Current Events > Why do you think anti-intellectualism won the right the 2016 election?

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COVxy
05/11/18 8:08:30 PM
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Such a strange phenomenon.
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Blue_Dream87
05/11/18 8:11:28 PM
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Fin_Dawg_004
05/11/18 8:12:23 PM
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internet, meme and troll culture
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Doom_Art
05/11/18 8:12:52 PM
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I don't know what caused it. Like what the root of it is.

Was it really as simple as backlash from Obama? Was it stuff like Gamergate and whatnot normalizing this sort of attitude towards things?

Iunno man
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Kazi1212
05/11/18 8:13:38 PM
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Because of people like you would be my guess
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__aCEr__
05/11/18 8:15:03 PM
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I would say it was the typical result of disliking the incumbent party but that doesn't explain why Donald Trump ended up being the GOP candidate.
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Sphyx
05/11/18 8:16:55 PM
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The Unlikeable Force vs The Intolerable Object.
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Prestoff
05/11/18 8:17:29 PM
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When your choices suck...

Sphyx posted...
The Unlikeable Force vs The Intolerable Object.


Can I steal this?
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C_Pain
05/11/18 8:18:10 PM
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Trump was the smart choice

very stable genius
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halomonkey1_3_5
05/11/18 8:18:14 PM
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feels over reals
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Doom_Art
05/11/18 8:18:28 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Because of people like you would be my guess

You Trump folks are going to at some point need to develop more intelligent statements than a vague "this is why Trump won"

__aCEr__ posted...
I would say it was the typical result of disliking the incumbent party but that doesn't explain why Donald Trump ended up being the GOP candidate.

Yeah I understand the GOP winning but I'll never understand why people rallied around a 70 year old obese c-list reality TV star with anger problems who compulsively lies about everything.

Like why him and why to the obsessive degree that they did
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HiddenLurker
05/11/18 8:20:23 PM
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"Vote for me else you are racist, islamphobic, stupid, deplorable, Nazi, white supremace, sexist, and etc...."

I'm sorry but no just no.
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Funbazooka
05/11/18 8:22:58 PM
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Yes, keep calling them anti-intellectual and every other insult in the book. Keep shooting yourself in the foot.
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Doom_Art
05/11/18 8:24:18 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
Yes, keep calling them anti-intellectual and every other insult in the book. Keep shooting yourself in the foot.

what does this even mean
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Kazi1212
05/11/18 8:24:51 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
Yes, keep calling them anti-intellectual and every other insult in the book. Keep shooting yourself in the foot.


Nonsense, people love being insulted, its a great persuasion tactic.
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Funbazooka
05/11/18 8:25:41 PM
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Because it's just encouraging more and more Republicans to get out the vote. It doesn't necessarily energize Democrats to get out the vote.
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COVxy
05/11/18 8:25:58 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
Yes, keep calling them anti-intellectual and every other insult in the book. Keep shooting yourself in the foot.


Or, you know, the direct anti-intellectual rhetoric, the overlap between Trump and Brexit, and the clear split of the vote based on education.

But no, calling it like it is is an insult.
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Doom_Art
05/11/18 8:26:15 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
Because it's just encouraging more and more Republicans to get out the vote

...?
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Funbazooka
05/11/18 8:28:12 PM
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You know, get out and vote.
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Doom_Art
05/11/18 8:29:33 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
You know, get out and vote.

IIRC the number of Republican voters in 2016 is almost the same as 2012

so it didn't really do anything
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Vertania
05/11/18 8:30:06 PM
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Remember, CE, voting against a party who was literally caught rigging their own primaries makes you an anti-intellectual.
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Doom_Art
05/11/18 8:32:13 PM
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Vertania posted...
Remember, CE, voting against a party who was literally caught rigging their own primaries makes you an anti-intellectual.

no being anti-intellectual makes you anti-intellectual
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Kazi1212
05/11/18 8:33:52 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Vertania posted...
Remember, CE, voting against a party who was literally caught rigging their own primaries makes you an anti-intellectual.

no being anti-intellectual makes you anti-intellectual


What about all the known intellectuals that supports Trump? Do you deem them anti intellectual for supporting him?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/492752/
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Funbazooka
05/11/18 8:34:01 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Funbazooka posted...
You know, get out and vote.

IIRC the number of Republican voters in 2016 is almost the same as 2012

so it didn't really do anything

That very well could be the case but it's beside the point. Clearly the Republican voter base was more energized than the Democratic voters, which has immense bearing on who wins the election.
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Damn_Underscore
05/11/18 8:34:34 PM
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Pokemon Go to the polls
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YellowSUV
05/11/18 8:34:51 PM
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Because America is full of morons.
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Doom_Art
05/11/18 8:35:31 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
That very well could be the case but it's beside the point.

