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Ippa555 05/25/18 7:44:02 AM #105:	This is why we keep our guns. Try arresting me for my speech and I'll shoot the first mother fucker who comes looking for me. If I'm going to jail, then I'm committing a god damn crime. --- i5-3450 @ 3.1GHz, 250GB SSD, 8 GB RAM, GeForce GTX 950 + PS4 + XB1 + Wii U <cite>Ippa555 posted [p:901956063] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote>This is why we keep our guns. Try arresting me for my speech and I'll shoot the first mother fucker who comes looking for me. If I'm going to jail, then I'm committing a god damn crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/25/18 8:40:27 AM #106:	darkjedilink posted... Oh, fuck off. Your victim narrative has literally gotten to the point that it is now being used as a weapon. Who hurt you? --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:901957389] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Oh, fuck off. Your victim narrative has literally gotten to the point that it is now being used as a weapon.</quote> Who hurt you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suchomimus 05/27/18 2:42:33 AM #108:	The UK is a police state --- I'm a peasant. <cite>Suchomimus posted [p:902053228] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote>The UK is a police state</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 05/27/18 4:17:50 AM #109:	Suchomimus posted... The UK is a police state Not even remotely. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:902055149] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>Suchomimus posted...</cite> <quote>The UK is a police state</quote> Not even remotely.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 05/27/18 6:56:17 AM #110:	spikethedevil posted... Suchomimus posted... The UK is a police state Not even remotely. I dunno. Arresting people for posting harmless jokes or rap lyrics online isn't a great look for them. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:902057548] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Suchomimus posted...</cite> <quote>The UK is a police state</quote> Not even remotely.</quote> I dunno. Arresting people for posting harmless jokes or rap lyrics online isn't a great look for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/27/18 7:12:34 AM #111:	Esrac posted... I dunno. Arresting people for posting harmless jokes or rap lyrics online isn't a great look for them. Ok, not sure what that has to do with spikethedevil's post but ok. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902057787] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I dunno. Arresting people for posting harmless jokes or rap lyrics online isn't a great look for them. </quote> Ok, not sure what that has to do with spikethedevil's post but ok.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiggetySplicer 05/28/18 9:18:22 PM #112:	JE19426 posted... Esrac posted... I dunno. Arresting people for posting harmless jokes or rap lyrics online isn't a great look for them. Ok, not sure what that has to do with spikethedevil's post but ok. It's pretty police stateish <cite>GiggetySplicer posted [p:902147197] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I dunno. Arresting people for posting harmless jokes or rap lyrics online isn't a great look for them. </quote> Ok, not sure what that has to do with spikethedevil's post but ok.</quote> It's pretty police stateish</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/28/18 9:59:56 PM #113:	GiggetySplicer posted... It's pretty police stateish How so? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902149686] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiggetySplicer posted...</cite> <quote>It's pretty police stateish</quote> How so?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 05/29/18 12:37:48 AM #114:	JE19426 posted... GiggetySplicer posted... It's pretty police stateish How so? That part where otherwise law abiding citizens can be arrested and convicted of crimes for saying harmless things online. Calling it a police state might be an exaggeration, but its leaning in that direction. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:902159505] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiggetySplicer posted...</cite> <quote>It's pretty police stateish</quote> How so?</quote> That part where otherwise law abiding citizens can be arrested and convicted of crimes for saying harmless things online. Calling it a police state might be an exaggeration, but its leaning in that direction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 12:53:49 AM #115:	Esrac posted... That part where otherwise law abiding citizens can be arrested and convicted of crimes for saying harmless things online. Criminals going to jail for committing crimes is hardly unique to police states. Calling it a police state might be an exaggeration, but its leaning in that direction. I don't see how. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902160124] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>That part where otherwise law abiding citizens can be arrested and convicted of crimes for saying harmless things online. </quote> Criminals going to jail for committing crimes is hardly unique to police states. <quote>Calling it a police state might be an exaggeration, but its leaning in that direction.</quote> I don't see how.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BrapEnthusiast 05/29/18 1:32:41 AM #117:	JE19426 posted... Esrac posted... That part where otherwise law abiding citizens can be arrested and convicted of crimes for saying harmless things online. Criminals going to jail for committing crimes is hardly unique to police states. Calling it a police state might be an exaggeration, but its leaning in that direction. I don't see how. jjailing people for absolutely harmless speech is a hallmark of a police state. you know this. why you playin --- it's party time excellent <cite>BrapEnthusiast posted [p:902161429] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>That part where otherwise law abiding citizens can be arrested and convicted of crimes for saying harmless things online. </quote> Criminals going to jail for committing crimes is hardly unique to police states. <quote>Calling it a police state might be an exaggeration, but its leaning in that direction.