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scarletspeed7
05/28/18 2:43:11 PM
#151:


Funaki's stable grows stronger yet.
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ExThaNemesis
05/28/18 2:50:52 PM
#152:


Strife2 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZU-mfotJ8o" data-time="


Why is this not McIntyre's theme again?


because it's dull and boring!

I really do think they should do a callback to it on his new theme though. Continuity like that is always dope.
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Jakyl25
05/28/18 3:15:40 PM
#153:


voltch posted...
Io finally signs with WWE.

When Mayu retires from her reckless style Stardom won't have any real draws left.


Hey you saw how popular Tam Nakano is
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Jakyl25
05/28/18 3:16:25 PM
#154:


Hardcore_Adult posted...
ffmasterjose posted...
I'm a pleb who only watches WWE but it's obvious even to me that Ricochet doesn't need to be in NXT.


Probably for the best (for now) because they have record of bed-shitting with Main Roster acts in the last few years bar Rusev, KO and Sami.


Its sad that those are the GOOD examples
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StealThisSheen
05/28/18 3:28:22 PM
#155:


WWE refuses to deviate from its plan... Ever.

Miz was hot and they squandered it.
KO and Sami were hot and they squandered it.
Braun was hot and they squandered it.
Rusev was hot and they're squandering it.

They should be pouncing on it when people organically get over and as somebody who endures week after week, it's killing my soul that they don't.
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StealThisSheen
05/28/18 3:30:59 PM
#156:


Like, ugh Corbin, I know... But that week when KO and Sami were attacking people and the dude just kept getting up and coming back to fight them throughout the whole show, the crowd was white hot for him. The crowd ate it up, and in that moment, you had the crowd loving Baron Corbin. How do you not capitalize on that? You could atleast have gotten a good few months out of him suddenly being the badass, unwilling face who just won't stop fighting and won't stay down. And yet... Nothing. They either failed to recognize it or just didn't care.
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Hardcore_Adult
05/28/18 3:48:43 PM
#157:


They fucked it up when they moved his ass to RAW.
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Strife2
05/28/18 5:19:32 PM
#158:


I'll play Devil's Advocate a rare time and see things from WWE's perspective.

1. Not everyone can be world champion, so stop it. stop it stop it stop it

What gets lost in this constant discussion is the idea that a guy needs to be "THE GUY!" in order to be successful. No, no, and no. Take Rusev. He was doing jobs to Orton in five seconds at Summerslam. After the Superstar Shakeup, he's main eventing with Bryan and AJ. He doesn't have to do that EVERY WEEK. He's in a better spot (he took Cass's probable spot in MITB), and while I would like...oh god 50 people or so to be champion, I would rather they be "featured" in better spots than sitting on the bench. Lana and Aiden pulled off the Lana Day thing last week to keep the act over, so Rusev didn't need to do squat. But it bleeds into the next points.

2. They have an embarrassment of riches.

At no other point in WWE history can I say, "this roster is loaded beyond belief." Outside of the absolute bottom tier guys, name any person in any feud who couldn't carry upper midcard/main event level feuds and matches. Sure, guys like Corbin, Jinder, and Cass are still lounging around as "experiments," but we're getting Daniel Bryan v. Samoa Joe tomorrow night. AJ Styles will be WWE Champion for 7 months straight heading into MITB. The wrestlers themselves are not the problem, because WWE has shitloads of those.

3. WWE works people in cycles/turns

You can see how WWE operates with people. Unless you do something absolutely dumb, you'll be given "something." A win, a feud, an "opportunity" (still hate that term though) at some point. But when you have 100-200 people wandering around, focusing on the same crop or having them win every single time should and will get old. But what can they do? You can't have Roman lose to "everybody." But they gave Strowman the chance, and he ran with it. Same with Balor two years ago.

No one is unbeatable...except Lesnar for some stupid reason. I'm not advocating 50/50 booking, but when you have so many people to deal with, I can imagine it'd be hard as hell to balance them all out to not only make fans happy, but to make the wrestlers themselves happy.
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Hardcore_Adult
05/28/18 5:29:26 PM
#159:


At this stage, I don't care if I never see the Universal Title again. Fuck that jinxed red piece of shit belt.
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Jakyl25
05/28/18 5:35:05 PM
#160:


I dont think theyve squandered Braun

Hes just in a holding pattern. He certainly hasnt been buried, hes just not doing anything exciting.

