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DiegoSanchez206
05/18/18 12:17:53 PM
#51:


Funkydog posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Keep crying. Its a fucking debt.

I'm not crying. Just telling you that you are a piece of shit for mocking/dismissing suicide.

Im not dismissing suicide. If you want to kill your self over a debt, youre a weakling and should get help.

If you have actual problems then I hope you get the help you need.

I dont want anyone to kill themselves.

Keep crying.
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ArchiePeck
05/18/18 12:19:49 PM
#52:


Surely he'll just declare bankruptcy. BAM - debt gone.
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hollow_shrine
05/18/18 12:21:25 PM
#53:


babyeatermax posted...
If only people got this angry at Scott Pruitt and his minions fucking up the environment on purpose

When I have trouble staying hard, I imagine Pruitt getting fired from the EPA, returning to Oklahoma, getting arrested here on similar corruption charges, and spending the final years of his life rotting in Oklahoma county.

I sincerely hope we'll get to see him crushed beneath the wheels of his own karma.
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Duncanwii
05/18/18 12:22:49 PM
#54:


Doesn't the eighth amendment prevent these kinds of thing from happening? I thought the government wasn't allowed to issue excessive fines?
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Paragon21XX
05/18/18 12:23:15 PM
#55:


Forest fires are a very natural part of the ecosystem and usually never reach that scale unless the park constantly suppresses all fires that start and fails to do controlled burns in exchange to remove fuel sources on a periodic basis. Not saying the kid is not at fault as he was most certainly being reckless with fireworks, but the park service should share some of the blame for not taking proper measures to reduce the potential severity of any unexpected fire in their forest by safely burning up dead foliage.
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DiegoSanchez206
05/18/18 12:39:29 PM
#56:


Duncanwii posted...
Doesn't the eighth amendment prevent these kinds of thing from happening? I thought the government wasn't allowed to issue excessive fines?

Restitution isnt excessive. Its tallied at 37 mil and he only has to pay like 115k.

Thats a drop in the bucket for as much damage as he caused.
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RE_expert44
05/18/18 12:41:02 PM
#57:


DirkDiggles posted...
That's a lot of lawns to mow.

He found a more efficient way of removing foliage from the sounds of it
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chill02
05/18/18 12:42:58 PM
#58:


RE_expert44 posted...
DirkDiggles posted...
That's a lot of lawns to mow.

He found a more efficient way of removing foliage from the sounds of it


LMAO
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darkjedilink
05/18/18 12:43:37 PM
#59:


meestermj posted...
I've never understood the purpose of demanding ridiculous amounts in fines/restitution. It'll NEVER be paid. Hell they'll be lucky if he's able to pay back even 10k.

The whole point of restitution is you're literally paying for what you fucked up. If you can't afford to pay $37 Million to rebuild a forest, don't burn the fucking forest down.

Simple fucking concept.
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UltraDeku
05/18/18 12:43:54 PM
#60:


I'd hate to be him
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darkjedilink
05/18/18 12:45:17 PM
#61:


Duncanwii posted...
Doesn't the eighth amendment prevent these kinds of thing from happening? I thought the government wasn't allowed to issue excessive fines?

It literally isn't a fine. He's being forced to pay for what he destroyed.

The Eight Amendment doesn't absolve you of responsibility for wanton destruction.
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chollima
05/18/18 12:45:29 PM
#62:


DiegoSanchez206 posted...
chollima posted...
Kid plays with firework. Accident happens. Somebody wants $37 million.

Only in America.

Yeah he put loves at risk by being a fucking idiot and destroyed the environment single handidly.

Hes not serving time. He owes money. Get fucked.


37 million?
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darkjedilink
05/18/18 12:46:13 PM
#63:


chollima posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
chollima posted...
Kid plays with firework. Accident happens. Somebody wants $37 million.

Only in America.

Yeah he put loves at risk by being a fucking idiot and destroyed the environment single handidly.

Hes not serving time. He owes money. Get fucked.

37 million?