Not really. Your point was that it was encouraging more and more Republicans to get out and vote. That clearly is not the case
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REMercsChamp
05/11/18 8:36:09 PM
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I see the TC is learning some big boy words in grad school
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A_Good_Boy
05/11/18 8:37:40 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Vertania posted...
Remember, CE, voting against a party who was literally caught rigging their own primaries makes you an anti-intellectual.

no being anti-intellectual makes you anti-intellectual


What about all the known intellectuals that supports Trump? Do you deem them anti intellectual for supporting him?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/492752/

Did you even read this article? If you did, did you notice how it applied names to the intellectuals that didn't support Trump but it didn't apply any names at all to the ones that did support him, despite constantly appealing to their supposedly large number?

Pretty interesting stuff in that article.
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Funbazooka
05/11/18 8:37:41 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Funbazooka posted...
That very well could be the case but it's beside the point.

Not really. Your point was that it was encouraging more and more Republicans to get out and vote. That clearly is not the case

Yes, comparatively to the Democrats. Which has been my point all along.
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Doom_Art
05/11/18 8:39:41 PM
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But that wasn't your point. Your point was that it was encouraging more and more Republicans to come out when that is not true
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Kazi1212
05/11/18 8:39:52 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Funbazooka posted...
That very well could be the case but it's beside the point.

Not really. Your point was that it was encouraging more and more Republicans to get out and vote. That clearly is not the case


Um, how do you know it clearly wasnt the case? Its very possible Republican turnout would have been lower than 2012 if crooked Hillary didnt run to encourage them to vote against her. That doesnt seem too unreasonable of an opinion
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Frolex
05/11/18 8:40:22 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
I see the TC is learning some big boy words in grad school


If i thought you were capable of self-awareness, i'd be laughing with you about proving TC's point rather than at you
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Funbazooka
05/11/18 8:40:37 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
But that wasn't your point. Your point was that it was encouraging more and more Republicans to come out when that is not true

I never said more Republicans compared to past elections. That's your strawman.
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Antifar
05/11/18 8:40:50 PM
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"People don't like to be insulted" is a weird defense of voting for Donald Trump

But at any rate, anti-intellectualism was not a new arrival to the party with Trump in 2016. We're talking about the party of Sarah Palin, Jim Inhoffe, and Rick Santorum.
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Funbazooka
05/11/18 8:42:14 PM
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People who didn't vote for McCain because he ran with Palin are misogynist. They were afraid of a woman ever becoming vice president.
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__aCEr__
05/11/18 8:42:22 PM
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It will be an election that will be talked about for a very long time. It really shouldn't have happened. But it did happen. So who was wrong? Was ANYBODY wrong? Was there a shift? Shifted towards what since there isn't a clear course with Trump?
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Antifar
05/11/18 8:43:14 PM
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__aCEr__ posted...
Was ANYBODY wrong?

A lot of people were wrong.
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Doom_Art
05/11/18 8:43:30 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
I never said more Republicans compared to past elections.

Funbazooka posted...
Because it's just encouraging more and more Republicans to get out the vote.

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Cosmic_Diabetic
05/11/18 8:44:29 PM
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From what I'm seeing the biggest motive people voted for Trump is out of spite.

Think about that. People will actually vote someone to be the ruler of the free world for no other reason than to spite someone else they don't agree with politically....
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Kineth
05/11/18 8:44:56 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
Because it's just encouraging more and more Republicans to get out the vote. It doesn't necessarily energize Democrats to get out the vote.


Man, fuck you and fuck Republicans. Y'all speak about others so disrespectfully and then expect or rather demand respect?

Let me repeat myself. Fuck you and fuck Republicans.
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Doom_Art
05/11/18 8:45:50 PM
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Yeah the whole "you better walk on eggshells and be nice to us or else" rhetoric from Trump supporters is weird as hell
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Fin_Dawg_004
05/11/18 8:46:53 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Yes, keep calling them anti-intellectual and every other insult in the book. Keep shooting yourself in the foot.

what does this even mean


"stop calling us dumb or we'll keep proving you right!"

basically
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Kazi1212
05/11/18 8:47:21 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Funbazooka posted...
I never said more Republicans compared to past elections.

Funbazooka posted...
Because it's just encouraging more and more Republicans to get out the vote.


ITP: Saying that vile discourse from the left encouraging Republicans to go out and vote for the 2016 election must necessarily mean the claim is comparing Republican turnout of past elections. Great logical deduction
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ledbowman
05/11/18 8:47:44 PM
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Because people had Benghazi drilled into their heads for years.
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Funbazooka
05/11/18 8:47:46 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Funbazooka posted...
I never said more Republicans compared to past elections.

Funbazooka posted...
Because it's just encouraging more and more Republicans to get out the vote.

Yes, you're strawmanning me. Twisting my words to say something I didn't say.
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Funbazooka
05/11/18 8:48:43 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Funbazooka posted...
I never said more Republicans compared to past elections.

Funbazooka posted...
Because it's just encouraging more and more Republicans to get out the vote.


ITP: Saying that vile discourse from the left encouraging Republicans to go out and vote for the 2016 election must necessarily mean the claim is comparing Republican turnout of past elections. Great logical deduction

Thank you. Obviously the context is about the 2016 election and the next election. They know it too.
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