</quote> I don't see how.</quote> jjailing people for absolutely harmless speech is a hallmark of a police state. you know this. why you playin</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 1:37:55 AM #118:	BrapEnthusiast posted... jjailing people for absolutely harmless speech is a hallmark of a police state. How so? you know this. Wrong. Try again. why you playin I'm not playing anything. If I was I wouldn't be posting here. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902161605] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>BrapEnthusiast posted...</cite> <quote>jjailing people for absolutely harmless speech is a hallmark of a police state.</quote> How so? <quote>you know this.</quote> Wrong. Try again. <quote>why you playin</quote> I'm not playing anything. If I was I wouldn't be posting here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 1:42:01 AM #119:	JE19426 posted... How so? How isn't it? You're clearly using a pretty specific definition of police state. Why don't you clarify what it is you're thinking rather than trying to lead people along. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902161740] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>How so?</quote> How isn't it? You're clearly using a pretty specific definition of police state. Why don't you clarify what it is you're thinking rather than trying to lead people along.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 05/29/18 1:43:08 AM #120:	Wow --- "And you can't tell me what my spirit tells me isn't true, can you?" <cite>EverDownward posted [p:902161767] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote>Wow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 1:44:33 AM #121:	GiftedACIII posted... How isn't it? You're clearly using a pretty specific definition of police state. Why don't you clarify what it is you're thinking rather than trying to lead people along. You (And the others) are the ones making a claim. Not me, it's your responsibility to back up your claim. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902161813] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>How isn't it? You're clearly using a pretty specific definition of police state. Why don't you clarify what it is you're thinking rather than trying to lead people along.</quote> You (And the others) are the ones making a claim. Not me, it's your responsibility to back up your claim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 1:49:36 AM #122:	JE19426 posted... GiftedACIII posted... How isn't it? You're clearly using a pretty specific definition of police state. Why don't you clarify what it is you're thinking rather than trying to lead people along. You (And the others) are the ones making a claim. Not me, it's your responsibility to back up your claim. I mean, most people think of police state as a government that excessively restricts free speech and activities which restricting jokes and song lyrics is. You're clearly thinking of a more specific definition though so why don't you just clarify what your problem with the claim is. Your tactic right now is just akin to someone denying that slavery is racist and then going "how so" every time it's said what aspects of it make it racist. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902161994] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>How isn't it? You're clearly using a pretty specific definition of police state. Why don't you clarify what it is you're thinking rather than trying to lead people along.</quote> You (And the others) are the ones making a claim. Not me, it's your responsibility to back up your claim.</quote> I mean, most people think of police state as a government that excessively restricts free speech and activities which restricting jokes and song lyrics is. You're clearly thinking of a more specific definition though so why don't you just clarify what your problem with the claim is. Your tactic right now is just akin to someone denying that slavery is racist and then going "how so" every time it's said what aspects of it make it racist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 1:56:19 AM #123:	GiftedACIII posted... I mean, most people think of police state as a government that excessively restricts free speech and activities which restricting jokes and song lyrics is. Do you have a source for that? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902162188] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, most people think of police state as a government that excessively restricts free speech and activities which restricting jokes and song lyrics is.</quote> Do you have a source for that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 2:04:54 AM #124:	JE19426 posted... GiftedACIII posted... I mean, most people think of police state as a government that excessively restricts free speech and activities which restricting jokes and song lyrics is. Do you have a source for that? I was afraid you'd just go for another low effort shitpost. Do you have a source that most people think slavery is racist? I know you're capable of making logical and reasonable posts. Just say what your problem with the claim is. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902162464] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, most people think of police state as a government that excessively restricts free speech and activities which restricting jokes and song lyrics is.</quote> Do you have a source for that?</quote> I was afraid you'd just go for another low effort shitpost. Do you have a source that most people think slavery is racist? I know you're capable of making logical and reasonable posts. Just say what your problem with the claim is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 2:10:46 AM #125:	GiftedACIII posted... I was afraid you'd just go for another low effort shitpost. Asking people to source their claims is a shitpost? Do you really think that? Do you have a source that most people think slavery is racist? I don't think I've ever made that claim so why would I have a source to back it up? Just say what your problem with the claim is. The claim is unsourced. That's why I'm asking for a source. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902162630] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>I was afraid you'd just go for another low effort shitpost. </quote> Asking people to source their claims is a shitpost? Do you really think that? <quote>Do you have a source that most people think slavery is racist?</quote> I don't think I've ever made that claim so why would I have a source to back it up? <quote>Just say what your problem with the claim is.</quote> The claim is unsourced. That's why I'm asking for a source.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 2:16:48 AM #126:	JE19426 posted... GiftedACIII posted... I was afraid you'd just go for another low effort shitpost. Asking people to source their claims is a shitpost? Do you really think that? Just say what your problem with the claim is. The claim is unsourced. That's why I'm asking for a source. Asking people to source common sense or logical conclusions is shitposting. Do you have a source that most people think slavery is racist? I don't think I've ever made that claim so why would I have a source to back it up? So you don't think most people think slavery is racist? Also, if we're going down this route, why is it our responsibility to prove the claim? You need to back that claim up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state but since the beginning of the 20th century it has "taken on an emotional and derogatory meaning" by describing an undesirable state of living characterized by the overbearing presence of the civil authorities. Criminalizing jokes and song lyrics falls under this. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902162784] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>I was afraid you'd just go for another low effort shitpost. </quote> Asking people to source their claims is a shitpost? Do you really think that? <quote>Just say what your problem with the claim is.</quote> The claim is unsourced. That's why I'm asking for a source.</quote> Asking people to source common sense or logical conclusions is shitposting. Do you have a source that most people think slavery is racist? <quote>I don't think I've ever made that claim so why would I have a source to back it up?</quote> So you don't think most people think slavery is racist? Also, if we're going down this route, why is it our responsibility to prove the claim? You need to back that claim up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state <quote> but since the beginning of the 20th century it has "taken on an emotional and derogatory meaning" by describing an undesirable state of living characterized by the overbearing presence of the civil authorities.</quote> Criminalizing jokes and song lyrics falls under this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilJoe457 05/29/18 2:17:10 AM #127:	Let's be more like Europe they say. No thanks. Being able to serve jail time over words in which anyone can claim is hurtful it's a joke. I'll take whatever problems America has over that. Don't think people understand the absurd loop hole that opens. So if one day the government really wants to crack down and it's time to start a movement to make a real change, well you can't because anything anti government will just be called hate speech. Seems fun. --- What about me? What about my sig? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsszagC0GdI Total Package. <cite>lilJoe457 posted [p:902162795] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote>Let's be more like Europe they say. No thanks. Being able to serve jail time over words in which anyone can claim is hurtful it's a joke. I'll take whatever problems America has over that. Don't think people understand the absurd loop hole that opens. So if one day the government really wants to crack down and it's time to start a movement to make a real change, well you can't because anything anti government will just be called hate speech. Seems fun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 2:19:49 AM #128:	GiftedACIII posted... Asking people to source common sense or logical conclusions is shitposting. What part of that is related to my statement? Do you have a source that most people think slavery is racist? JE19426 post... I don't think I've ever made that claim so why would I have a source to back it up? GiftedACIII posted... Criminalizing jokes and song lyrics falls under this Let's see your source that backs it up. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902162887] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Asking people to source common sense or logical conclusions is shitposting.</quote> What part of that is related to my statement? <quote>Do you have a source that most people think slavery is racist?</quote> <cite>JE19426 post... </cite> <quote>I don't think I've ever made that claim so why would I have a source to back it up?</quote> <cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Criminalizing jokes and song lyrics falls under this</quote> Let's see your source that backs it up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 2:22:15 AM #129:	JE19426 posted... GiftedACIII posted... Asking people to source common sense or logical conclusions is shitposting. What part of that is related to my statement? Do you have a source that most people think slavery is racist? JE19426 post... I don't think I've ever made that claim so why would I have a source to back it up? GiftedACIII posted... Criminalizing jokes and song lyrics falls under this Let's see your source that backs it up. Now you're just going into denial. Where's your source that I have to back it up? --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902162953] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Asking people to source common sense or logical conclusions is shitposting.</quote> What part of that is related to my statement? <quote>Do you have a source that most people think slavery is racist?</quote> <cite>JE19426 post... </cite> <quote>I don't think I've ever made that claim so why would I have a source to back it up?</quote> <cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Criminalizing jokes and song lyrics falls under this</quote> Let's see your source that backs it up.</quote> Now you're just going into denial. Where's your source that I have to back it up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 2:29:40 AM #130:	GiftedACIII posted... Now you're just going into denial. How so? Where's your source that I have to back it up? To back what up? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902163168] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Now you're just going into denial.</quote> How so? <quote>Where's your source that I have to back it up?</quote> To back what up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wdlp 05/29/18 2:31:02 AM #131:	Why are you arguing with him? Stop it --- wdlp <cite>wdlp posted [p:902163210] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote>Why are you arguing with him? Stop it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 2:31:36 AM #132:	JE19426 posted... GiftedACIII posted... Now you're just going into denial. How so? Where's your source that I have to back it up? To back what up? How aren't you? That criminalizing jokes and songs falls under an overbearing presence by civil authorities. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902163230] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Now you're just going into denial.</quote> How so? <quote>Where's your source that I have to back it up?</quote> To back what up?</quote> How aren't you? That criminalizing jokes and songs falls under an overbearing presence by civil authorities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 2:33:33 AM #133:	GiftedACIII posted... How aren't you? How am I? That criminalizing jokes and songs falls under an overbearing presence by civil authorities. Do you have a source to back that up? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902163291] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>How aren't you?</quote> How am I? <quote>That criminalizing jokes and songs falls under an overbearing presence by civil authorities.</quote> Do you have a source to back that up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 2:35:11 AM #134:	JE19426 posted... GiftedACIII posted... How aren't you? How am I? That criminalizing jokes and songs falls under an overbearing presence by civil authorities. Do you have a source to back that up? How aren't you? Do you have a source that I need to back that up? --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902163333] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>How aren't you?</quote> How am I? <quote>That criminalizing jokes and songs falls under an overbearing presence by civil authorities.</quote> Do you have a source to back that up?</quote> How aren't you? Do you have a source that I need to back that up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 2:38:32 AM #135:	GiftedACIII posted... How aren't you? How am I? Do you have a source that I need to back that up? JE19426 posted... I don't think I've ever made that claim so why would I have a source to back it up? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902163417] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>How aren't you?</quote> How am I? <quote>Do you have a source that I need to back that up?</quote> <cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think I've ever made that claim so why would I have a source to back it up?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 2:42:37 AM #136:	JE19426 posted... How am I? How aren't you? Do you have a source that I need to back that up? JE19426 posted... I don't think I've ever made that claim so why would I have a source to back it up? You're not claiming I need a source that UK is a police state? Ok, cool. UK is a police state. I don't need to source it. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902163512] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote> How am I?</quote> How aren't you? <quote> <quote>Do you have a source that I need to back that up?</quote> <cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think I've ever made that claim so why would I have a source to back it up?</quote></quote> You're not claiming I need a source that UK is a police state? Ok, cool. UK is a police state. I don't need to source it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 2:45:12 AM #137:	GiftedACIII posted... How aren't you? How am I? The burden of proof is on you. GiftedACIII posted... You're not claiming I need a source that UK is a police state? I guess it depends on what you mean by "need", you aren't going to die on anything if you don't source it, so need seems too strong to me. The burden of proof is on you however. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902163577] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>How aren't you?</quote> How am I? The burden of proof is on you. <cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>You're not claiming I need a source that UK is a police state?</quote> I guess it depends on what you mean by "need", you aren't going to die on anything if you don't source it, so need seems too strong to me. The burden of proof is on you however.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 2:46:02 AM #138:	JE19426 posted... How am I? The burden of proof is on you. How is the burden of proof on me? JE19426 posted... I guess it depends on what you mean by "need", you aren't going to die on anything if you don't source it, so need seems too strong to me. The burden of proof is on you however. Do you have a source for that? --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902163595] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>How am I? The burden of proof is on you.</quote> How is the burden of proof on me? <cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>I guess it depends on what you mean by "need", you aren't going to die on anything if you don't source it, so need seems too strong to me. The burden of proof is on you however.</quote> Do you have a source for that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 2:54:25 AM #139:	GiftedACIII posted... How is the burden of proof on me? Because you are the one making the claim, not me. GiftedACIII posted... Do you have a source for that? Yes. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902163764] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>How is the burden of proof on me?</quote> Because you are the one making the claim, not me. <cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Do you have a source for that?