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Rimmer_Dall 05/26/18 9:03:22 PM #152: |
QueenCarly posted...
No, if they were born women they wouldn't need sex reassignment surgery to deal with their dysphoria. If they were born women they wouldn't have any gender dysphoria to begin with. This is a beyond ridiculous statement. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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QueenCarly 05/26/18 9:05:42 PM #154: |
Rimmer_Dall posted...
QueenCarly posted... Gender dysphoria is not a requirement for one to be trans ldo many trans people never have gender confirmation surgery Those people are still the gender they identify as - surgery/transition or not. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 05/26/18 9:06:41 PM #155: |
Conflict posted...
tennisdude818 posted...Everybody knows that being trans is a major dealbreaker for many guys. Because some trans people find that preference to be highly offensive, they make the selfish decision to not disclose the fact that they are trans. I don't see how it would go both ways. What you do with your body is your decision. If you don't want to get physical with a trans person, that preference is your right. Edit: The selfish position would be, "I get to have sex with that person regardless of his preferences." --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkProto05 05/26/18 9:07:24 PM #156: |
Conflict posted...
tennisdude818 posted...Everybody knows that being trans is a major dealbreaker for many guys. Because some trans people find that preference to be highly offensive, they make the selfish decision to not disclose the fact that they are trans. If they want to get intimate the man's need to know is much more important than the tran's privacy. Much more. This isn't the same as telling a friend who has no business knowing. Don't know why you people can't understand this. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rimmer_Dall 05/26/18 9:07:26 PM #157: |
QueenCarly posted...
Gender dysphoria is not a requirement for one to be trans ldo Yes. Yes it is. It is literally textbook medical requirement. I don't care what you learned in your gender studies class, gender dysphoria is what defines a trans person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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QueenCarly 05/26/18 9:09:27 PM #158: |
Rimmer_Dall posted...
QueenCarly posted...Gender dysphoria is not a requirement for one to be trans ldo No it isn't Identifying as anything other than the gender you were assigned at birth is what defines a trans person --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rimmer_Dall 05/26/18 9:13:06 PM #159: |
QueenCarly posted...
Identifying as anything other than the gender you were assigned at birth is what defines a trans person No, that's the tumblr definition of transgenderism. Tumblr has people who say they identify as dragons too. I don't care. Gender dysphoria is a serious condition and these pretenders are pretty much just openly mocking the people suffering and all too often committing suicide because of the real deal. I don't even have a drop of respect for these tumblr trenders who call themselves trans without even suffering from a hint of dysphoria. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomSwell 05/26/18 9:14:23 PM #161: |
QueenCarly posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...QueenCarly posted...Gender dysphoria is not a requirement for one to be trans ldo Gender Dysphoria, Noun. Identifying as anything other than the gender you were assigned at birth --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Collat 05/26/18 9:15:43 PM #162: |
Panthera posted...
DarkProto05 posted...No. It would be shitty to do to Lesbians as well.Seems like straight males are the only demographic that people don't care about if they were mentally traumatized.Did I miss the memo on transgender people only ever being able to sleep with straight men? Because if that memo isn't a thing than this whole conversation applies to literally anyone of any gender or orientation I'd say the same applies to trans-women, but it's pretty hard to pull that one off. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rimmer_Dall 05/26/18 9:16:12 PM #163: |
DoomSwell posted...
Yeah, try again. It's a friggin medical condition, also known as GID. https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/gender-dysphoria#1 It's not "identifying as the opposite gender" so much as it is feeling severe anxiety and depression because you aren't the opposite gender. Don't make light of it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomSwell 05/26/18 9:19:49 PM #164: |
Rimmer_Dall posted...
Don't make light of it. I was agreeing with you, not making fun of it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rimmer_Dall 05/26/18 9:21:51 PM #165: |
DoomSwell posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...Don't make light of it. I thought you were quoting me. My bad. Though the definition you quoted seems very incomplete, which is partly why I didn't notice. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomSwell 05/26/18 9:24:32 PM #166: |
Rimmer_Dall posted...
Though the definition you quoted seemed very incomplete. Perhaps, I worded it that way because I was trying to point out how dumb the other person was being by using their own words. I mean they were basically saying "Just because something is a cat doesn't mean it's a feline." But its like, uh, yeah, it does. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rimmer_Dall 05/26/18 9:27:50 PM #167: |
DoomSwell posted...
Perhaps, I worded it that way because I was trying to point out how dumb the other person was being by using their own words. Yeah, I noticed that now that I've read exactly what you quoted and have the context. Really, my bad. Should've paid more attention. >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rimmer_Dall 05/26/18 9:54:25 PM #168: |
Conflict posted...