They can flip that switch at any time as long as he doesnt lose. People will be into it again.
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Mega Mana
05/28/18 5:35:26 PM
#161:


The strawberry fruit roll up of belts.
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Jakyl25
05/28/18 5:37:52 PM
#162:


Also I dont think you can squander Miz as long as he keeps getting screen time.

Like what else would you rather he be doing right now than being in MitB and trying to stir the pot for his opponents?
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StealThisSheen
05/28/18 5:41:20 PM
#163:


Fair enough point on Braun

As for Miz, I should probably clarify. I don't necessarily mean squandered as in buried him or anything. I moreso mean... He hasn't really been doing anything until MitB. Now it's a bit better, yeah, but before this he's been basically going out there every week and cutting the same promo for months because he hasn't really been doing anything but be in a holding pattern.

Granted, he was gold a few times with Rollins/Balor, so I can't really complain too much.
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StealThisSheen
05/28/18 5:43:16 PM
#164:


And I should also clarify. I do not at all mean push everybody to a title when they're hot or anything. But atleast give them a feud of significance or... Something. Don't just put them back to trading wins with Apollo Crews or whatever they were doing previously.
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Jakyl25
05/28/18 5:45:55 PM
#165:


I feel like theyre trying to turn Sami into Raws version of the Miz

Tell that to someone from 2014
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StealThisSheen
05/28/18 5:48:07 PM
#166:


Sami is so good at it and past me doesn't want to accept it
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Lopen
05/28/18 5:59:15 PM
#167:


I think being in a holding pattern is as damaging as anything they can do to bury a guy in most cases with WWE.
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Jakyl25
05/28/18 6:01:41 PM
#168:


The only things that really bother me from a big picture direction standpoint right now are both World Title scenes.

In an ideal world the tag titles would be unified, but thats my only other big change.

And then on a singular match level theres egregious stuff like Carmella beating Charlotte clean

But overall things are okay.
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Jakyl25
05/28/18 6:04:11 PM
#169:


Lopen posted...
I think being in a holding pattern is as damaging as anything they can do to bury a guy in most cases with WWE.


What else can you do in a 6-week PPV build against multiple opponents except having him start beating them individually each week?

The only other option would be to use Braun elsewhere outside MitB, but where? I suppose if you were a sane person you could book him to beat Roman for the next shot at Brock, but keep Roman strong is the WWE booking handicap
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Jakyl25
05/28/18 6:06:29 PM
#170:


You could have him answer the IC open challenge but thats a no-win situation
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Lopen
05/28/18 6:08:39 PM
#171:


I think a tool that's very underused in WWE programming is mini feuds that don't intend to culminate in a PPV match. There is no reason you need to hype a match like Money in the Bank for 6 weeks. You have all the build you need in like 2 segments.

1. Money in the Bank is a big deal
2. These guys are in Money in the Bank

You can draw step 2 out with stuff like qualifying matches, but you have all the intrigue you need in the stip and prize you don't need to harp on it every week. Give Braun something else to do that culminates in a Raw match a few weeks later
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Tom Bombadil
05/28/18 7:16:03 PM
#172:


voltch posted...
Io finally signs with WWE.


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Panthera
05/28/18 7:26:46 PM
#173:


Jakyl25 posted...
I dont think theyve squandered Braun

Hes just in a holding pattern. He certainly hasnt been buried, hes just not doing anything exciting.

They can flip that switch at any time as long as he doesnt lose. People will be into it again.


I don't know, I feel like the appeal is going to wear off at some point. Even if they had done more with him to this point it would hold true. There's only so many times you can see the same thing before it starts to lose its luster, and he's too limited to not have to keep doing the same thing.
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Whiskey_Nick
05/28/18 8:31:47 PM
#174:


Enzo Amore Announces Career Move into Rap Music
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X_Dante_X
05/28/18 8:36:34 PM
#175:


Lopen posted...
I think a tool that's very underused in WWE programming is mini feuds that don't intend to culminate in a PPV match.


this is what I thought they were planning on when samoa joe started railing on roman before GRR, but then they had a PPV match anyway.
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Jakyl25
05/28/18 8:38:06 PM
#176:


Just wait until each episode of SD makes more money than the B-show PPVs
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Whiskey_Nick
05/28/18 8:55:52 PM
#177:


Very close to a Benoit mention there Cole.... careful
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RaidenZeroX
05/28/18 9:14:55 PM
#178:


Rollins is the best thing about Raw right now.
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StealThisSheen
05/28/18 9:17:07 PM
#179:


So was Nia face for... what, a month or two?
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Strife2
05/28/18 9:20:55 PM
#180:


Technically two months.
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Jakyl25
05/28/18 9:34:33 PM
#181:


Come on WWE, just because shes the biggest woman on the roster doesnt mean you have to book her like Big Show
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StealThisSheen
05/28/18 10:15:22 PM
#182:


I'm just baffled how you follow up the whole Bliss feud with... Nia literally bullying somebody.

