Current Events > Pokemon Fire Red: Should I give Earthquake to Nidoking, or Tauros?

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Duncanwii
04/20/18 2:04:23 PM
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Nidoking gets STAB but Tauros is stronger offensively

The Rest of the sets are

Tauros Blizzard, Facade, Iron Tail

Nidoking: Shadow Ball, Surf, Megahorn
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Big_Nabendu
04/20/18 2:05:00 PM
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Nidoking
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Ki_cat_
04/20/18 2:13:51 PM
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Tauros
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Duncanwii
04/20/18 2:14:04 PM
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Big_Nabendu posted...
Nidoking

Then what's a good alternative move for Tauros? I'm not at a point where I can clone Tms currently.

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Big_Nabendu
04/20/18 2:25:01 PM
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Dont get me wrong. EQ is wonderful for Tauros.I'm just a fan of the nido families.

Lets see for tauros.....
Here's a couple

Iron Tail
Return
Fire blast
Earthquake

Double-Edge
Earthquake
Stone Edge / Return
Payback / Pursuit

Substitute
Return
Earthquake
Fire Blast
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Touch
04/20/18 2:28:06 PM
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If Ash's 100 Tauros all used earthquake at the same time what would happen
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Flockaveli
04/20/18 2:34:59 PM
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Touch posted...
If Ash's 100 Tauros all used earthquake at the same time what would happen

Rayquaza would come down from the sky and tell them all to shut the fuck up.
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ArchangelBaruch
04/20/18 2:35:32 PM
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This was before the split. Get him Hyperbeam.
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GOOMFalse
04/20/18 2:37:12 PM
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Nidoking #1
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GallisOTK
04/20/18 2:43:27 PM
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Nidoking, unless you also have the TM for Sludge Bomb to teach him. Using a Pokemon with so many attacking moves and none of them having STAB is pointless.

ArchangelBaruch posted...
This was before the split. Get him Hyperbeam.

Fuck no. Two uses of an actually good normal move (Return, Body Slam, etc.) is stronger than Hyper Beam and the recharge turn. This isn't R/B/Y where if you get a KO with it you skip the recharge. Hyper Beam and moves like it are shit outside of R/B/Y.
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ArchangelBaruch
04/20/18 2:50:28 PM
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GallisOTK posted...
Nidoking, unless you also have the TM for Sludge Bomb to teach him. Using a Pokemon with so many attacking moves and none of them having STAB is pointless.

ArchangelBaruch posted...
This was before the split. Get him Hyperbeam.

Fuck no. Two uses of an actually good normal move (Return, Body Slam, etc.) is stronger than Hyper Beam and the recharge turn. This isn't R/B/Y where if you get a KO with it you skip the recharge. Hyper Beam and moves like it are shit outside of R/B/Y.


Tauros' Hyperbeam presplit can OHKO tons of stuff, upon which you can switch your Pok.

But sure, Body Slam is a nice alternative.
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Duncanwii
04/20/18 2:54:23 PM
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Is Blizzard as good as Fire Blast?
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Proto_Spark
04/20/18 2:58:27 PM
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ArchangelBaruch posted...
GallisOTK posted...
Nidoking, unless you also have the TM for Sludge Bomb to teach him. Using a Pokemon with so many attacking moves and none of them having STAB is pointless.

ArchangelBaruch posted...
This was before the split. Get him Hyperbeam.

Fuck no. Two uses of an actually good normal move (Return, Body Slam, etc.) is stronger than Hyper Beam and the recharge turn. This isn't R/B/Y where if you get a KO with it you skip the recharge. Hyper Beam and moves like it are shit outside of R/B/Y.


Tauros' Hyperbeam presplit can OHKO tons of stuff, upon which you can switch your Pok.

But sure, Body Slam is a nice alternative.


This, especially with a normal type, Hyper Beam just has the huge amount of power to maybe kill something you otherwise wouldn't, making it great for when you probably won't survive two turns. Although IIRC you can't switch out on a recharge turn

And considering Tauros' movepool is absolutely horrible gen 3, its not like he'll be losing out on another move by going Hyper Beam. Its so awful OP needs to put that base 40 Special attack to use.
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zado19
04/20/18 3:17:05 PM
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why does he have blizzard instead of rock slide?

Tauros has a base Special of 40.... Blizzard is useless on him
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Duncanwii
04/20/18 3:18:54 PM
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zado19 posted...
why does he have blizzard instead of rock slide?

Tauros has a base Special of 40.... Blizzard is useless on him

Can't learn Rock Slide in Gen 3. If he could it would be on him :(
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Duncanwii
04/20/18 3:22:18 PM
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Guys is the Mild shiny Magicarp I have worth anything? I mean it is shiny but can Gyarados run a special set?
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ArchangelBaruch
04/20/18 3:30:40 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
zado19 posted...
why does he have blizzard instead of rock slide?

Tauros has a base Special of 40.... Blizzard is useless on him

Can't learn Rock Slide in Gen 3. If he could it would be on him :(


Blizzard was a good choice in Gen1. In Gen3... not so much.
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Gheb
04/20/18 3:31:51 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Guys is the Mild shiny Magicarp I have worth anything? I mean it is shiny but can Gyarados run a special set?

Not well. 60 Special Attack is garbage.
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Proto_Spark
04/20/18 3:33:06 PM
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Gheb posted...
Duncanwii posted...
Guys is the Mild shiny Magicarp I have worth anything? I mean it is shiny but can Gyarados run a special set?

Not well. 60 Special Attack is garbage.


If you're ingame, any nature that doesn't decrease attack or speed is honestly fine for magikarp. I wouldn't bother with a special set, but it still as useful as any other gyarados.
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Gheb
04/20/18 3:36:36 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
Gheb posted...
Duncanwii posted...
Guys is the Mild shiny Magicarp I have worth anything? I mean it is shiny but can Gyarados run a special set?

Not well. 60 Special Attack is garbage.


If you're ingame, any nature that doesn't decrease attack or speed is honestly fine for magikarp. I wouldn't bother with a special set, but it still as useful as any other gyarados.


For in game any nature is fine. Even if it's a negative one. A -Atk physical Gyarados is still much more of an offensive presence than a +SpAtk special Gyarados.
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