to read: how is person A saying something in facebook messenger a news story? --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr 04/12/18 9:24:26 AM #38: |
thronedfire2 posted...
WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...SECTION 1. Title 14.5 (commencing with Section 3085) is added to Part 4 of Division 3 of the Civil Code, to read: Okay. I did get a little carried away in my example, but who defines what a "news story" is? I make a tumblr and post it, is that a news story? I make a tweet and it's shared... is twitter news? Fox? CNN? Are opinion shows (Sunday morning shows, round table shows) news? --- "I also advised their executives through e-mail that further behavior could result in a cyber attack[...]" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kid_Buu 04/12/18 9:25:14 AM #39: |
Kineth posted...
Genocet69 posted...Kaname MADoka proving how little she knows once again how so --- anime girls either need a dick or thicc for me to want to have relations with them im kaname btw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 04/12/18 9:25:36 AM #40: |
WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
Okay. I did get a little carried away in my example, but who defines what a "news story" is? I make a tumblr and post it, is that a news story? I make a tweet and it's shared... is twitter news? Fox? CNN? Are opinion shows (Sunday morning shows, round table shows) news? Bro just stop. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 04/12/18 9:27:54 AM #41: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Did any of you guys actually read the law? There aren't enough hours left before the sun dies for us to read anything legal. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 04/12/18 9:27:59 AM #42: |
Kid_Buu posted...
Kineth posted...Genocet69 posted...Kaname MADoka proving how little she knows once again You were speaking on something that you didn't read AND completely ignored pre-existing propaganda laws and libel and slander laws as well. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr 04/12/18 9:33:23 AM #43: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...Okay. I did get a little carried away in my example, but who defines what a "news story" is? I make a tumblr and post it, is that a news story? I make a tweet and it's shared... is twitter news? Fox? CNN? Are opinion shows (Sunday morning shows, round table shows) news? This shit needs figured out. I post an article from the KKKTimes that says all black people (something super racist and obviously not true) and it starts getting shared. By people who are disgusted and by people who support whatever I said. Fake news? Yeah, for sure. I post an article from RealFarmacy (they guys that are always saying 2 drops of lemon juice cures cancer and other bullshit like that) that says Marijuana helps with and cures cancer! Fake news? I post an opinion piece from The Wall Street Journal or some other well known news paper that says (making up numbers) that The US spends 1 trillion dollars a year, but in fact we spend 1.1 trillion dollars a year. Does this require a notice by the social media platform that's being used? I get that it's not a criminal code but it's SUPER vague. --- "I also advised their executives through e-mail that further behavior could result in a cyber attack[...]" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kid_Buu 04/12/18 9:35:28 AM #44: |
Kineth posted...
Kid_Buu posted...Kineth posted...Genocet69 posted...Kaname MADoka proving how little she knows once again Ok --- anime girls either need a dick or thicc for me to want to have relations with them im kaname btw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuia 04/12/18 9:36:40 AM #45: |
This is the beginning of the end
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The Admiral 04/12/18 9:41:40 AM #48: |
The problem with these sites having to use "fact checkers" as b2 requires is that we've already seen how biased they can be when assigning ratings. A misstatement from someone on the left? "Well, we understand the point he was making, so mostly true" Using the higher number from two research sources to make a point from the right? "Pants on fire."
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr 04/12/18 9:42:52 AM #49: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Facebook is already ahead of this law just by having an information button on every shared article so you can see what the source is and see more from it. I get what you're saying. And I would be happy if Breitbart went away forever because it's a joke. I just feel like this whole bill needs explained/fleshed out more. --- "I also advised their executives through e-mail that further behavior could result in a cyber attack[...]" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 04/12/18 9:59:21 AM #50: |
The Admiral posted...
The problem with these sites having to use "fact checkers" as b2 requires is that we've already seen how biased they can be when assigning ratings. A misstatement from someone on the left? "Well, we understand the point he was making, so mostly true" Using the higher number from two research sources to make a point from the right? "Pants on fire." Yes and I'm sure this graphic was made by someone with no bias whatsoever --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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