Current Events > Why was the US embassy moved to Jerusalem?

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What was the reason?
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Neo-cons.
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Because fuck Palestine A good reason really
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because it is the capital of Israel?

Making America great again.
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Hicks233 posted...

Neo-cons.

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Because it's the historical, cultural, religious, and therefore de facto capital of Isral.
The more direct reason however was to void any future claims from the so-called palestinian "authority" as their "capital" (allegedly because it contains some supposedly holy islamic locations, which is utter fallacy since Hebrews have been there long before that) in the eventuality of any future palestinian "state". Which, considering Hamas' supporters recent violent behaviour of attacking the border and attempting to illegally enter Isral, is highly unlikely in the foreseeable 100 years.
@Zodd3224
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So it's a good thing?
The Palestinians are the bad guys?
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dezmomo posted...

The Palestinians are the bad guys?

Pretty much. Their political leaders are part of a terrorist party and they regularly fire rockets into Israel. Not to mention their soldiers hide in schools and hospitals.
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dezmomo posted...

So it's a good thing?
The Palestinians are the bad guys?

It's a matter of context. Palestinians have as much right as anyone to leave in peace, prosper and the whole shazam. But certainly not via the destruction of Israel, as they are manipulated into wishing. They must accept that Israel is there and it won't go anywhere else, and they do not have the means to militarily defeat it. They are certainly not inherently evil. The problem is that pretty much all the Arab rulers promised them something they knew impossible, their right to return after they massively emigrated post-1948 and the creation of the modern State of Israel.
And these leaders kept fuelling this impossible endeavour, and fuelled their hatred for Israel and Jews in general, and another tragedy is that they ended up putting in power an outright terrorist organisation (Hamas), ruling the Gaza strip with an iron fist, and literally keeping the very palestinians in Gaza under outright terror. They are the ones orchestrating these so-called "protests", who aren't peaceful in the least, to provoke Israel, who, they know, will rightfully retaliate, which creates "martyrs" for the cause, so more hatred and yada yada.
So, short version, between Hamas who are islamist fascists, and the Fatah in the West Bank lead by Abou Mazen (Mahmud Abbas) who is quite possibly the most corrupt leader in the history of the PLO (Fatah is the modernised PLO), I fail to see who has the honest will to lead them to peace. They amply demonstrated they don't really want it, at Camp David. Unfortunately.
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Gotta get the apocalypse started somehow. That's on the checklist.
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dezmomo posted...

So it's a good thing?
The Palestinians are the bad guys?

Yes
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dezmomo posted...

So it's a good thing?
The Palestinians are the bad guys?

Yup they routinely harbor terrorist organizations such as Hamas and the PLO. They use women and children as human shields and manufacture explosives inside of churches and hospitals.

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Fuck Israel and their illegal occupation of Palestinian land.
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DavidWong posted...

Fuck Israel and their illegal occupation of Palestinian land.

Could I get a bit of info on your background or why you think this way?
eg Are you American?

I'm aware that this is largely an American website.
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Fuck israel and fuck palestine too
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dezmomo posted...

DavidWong posted...

Fuck Israel and their illegal occupation of Palestinian land.

Could I get a bit of info on your background or why you think this way?
eg Are you American?

I'm aware that this is largely an American website.

Australian.

Because Israel are violating Geneva conventions with occupying land which they moved into during war.
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dezmomo posted...

So it's a good thing?
The Palestinians are the bad guys?

It's complicated. Many promises have been made, deals broken, diplomatic overtures rejected, borders redrawn, and needless acts of cruelty committed. Israel has historically played more defense than offense, but they've overstepped at times. Palestinians, on the other hand, are living in desperation and destitution. Consequently, the Palestinians resort to more desperate acts of protest and war; from their vantage point, that's the only way they can fight back against the might of Israel. This has also made the Palestinians more susceptible to extremist ideologies.

I tend to side with Israel. But the Palestinians aren't inherently evil, and this isn't some religious war that goes back thousands of years as some people would have you believe. 2/3rds of the Palestinian population is under the age of 25 and weren't even alive for the First Intifada. They aren't bad-- they were just born into a conflict of their ancestors' making and there are no easy ways out.
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