I mean, I know the answer is "Ronda has to be the clear face," but still
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Panthera
05/28/18 10:20:01 PM
#183:


Alexa was right all along! She tried to warn us but nobody believed her.
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ninkendo
05/28/18 10:33:35 PM
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ffmasterjose
05/29/18 2:57:48 AM
#185:


Whiskey_Nick posted...
Enzo Amore Announces Career Move into Rap Music


It gets better.

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Lopen
05/29/18 4:26:50 AM
#186:


A worse rapper than John Cena, R-Truth, Road Dogg, and Randy Savage.

Impressive.
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Tom Bombadil
05/29/18 7:01:06 AM
#187:


I thought he did a good job that one time I heard him rap in a promo

this one uh
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Hardcore_Adult
05/29/18 11:20:07 AM
#188:


Not the Worst RAW but still ploddy in places.
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RaidenZeroX
05/29/18 11:54:43 AM
#189:


Raw was Roman free last night. I was wondering why Braun opened the show.
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Hardcore_Adult
05/29/18 12:33:31 PM
#190:


Roman or no Roman, RAW's still see-saw.

Thank god for the ''Lesser'' brands.
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RaidenZeroX
05/29/18 12:50:24 PM
#191:


I can hear this conversation between Vince and Roman before Raw next week

<Vince> Okay Roman, we're going to have you open the show cutting a promo about how Brock is never here, and you're here busting your ass every week and getting held down by management
<Roman> I guess... If you say so... But you gave me the weekend off and I wasn't at Raw last week. Holiday weekend, my birthday, you know. Wouldn't it be hypocritical to have me do that promo when I was just off the prior week?
<Vince> THIS WILL GET YOU OVER AS THE TOP BABYFACE. I KNOW IT HASN'T WORKED THE OTHER 488 TIMES I'VE TRIED IT BUT THIS WILL BE THE ONE
<Roman> *sigh* I'll never get a heel turn
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ExThaNemesis
05/29/18 12:59:37 PM
#192:


So Enzo got proven innocent yeah?
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Jakyl25
05/29/18 1:01:59 PM
#193:


Theres no such thing as proven innocent in a legal sense.

The charges were dropped because there wasnt enough evidence to prosecute
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RaidenZeroX
05/29/18 1:13:20 PM
#194:


Even if there isn't enough evidence, he'll always be guilty in the court of public opinion. Those allegations never go away for some of the more dim members of society.

The radio show I listen to had one of the hosts on suspension for an altercation he had with his girlfriend (she even admitted she was at fault and he did nothing wrong), but because of Illinois law he was arrested because the police have to arrest somebody when they're called. All charges were dropped and he returned to the show, but there were still idiots demanding to know who their advertisers were so they could arrange boycotts for any company that advertises on a show with a "woman beater."
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/29/18 1:42:05 PM
#195:


They gave Roman the day off to spend with his family.

Truly, the management is out to get him.
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Jakyl25
05/29/18 1:44:03 PM
#196:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
They gave Roman the day off to spend with his family.

Truly, the management is out to get him.


I bet they even STILL SOLD HIS MERCH SO HE COULD MAKE MONEY, those bastards
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ScareChan
05/29/18 1:50:01 PM
#197:


Are they going out of there way to fuck with everyone with Roman
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RaidenZeroX
05/29/18 4:44:07 PM
#198:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
They gave Roman the day off to spend with his family.

Truly, the management is out to get him.


If only they'd have someone like Owens or Zayn call him on that the next time he's giving the management hates me promo.
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Hardcore_Adult
05/29/18 5:22:04 PM
#199:


^ It'd probably come sooner with KO.

'' 'Scuse me, Roman but where were YOU last Monday?''
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Strife2
05/29/18 6:14:23 PM
#200:


Before Roman beats KO in a match, cause Roman.
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