</quote> Yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 2:55:15 AM #140:	JE19426 posted... Because you are the one making the claim, not me. And? JE19426 posted... Yes How so? --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902163784] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>Because you are the one making the claim, not me.</quote> And? <cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote> Yes</quote> How so?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 2:59:20 AM #141:	GiftedACIII posted... And? That means the burden of proof is on you. How so? I'm not sure how I can be more clear. You asked a "yes" or "no" question, and I answered "yes". My answer was as simple as it gets. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902163881] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>And?</quote> That means the burden of proof is on you. <quote>How so?</quote> I'm not sure how I can be more clear. You asked a "yes" or "no" question, and I answered "yes". My answer was as simple as it gets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 3:00:55 AM #142:	JE19426 posted... That means the burden of proof is on you. How so? JE19426 posted... I'm not sure how I can be more clear. You asked a "yes" or "no" question, and I answered "yes". My answer was as simple as it gets. Where's your source? --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902163915] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>That means the burden of proof is on you. </quote> How so? <cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure how I can be more clear. You asked a "yes" or "no" question, and I answered "yes". My answer was as simple as it gets.</quote> Where's your source?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 3:03:37 AM #143:	GiftedACIII posted... How so? The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. You are making the claim, and therefore have the burden of proof. Where's your source? I have it open on another browser tab. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902163972] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>How so?</quote> The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. You are making the claim, and therefore have the burden of proof. <quote>Where's your source?</quote> I have it open on another browser tab.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 3:05:34 AM #144:	JE19426 posted... The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. You are making the claim, and therefore have the burden of proof. How so? JE19426 posted... I have it open on another browser tab. Coincidence. That's also where my source that the UK is a police state is. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902164011] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. You are making the claim, and therefore have the burden of proof. </quote> How so? <cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>I have it open on another browser tab.</quote> Coincidence. That's also where my source that the UK is a police state is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 3:08:13 AM #145:	GiftedACIII posted... How so? I'm not sure how to make my statement any more simplified. Could you explain exactly what part of the statement you don't understand. That's also where my source that the UK is a police state is. Please link it here in your next post. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902164075] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>How so?</quote> I'm not sure how to make my statement any more simplified. Could you explain exactly what part of the statement you don't understand. <quote>That's also where my source that the UK is a police state is.</quote> Please link it here in your next post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 3:14:24 AM #146:	JE19426 posted... I'm not sure how to make my statement any more simplified. Could you explain exactly what part of the statement you don't understand. Your claim is unsourced. JE19426 posted... Please link it here in your next post. I have it open on another browser tab. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902164238] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure how to make my statement any more simplified. Could you explain exactly what part of the statement you don't understand. </quote> Your claim is unsourced. <cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>Please link it here in your next post.</quote> I have it open on another browser tab.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 3:17:23 AM #147:	GiftedACIII posted... Your claim is unsourced. I can source it if you'd like me to. I have it open on another browser tab. Ok. Could you link here in you next post? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902164311] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Your claim is unsourced. </quote> I can source it if you'd like me to. <quote>I have it open on another browser tab.</quote> Ok. Could you link here in you next post?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 3:18:31 AM #148:	JE19426 posted... I can source it if you'd like me to. Then do it. JE19426 posted... Ok. Could you link here in you next post? I have it open on another browser tab. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902164339] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>I can source it if you'd like me to.</quote> Then do it. <cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>Ok. Could you link here in you next post? </quote> I have it open on another browser tab.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 3:21:27 AM #149:	GiftedACIII posted... Then do it. http://www.qcc.cuny.edu/SocialSciences/ppecorino/PHIL_of_RELIGION_TEXT/CHAPTER_5_ARGUMENTS_EXPERIENCE/Burden-of-Proof.htm I have it open on another browser tab. Ok. Could you link here in you next post? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902164410] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Then do it.</quote> http://www.qcc.cuny.edu/SocialSciences/ppecorino/PHIL_of_RELIGION_TEXT/CHAPTER_5_ARGUMENTS_EXPERIENCE/Burden-of-Proof.htm <quote>I have it open on another browser tab.</quote> Ok. Could you link here in you next post?