It's going to cost that much to fix what he fucked up.
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tremain07
05/18/18 12:46:33 PM
#64:


Kid makes a mistake that destroys things, he's punished accordingly
Corrupt government officials do this kind of thing willingly= set up for life

I know life isn't fair and all but shit do I hate how much of an injustice this is.
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Tyranthraxus
05/18/18 12:46:53 PM
#65:


DragonGirlYuki posted...
He will probably end up in bankruptcy court next.

Oh no his credit is ruined until... 22 years old! He might have to pay OOP for community college!
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TheVipaGTS
05/18/18 12:49:23 PM
#66:


Fucked for life.
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chollima
05/18/18 12:50:15 PM
#67:


darkjedilink posted...
chollima posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
chollima posted...
Kid plays with firework. Accident happens. Somebody wants $37 million.

Only in America.

Yeah he put loves at risk by being a fucking idiot and destroyed the environment single handidly.

Hes not serving time. He owes money. Get fucked.

37 million?

It's going to cost that much to fix what he fucked up.


Yeah, I assumed that. What I'm interested in is if the "get fucked" poster really thinks a kid should pay 37 million.
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darkjedilink
05/18/18 12:50:52 PM
#68:


chollima posted...
darkjedilink posted...
chollima posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
chollima posted...
Kid plays with firework. Accident happens. Somebody wants $37 million.

Only in America.

Yeah he put loves at risk by being a fucking idiot and destroyed the environment single handidly.

Hes not serving time. He owes money. Get fucked.

37 million?

It's going to cost that much to fix what he fucked up.

Yeah, I assumed that. What I'm interested in is if the "get fucked" poster really thinks a kid should pay 37 million.

Why shouldn't he pay it?
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chill02
05/18/18 12:50:55 PM
#69:


chollima posted...
darkjedilink posted...
chollima posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
chollima posted...
Kid plays with firework. Accident happens. Somebody wants $37 million.

Only in America.

Yeah he put loves at risk by being a fucking idiot and destroyed the environment single handidly.

Hes not serving time. He owes money. Get fucked.

37 million?

It's going to cost that much to fix what he fucked up.


Yeah, I assumed that. What I'm interested in is if the "get fucked" poster really thinks a kid should pay 37 million.

yes
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StucklnMyPants
05/18/18 12:51:04 PM
#70:


KainWind posted...
I feel partly responsible since I'm the only one who can prevent forest fires and I did nothing.

Underrated post.
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Darklit_Minuet
05/18/18 12:51:38 PM
#71:


DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
Doesn't the eighth amendment prevent these kinds of thing from happening? I thought the government wasn't allowed to issue excessive fines?

Restitution isnt excessive. Its tallied at 37 mil and he only has to pay like 115k.

Thats a drop in the bucket for as much damage as he caused.

"Instead of having to pay an insanely ridiculous amount of money, you just have to pay an extremely ridiculous amount of money"

If both sums are more than the average person will earn in their lifetime, there's essentially no difference between the two. Might as well charge him a hundred billion trillion dollars
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DragonGirlYuki
05/18/18 12:52:24 PM
#72:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Oh no his credit is ruined until... 22 years old! He might have to pay OOP for community college!

That is why it isn't necessarily the end of the world for him.
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chollima
05/18/18 12:53:20 PM
#73:


darkjedilink posted...
chollima posted...
darkjedilink posted...
chollima posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
chollima posted...
Kid plays with firework. Accident happens. Somebody wants $37 million.

Only in America.

Yeah he put loves at risk by being a fucking idiot and destroyed the environment single handidly.

Hes not serving time. He owes money. Get fucked.

37 million?

It's going to cost that much to fix what he fucked up.

Yeah, I assumed that. What I'm interested in is if the "get fucked" poster really thinks a kid should pay 37 million.

Why shouldn't he pay it?


Because he can't?
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chill02
05/18/18 12:53:37 PM
#74:


chollima posted...
darkjedilink posted...
chollima posted...
darkjedilink posted...
chollima posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
chollima posted...
Kid plays with firework. Accident happens. Somebody wants $37 million.

Only in America.

Yeah he put loves at risk by being a fucking idiot and destroyed the environment single handidly.

