Current Events > Seems like the far left is doing more damage to democrats than anything lately

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jayj350
05/23/18 9:33:17 PM
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It is kinda like how the alt-right was doing more damage to republicans than anything a while back. The whole gun debate is making democrats alienate a large portion of their audience.
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Antifar
05/23/18 9:34:18 PM
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A sizable majority of the country holds the Democrats' views on guns
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Iodine
05/23/18 9:35:20 PM
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Antifar posted...
A sizable majority of the country holds the Democrats' views on guns

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jayj350
05/23/18 9:35:29 PM
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Antifar posted...
A sizable majority of the country holds the Democrats' views on guns

Here we go...

Lol, the loudest people trying to speak for everyone, classic hardcore partisan mistake.
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Antifar
05/23/18 9:37:28 PM
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jayj350 posted...
Antifar posted...
A sizable majority of the country holds the Democrats' views on guns

Here we go...

Lol, the loudest people trying to speak for everyone, classic hardcore partisan mistake.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-poll/gun-control-support-fades-three-months-after-florida-massacre-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1IO19P
The poll found that 69 percent of American adults supported strong or moderate regulations or restrictions for firearms, down from 75 percent in late March, when the first poll was conducted following the Valentines Day shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland. The new poll numbers are virtually unchanged from pre-Parkland levels.

The latest poll was conducted before the May 18 shooting in Texas, at Santa Fe High School near Houston, that killed 10 people.
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The baseline for gun control has gradually crept up since the Sandy Hook massacre, rising from the high 50s to the high 60s since 2012.

Meanwhile, those favoring no or very few restrictions have fallen from 10 percent in the middle of 2012 to 5 percent today.

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J E S U S
05/23/18 9:41:25 PM
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Antifar posted...
jayj350 posted...
Antifar posted...
A sizable majority of the country holds the Democrats' views on guns

Here we go...

Lol, the loudest people trying to speak for everyone, classic hardcore partisan mistake.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-poll/gun-control-support-fades-three-months-after-florida-massacre-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1IO19P
The poll found that 69 percent of American adults supported strong or moderate regulations or restrictions for firearms, down from 75 percent in late March, when the first poll was conducted following the Valentines Day shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland. The new poll numbers are virtually unchanged from pre-Parkland levels.

The latest poll was conducted before the May 18 shooting in Texas, at Santa Fe High School near Houston, that killed 10 people.
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The baseline for gun control has gradually crept up since the Sandy Hook massacre, rising from the high 50s to the high 60s since 2012.

Meanwhile, those favoring no or very few restrictions have fallen from 10 percent in the middle of 2012 to 5 percent today.


Sample size and poll demographics?
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jayj350
05/23/18 9:42:40 PM
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J E S U S posted...

Sample size and poll demographics?

He is just referencing some echo chamber that only a hardcore partisan would participate in. The alt-right does the same thing routinely in order to pretend like most people are with them.
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Antifar
05/23/18 9:45:58 PM
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J E S U S posted...
Sample size and poll demographics?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/388962-poll-support-for-gun-control-support-slips
The Reuters poll surveyed 3,458 adults between May 5 and May 17. Its credibility interval is "about 2 percentage points," according to the Reuters report about the poll.

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darkjedilink
05/23/18 9:50:15 PM
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Antifar posted...
A sizable majority of the country holds the Democrats' views on guns

A sizeable majority wants to ban semi-automatic weapons because they think the military uses them?

Link or gtfo.
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StucklnMyPants
05/23/18 9:50:43 PM
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Kind of a crap poll since the terms are not defined and left up to the person to determine in their own mind what "strong", "moderate", or "basic" means.
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jayj350
05/23/18 9:52:24 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
Kind of a crap poll since the terms are not defined and left up to the person to determine in their own mind what "strong", "moderate", or "basic" means.

Hardcore partisans never utilize honest polls, if they did they would realize how hardcore they are.
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Antifar
05/23/18 9:58:51 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
A sizeable majority wants to ban semi-automatic weapons because they think the military uses them?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/375513-majority-support-ban-of-semiautomatic-weapons-poll
Sixty-one percent of respondents said they believe strengthening gun control laws and background checks would prevent future mass shootings. In addition, 76 percent of those surveyed said those who have been treated for mental illness should not be able to own a weapon.

The poll found 63 percent of respondents believe weapons like the AR-15 should be banned. It is not clear from the polling if those surveyed support a full ban of semi-automatic weapons, or a ban of the AR-15 in particular, which was used in the Florida high school shooting and other recent mass shootings.


https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/politics/bipartisan-gun-control-policies-majorities/index.html
And, though only by a slim margin among Republicans, majorities of both parties even back an assault weapons ban and creating a new federal database to track gun sales. (Support among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents for these priorities remains around eight in 10, creating a broad gap between the two parties' support.)


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gun-owners-and-non-gun-owners-actually-agree-on-a-lot-of-gun-reforms/ar-AAxrX6O?pfr=1

The survey showed large gaps and less overall support for banning the sale of military-style semiautomatic rifles 44 percent of gun owners versus 68 percent of non-gun owners and banning the sale of high-capacity ammunition magazines 41 percent of gun owners versus 67 percent of non-gun owners.