What the reality is is that transpeople are born with the brains of the opposite gender of their physical sex. By the way, this is not true. While there is a difference in the brain of a trans person and a normal person, it's not the same as that of a person of the opposite sex. Relying too heavily on scans and the like to diagnose dysphoria has led to the very unfortunate situation that people are misdiagnosed as trans at an early age and then turn out to have just been gay when they grow to adulthood. With prepubescent children the amount of misdiagnoses where the person has gone through with gender reassignment surgery and then regretted it later and transitioned back is upwards to 90% depending on which study you go by (no study I know of has the number below 60%). For people that have their surgery after their 20s it's only around 2% that regret it and transition back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BigSLM1993 05/26/18 10:05:06 PM #169: |
QueenCarly posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...QueenCarly posted... I think we're just playing semantics when we say they're born "women." To be precise the point being made is that they're not cisgender women. Sure they're born as women, but they are not born as cisgender women. And some men will only want to date a cisgender woman, particularly if they want to have biological children with their partner (not everyone wants to adopt). Transwomen cannot fulfill the same desires a man might want from a cisgender woman. Not that I think dating transwomen is wrong, whatever floats people's boats. But to treat them as if they're the same thing is doing a disservice to transwomen and cisgender women. I personally think it just makes things easier to disclose to your partner if you're trans. If they're cool with it, even better. Why be in a relationship terrified that one day a potential dealbreaker may come out? That person obviously isn't the one for you if being trans is a dealbreaker ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Wheelman1 05/26/18 10:46:23 PM #170: |
Yes. Not telling your partner is a good way to get shot.
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WindMouseHanpan 05/26/18 11:09:39 PM #171: |
Absolutely.
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DoctorVader 05/26/18 11:58:38 PM #172: |
Yes. People shouldn't take deceiving lightly with anything. You never know how the person might react, especially something that could actually cause the victim psychological trauma. We've seen cases of violence for this, and I don't think that's gonna fully change for a few more generations.
Normal assumption is that straight males want biological females. The other assumption is that most women out there were born biologically female. When you're the outlier and 100% know it causes problems, it's best to be up front. It should not be on the other person because it's not really a viable conversation to bring up on a date no matter how you try to phrase it or how subtle you are. Women are not stupid. They can tell you're implying something about them. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CatataFish462 05/27/18 8:39:45 AM #173: |
To withhold this information would technically be rape.
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Garioshi 05/27/18 8:50:09 AM #174: |
Garioshi posted...
If you don't ask about whether your partner has any sort of dealbreaker for you, that's on you. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CatataFish462 05/27/18 8:52:01 AM #175: |
Eevee-Trainer posted...
It's certainly not something you should hide from romantic partners. If just because how often it backfires on you if you do. (Plus the moral consequences of lying and deceit and all that.) I always disclose that I am not transgender --- I am the catata fish. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CatataFish462 05/27/18 8:58:27 AM #176: |
Cal12 posted...
Offworlder1 posted...@Cal12 True And, moral high ground? Theres nothing moral about withholding information like this. --- I am the catata fish. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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im not 13 05/27/18 8:58:30 AM #177: |
Any person that hides such information from me isn't going to be my partner for long
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CatataFish462 05/27/18 9:00:53 AM #178: |
Metro2 posted...
No one deserves to be tricked into something they dont want to do. If this is so, then make sure you are honest with your partners. --- I am the catata fish. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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QueenCarly 05/27/18 9:38:03 AM #179: |
CatataFish462 posted...
To withhold this information would technically be rape. Lol --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 05/27/18 9:43:45 AM #180: |
If you are trans, why not limit sexual encounters to people who are willing to sleep with trans people? Whats the downside in telling your potential partner before things get physical?
--- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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looked 05/27/18 10:36:54 AM #181: |
tennisdude818 posted...
If you are trans, why not limit sexual encounters to people who are willing to sleep with trans people? Whats the downside in telling your potential partner before things get physical? Because people are telling them that they are real females, if they are, than shouldnt have to tell you. They dont care about respecting your feelings, because if you disagree, you are an intolerant bigot. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 05/27/18 11:39:22 AM #182: |
looked posted...
tennisdude818 posted...If you are trans, why not limit sexual encounters to people who are willing to sleep with trans people? Whats the downside in telling your potential partner before things get physical? A biological female =\= a trans female. That doesnt mean that nobody should transition or that they dont genuinely feel female. But if you are trans and you resent the fact that some people dont want to sleep with you because of that, thats just something you should accept and work through. My preference to only sleep with biological females is no less valid than a trans persons preference to identify as the opposite gender. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thelovefist 05/27/18 1:09:42 PM #183: |
tennisdude818 posted...
A biological female =\= a trans female. I thought posting this was moddable here? --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 05/27/18 5:51:19 PM #184: |
Interesting that the same sort of people who advocate for "personal responsibility" are so eager to remove one of the parties in this situation from it.
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CatataFish462 05/27/18 7:06:19 PM #185: |
DarkProto05 posted...
Seems like straight males are the only demographic that people don't care about if they were mentally traumatized. --- I am the catata fish. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CatataFish462 05/27/18 7:09:43 PM #186: |
Rimmer_Dall posted...
QueenCarly posted...Gender dysphoria is not a requirement for one to be trans ldo Qft --- I am the catata fish. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 05/27/18 7:12:30 PM #187: |
Has the person completed transition? If theyre no longer a man then they dont need to bring it up. They are a woman. #CheckYourPrivilege
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