Hes not serving time. He owes money. Get fucked.

37 million?

It's going to cost that much to fix what he fucked up.

Yeah, I assumed that. What I'm interested in is if the "get fucked" poster really thinks a kid should pay 37 million.

Why shouldn't he pay it?


Because he can't?

not with that attitude
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_wwKd_
05/18/18 12:55:57 PM
#75:


Good. Fuck that kid. His group should have shared the punishment as well.

Y'all don't remember the report?

A group of teens were doing this. Throwing fireworks up and shit.

The fire started and the kids walked down the path acting like it's alright.

The witness called the cops and the teens in a van tried to bail.
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FluttershyPony
05/18/18 12:57:54 PM
#76:


yeah sure let me just get a 5000 year payable loan for that 37 million, gimme a sec.
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darkjedilink
05/18/18 1:00:07 PM
#77:


chollima posted...
darkjedilink posted...
chollima posted...
darkjedilink posted...
chollima posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
chollima posted...
Kid plays with firework. Accident happens. Somebody wants $37 million.

Only in America.

Yeah he put loves at risk by being a fucking idiot and destroyed the environment single handidly.

Hes not serving time. He owes money. Get fucked.

37 million?

It's going to cost that much to fix what he fucked up.

Yeah, I assumed that. What I'm interested in is if the "get fucked" poster really thinks a kid should pay 37 million.

Why shouldn't he pay it?

Because he can't?

Then maybe he shouldn't have burned the fucking forest down.
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chollima
05/18/18 1:01:02 PM
#78:


Lol, okay. Got you.
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C_Pain
05/18/18 1:01:36 PM
#79:


I feel kinda bad. Like he's 15 and also he was playing with fireworks, cuz it's fun. Maybe a few trees would go on fire but not all that. You don't expect it.
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gunplagirl
05/18/18 1:03:13 PM
#80:


After the week of literally not being able to breathe without choking? Yeah, fuck that kid. He knows what he did and didn't try to report it himself. He dug his own grave and can lay in it.
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chill02
05/18/18 1:03:49 PM
#81:


gunplagirl posted...
After the week of literally not being able to breathe without choking? Yeah, fuck that kid. He knows what he did and didn't try to report it himself. He dug his own grave and can lay in it.


I could smell the smoke all the way out in Hillsboro
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Solid Sonic
05/18/18 1:03:53 PM
#82:


That...is a lot of money.
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TheCyborgNinja
05/18/18 1:04:53 PM
#83:


They need to make the fines for these kinds of things so insane (and unwelchable) that the person would probably prefer to die instead. At that point, you know they've been punished. None of this "but... feelings!" crap like they have here....
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Solid Sonic
05/18/18 1:06:31 PM
#85:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
They need to make the fines for these kinds of things so insane (and unwelchable) that the person would probably prefer to die instead. At that point, you know they've been punished. None of this "but... feelings!" crap like they have here....

Death is always a good option.
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Konflikt
05/18/18 1:08:41 PM
#86:


DiegoSanchez206 posted...
BloodyNate posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Funkydog posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Jesus dude. Its not like he will give ever check to the government. Itll most likely be garnished from his checks. Sucks. He fucked up, but to contemplate suicide is pretty dramatic.

When people get over their head like this, it's not like suicide is unheard of.


Smh we just raise weaklings then. He will owe more than that by just going to college and being an adult.


A) Fuck your toxic opinion
B) How much do you think college costs, or how much average debt Americans have?


Homes cost more than 114k you fucking goof.


In other words you don't understand basic math

gotcha
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sktgamer_13dude
05/18/18 1:10:55 PM
#87:


Kids will be kids only works when they dont destroy the habitat to the tune of $37m.

Fuck this kid. Put a lot of lives in danger by being a moron.
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darkjedilink
05/18/18 1:12:40 PM
#88:


C_Pain posted...
I feel kinda bad. Like he's 15 and also he was playing with fireworks, cuz it's fun. Maybe a few trees would go on fire but not all that. You don't expect it.

