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scar the 1 04/25/18 11:21:17 AM #1:	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change The US have meddled in elections, helped overthrow democratically elected leaders, funded military dictatorships, etc. for many decades. So why is it such a shock and such an outrage when the Russians do it? :thinking: --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:900276692] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change The US have meddled in elections, helped overthrow democratically elected leaders, funded military dictatorships, etc. for many decades. So why is it such a shock and such an outrage when the Russians do it? :thinking:</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 04/25/18 11:23:02 AM #2:	That's different. The US has the better system and it's important to instill our democracy on countries that don't have it. --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:900276773] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>That's different. The US has the better system and it's important to instill our democracy on countries that don't have it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ben_Ruggiero 04/25/18 11:24:19 AM #3:	People only care,because their side lost and they have to desperately cling to anything that will make them feel better. Trump won. Trump will win again. --- A wiseguy never pays for his drinks <cite>Ben_Ruggiero posted [p:900276830] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>People only care,because their side lost and they have to desperately cling to anything that will make them feel better. Trump won. Trump will win again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 04/25/18 11:24:51 AM #4:	Is what we did to Hawaii that much different from what Russia did to Crimea? --- To err is human To arr is pirate <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:900276863] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>Is what we did to Hawaii that much different from what Russia did to Crimea?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 04/25/18 11:25:06 AM #5:	I've never said that the countries whose elections we meddle in don't have the right to get mad at us. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:900276873] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>I've never said that the countries whose elections we meddle in don't have the right to get mad at us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 04/25/18 11:25:32 AM #6:	EndOfDiscOne posted... That's different. The US has the better system and it's important to instill our democracy on countries that don't have it. the us does not care about democracy in other countries. just what benefits the USA and... --- https://i.imgur.com/aVTScxQ.jpg Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:900276896] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote><cite>EndOfDiscOne posted...</cite> <quote>That's different. The US has the better system and it's important to instill our democracy on countries that don't have it.</quote> the us does not care about democracy in other countries. just what benefits the USA and...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 04/25/18 11:27:59 AM #7:	Isn't it a little hypocritical to talk of "Land of the Free" when you have a history of financing the overthrow of democratic leaders to install military dictatorships? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:900277007] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>Isn't it a little hypocritical to talk of "Land of the Free" when you have a history of financing the overthrow of democratic leaders to install military dictatorships?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 04/25/18 11:28:43 AM #8:	I'm sure the countries whose elections the US inteferes in are upset. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:900277034] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>I'm sure the countries whose elections the US inteferes in are upset.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 04/27/18 7:00:45 AM #10:	I don't know why you think people are unilaterally approving of their own country's actions. You can find both the US's and Russia's actions appalling. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:900388558] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>I don't know why you think people are unilaterally approving of their own country's actions. You can find both the US's and Russia's actions appalling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 04/27/18 7:02:37 AM #11:	Not many (or especially not all or most of us) regular US citizens support meddling like that in other countries. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:900388591] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>Not many (or especially not all or most of us) regular US citizens support meddling like that in other countries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 04/27/18 7:05:38 AM #12:	This is why I found the whole thing ironic haha. --- http://i.imgur.com/OlAyuQb.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KnLuqux.jpg <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:900388651] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>This is why I found the whole thing ironic haha.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 04/27/18 7:40:26 AM #13:	COVxy posted... I don't know why you think people are unilaterally approving of their own country's actions. You can find both the US's and Russia's actions appalling. What I think is that there's a bit of a sense of superiority about this, and a bit of a bias, that people don't really realize that the US/EU are just as much bad guys as any other superpower. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:900389421] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know why you think people are unilaterally approving of their own country's actions. You can find both the US's and Russia's actions appalling.</quote> What I think is that there's a bit of a sense of superiority about this, and a bit of a bias, that people don't really realize that the US/EU are just as much bad guys as any other superpower.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ben1741 04/27/18 7:41:54 AM #14:	scar the 1 posted... COVxy posted... I don't know why you think people are unilaterally approving of their own country's actions. You can find both the US's and Russia's actions appalling. What I think is that there's a bit of a sense of superiority about this, and a bit of a bias, that people don't really realize that the US/EU are just as much bad guys as any other superpower. The us is the hero. They provide freedom and justice to those who need it. --- a Proper Society and it's Functions. <cite>ben1741 posted [p:900389453] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know why you think people are unilaterally approving of their own country's actions. You can find both the US's and Russia's actions appalling.</quote> What I think is that there's a bit of a sense of superiority about this, and a bit of a bias, that people don't really realize that the US/EU are just as much bad guys as any other superpower.</quote> The us is the hero. They provide freedom and justice to those who need it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 04/27/18 7:57:49 AM #15:	There's nothing weird about wanting integrity in your country's electoral process. As a citizen, it's not as if they/we were patsies to the tactics employed in Washington and it makes no sense to punish the citizens and have a more corrupt government because of such things. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:900389837] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>There's nothing weird about wanting integrity in your country's electoral process. As a citizen, it's not as if they/we were patsies to the tactics employed in Washington and it makes no sense to punish the citizens and have a more corrupt government because of such things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 04/27/18 7:59:48 AM #16:	scar the 1 posted... Isn't it a little hypocritical to talk of "Land of the Free" when you have a history of financing the overthrow of democratic leaders to install military dictatorships? No. One has nothing to do with the other. --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg <cite>whitelytning posted [p:900389887] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Isn't it a little hypocritical to talk of "Land of the Free" when you have a history of financing the overthrow of democratic leaders to install military dictatorships?</quote> No. One has nothing to do with the other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Serious Cat 04/27/18 8:06:52 AM #17:	It's not hypocritical for a country to act in its own best interests in its foreign affairs while rejecting the same type of action against it by foreign agents. (And before we start delving into specifics, I'm not convinced that every action taken by the US is in the best interest of its citizens.) --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:900390036] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>It's not hypocritical for a country to act in its own best interests in its foreign affairs while rejecting the same type of action against it by foreign agents. (And before we start delving into specifics, I'm not convinced that every action taken by the US is in the best interest of its citizens.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/27/18 8:16:34 AM #18:	What a dumb topic. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:900390274] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>What a dumb topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 04/27/18 8:16:48 AM #19:	Punching someone in the face feels better than getting punched in the face. Hence the outrage. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:900390287] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>Punching someone in the face feels better than getting punched in the face. Hence the outrage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 04/27/18 8:19:30 AM #20:	Heineken14 posted... What a dumb topic. --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:900390360] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote><cite>Heineken14 posted...</cite> <quote>What a dumb topic.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/27/18 8:26:38 AM #21:	scar the 1 posted... So why is it such a shock and such an outrage when the Russians do it? :thinking: because we want to be the predator, not the prey. and we believe we have the resources to do something about that. the outrage is mainly at those who say "no, being prey is fine. since it helped our group and hurt yours." --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:900390541] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>So why is it such a shock and such an outrage when the Russians do it? :thinking: </quote> because we want to be the predator, not the prey. and we believe we have the resources to do something about that. the outrage is mainly at those who say "no, being prey is fine. since it helped our group and hurt yours."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WesternMedia 04/29/18 3:22:59 AM #22:	Cambridge did it too https://www.channel4.com/news/exposed-undercover-secrets-of-donald-trump-data-firm-cambridge-analytica --- Cherish me <cite>WesternMedia posted [p:900497953] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>Cambridge did it too https://www.channel4.com/news/exposed-undercover-secrets-of-donald-trump-data-firm-cambridge-analytica</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JTilly 05/01/18 6:09:40 AM #24:	Liberals are crybabies, in other news --- WittleJimmyJimmyjumper <cite>JTilly posted [p:900609678] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>Liberals are crybabies, in other news</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinksLiege 05/03/18 4:06:07 AM #26:	Anteaterking posted... I've never said that the countries whose elections we meddle in don't have the right to get mad at us. Yeah, I love this idea that we're only allowed to object to one instance of it. Only one. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. <cite>LinksLiege posted [p:900720023] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>I've never said that the countries whose elections we meddle in don't have the right to get mad at us.</quote> Yeah, I love this idea that we're only allowed to object to one instance of it. Only one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WesternMedia 05/05/18 12:17:36 AM #27:	cambridge did it too https://www.channel4.com/news/exposed-undercover-secrets-of-donald-trump-data-firm-cambridge-analytica --- Cherish me <cite>WesternMedia posted [p:900822424] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>cambridge did it too https://www.channel4.com/news/exposed-undercover-secrets-of-donald-trump-data-firm-cambridge-analytica</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WesternMedia 05/07/18 6:21:11 AM #28:	cambridge did it too https://www.channel4.com/news/exposed-undercover-secrets-of-donald-trump-data-firm-cambridge-analytica --- Cherish me <cite>WesternMedia posted [p:900931453] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>cambridge did it too https://www.channel4.com/news/exposed-undercover-secrets-of-donald-trump-data-firm-cambridge-analytica</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/07/18 6:27:44 AM #29:	Why do you keep deleting your posts to repost that? --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:900931563] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote>Why do you keep deleting your posts to repost that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Polycosm 05/07/18 6:33:27 AM #30:	Kineth posted... There's nothing weird about wanting integrity in your country's electoral process. --- BKSheikah owned me so thoroughly in the 2017 guru contest, I'd swear he used the Lens of Truth to pick his bracket. (thengamer.com/guru) <cite>Polycosm posted [p:900931649] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>There's nothing weird about wanting integrity in your country's electoral process.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WesternMedia 05/09/18 6:55:25 AM #31:	Kineth posted... Why do you keep deleting your posts to repost that? cambridge did it too https://www.channel4.com/news/exposed-undercover-secrets-of-donald-trump-data-firm-cambridge-analytica --- Cherish me <cite>WesternMedia posted [p:901045252] in Isn't it a... [t:76550760]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Why do you keep deleting your posts to repost that?</quote> cambridge did it too https://www.channel4.com/news/exposed-undercover-secrets-of-donald-trump-data-firm-cambridge-analytica</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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