Poll of the Day > it's the punisher versus the world in new marvel comics fresh start book

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NightMareBunny
04/19/18 12:26:38 AM
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https://news.marvel.com/comics/87806/matthew-rosenberg-more-punisher/

basically punisher wore the war machine armor for awhile and took on bigger and badder threats with it but once he loses it

he doesn't want to go back to fighting low level criminals and sleazy crime bosses he wants to fight the strongest villains and this causes all countries to be on high alert and people like the avengers to be gunning for him hardcore
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Zeus
04/19/18 12:41:08 AM
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While the armor use makes sense and is a neat premise, I'm not sure whether going after super-villains is logical character development.
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Metal_Mario99
04/19/18 4:12:07 AM
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Zeus posted...
While the armor use makes sense and is a neat premise, I'm not sure whether going after super-villains is logical character development.

Why not? Most of them are responsible for more deaths than the Punisher's usual targets.
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NightMareBunny
04/19/18 3:13:39 PM
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plus the punisher's usual targets don't really end up making much of a difference he only goes after small time crooks and mob bosses

since it's 2018 stuff like ganglords and the mafia aren't as threatening as they once and the real big dogs are CEO's and elected officials
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Metal_Mario99
04/19/18 3:29:28 PM
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NightMareBunny posted...
plus the punisher's usual targets don't really end up making much of a difference he only goes after small time crooks and mob bosses

since it's 2018 stuff like ganglords and the mafia aren't as threatening as they once and the real big dogs are CEO's and elected officials

If he was going after those types, that would be something worth getting fussed about. But if Punisher wants to get kitted out in an Iron Man suit and kill off the likes of Dr. Octopus and Magneto, I say let him. What's so controversial about that?
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NightMareBunny
04/19/18 3:44:15 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
plus the punisher's usual targets don't really end up making much of a difference he only goes after small time crooks and mob bosses

since it's 2018 stuff like ganglords and the mafia aren't as threatening as they once and the real big dogs are CEO's and elected officials

If he was going after those types, that would be something worth getting fussed about. But if Punisher wants to get kitted out in an Iron Man suit and kill off the likes of Dr. Octopus and Magneto, I say let him. What's so controversial about that?


did nobody read the start of this topic?

"basically punisher wore the war machine armor for awhile and took on bigger and badder threats with it but once he loses it"

and yes he is going after big business types and super villains together because him simply punching electro wouldn't really send a message to crime

tony stark came to reclaim the war machine armor and once frank lost it he didn't want to go back to fighting two bit thugs and lowly crimelords he wanted to fight the big dogs the top of the heap he wanted to fight super villains he wanted to fight Corrupt People not just in the slums of New York but in high rise buildings where he normally doesn't do his work

I'm not sure why that would be something worth getting mad about

as i said it's 2018 and since the punisher isn't a complete moron it wouldn't take him that long to figure out his usual prey isn't really affecting much these days
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Metal_Mario99
04/19/18 4:09:51 PM
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So, just to be clear, you'd be on board with him killing people like Hillary Clinton and Mark Zuckerberg, right?
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NightMareBunny
04/19/18 4:15:06 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
So, just to be clear, you'd be on board with him killing people like Hillary Clinton and Mark Zuckerberg, right?


zuckerberg would be dealt with in one page and Hillary Clinton isn't the president of the united states nor is she really an elected official of anything right now

so I'm not sure why the punisher would give a crap about someone whose not really in the bigger picture

The Punisher isn't Some Guy who gets his targets off Conspiracy Theory Reddit
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Metal_Mario99
04/19/18 4:34:55 PM
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NightMareBunny posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
So, just to be clear, you'd be on board with him killing people like Hillary Clinton and Mark Zuckerberg, right?


zuckerberg would be dealt with in one page and Hillary Clinton isn't the president of the united states nor is she really an elected official of anything right now

so I'm not sure why the punisher would give a crap about someone whose not really in the bigger picture

The Punisher isn't Some Guy who gets his targets off Conspiracy Theory Reddit

Yeah, yeah, Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, Hillary is innocent.

President or not, she's done enough (and probably continues to do enough) to get on the Punisher's shit list if he's moving up to psychotic politicians.
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Revelation34
04/19/18 4:39:36 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
If he was going after those types, that would be something worth getting fussed about. But if Punisher wants to get kitted out in an Iron Man suit and kill off the likes of Dr. Octopus and Magneto, I say let him. What's so controversial about that?


Killing off awesome characters like that is not controversial now?
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Zeus
04/19/18 4:47:57 PM
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NightMareBunny posted...
since it's 2018 stuff like ganglords and the mafia aren't as threatening as they once and the real big dogs are CEO's and elected officials


Uh, what? Did NMB really just conflate elected officials and CEOs with mob bosses? >_>

NightMareBunny posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
So, just to be clear, you'd be on board with him killing people like Hillary Clinton and Mark Zuckerberg, right?


zuckerberg would be dealt with in one page and Hillary Clinton isn't the president of the united states nor is she really an elected official of anything right now

so I'm not sure why the punisher would give a crap about someone whose not really in the bigger picture

The Punisher isn't Some Guy who gets his targets off Conspiracy Theory Reddit


What exactly do you think the Punisher does? I'm not sure why you think he'd want to target CEOs or politicians, both of whom he *could* have been killing all along.

Revelation34 posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
If he was going after those types, that would be something worth getting fussed about. But if Punisher wants to get kitted out in an Iron Man suit and kill off the likes of Dr. Octopus and Magneto, I say let him. What's so controversial about that?


Killing off awesome characters like that is not controversial now?


It's comics, everybody except Uncle Ben (and sometimes Gwen Stacy) eventually comes back. Hell, Doc Ock has been dead a few times now.
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Dikitain
04/19/18 4:50:03 PM
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I don't know why they couldn't keep Becky Cloonan as writer for the Punisher. She was doing a fine job even after the yearlong story line she originally wrote for concluded. I get the feeling after Steve Dillon died they were so desperate to reboot that they threw the baby out with the bath water.

The war machine story line is horrible, and this new one just seems worse. I know you want to capitalize on the success of the Netflix series Marvel but if you can't get a competent writer to work on Punisher then let the series die for a while.
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Krazy_Kirby
04/19/18 5:05:12 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
NightMareBunny posted...
plus the punisher's usual targets don't really end up making much of a difference he only goes after small time crooks and mob bosses

since it's 2018 stuff like ganglords and the mafia aren't as threatening as they once and the real big dogs are CEO's and elected officials

If he was going after those types, that would be something worth getting fussed about. But if Punisher wants to get kitted out in an Iron Man suit and kill off the likes of Dr. Octopus and Magneto, I say let him. What's so controversial about that?


iron man suit against magneto... lol
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