You don't really believe that, do you?
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C_Pain
05/18/18 1:13:56 PM
#89:


darkjedilink posted...
C_Pain posted...
I feel kinda bad. Like he's 15 and also he was playing with fireworks, cuz it's fun. Maybe a few trees would go on fire but not all that. You don't expect it.

You don't really believe that, do you?

I do. I feel like people get so mad at the outcomes of things. When you're in the moment you don't anticipate the consequences, especially that they will be huge. Humans aren't designed for that.
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teepan95
05/18/18 1:17:07 PM
#90:


ITT: the amount of money requested by the authorities is an accurate assessment of the damage and in no way have they artificially inflated anything


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Panthera
05/18/18 1:19:10 PM
#91:


C_Pain posted...
darkjedilink posted...
C_Pain posted...
I feel kinda bad. Like he's 15 and also he was playing with fireworks, cuz it's fun. Maybe a few trees would go on fire but not all that. You don't expect it.

You don't really believe that, do you?

I do. I feel like people get so mad at the outcomes of things. When you're in the moment you don't anticipate the consequences, especially that they will be huge. Humans aren't designed for that.


When I was 15 years old I understood that fire burned things and that risking people's lives for my amusement was wrong. People are mad at the outcome because this kid and his friends decided to do something they had every reason to know was stupid and dangerous and in the process fucked with the lives of dozens or hundreds of other people.
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DiegoSanchez206
05/18/18 1:23:29 PM
#92:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
Doesn't the eighth amendment prevent these kinds of thing from happening? I thought the government wasn't allowed to issue excessive fines?

Restitution isnt excessive. Its tallied at 37 mil and he only has to pay like 115k.

Thats a drop in the bucket for as much damage as he caused.

"Instead of having to pay an insanely ridiculous amount of money, you just have to pay an extremely ridiculous amount of money"

If both sums are more than the average person will earn in their lifetime, there's essentially no difference between the two. Might as well charge him a hundred billion trillion dollars


Imagine not earning 115k in a lifetime.

Imagine not having to be responsible and pay for what you fuck up.
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DiegoSanchez206
05/18/18 1:25:36 PM
#93:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
They need to make the fines for these kinds of things so insane (and unwelchable) that the person would probably prefer to die instead. At that point, you know they've been punished. None of this "but... feelings!" crap like they have here....

Its not a fine. Its restituiton and not even close to 5% of the destruction he caused.
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DiegoSanchez206
05/18/18 1:26:38 PM
#94:


teepan95 posted...
ITT: the amount of money requested by the authorities is an accurate assessment of the damage and in no way have they artificially inflated anything


You really dont think there was 115k worth of damage done?
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teepan95
05/18/18 1:35:38 PM
#95:


DiegoSanchez206 posted...
teepan95 posted...
ITT: the amount of money requested by the authorities is an accurate assessment of the damage and in no way have they artificially inflated anything


You really dont think there was 115k worth of damage done?

Did the authorities request 115k?
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Pitlord_Special
05/18/18 1:44:54 PM
#96:


Kid should be made a debt slave until its fully repaid. Should also charge interest on the debt at fair market value. Hopefully a way to transfer consciousness into an artificial body is invented during his lifetime so he can be enslaved in perpetuity (cost of the body and procedure added to his debt)
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OldSnakeLiveon8
05/18/18 1:46:59 PM
#97:


37 million for some fucking trees. What kinda of socalist hell are we living in
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LightHawKnight
05/18/18 2:51:43 PM
#98:


OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...
37 million for some fucking trees. What kinda of socalist hell are we living in


Trees, hiking paths, property, and the loss of money for the whole place being closed down till stuff regrows.
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do_ob_tpkillr
05/18/18 3:04:41 PM
#99:


Should've demanded the full 37 mil and make him a debt slave pauper for life.
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Darklit_Minuet
05/18/18 3:34:46 PM
#100:


DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Imagine not earning 115k in a lifetime.

Well I'm sorry we're not all 1%ers with our own personal yachts like you are

DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Imagine not having to be responsible and pay for what you fuck up.

Nobody should have to pay, a company should restore everything for free to generate good will
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