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Oatcakes 05/29/18 3:21:46 AM #150:	Always top lols when Americans lose their shit about stuff like this because of "freedom" forgetting they live in a country where the government literally can decide if you can live or die. --- F.C. Stokalona https://imgur.com/CJ0dPBq <cite>Oatcakes posted [p:902164418] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote>Always top lols when Americans lose their shit about stuff like this because of "freedom" forgetting they live in a country where the government literally can decide if you can live or die.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 3:22:49 AM #151:	Oatcakes posted... Always top lols when Americans lose their shit about stuff like this because of "freedom" forgetting they live in a country where the government literally can decide if you can live or die. The UK is the America of Europe. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902164451] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>Oatcakes posted...</cite> <quote>Always top lols when Americans lose their shit about stuff like this because of "freedom" forgetting they live in a country where the government literally can decide if you can live or die.</quote> The UK is the America of Europe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 3:24:04 AM #152:	GiftedACIII posted... The UK is the America of Europe. Maybe, but I'd rather be the America of Europe than be the America of the universe. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902164472] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>The UK is the America of Europe.</quote> Maybe, but I'd rather be the America of Europe than be the America of the universe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Oatcakes 05/29/18 3:25:10 AM #153:	GiftedACIII posted... Oatcakes posted... Always top lols when Americans lose their shit about stuff like this because of "freedom" forgetting they live in a country where the government literally can decide if you can live or die. The UK is the America of Europe. I mean, my government can't lock me up and then literally kill me, so until then nope. --- F.C. Stokalona https://imgur.com/CJ0dPBq <cite>Oatcakes posted [p:902164504] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Oatcakes posted...</cite> <quote>Always top lols when Americans lose their shit about stuff like this because of "freedom" forgetting they live in a country where the government literally can decide if you can live or die.</quote> The UK is the America of Europe.</quote> I mean, my government can't lock me up and then literally kill me, so until then nope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/29/18 3:34:19 AM #154:	JE19426 posted... http://www.qcc.cuny.edu/SocialSciences/ppecorino/PHIL_of_RELIGION_TEXT/CHAPTER_5_ARGUMENTS_EXPERIENCE/Burden-of-Proof.htm And how does that prove anything? JE19426 posted... Ok. Could you link here in you next post? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state JE19426 posted... GiftedACIII posted... The UK is the America of Europe. Maybe, but I'd rather be the America of Europe than be the America of the universe. I agree. Oatcakes posted... I mean, my government can't lock me up and then literally kill me, so until then nope. Your government spies on its civilians, restricts the internet along with other free speech, interferes in elections https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/26/cambridge-analytica-trump-campaign-us-election-laws, and has some of the worst crime rates and quality of life out of all developed countries barring the US. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:902164721] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.qcc.cuny.edu/SocialSciences/ppecorino/PHIL_of_RELIGION_TEXT/CHAPTER_5_ARGUMENTS_EXPERIENCE/Burden-of-Proof.htm</quote> And how does that prove anything? <cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote>Ok. Could you link here in you next post?</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state <cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>The UK is the America of Europe.</quote> Maybe, but I'd rather be the America of Europe than be the America of the universe.</quote> I agree. <cite>Oatcakes posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, my government can't lock me up and then literally kill me, so until then nope.</quote> Your government spies on its civilians, restricts the internet along with other free speech, interferes in elections https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/26/cambridge-analytica-trump-campaign-us-election-laws, and has some of the worst crime rates and quality of life out of all developed countries barring the US.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/29/18 3:41:55 AM #155:	GiftedACIII posted... And how does that prove anything? It proves it quite articulately. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state That doesn't say the UK is a police state. Your government spies on its civilians, restricts the internet along with other free speech, interferes in elections https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/26/cambridge-analytica-trump-campaign-us-election-laws, and has some of the worst crime rates and quality of life https://www.theguardian.com/money/2011/sep/29/uk-worst-quality-of-life-europe out of all developed countries barring the US. I'd say all of that is better than a government that can legally kill you. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:902164905] in Liverpool ... [t:76533689]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote> And how does that prove anything?</quote> It proves it quite articulately. <quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state</quote> That doesn't say the UK is a police state. <quote>Your government spies on its civilians, restricts the internet along with other free speech, interferes in elections https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/26/cambridge-analytica-trump-campaign-us-election-laws, and has some of the worst crime rates and quality of life https://www.theguardian.com/money/2011/sep/29/uk-worst-quality-of-life-europe out of all developed countries barring the US.</quote> I'd say all of that is better than a government that can legally kill you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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