Given the percent of people who are gun owners, that's majority support overall for both.
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Now from 2011, which was a low point for gun control support
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/10/americans-favor-automatic_n_806994.html

But, as the following table shows, three organizations have found majority or plurality support for bans on semi-automatic weapons in recent years.

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Antifar
05/23/18 9:59:45 PM
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jayj350 posted...
StucklnMyPants posted...
Kind of a crap poll since the terms are not defined and left up to the person to determine in their own mind what "strong", "moderate", or "basic" means.

Hardcore partisans never utilize honest polls, if they did they would realize how hardcore they are.

What party am I a partisan for?
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jayj350
05/23/18 11:35:21 PM
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Seems like the same people with the same outrage at people not wanting to side with them.
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ErrorCrX
05/23/18 11:42:25 PM
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Should be under the politics category smh
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jayj350
05/23/18 11:43:50 PM
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ErrorCrX posted...
Should be under the politics category smh

People discuss politics here all the time, and the politics board tends to get only a very particular kind of person.
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silentwing26x
05/24/18 12:01:52 AM
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"da poll!!!! DA POLLLLLL!!!1!1!1!1"

lmao

With our modern technology, we could have a polling mechanism that instantly surveys millions of people at once. Yet we're still happy with a few thousand people and bullshit theory about why it is sufficient enough to represent an entire country where thousands of variables differ in between states.

I have no confidence in polling as a mechanism.
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jayj350
05/24/18 12:03:10 AM
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silentwing26x posted...
"da poll!!!! DA POLLLLLL!!!1!1!1!1"

lmao

With our modern technology, we could have a polling mechanism that instantly surveys millions of people at once. Yet we're still happy with a few thousand people and bullshit theory about why it is sufficient enough to represent an entire country where thousands of variables differ in between states.

I have no confidence in polling as a mechanism.

Polls said Hilldog would win lol
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jayj350
05/24/18 12:29:39 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
jayj350 posted...
silentwing26x posted...
"da poll!!!! DA POLLLLLL!!!1!1!1!1"

lmao

With our modern technology, we could have a polling mechanism that instantly surveys millions of people at once. Yet we're still happy with a few thousand people and bullshit theory about why it is sufficient enough to represent an entire country where thousands of variables differ in between states.

I have no confidence in polling as a mechanism.

Polls said Hilldog would win lol

They said she'd win popular vote. Which all the models were geared towards. Which she won.

Too bad she lost doe
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wah_wah_wah
05/24/18 12:35:11 AM
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It damages the party as much as taking out the trash on garbage day makes the house smell worse.
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jayj350
05/24/18 12:36:19 AM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
It damages the party as much as taking out the trash on garbage day makes the house smell worse.

Hardcore libs are too arrogant to see the error of their ways, it is why they lost the election in 2016.
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wah_wah_wah
05/24/18 12:38:02 AM
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They didn't run a hardcore liberal. They ran a hardcore... whatever the hell Hillary was supposed to be.
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AlephZero
05/24/18 12:38:30 AM
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democrats are going to spend the months leading up to the election stumbling over each other to see who can more loudly proclaim their desire to take guns away and repeal the second amendment and then after they get stomped in the midterms dimly wonder why people don't want to vote for them
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jayj350
05/24/18 12:44:15 AM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
They didn't run a hardcore liberal. They ran a hardcore... whatever the hell Hillary was supposed to be.

That is what hardcore liberals have become.
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metralo
05/24/18 12:44:57 AM
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hillary is borderline right wing. to literally everyone else in the first world, she isn't left at all. she's a woman. that's about all it takes to scare conservatives away (next to being black).
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jayj350
05/24/18 12:45:09 AM
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AlephZero posted...
democrats are going to spend the months leading up to the election stumbling over each other to see who can more loudly proclaim their desire to take guns away and repeal the second amendment and then after they get stomped in the midterms dimly wonder why people don't want to vote for them

This is exactly what I am talking about, and I am a very moderate person politically. I just can't help but to see the writing on the wall.
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wah_wah_wah
05/24/18 12:46:27 AM
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jayj350 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
They didn't run a hardcore liberal. They ran a hardcore... whatever the hell Hillary was supposed to be.

That is what hardcore liberals have become.

They seem to be gunning for incumbents like Hillary, hence the existence of your topic
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Broseph_Stalin
05/24/18 12:47:43 AM
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Always interesting to see how alt-right trolls on CE view the world vs reality.

How many seats has the GOP lost under Trump again? 40?
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UnholyMudcrab
05/24/18 1:03:41 AM
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jayj350
05/24/18 1:12:50 AM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
jayj350 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
They didn't run a hardcore liberal. They ran a hardcore... whatever the hell Hillary was supposed to be.

That is what hardcore liberals have become.

They seem to be gunning for incumbents like Hillary, hence the existence of your topic

Exactly. They have been going down a dark road lately, they have really lost their way.
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jayj350
05/24/18 1:13:27 AM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Always interesting to see how alt-right trolls on CE view the world vs reality.

How many seats has the GOP lost under Trump again? 40?

Lol @ calling me alt-right

I guess everyone who isn't far-left is alt-right to you
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