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brandunh11
04/20/18 9:52:46 AM
#151:


ModLogic posted...
brandunh11 posted...
ModLogic posted...
brandunh11 posted...
Its absolutely frightening that people think its perfectly okay and logical to shoot a barrage of bullets into a car full of people just to get one guy. There could have been children in that car. Not to mention other innocents in the car or even bystanders in the area.

its all on the pos trying to run from police with passengers


How derranged do you have to be to think its okay to put innocents in danger just to catch a criminal? According to your logic, if a criminal kidnapped someone or held them hostage, its a-ok for police to shoot indiscriminately at the hostage as long the criminal happened to be in the same direction. These werent sharpshooters, in position taking a well calculated shot. This was literally just a Rambo style barrage of bullets. The police are supposed to be trained professionals. I expect them to exercise better judgement than a criminal.

and this changes the fact that its still all due to the pos trying to run in the first place?


And this changes the fact that there are other ways to get the POS driiver without putting other innocents in danger?
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brandunh11
04/20/18 9:56:19 AM
#152:


darkjedilink posted...
brandunh11 posted...
ModLogic posted...
brandunh11 posted...
Its absolutely frightening that people think its perfectly okay and logical to shoot a barrage of bullets into a car full of people just to get one guy. There could have been children in that car. Not to mention other innocents in the car or even bystanders in the area.

its all on the pos trying to run from police with passengers


How derranged do you have to be to think its okay to put innocents in danger just to catch a criminal? According to your logic, if a criminal kidnapped someone or held them hostage, its a-ok for police to shoot indiscriminately at the hostage as long the criminal happened to be in the same direction. These werent sharpshooters, in position taking a well calculated shot. This was literally just a Rambo style barrage of bullets. The police are supposed to be trained professionals. I expect them to exercise better judgement than a criminal.

The DRIVER put them in danger.


I acknowledge this and he deserved to be taken into custody. I also acknowledge that the police put them in further danger which your side refuses to admit. Theres a woman in the hospital right now with bullet wounds that didnt come from the driver. I expect more from trained professionals. Riddling the car with bullets was not the only answer.
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brandunh11
04/20/18 10:15:55 AM
#153:


Spooking posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The DRIVER put them in danger.

This. People do know that a car can be used as a dangerous weapon, right? It clearly was in this case since the suspect was trying to escape, and in his panic he rammed at least two cars. We're fortunate that he didn't try to run down any innocent people. The police handled the situation swiftly.


So were fortunate that the driver didnt hurt an innocent but were perfectly fine with the fact that the cops did?

I love how several users here are pretty much admitting that its a-ok for police to hurt innocents/bystanders as long as they got the criminal too. Like I said earlier, derranged.
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Ammonitida
04/20/18 10:26:52 AM
#154:


apocalyptic_4 posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
here is my issue:

In most countries the police level of escalation goes like this:

talk > shout > manhandle > baton > taser > firearm shot to a non-lethal target (e.g. leg) > shot to a lethal target (e.g. chest, belly) > emptying the clip on somebody > several cops empty the clip on somebody

Here the level of escalation goes like:

white:

talk > shout > manhandle > baton > taser > firearm shot to a non-lethal target (e.g. leg) > shot to a lethal target (e.g. chest, belly) > emptying the clip on somebody > several cops empty the clip on somebody

black:

talk> several cops empty the clip on somebody


It's so common it's been a running joke for decades.


It's also false too. Black people are no more likely to be shot per police encounter than white people.

http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/early/2016/06/16/injuryprev-2016-042023.full

Consistent with our findings, simulation studies find police are no more likely to fire on unarmed blacks than unarmed whites,45 and high rates of black speeding citations per capita result from high violation rates.4648 A systematic review identified 10 studies that found suspect race/ethnicity did not predict use of force or its escalation.6


And this white kid was shot dead for much less.

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ModLogic
04/20/18 6:25:53 PM
#155:


brandunh11 posted...
Spooking posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The DRIVER put them in danger.

This. People do know that a car can be used as a dangerous weapon, right? It clearly was in this case since the suspect was trying to escape, and in his panic he rammed at least two cars. We're fortunate that he didn't try to run down any innocent people. The police handled the situation swiftly.


So were fortunate that the driver didnt hurt an innocent but were perfectly fine with the fact that the cops did?

I love how several users here are pretty much admitting that its a-ok for police to hurt innocents/bystanders as long as they got the criminal too. Like I said earlier, derranged.

due to the driver being a pos
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Kastrada
04/20/18 6:30:55 PM
#156:


ModLogic posted...
brandunh11 posted...
Spooking posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The DRIVER put them in danger.

This. People do know that a car can be used as a dangerous weapon, right? It clearly was in this case since the suspect was trying to escape, and in his panic he rammed at least two cars. We're fortunate that he didn't try to run down any innocent people. The police handled the situation swiftly.


So were fortunate that the driver didnt hurt an innocent but were perfectly fine with the fact that the cops did?

I love how several users here are pretty much admitting that its a-ok for police to hurt innocents/bystanders as long as they got the criminal too. Like I said earlier, derranged.

due to the driver being a pos


If a person has killed a bunch of people, then takes a bystander hostage by holding them/gun to their back or head, do you think it's ok if an officer shoots the hostage in an attempt to kill shooter?

I may or may not be watching Speed right now. >_>
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Kineth
04/20/18 7:16:36 PM
#157:


apocalyptic_4 posted...
Police overreacting

Color me surprised


Watch out, the police might look to shoot you if you're that color.
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VectorChaos
04/20/18 7:35:32 PM
#158:


Kineth posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
Police overreacting

Color me surprised


Watch out, the police might look to shoot you if you're that color.


*coughing fit of laughter*

Ok, that was good.
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